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: RTLM
15/5/94
Duration
90 min.
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Orateur
:
HABIMANA
Kantano,
journaliste
de la RTLM.
00min03sec
...nimubarwaneho
n’ibikoresho
byanyu
mufite,
imyambi
murayifite,
amacumu,
nimuhige
izo
Nkotanyi
zivaamaraso,
zivaamaraso
namwe
mukava
andi.
Ahok~gira
ngoumuntu
agutware
ibyawe
mwabi..,
mwabipfiramo,
ya...
wabigwamo.
Nimufate
rero
ibikoresho
byanyu
byagakondo,
nimwegere
ingabo
z’uRwanda,
nimwitoze
kugira
ngonimubona
ibikoresho
mwirukanke
murwane
kubyanyu
mukuremo
izonkenya
z’Inkotanyi.
;~~’.
;~
.
Nanone
kubyerekeye
abantu
bahunze
Kigali,
abantu
bahunze
Kigali
muby’tfl¢ud
nk’abari
muri
stade
i Gitarama,
nk’abari
i Runda,
abobantu
ndakeka
yuko
ababa..,
ababishinzwe,
ababishinzwe
abashinzwe
ibyobigoby’impunzi
nibafate
abobantu
bababwire
basubire
mu byabo
i Kigali
bafatanye
n’abandi
km’wana
intambara.
Nahoubundi
secyangwa
nibatange
itegeko
ibyabo
byose
bifatwe
bijyanwe,
kukoabobantu
niibigwari
ntabwo
muby’ukuri
bak~nda
igihugu
kukoukunda
igihugu
niuldrwanirira.
Ni cyogituma
abantu
bakomeje
k~baza
batimu bintu
by’ibihuha
nyine
abantu
bazana,
ngo
murabizi...,
e...ndetse
haFPR-Inkotanyi
ikunda
kubikoresha
ivuga
ngoingabo
z’uRwanda
ngo
izari
mu...
i Byumba,
ngoizari
i Kibungo
ngozasanze
Inkotanyi.
Noneho
kugira
ngobitere
ubwoba
nyine
abantu
bumve
koingabo
z’Inkotanyi
ziyongereye
cyane,
zagize
zite.
Ibyo
reroni
ibihuha
bitagira
ishingiro,
ingabo
ee...
ingabo
zosez’uRwanda
ziri
kuruhande
rw’uRwanda
ahubwo
ingabo
z’Inkotanyi
z’Abahutu
nizozatangiye
kujya
zisanga
ingabo
z’uRwanda,
kuburyo
reronyine
ubungubu
ku ruhande
rumwe
hariingabo
z’uRwanda,
ku rundi
ruhande
hakaba
ingabo
z’agatsiko
k’Abatutsi
bigize
ibyihebe
bibwira
ko ba2.afata
u Rwanda
ku ngufu
bakirukanamo
Abahutu
benshi
(iltousse)
noneho
cyaba
ngombwa
bakarwomeka
ku Bugande
(Uganda).
Ibyoreroni ukwibeshya
kuburyo
bukomeye.
Kubyerekeye
rero
ibyongibyo
byoku...
ibyobita
désertion,
byoku...
byokuvamugisirikare
ugahunga,
twavuze
yukoabasirikare
badafite
permission,
badatite
uruhusa
rwanditse
bakaba
Canette
n"RTLMeO06trm~rtte
parM.P.J.
birirwa
mu giturage
bidegembya
barimwo
bacunga
ibyobas~uye,
nimubake
impapuro
muzirebeho,
nimubake
impapuro
muzirebeho
murebe
kokoko basinyiwe
nibabatarasinyiwe
nimubashyikifize
ubutegetsi,
nimubakubite,
nimuba..,
nimubamerere
nabi
kuko
ntacyo
ba...
ntacyo
ba...
makamaro
bamaze
niukwirirwa
bibaabaturage.
Abobantu
rero
nimubarnerere
nabicyane,
abasirikare
bavuye
mu ngabo
batabifitiye
uburenganzira.
02min07sec
Ikindi
kandi,
ikindi
kandi,
mu by’ukuri
nk’uko
bikorwa
mu Nkotanyi,
nk’uko
bikorwa
mu
Nkotanyi,
muNkotanyi
igituma
mubona
nkakariya
kagabo
ko hakurya
ku Gisozi
kihambye
ku
mbunda
kakayizirikaho,
igituma
mubona
kariya
kantu
koku Kicukiro
kakirasa
kandi
ailko
gasigaye
konyine
hagati
y’abantu
ba...
ba...
bakanga
niukomuNkotanyi
ntawusubira
inyuma,
©
ntawusubira
inyuma
barakubita,
ni songa
mbere
mpaka
Nyamijosi.
Usubiye
inyuma
baramwica,
mu ngabo
z’uRwanda
na hobigomba
kubaibyokukontakundi
byagenda
nibaumwanzi
ailyo
tactique
akoresha
yukousubiye
inyuma
bamwica,
no mu ngabo
z’uRwanda
ni ukobigomba
kugenda.
Nibaumuntu
asubiye
inyuma
ntampamvu
akiruka
agata
imbunda
ni ukumuhiga
mpaka
bamwishe
kukouwomuntu
ni umugambanyi
ntagukorera
igi..,
nta..,
ntabwo
arwanka
igihugu.
Niukuvu8a
rero
zadésertions...,
uretse
kontan’azi..,
ntan’izihafi
mungabo
z’uRwanda
nizo
mana,
ariko
reroutaye
imbunda
ha.si
ariumusirikare
w’uRw~ada
yariyemeje
kurwanirira
u
Rwanda
ni ukuraswa
ntakundiuwonguwontacyo
amazentacyo
amariye
igihugu
niba
adashobora
kwitangira
igihugu,
nibaadashobora
kvdtangira
urwamubyaye
kandi
abona
hanone
imbere
yehariabana
b’Abatutsi
bavuga
bail"iki
gihugu
mpaka
tukigarurire".
Wowe
ukaba
uri
umwana
w’Umuhutu
ugata
imbunda
ukiruka,
uu...uu...
wir~:a
se ugana
he?Ujyahe?Ko
bazagushaka
n’umuryango
wanyubakawutsemba.
Rwana
reroku gihugu
cyawe,
rwana
ku muryango
wawe,
rwana
ku bawenahoubundi
kwiruka
igihugu
ukakimaza
amaguru
ngougiye
kureba
ahoujyakwihis.ha
i Cyangugu
ngowibeurye
iby’ubusa
ngowariumusirikare
ntakamaro,
nibagufata
bajye
bakvhca
kukontakintu
ubaumaze.
Ibyongibyo
bigomba
kumvikang
no muriFPR-Inkotanyi
niko babigenza.
Ni cyogituma
umuntu
"atona"
akajya
ku mbunda
akayisaziraho
ma "lc~ropliya"
mp~~a
bayimutsinzeho.
Uretse
ko
abenshi
baba
ariibimuga
cyangwa
seabantu
barwaye
SIDAbavuga
batiibyo
aribyobyose
ce...
ntakundi,
macyo
ukimaze
gumaahakuriiyimbunda
ukomeze
utere
abantu
ubwoba.
Cmsette
n° RTLM0006trmsertte
parM.PJ.
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4
Ni ukobakarasa,
bakarasa
wapintahave
barangiza
"baldropliya"
t~goni ikintu
gikomeye
naho
ubwoni ikimuga
kiriahongahoku mbunda,
imbunda
na yo y’ikimuga
ni ukononeho
kikatera..
04minO7sec
ubwobagusa.
Mu Nkotanyi
remma wusubira
inyuma,
no mu ngaboz’uRwanda
ntawugomba
gusubira
inyuma
ntibishoboka
agomba
guhashya
umwanzi
byanze
bikunze
umwanzi
agapfa
cyangwa
se undiagapfa
ubundi
usubiye
inyuma
ku buryobutumvikana
akîcwa
kukontakundi,
macyoabaamaz¢,
ntacyo
aba amariyeigihugu.
05min01sec
Ubworcro,
e...ahokugim
ngoumng¢
abantu
bacaabandi
intcgc
bimka
c...basahura
bagira
gutc,
ibyiza
ni ukowabica
bikarangira
noncho
abobantu
bakavaho
bakibagirana
hagasigara
abana
b’u
Rwanda
kokobernera
kumrwanirira.
Ngukoukoibintu
bim¢ze
n’icyo
umwanzi
akoresha,
iyo
umwanzi
amczeatyorcroee...ugomba
nawegukoresha
iyotactique
kukontawa...ntampamvu
umwanziyazaavugaail "songarobert",
hanyumanon¢homu ngabozawewowehakavamo
abavuga
ngosonganyuma,
ibyobintuntabwo
byashoboka
birtanvikana
yukoabantubahita
batsindwa
akokanyakandibitari
ngombwa.
Ku bycrek¢yc
Guverinoma
y’Abatabazi,
abantubakomej~
kux~aga
byinshi
bavuga
bati"~se
Guvednoma
y’Abatabazi
bite?Escizahera
i Gitarama?
Bizagenda
gute"?
Muby’ukuri
abantu
bamw¢
baravuga
bati"ibyo
ailbyobyoseabobantu
b’abatabazi
niba...
ngo
ni baMinistres,
nibaze
ba...(inaudibl¢)
i Kigali
bater¢
abaturag~
inkunga,
bat¢re
abasirîkare
inkunga
n’abakozi
bababon¢.
Bazeba...bajyemuri"blinde"
b~oreremo
bumveibisasu
uko
biturika,
nibiba
ngombwa
kokoi...umunsi
wagize
bavuga
batiInkotanyi
yendahariiziyahuye
zigeze
ahan’aha,
babahungishe
icyogihe.
Arikoubundi
bakom¢je
bariya.
Ibyoaribyobyoseabandi
na bo bakomeje
kuvuga
bati"ibyosi byongombwa".
Guverinoma
y’Abatabazi
nik~r¢
hiryano hino,mu macuti
badushakire
imbunda,
badushakire
ibikoresho,
badushakire
umubano
hanyumanon¢hoturwanen’Inkotan)4
kabisaubundiibindibyos~
babyihor¢re
ahobakorera
si ngombwa.
Cm~.tten* RTLM 0006 tmmritepar M.PJ.
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5
N’Lzere
reroyukomuby’ukuri
ahobarii Gitarama
bakora
batiriwe
bikingiranira
mumazu,
batiriwe
bakira
amacuti
n’amacutikazi
yabo,
batidwe
bagira
gute.
N’oEere
kokokobakora
akokazi,
noneho
abari
i Kigali
bakaba
bailku rugamba
n’abandi
bakaba
barii Gitarama
kurugamba
atari
ukuvuga
gusangonjyendiMinistre
e...ngomfuye
byaba
ad akaga.
Ministre
seapfuye
bitwaye
iki?Apfuye
bitwaye
ikiarikoagapfira
ku rugamba
aha..,
ahainkunga
Abanyarwanda
kudza bariyed,
aha
inkunga
abasirikare,
ahamorali
abantu
bose.
Icyogihekokoyaba
apihye
agize
n’i..,
n’icyo
apfira.
07min01sec
Birumvikana
yukoukobyamera
koseabajenjetse
mu...biyitagusangoni "Abaminîstre"
b~’tirirwa
izina
ubundi
utamubona,
ubundi
utaxi
iyoaba,utazi
icyoakora
avuga
gusangohinga
%?
yenda
ngobizarangira
ngondebe
ukobyarangira,
ibintu
nk’ibyo,
lbyongibyo
ntabwo
t...ntabwo
bizong¢ra
kubantibishoboka
umuntuazajyaabonaumwanya
ko yawukoreye
kandikokoko
yerekanye
icyoamazemuriiyintambara,
apanakwihisha,
kwihislu~isha
ubeshyabeshya
uryarya
n’utugambo
tw’amafuti
ibyongibyo
byararangiye.
Tugomba
kurwana
n’Inkotanyi
twesekandikokoumuntu
akabona..,
umuntu
akabona
umuga...
u...u...umuntu
akabona
icyoumtmtu
yakoz~,
umuntu
akakireba
koko.Akavuga
ati umuntu
yakoze
iki,namubonye
ahan’aha.
(Iltousse)
Nk’ubwo
"Abaministr~"
bagombye
kunyura
aho
Inkotanyi
zitarizagerabakajya
ku mirenge,
bakajya
hehe,bakababwira
batimukomere,
bakabigisha
ukobakwepa
Inkotanyi,
bakazicira
imihanda,
bakazitcra
amacumu,
kokobakakora..
ibyobintubya campagnes
nk’uko
bakozecampagnes
zo ku...gutumaabantu
baticana,
zo
guhag~ka
ubwicanyi
bagakora
noneho..,
bakajya
inyuma
ahoIr/kotanyi
zitaragera
bakumvisha
abaturage
ko batagomba
guhunga
igihugu
cyaboko ntahandi~~ Rwanda
ruri,bakumva
ko...
ntiwahtmgira
Inkotanyi
i Burundi
abasirikare
b’iBurundi
bakwica,
ntiwahungira
Inkotanyi
muri
ZaïrcInkotanyi
zirahari,
ntiwahungira
Inkotanyi
mu Bug;~de
(Uganda)
birumvikana,
ntiwahungira
Inkotanyi
muriTanzaniya
(Tanzanie)
eh,kukozagusangayo.
Tumazekum¢nya
yukon’abantu
bahunze
bavaza...bavaza Byumba,
za Kibungo,
ahohose
bagiye
noneho
Inkotanyi
zikajya
muriTanzaniya
(Tanzani¢)
zikagenda
zibatunga
agatold
ubu
ngububakababafunze,
muriabo bafunze
hakabaharimouwariBourgmestre
wa Murambi
GATETE,
ubwoamaherezo
Inkotanyi
zizamusanga
mu buroko
;’.imwice.
Ibyoha noneni ibintu
Cassetten" RTLM Oi~ tram~tepar M.PI.
KQ21 061 7
abategetsi
bailbakwiye
guhagurukira
bakabwira
Abanyatanzaniya
3~koabanzi
badukurîkiranye
hoseko bagomba
kurekura
abobantu
kugira
ngo..badapfira
mu buroko.
Ubwongubwo
murumva
yukoibyobintu
Tanzaniya
(Tanzanie)
hayoigiye
kudufata..,
i...idufatanyije
n’umwanzi,
birumvikana
yukotwabatugowe.
09minOlsec
Ibyo
rero
bkumvikana,
abahungiye
muri
Tanzaniya
(Tanzanie)
Abata~lzaniya
bahise
ba...
babacuza
utuntu
twose
twose
bari
bafite..,
bari
bafite,
iki.Birumvikana
rero
gu...
ahoguhunga
njyewe
mbona
umuntu
yapllra
muriikigihugu
akarwana
n’Inkotanyi,
ahozigeze
agasubira
inyuma
y’aho
zivuye,
bagakomeza
bagakora
amayida
mpaka
kugeza
igihe
Inkot:myi
zimhiye,
nahoubundi
na
nonemabuhungiro.
Tugomba
kurwana
n’Inkotanyi
tukazimara
tukazitsemba,
tukazisakuma
muri
@
ikigihugu
tukazimara
kukomabuhungiro,
ntabuhungiro
ntabwo,
ntabwo,
ntabwo.
Ahokugira
ngoreroabantu
bansange
mu kigocy’impunzi
bangandagure
ukobashaka
banyice
urupfu
mbi
ntagitite
umuheto
wanjye,
ntagifite
icumu
rwanjye,
ntagifite
umuhoro
wanjye,
naguma
mugihugu
mpaka
tukagundaguranirayo
cyangwa
bakantsinda
ku mgamba,
nubwo
..ntajyana
n’abasirikare
mbatwaje
ibiryo
cyangwa
sembatwaje
amasasu
basibiramta
aholeagira
ngoInkotanyi
zinsange
mu bigoby’impunzi
narahunze
igihugu
cyanjye,
narahunze
ibyanjye.
10min01se¢
Ubworero,
muby’ukuri
hanomu mujyi
i Kigali
ikintu
twah~shtmira
niukokwicana
nokwiba
byahagaze.
Kwicana
no kwibabyarahagaze
ku buryoreroubungubuumuntu
yavuga
yuko
dutangiye
phase
yakabiri
yogutsinda
intambara.
Niukuvuga
yuko
dutangiy¢
kugira
discipline,
dutangiye
kugira
discipline,
dutangiye
"kwikaruma".
Ubworerodutangiy¢
"kwikaruma"
ubu
amahanga
hayoagiye
kujya
abireba
v...
avuge
atikoko
bariya..,
bariya
Bahutu
batite
discipline
tugomba
kubumva
tukabafasha,
hnun.
Ubworeromu by’ukuri
ndakeka
yukoubwodutangiye...
ibyokwicana
nokwiba
bihagaz¢
ubutugiye
gutangira
noneho
phase
yakabiri
yadiscipline
yo
gutsinda
Inkotanyi
kokomuby’ukuri
kuburyo
bugaragara.
Hanohariumuntu
wanyandikiye
ambwira
ail"Bwana
Kantano
mwaramutse"?
Ati"ndagusaba
ko
mwambwirira
Abayisilamu
bakebailbaratangiye
kwishima
ngoHARELIMANA...
ngoShehi
HARELIMANA
Abdul
Karimu
ngoazabazanira
amajyambere
noneyabazaniye
Katiyusha
zisenya,
ee...
zisenya
n’imisigiti".
Ati"ngayo
reroamajyambere
Shehe
HARELIMANA
Abdul
Karimu
Caffi~tlte
la"RTLM0006tramerite
parM.P~L
mwesemusubize
amwe...
- ’ .e"Ati "reroubwoAbayisilamu
mweneMAKONOeROabazamy
amerwe
muisaho
kukontakigenda
ntakigenda
nyine
bafiya
Bahu’tu,
bariya
Bahutu
n’abaguze
ubwoko
bagiy¢
kwihamba
mu Nkotanyi
mu by’ukufi
ma cyizabashobora
gutuzanira,
ntana
llmin05sec
kimwc
ntaha kimw¢".
Aah!UyuwitwaAKIMANAXavierah...AKIMANASaveri
ubam~ campKigali
muriBataillon
dereconnaissance
ararangisha
muramu
weFrançois,
ce...
muramu
weku(bruit
extérieur)..,
rtzira
aboboseni abandi
bazo.
Iyoumuntu
reroamaze
kugira
abanzi
ba...
bamurenze,
bamurenze
ubushobozi
mu by’ukuri
abaatangiye..,
abaagiyegupfa.
Ntakundiubwongubwo
biba
©
bimurangiriyeho.
-,~
.~~
Kubyerekeye
rero
aba(iltousse),
hari
abantu
bavuga
bati"aah,
mumaze
kuvuga
yukoe...
muri
niingome,
Inkotanyi
ni
a...
-batUngtyey
-- " o", bati
Tanzaniya
(Tan2afie)
hari
abantu
bacu
"nyabuneka
ni mbi,abobantu
zîzabakurikîrana
zigende
zigure
zitange
zabitugukwaha
muriTanzaniya
(Tanzanie)
abobantubabicir¢
mu buroko
bamere
nkaKémyGAHUTW’.
Bati"nyabuneka
nimutabare
abobantubahite
bavamu buroko
vubavuba".
12min03sec
(Aseka)
Hanyuma
rero
muri
byabisasu,
muri
byabisasu
ee...
e...
]hakotanyi
ziroha
hîrya
nohino
ewu..,
hino..,
hinoukozibonye.
Nababwiye
yukoambassade
yaUganda
yarasenyutse
burtmdu,
ambassade
yaUganda
yarasenyutse
burundu,
hanyuma
ambassade
ya Kenya
yarasenyutse
burundu
kubera
Inkotanyi,
ambassade
e...
noneiyari
isigaye
niambassade
yaTanzaniya
(Tanzanie)
none
~..
bayiroshyeho
igisasu
n’Abatanzaniya
babiri
bapfiramo.
Urumva
ha noneizoni Inkotanyi
zibahekura,
murumva
kontakintu
zisiga.
Ambassade
ya u...y;~Tanzaniya
(Tanzanie)
na
kwaheri.
ubworeromurumva
yukoInkotanyi
nyin¢
n’abitwa
ngoniamacuti
yazo,
n’abitwa
Hanyuma
....
ngoni iki,mabantu
t...ntabintu
zisiga,
inzuyaKANYAKENGWE
yararimbutse
hasigaye
iya
BIZIMUNGU
Pasiteri.
Ubwomurumva
nyineyukoInkotanyi
ma kintuzibabarira,
ma kintu
zisiga,
niabanzi
mbese
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39min06sec
akazinga
k’amahoro,
akazinga
k’amajyambereBadutera
rerobailbliyukodufite
amahoro
n’amajyambere.
Iby’amahoro
baravuga
bati"ibyo
ntibitureba
icyodushaka
niamajyambere
yabo".
U Rwanda
reronirwokugeza
muminsi
ishize
han’ubundetse,
nirworufite
imihanda
yakaburimbo
abantu
bashaka
k~huta
bakagenderaho,
nirworufite
amashanyarazi
atajyaga
abura
kugeza
ubwolnkotanyi
zononaga
urugomero
rwokuri
Ntaruka,
ni...
cyane
cyane
nirworufite
télé..,
téléphone
automatiqae.
Ngicyo
reroicyaduteje
akaga
ni amajyambere
twagejejweho
n’uwo
bishe
ejobundi
aha,ni
téléphon¢
automatique
ugira
utyaugapyatura
téléphone
ukaba
u»-aganye
n’iBurayi
(Europe).
Abazungu
barabikunda
cyane,
ahantu
hariamazi
muriw.c.,
mwumvhe
ejobundi
ahaamazi
yabaye
makeya
induru
bavugije,
ahantu
hariamashanyarazi
bagateka,
cy~~e
cyane
noneho
ahantu
hari
téléphone.
Nibworero
u Rwanda
barwitaga
"plaque
tournante".
Plaque
tournante
ahantu
wicara
ukaba
umerewe
nezaukajya
mu ishyamba
ry’Akagera
washaka
gutelefona
i Burayi
(Europe)
ugatelefona,
washaka
kwituma
mu nzuukituma
ugafungura
amazibikagenda,
ngicyo
icyo
twazize.
Icyohanonemuraza
kumbwira
mutintigihagije
cyane,
ntabwo
gihagije
cyane
koko
umuntu
adakomeje
ngoasobanure
kukoabashakaga
u Rwanda,
abobosebarurwaniragamo
baruhataniramo
banyuzekwa MUSEVENI
abo ngabocyane!~koMUSEVENI
na we ni
igikoresho
cy’abantu
ubutumaze
kubimenya,
hawe ni igikoresho...
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