Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT)
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Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT)
ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Page 1 of 1 2 > 2 Show 100 posts from this thread on one page ADVrider (http://www.advrider.com/forums/index.php) - Ride reports and pics, pics, pics... (http://www.advrider.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2) - - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138402) Cannonshot 05-15-2006 09:32 PM Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) The Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) is billed as "The Longest Continuous Marked Motorcycle Trail on Earth". I don't know if it really is or isn't, but I do know it is a long difficult ride that deals out elation and frustration in heavy doses. I just got home from "riding the arch" and I'm still pretty beat, so if I sometimes don't make much sense or repeat myself that is why. Cannonshot 05-15-2006 09:40 PM The Trail The MCCCT is a marked motorcycle trail that loops around the lower peninsula of Michigan. The picture is a sketch map of the GPS track. The trail proper is the arch that runs up one side and down the other. There is a cross state connector that forms the "-" to get the "A" shape. The trail runs through state and federal forests and is mostly single track or off road vehicle trails. In some areas there are highway (paved, dirt/sand roads) connectors to keep continuity of the trail. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (1 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) MNwilly 05-15-2006 09:45 PM :lurk Cannonshot 05-15-2006 09:50 PM Trail Markings The trail is very well marked. There are small triangular signs (flashes) posted all over. They are very well placed. You could be on a dirt road (connector segment) going through some rural residential area wondering if you were still on the route and sure enough a confidence flash would appear. At forks, turns, and sometimes in the middle of the woods, flashes would be posted to assure you that you were on the path. Sometimes the MCCCT ran on other trails so you would have multiple markings. The people that take care of this thing do a fantastic job keeping it marked! I would say that 99% of the trail was covered. GPS tracks and excellent trail maps complete the package. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (2 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) 2whlrcr 05-15-2006 09:56 PM Keep the pics coming Bryon!!! Did you go solo? Probably, because the rest of us, still have to work!:cry Cannonshot 05-15-2006 09:57 PM The Bike OK, we introduced the trail. Now, the bike . . . Suzuki DRZ-400S. No fancy mods - nearly all stock. D606s front and rear. Radiator guards (mandatory for this trip). Better bash plate. 14/47 sprockets instead of 15/44 stock. Could not have ridden this with the 15/44s as would usually have been in the wrong spot between gears and power. Dirt-Bagz for cargo and a Wolferman tank bag. Cee-Bailey windshield (knew it was a bad idea but I did it anyway - busted it off). Handlebar mount GPS. Tent, sleeping bag tied down tight with a rachet strap and a bungee web. Stock gas tank (2.4 gal) http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (3 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-15-2006 09:59 PM Hang tight boys, this will take a while Glad to see you guys tuned in. I had a great ride with a lot of ups and downs. It is going to take me a while to tell the story to check in every now and again. By the way 2whlrcr, you mentioned I should get back to enduro racing again. Frankly, I'm "rode out" on woods riding for a while . . . more on that later. Cannonshot The Rider Let me introduce the principal rider for this event. Name: Bryan (Cannonshot) Age: 50 Occupation: "Recreationalist" (retired military) http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (4 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM 05-15-2006 10:01 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) rokklym 05-15-2006 10:02 PM God damnit dude! I was thinking about calling you tonight, I wasn't sure if you were home yet or not. I haven't looked at the pics yet, I can't wait! We gotta talk about the South Dakota trip! I see ya got the Ogio Flight Vest too, Nice! I have only used mine once so far but I like it. Cannonshot 05-15-2006 10:19 PM Why Michigan? I live in Wisconsin. Michigan has some great motorcycle riding - much better opportunities than we have in Wisconsin. They also have the Cycle Conservation Club of Michigan. The CCC sponsors three "safaris". One is a 1200 mile dual sport safari in the upper peninsula, one is a 1200 mile dual sport safari in the lower peninsula, and the third is the MCCCT safari that can vary in length from 500 to nearly 800 miles depending on how you ride it and whether you double back or do the cross state connector. Even though a great deal of the MCCCT does not require a street legal bike, you must be street legal due to highway connectors and primitive roads that still require registration. To ride you also have to have a Michigan ORV sticker (around $16) that helps pay for marking and maintaining trails. OK, as long as I am plugging the Cycle Conservation Club of Michigan, let me also mention that they put on an event called "The Six Days of Michigan" each summer that is a very well organized program of dual sport, trail, or road riding that is based three days each in the UP and the LP. Check the CCC web site for details. www.cycleconservationclub.org I will post some threads from the six days, the LPDSS, and the UPDSS at the end of this thing if you want to know more about their other rides/events. When you join the CCC, you get a first class map book with your membership. The maps are of the many cycle/ORV trails in the state and the MCCCT. For about $25, they will sell you a first class map CD that you can use to load your GPS. For the safaris, $25 each gets you registered and gives you a CD with the GPS/map info, hospital info, etc. A guy named Jeramey (2TrakR on this forum) has done some great work on mapping and GPS stuff for the CCC. Many thanks for you and your crew Jeramey. This is my nav setup. The GPS with the maps/trackline and a roll chart I made based on a map recon. The roll chart gives me segment miles and is color coded for tight trail versus two track or highway connections. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (5 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-15-2006 10:22 PM Taking the Ferry To get to Michigan I took the high speed ferry. Last year I took the coal fired 18 mph ferry. This year I took the modern high speed ferry that goes about 40 mph. The day I went over it was foggy and calm. This thing rode like an airliner. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (6 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-15-2006 10:23 PM Cargo You have to tie your own bike down. This ferry provides the straps. Cannonshot Jet Power Water jets. Goes like hell. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (7 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM 05-15-2006 10:24 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-15-2006 10:27 PM Not always so smooth Like I said, the ferry rode nice on the way over in the fog. It was smooth like an airliner. Quiet too. On the return trip it rolled a lot (even with stabilizers). Last Thursday it did not run at all due to waves up to 16' and 40 knot winds (I was on the trail thank you). One of the crew told me that it was rolling badly Thursday - even at the dock. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (8 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot Escort Always the Coast Guard escort in and out of port (homeland security). http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (9 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM 05-15-2006 10:29 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-15-2006 10:31 PM Weather When I got to Michigan, the weather was fine. That was before a low pressure parked for five days or so and it rained most of the time and got cold. I think that everytime I asked about the weather I got "more rain - but we need it though . . ." Here is how the trailhead looked when I stopped there the first day. Nice and dry. Cannonshot The next morning. . . dark, cold, and wet. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (10 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM 05-15-2006 10:32 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-15-2006 10:37 PM Riding Buddies I met two guys from Michigan at the Six Days last year. They are excellent trail riders and we had a blast riding together. When I said that I was coming over to ride the MCCCT they told me that they wanted to ride with me for a day. It was great to see them again. I also have to say that they are class guys. They said they would be there and they were. They were not the least bit put off by the cold and rain. Here they are . . . Maynard on the left and Greg on the right. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (11 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-15-2006 10:39 PM But first . . . First, lets meet for breakfast. The roll is the size of a dinner plate. The three of us managed to eat maybe half of it. We saved the rest in case we needed a wheel chock for the trailer. Seriously, it was good. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (12 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-15-2006 10:41 PM Trail Head Here we are at the start. We are in the Manistee National Forest near White Cloud, MI. Greg on the left, me in the middle, and Maynard on the right. They are riding Honda 650s. Cannonshot Deadfalls There was a lot of this . . . http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (13 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM 05-15-2006 10:42 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-15-2006 10:43 PM No Injuries No injuries this time. Only a small cut on the nose where I had a take a tree branch while wrestling the bike with both hands trying not to hit the tree. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (14 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-15-2006 10:46 PM Tight Trail Woods riding is fun but takes a lot of concentration and finesse. After a while you KNOW the complete dimensions of you and your bike very well. Don't ask me how this tree got to be in the middle of the trail . . . Cannonshot 05-15-2006 10:51 PM Nice Shot Nice picture of Maynard and Greg. I kept trying to give these guys an out as I knew they were soaked and cold. They wouldn't hear of it making it clear that they came to ride and by god that was what they were going to do. Real troopers. We took turns chasing each other around - although I was on the slow side with my overloaded bike. It was more like jet skiing the first day than motorcycling. Water everywhere. Deep puddles in the whoops. It was better to let someone else lead to clean out the puddles a little. What a mess - but still a riot! You could stay warm working hard in the woods. If you got an open road section you froze. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (15 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-15-2006 10:55 PM Greg and I I wore my riding clothes (and armor) under a gore-tex rain suit. I still got soaked and my boots were full of water - but I was reasonably warm. The nice thing about gore-tex is that if you wear it long enough you start to dry out. In between rain storms I put on a pair of gore-tex insulated gloves that were soaked. Within a couple of hours they were warm and nearly dry. I wore the rain suit all week. My riding clothes are still "clean". http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (16 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot Trail http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (17 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM 05-15-2006 10:57 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-15-2006 10:58 PM Trail Cannonshot Trail http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (18 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM 05-15-2006 10:59 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot Trail http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (19 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM 05-15-2006 10:59 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-15-2006 11:01 PM Whooped Out Trail Many of the Michigan trails get groomed. Even so, there are a lot of whooped out sections. My suspension has many, many severe cycles on it. My chain and sprockets paid the price as well. Cannonshot 05-15-2006 11:04 PM Time to Say Goodbye It was getting late in the afternoon and Greg and Maynard had to "road it" back to the trail head. It was cold and they were soaked and the road trip was going to be miserable. Finally they agreed to head back. Here we are saying goodbye. Thanks Maynard and Greg! You guys are great! Looking foward to the MI Six Days! http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (20 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-15-2006 11:30 PM Time to Get a Move On It seems like it was taking forever to rack up some miles down in the Manistee. Mostly woods trail and enjoying each other's company in a group ride keeps the miles down. Once Greg and Maynard headed out, I did the math and figured I had to get riding if I was ever going to finish this thing. You don't have to ride fast all the time - but you have to ride and ride and ride all day long. Wet trail doesn't help. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (21 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-15-2006 11:32 PM Doing the squeeze Always squeezing between trees - especialy on corners. There was no listening to headphones on this trip - all concentration. When I would get tired or dehydrated (dull) I would sometimes scuff a few with my arms or shoulders. The dirt bagz fit nicely though. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (22 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) 2whlrcr 05-15-2006 11:33 PM How can you be "woods out"? That trail looks great!:evil Cannonshot 05-15-2006 11:35 PM Kinda Corny I was riding along in the woods when I came to this marker. At first I thought it was corny, but as I thought about it it lifted my spirits. It talks about a chance encounter between a solo rider "doing the arch" and some day riders who happened to meet at that very spot. It asks you to think about what brought you there. . . http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (23 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-15-2006 11:36 PM Love those stumps I really love all those little stumps that are in the trail from when they cleared it. One more thing to dodge besides the logs, limbs, rocks, roots, etc. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (24 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-15-2006 11:38 PM Ah sweet relief I like woods riding but I LOVE a nice dual sport route that gives you a chance to unfog your goggles and loosen up on the handlebars a bit. I really looked forward to some stretches like this just to relax a little. Cannonshot 05-15-2006 11:39 PM Spring Ride It is nice to be on the trail early in the year - before the plants lush out. This way you can see if you have to run off the trail and you know you are not going to hit a stump or a log. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (25 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot Always the squeeze . . . http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (26 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM 05-15-2006 11:40 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-15-2006 11:43 PM Flat Side Flat sided. Going up a hill and made the turn between three trees. Then for no good reason just fell over. No damage to bike or rider but that son of a gun was heavy to pick up. Must be the couple hundred pounds of nitrogen in the rear shock . . . Cannonshot Photo Op Self portrait time . . . http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (27 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM 05-15-2006 11:44 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot Trail Flashes Those trail markers are good. You just gotta believe . . . I followed the markers through these grassy hills for a while and sure enough the trail turned up again. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (28 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM 05-15-2006 11:46 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-15-2006 11:48 PM Bear Tracks It was raining so this bear had to come down the MCCCT shortly before I did. I also saw elk tracks over near Atlanta. I jumped deer all across the state. I even turned up a coyote and a porcupine one evening. Lots of grouse as well. Cannonshot 05-15-2006 11:50 PM Top Soil Mostly you deal with sand in Michigan. I guess it was good that it was raining because it kept the sand from being too loose. Occasionally you come up with a trace of top soil. Can be good for riding but it can also be greasy - especially when you add leaves. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (29 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-16-2006 12:06 AM Let me clear something up I am showing a lot of pictures of inviting looking trail that would be fun to ride. So I don't mislead anyone, there are a lot of ugly sections of trail as well. Some are downright treacherous. This trail is not for the casual dirt road rider. You really need to be a solid rider. Besides the thousands of combinations of wet and slippery roots, rocks, limbs, logs, silt, etc etc there are innumerable trees and bad places to run off (like on a steep drop into a river). The high banked turns look great but you really have to be agile because of the next hazard. It is not a matter of avoiding things (rocks, stumps, etc) because sometimes there is no choice. It is often a matter of "how am I going to survive this hit and not crash?" Also - tire pinches. You can't avoid them. When you are powering up a steep trough that is eroded so that the roots are like steps there are not a lot of choices. I had heavy duty tubes and slime and I was OK on this trip (no flats). Also, the bike needs to be geared and powered to respond immediately to save your ass. It is not just a matter of making it up a grade - it is also a matter of making the 90 degree turn between three trees near the top. I am older, less fit, and slower than I was years ago - I wish I was better than I am - but I made it OK. Also, fatigue is a huge factor. Plus - stupid stuff. I shot off the top of one of those high banked turns because I was stepping on the bash plate instead of the rear brake. Lucky I found a hole between the trees. My big foot also tapped me out of gear on some steeps grades I was bouncing up. There is usually no downshift in sand . . . no power and you grind down and lose control. OK - enough of the "don't try this at home" lecture. I just don't want to present the wrong idea. I have been accused of inadvertantly lulling people into doing stuff (like whitewater rafting right after ice-out) that is OK for me but might not be what someone else would enjoy or be safe at. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (30 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-16-2006 12:09 AM On a lighter subject . . . As I said, some sections are for pure off road bikes and some require licensing. They often warn you when this changes. Also, the white arrow signs are used for major direction changes on the trail (intersections, etc.) http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (31 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-16-2006 12:14 AM My favorite stuff This is the kind of riding I really enjoy - more dual sport stuff. The problem with the MCCCT is that you ride it because that is the route and you ride what is offered you. Some sections are in poor shape (whoops) or have branches that beat you to death. You would not normally ride 10 miles of loose sand in a ATV width trough for fun. But on the other hand, there are so many great stretches of single track that you really wouldn't want to miss. Maybe some day they will put together a "Lower Peninsula Greatest Hits" ride that combines the best dual sport with the best trail sections. THAT would be the ride!!!! Cannonshot 05-16-2006 12:19 AM Gas Gas was readily available and I had no problem with my stock 2.4 gallon tank. I had a quart camping fuel bottle on board that I never used. Gas is marked on the CCC maps (thank you or we would often have no idea). Many of the gas stops are one pump mom and pop places. If you require 93 octane get a big tank . . . it is not always available. Great people though - very helpful. I stopped in Wolf Lake for a pasty and Rinie (a great woman - the proprieter of a very small hot dog restaurant type thing) pretty much mothered me making sure I had what I needed to continue on. She even offered me an onion for the trail. Great lady. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (32 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot Its always something . . . Just when you got your groove . . . http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (33 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM 05-16-2006 12:20 AM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-16-2006 12:22 AM We're beat If this picture makes it look like the DRZ and I are tired . . . well . . . I know I was. Cannonshot Loose sand and whoops Yeah, nothing to make your day better than whoops and loose sand together. These are mild . . . http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (34 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM 05-16-2006 12:24 AM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) rokklym 05-16-2006 12:26 AM Michigan ROCKS :super Great report again Bryan. I think if you say its tough, then it probably is real tough! I've had the bump the shift lever thing happen to me a few times in tricky sections, that really sucks! Cannonshot 05-16-2006 12:31 AM Traffic I met less than 15 motorcycles on the MCCCT proper. I met a few ATVs. These fellows were good guys. We chatted for a while. They kept warning me to be careful. They were concerned that I was solo. They are right. You should not ride this thing solo. There are too many remote areas that don't get traffic. I sometimes knew when I was in bad country and rode very carefully. The GPS might help find a way out if you are able and your bike is down. I had a tow rope. It wouldn't do much good on the single track. You would have to get to a road to use it. Some places I don't even think you could push your bike out (hills, etc). You would have to disassemble it and pack it out on mules I guess . . .:rofl Two way traffic could have been a problem (especially with ATVs) IF there was traffic. I met some riders and noticed that you pick up the flash of a headlight even through the woods. Good idea to have it on all the time. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (35 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-16-2006 12:34 AM Cuts What is neat about these cuts is that once you start up one you might find it has two more turns on it that you can't see. Sometimes they are full of loose sand - at least near the bottom - so it makes it tough not to bounce off the sides. My dirt-bagz took a couple of divots out of the sides of some deep ones (with no damage to the bags so they pass the durability test). Note to Dirt-Bagz: make the extra cargo straps 4" longer so you can thread them with cold, wet, numb fingers . . . http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (36 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-16-2006 12:36 AM Trail Previews Sometimes when you turned onto a new section of trail you got a good preview of what it was going to be like. This one was wet roots and round rolling rocks . . . fun. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (37 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-16-2006 12:37 AM Quote: Originally Posted by rokklym Michigan ROCKS :super Great report again Bryan. I think if you say its tough, then it probably is real tough! I've had the bump the shift lever thing happen to me a few times in tricky sections, that really sucks! Still with me Chad? Sorry this is taking so long . . . I am still numb. Cannonshot 05-16-2006 12:40 AM Pictures don't do justice . . . Steep grade - picture doesn't show it well. Loose sand. Whoops at the bottom so you can't get a run. My tracks show that I ran out of forward motion halfway up. Managed to get the bike sideways so I could horse it back down. Would have been a lousy situation to flop it downhill in the sand. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (38 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-16-2006 12:42 AM Stinkin' sand I was slowing down to take a picture. . . That bike got heavier and heavier each time I had to pick it up. Cannonshot 05-16-2006 12:44 AM Bark busters Many of the trees along the trail have sections of bark torn off them - strikes. I finally hit something and it put me right down. Notice I left my mark. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (39 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) rokklym 05-16-2006 12:44 AM So are we on day 3? How was the camping? You didn't take that little 1 man tent did ya? Cannonshot Annoyances http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (40 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM 05-16-2006 12:45 AM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-16-2006 12:46 AM Forest Fire I went through an area that had a recent forest fire. Surreal. The ground was all wet, oily looking soot. The place smelled. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (41 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Yellow Pig 05-16-2006 12:48 AM Wow! What a great loop! Keep it comming. Cannonshot 05-16-2006 12:48 AM Face scratching #$%&! Annoying. Went through a scrubby pine area. Branches in your face all the time. It got much worse than what you see here. Cannonshot New Sections There were several new sections of trail and they were great - but tight. Looks like they reroute some sections that go bad and build new nearby. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (42 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM 05-16-2006 12:50 AM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot Cuts Heading into one of those winding sand cuts on a hill climb. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (43 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM 05-16-2006 12:52 AM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-16-2006 12:56 AM Clear Cut Areas Clear cuts varied. Some were clean with the trail still visible and some markers still in place. I was impressed when I saw that the logger cut the tree right above the marker six feet up but left the marker - everything else around it was gone. In another area the trail was essentially gone - covered by the stripped off branches and bark and sharp pointy stuff the logging machine spreads all around. That time I cross countried it to a fire road (thanks to gps) and got back on the trail on the other side. Cannonshot 05-16-2006 12:59 AM Tired I was on the road about 14 hours a day. Sometimes I was making camp in the dark. One day I rode into the night just to get to a town to get a motel room, a beer, a pizza, a shower, and a chance to dry some clothes. Woods riding is tough when it gets dark. I wasn't doing my maintenance because it was dark and I was beat. Check out this chain. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (44 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot Logs and limbs Better be up on your wet log crossings. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (45 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM 05-16-2006 01:00 AM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-16-2006 01:12 AM Getting to the end Originally I planned to ride the entire MCCCT including the cross state connector. Frankly, when I was cold and soaked (38 degrees one morning) I thought about cashing it in and doing it another time. However, I was determined (you might say "hard headed") and I wasn't going to let that bastard beat me. I got angry and focused and tore into it. After a lot of hard riding I got to where I saw I could make it. Then, after being beat down again by extended whoops, crappy trail sections, and just being burned out, one morning I got up and said when I got to the end of the arch I was going to be done (this is quite an accomplishment by itself). No back tracking and no extra 100+ miles of connector. I was relieved and had a nice day of riding. I was also really beat. I stopped for gas near the very last trail section and the attendant asked me where I was going. I was trying to explain I had to ride one last section of trail and that when I got to a state highway I was done. I pointed in the general direction and realized that I couldn't remember the name of the trail section or the state highway. Finally I uttered that I was just too tired to try to explain. When I heard myself talking I realized how numb I was. I topped off the gas and motored down the trail to find out that the area was flooded and the section I was supposed to ride was closed. I didn't know it was closed so when I found a piece of it down a flooded road I enjoyed the ride (until the trail was flooded too). Finally I ran into a conservation warden and a deputy sheriff who were working a criminal case back there and they told me the trail was closed. Cannonshot 05-16-2006 01:15 AM Finally Finally, I made it to the end of the trail - and I didn't feel anything in particular - just numbness. When I finished the dual sport safaris I could have kept going and done each of them again. Not true in this case. I did feel a bunch of mosquitos though. They were really bad in this flooded area. Made it that much easier to get the hell out of there - to anywhere - even though it was late. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (46 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-16-2006 01:38 AM Random Thoughts Well, the rest of the story is no big deal. Eventually I got home OK on the ferry. On the trip home, a gentleman from MI sat across from me. He was an off roader himself. He pulled out a sheaf of trail maps and we traded information. I hooked him up with the CCC info and some web sites. I'm sure he'll be reading this soon . . . I enjoyed the conversation! Maynard called and left a message to see how I was doing. I owe him a call. Thanks again Maynard and Greg for being the guys you are and coming out and riding on one of the worst days of the spring. I really enjoyed the company - although I'm sure you detected I was a little apprehensive about what I had ahead of me. Last year I mentioned that I wanted to organize an outing for WI folks to come across on the ferry to ride in MI. This is still on. Check this thread. http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134072 Here are the links to the other MI rides I was on (one with rokklym): LPDSS http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95040 UPDSS http://rokklym.smugmug.com/gallery/1034044/1 Six Days (2005) http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89851 CannonTrek http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152283 Six Days (2006) http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=153899 If I sounded like I was negative about some of this trail, that is not the case. I truly appreciate the effort that has gone (and continues to go) into a gem of an asset like this. I think the folks that contribute toward this are fantastic. It is just that for me it was too much of a good thing. The best way to do this would be in cool and dry weather, before vegetation lushes out, over two or three weekends, and with no load on your bike. My weariness is largely my own fault. For those that took the fans off their radiators . . . mine ran quite a bit - even in cool weather. Things I am grateful for: the trail/opportunity the cool weather (warm when riding in the woods, cold on the road sections) the reliability of my bike - even with tough use no dust (a private joke for you Maynard) http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (47 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) I figured the whole thing could be ridden in five days. I was right. What I was WRONG about was the number of hours you would have to ride each day. It turned into a marathon for me. There is a group of guys on another board that are planning on riding and camping the MCCCT this summer. Based on what I now know, I am going to try hard to talk them into doing the LPDSS instead. I know they would enjoy that much more and that they could still ride trail sections as an option. OK, enough. Finally . . . Cannonshot 05-16-2006 01:52 AM woods out Quote: Originally Posted by 2whlrcr How can you be "woods out"? That trail looks great!:evil Many of the trails are fantastic . . . but there can be TOO MUCH OF A GOOD THING. That is where I am at . . . today, at least. Round and round and up and down all day - day after day. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (48 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-16-2006 03:11 AM Camping Quote: Originally Posted by rokklym So are we on day 3? How was the camping? You didn't take that little 1 man tent did ya? Naw, I took a two man so I had room for stuff - I knew it was going to rain. Camping was readily available. Did the headphones trick (turn the radio on min volume and listen to it all night) again so I wouldn't keep getting woken up by the wind snapping the tent and rain going on and off and all the other distractions. Speaking of distractions there is a river down the hill behind the tent. Shortly before 10PM, the coyotes started up yipping and howling down there (must have been a pep rally). Got bit on the shoulder by something that produced a bad reaction, itching, and infection. Went to the vet today and got some scrips. This was something else that wore me down (besides cracked fingers from being wet all the time and the skin being worn raw on my shifting toe from wet boots and socks). Cannonshot 05-16-2006 03:49 AM Why didn't I read this before? So, I am flipping through the Handbook of Michigan Off Road Vehicle Laws when I came upon the following information: "Michigan's public off-road vehicle (ORV) trails offer thousands of miles of single- and double-track riding opportunity. Be aware that these trails are lightly groomed and riders are likely to encounter narrow sand trails, rough moguls, steep hills, stumps, rocks, brush, loose surfaces, and other hazards. Trails are designated for motorcycles and ATVs and are recommended for (italics) advanced riders only." Classic understatement. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (49 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) DruiD 05-16-2006 09:17 AM Wet It looks cool and wet. I'll bet that's neater than hot and dusty. Just think of all the pick-ups you missed, because of the wet sand. You have too much fun! See you soon! -jay klx400kev 05-16-2006 09:41 AM A++ On your trip and report. I absolutely love the detail you put into this. It is better than any reality TV show. :clap You have attained instant "Legend" status. Dark 05-16-2006 09:47 AM Great report & photos:clap Thanks for sharing Cannonshot 05-16-2006 10:56 AM Quote: Originally Posted by DruiD It looks cool and wet. I'll bet that's neater than hot and dusty. Just think of all the pick-ups you missed, because of the wet sand. You have too much fun! See you soon! -jay Jay, You are SO right about cool and wet versus hot and dusty. I keep thinking about how miserable it could get in the summer sweating your ass off, being attacked by mosquitos, eating dust, breathing exhaust fumes, sliding around loose sand, and dealing with heavy vegetation. I could have used a little better weather, but the spring conditions had their advantages. A little less standing water would have been fine. I got into a low, loamy, swampy section. When I got to the worst of it there was a braid of tracks/paths in some nasty looking mud. I didn't want to chance getting stuck being that I was alone so I decided to "island hop" from mound to mound so I wouldn't get in too deep. Well I stalled it on a steep mound leaning the wrong way and going uphill. I have a tall bike and in this position the tip of my boot barely touched on the side I was leaning. It was such a stretch that I wish I hadn't clipped my toenails because I needed the extra reach. I couldn't shift it to the other side. I was sure I was going to tip and splash right into the worst of it. Eventually I got hold of some branches from a nearby tree and managed to save myself. What a mess that would have been. I couldn't even turn my head to look down to see how I would land. Nasty. bitterjoe 05-16-2006 11:12 AM Great report and photos. Nice to see long stetches of open trails. Not too much of that in my neck of the woods. Good job. :clap http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (50 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) ldbandit76 05-16-2006 11:47 AM Great report! I used to live in Michigan, and my dad and I would ride sections of these trails. We would plan 2 or 3 days of trail riding, then get up there and ride hard for 8 hours on a Saturday. On Sunday morning we'd wake up tired and sore and generally not in the mood to beat ourselves up on sandy whoops and rutted trails. Then we'd eat a leisurely breakfast, pack up the bikes, and go home. Never did manage to do 2 days in a row up there. Good on you for sticking it out, but I know why you're not in the mood to trail ride right now. Dave Krabill 05-16-2006 12:39 PM Great report :clap I grew up in Michigan and it makes me homesick. I HAVE to make it back up there for some more trail riding. I might have missed it, but I didn't see how long it took you to do the arch? I'd like to have an estimate so I can schedule myself some vacation time :ear Cannonshot 05-16-2006 01:03 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Krabill Great report :clap I grew up in Michigan and it makes me homesick. I HAVE to make it back up there for some more trail riding. I might have missed it, but I didn't see how long it took you to do the arch? I'd like to have an estimate so I can schedule myself some vacation time :ear Four days for the arch (five if you do the cross state connector). Add one more day for group travel. When I say "days" I mean lo-n-g days (12-14 hours). But then again, the whole thing to being there is to ride, right? Someone e-mailed me and told me six professional racers once did it in two days (teams of two). It is hard to even imagine. gagnaou 05-16-2006 01:35 PM :clap Great report, congratulation for going until the end. Seems like a fun place to ride, at leaxt for a couple of days! cjracer 05-16-2006 02:42 PM Great report:clap Looking forward to getting over there this July w/ you and everyone else. Flyingavanti 05-16-2006 03:12 PM Great report! How many miles did you log? The harder the ride, the more rewarding it is! And the better the people you meet! It NEVER fails to hold true....... 12bridn 05-16-2006 03:23 PM Haven't read the whole report yet, at work(sucks), but I bet you had a blast. Can't wait to read this one.... :lurk http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (51 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Motor 05-16-2006 03:28 PM Terrific report, much like the riding we do in Pa, Wva, and Va mountains. I am on my second drz 400s and have it maxed out for single track, it has never let me down. They take a beating and keep on getting on. I would have to think about shoeing up with dunlop 756s for all that soft stuf, did you have good trction with the 606s? I am now 60 and know exactly what you mean about being tired, those bike get heavier with each pick up, eh. For a great DualSport ride get some of your local guys to come down to my clubs ride in October, The Shenandoah 500, it is one of the AMA Suzuki National Dualsport ride and in it's 14th year. link to NVTR Thanks for taking the time to give us a chance to enjoy your trip. Cannonshot 05-16-2006 05:07 PM Quote: Originally Posted by cjracer Great report:clap Looking forward to getting over there this July w/ you and everyone else. We are going to have a great time. . . Cannonshot 05-16-2006 05:22 PM same country Quote: Originally Posted by 12bridn Haven't read the whole report yet, at work(sucks), but I bet you had a blast. Can't wait to read this one.... :lurk Looks like you and I covered some of the same area. Except, when you went it looks like you had sun. That beautiful, clear Pine River was in flood and was muddy brown when I went through. Trout fisherman camped nearby were really disappointed. Cannonshot 05-16-2006 05:33 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Flyingavanti Great report! How many miles did you log? The harder the ride, the more rewarding it is! And the better the people you meet! It NEVER fails to hold true....... The more rewarding . . . absolutely! Especially when you are back home, dried out, and warmed up. I haven't unloaded my bike yet (boy, I must be beat) so I am not sure about total trip miles. Off the top of my head I would say about 650 of it can be attributed to the time I was on the trail (although this doesn't jibe with my map recon). I can say for sure that I had about 150160 NAUTICAL (ferry trip) miles though (not counting the "jet skiing" on the first day). http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (52 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-16-2006 05:47 PM Quote: Originally Posted by ldbandit76 Great report! I used to live in Michigan, and my dad and I would ride sections of these trails. We would plan 2 or 3 days of trail riding, then get up there and ride hard for 8 hours on a Saturday. On Sunday morning we'd wake up tired and sore and generally not in the mood to beat ourselves up on sandy whoops and rutted trails. Then we'd eat a leisurely breakfast, pack up the bikes, and go home. Never did manage to do 2 days in a row up there. Good on you for sticking it out, but I know why you're not in the mood to trail ride right now. Dave I recall having the same desire . . . eat a leisurely breakfast, pack up, and go home . . . E. Pluribus Funk 05-16-2006 05:54 PM great report Funny, every time I get the itch to trade my thumper in for a "Ginormous" ADV bike I run across a thread like this...thanks for the inspiration. :clap Cannonshot 05-16-2006 05:55 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Motor Terrific report, much like the riding we do in Pa, Wva, and Va mountains. I am on my second drz 400s and have it maxed out for single track, it has never let me down. They take a beating and keep on getting on. I would have to think about shoeing up with dunlop 756s for all that soft stuf, did you have good trction with the 606s? I am now 60 and know exactly what you mean about being tired, those bike get heavier with each pick up, eh. For a great DualSport ride get some of your local guys to come down to my clubs ride in October, The Shenandoah 500, it is one of the AMA Suzuki National Dualsport ride and in it's 14th year. link to NVTR Thanks for taking the time to give us a chance to enjoy your trip. I don't know about tires too much. I buy the D606s because they seem like an OK all around tire with good wear. I thought about dropping my tire pressure but kept it up because of the extra weight on the bike and all the objects I was striking front and rear (miss it with the front wheel and hit it with the rear). Probably the biggest factor was that the tires were brand new. Neil E. 05-16-2006 06:13 PM A superb ride report. Great pictures. It's nice to see a place that welcomes off road vehicles. 2TrakR 05-16-2006 06:17 PM Great write up as always, Bryan! Not the best time of year for the Trail Safari, but it's always good to be riding. Maintenance crews are still working on trail sections, not all of it gets done until (just) before Memorial Day, thus the extra downed trees. We had quite the monsoon when you were riding; spectacularly dry just before then. You rode through some of the extra dry weather outcomes in the Meadows system - that was 5000+ acres of just burned USFS forest. Just burned as in the week before. While it's still fresh in your mind.. any suggestions on how to improve the Trail Safari package from the CCC? http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (53 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Cannonshot 05-16-2006 06:50 PM Quote: Originally Posted by 2TrakR Great write up as always, Bryan! Not the best time of year for the Trail Safari, but it's always good to be riding. Maintenance crews are still working on trail sections, not all of it gets done until (just) before Memorial Day, thus the extra downed trees. We had quite the monsoon when you were riding; spectacularly dry just before then. You rode through some of the extra dry weather outcomes in the Meadows system - that was 5000+ acres of just burned USFS forest. Just burned as in the week before. While it's still fresh in your mind.. any suggestions on how to improve the Trail Safari package from the CCC? Jeramey, The package is great. Waterproof map sheets would be nice. I have been through a variety of map cases. What worked great this time was to put the sheets in document protectors and then seal the tops with tape. You can fold them, stash them, and refer to them with little effort. Everything seems like a bigger pain in the rain though. I don't know how you guys GPS all that stuff. I lost my signal a lot in the deep stuff. Everything was fine with the package - but I was already familiar with the stuff after the two safari packages so I might not be the one to ask. I mentioned a "greatest hits" tour. That would be FANTASTIC! With so many riders over there with great trail knowledge, it would be neat to figure out the best pieces and link them between dual sport and trail. I guess you already do this to some extent for the six days dual sport rides. I know I really enjoyed them last year. I really want to thank you and your people for the work you guys do on these safaris and the mapping. The map CD is fantastic. Maybe someday I'll get to buy you a beer or two. I don't know who to tell, but there is a short stretch up near Tower that needs some sign work. It is the piece just south of town. I was so spoiled by the trail markers that I missed the first right turn and eventually turned around to get back on the track. Then I missed the second turn and ended up in a soft sand pit. Backtracking got me to the muddy wet road I was supposed to be on that was not evident due to elevation, etc. I believe the roads involved are Covell's Camp Road and Centerline Road. If memory serves me we had trouble with this at the six days last year as well. Perhaps the locals may have taken down the signs to keep traffic off their street? We all owe a lot to the folks that maintain these trails. They do a fantastic job. Reality is that there will also be bad spots, deadfalls, and the like. No matter how frustrated I might have gotten for the moment, I still had a deep appreciation for these folks. Pass it on if you ever get the chance. Rusty Rocket 05-16-2006 06:52 PM Wow, what a report. I can't imagine doing it alone. Do you have a kick starter on that DRZ? I'm scared about my electric starter letting me down. It's the first one I have ever had in 30+ yrs of offroading. Cannonshot 05-16-2006 07:08 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Rusty Rocket Wow, what a report. I can't imagine doing it alone. Do you have a kick starter on that DRZ? I'm scared about my electric starter letting me down. It's the first one I have ever had in 30+ yrs of offroading. I killed a battery once during a DS event and had to be bump started with a tow rope for a day and a half. That is one reason why I carry one - for me! I hear people say you can bump a DRZ pretty easy - yeah but not on mud, sand, or dirt. I don't have a kick starter, but I am careful about my battery. That is one reason I don't plug my GPS in. I run it on batteries. When you are lugging along in the tight stuff there is not much charging going on - especially with the lights running. I had to use the electric start quite a bit so I was conscious of minimizing the cranks. After a flat side make sure you change the petcock to PRI to refill http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (54 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) the carb without cranking to use vacuum. That can kill you quick. I also pack a small battery charger in case I do kill it. (What would I do, plug it into a "current" bush?) It would take a long time to reliably bring back a dead battery just on the power the bike produces. sperduton 05-16-2006 08:30 PM 1 Attachment(s) Quote: Originally Posted by Cannonshot Finally, I made it to the end of the trail - and I didn't feel anything in particular - just numbness. When I finished the dual sport safaris I could have kept going and done each of them again. Not true in this case. I did feel a bunch of mosquitos though. They were really bad in this flooded area. Made it that much easier to get the hell out of there - to anywhere - even though it was late. That tree looks familiar :clap :clap :clap :D :D :D from 1998. Times are GMT -5. It's 02:11 PM. Page 1 of 2 1 2 > Show 100 posts from this thread on one page Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.2 Copyright ©2000 - 2006, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Copyright ADVrider 2006 http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&pp=100 (55 of 55)11/5/06 2:22 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Page 2 of < 1 2 2 Show 100 posts from this thread on one page ADVrider (http://www.advrider.com/forums/index.php) - Ride reports and pics, pics, pics... (http://www.advrider.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2) - - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138402) Cannonshot 05-16-2006 08:40 PM Quote: Originally Posted by sperduton That tree looks familiar :clap :clap :clap :D :D :D from 1998. History keeps repeating itself. . . Maybe we can encourage a few others to enjoy these trips. matkal 05-16-2006 09:06 PM Wow! Great report and pics! You make the trip come to life, I feel as though I've been there(well I have, a small part of it a long time ago) You give us guys(40 and up) inspiration to go dirt biking again. Now back to page 5 to continue the story. :clap:clap:clap:clap 2whlrcr 05-16-2006 10:38 PM Bryan, you under estimate yourself. You are ready for an enduro. You may not win, but you will finish. It just takes the will to do so and you proved it, by that ride. Nice job. I've got to go there. Looks like great riding. And I think you made a good choice with the wet weather. Wet sand is sooooo much better than dry sand!!:clap :clap :clap :clap :clap Cannonshot 05-16-2006 11:01 PM Riding Enduros Again . . . Quote: Originally Posted by 2whlrcr Bryan, you under estimate yourself. You are ready for an enduro. You may not win, but you will finish. It just takes the will to do so and you proved it, by that ride. Nice job. I've got to go there. Looks like great riding. And I think you made a good choice with the wet weather. Wet sand is sooooo much better than dry sand!!:clap :clap :clap :clap :clap I REALLY enjoyed enduros 20-25 years ago. Back then I rode really hard just trying not to hour out. I did score a second in Open C once - must not have been too many riders in that class that day . . . Yeah, I would finish. I only quit once, after riding the first 60 mile loop with a broken clutch hand. Had to stick it into a cooler full of beer just to get the glove off. Young and dumb. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&page=2&pp=100 (1 of 10)11/5/06 2:25 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) For now, I think I really like the dual sport stuff. Although, when someone passes me on the trail I still get a little sporty and sometimes the race is on. . . The DS is nice because you can "race" a little and then stop and chat or take a few pictures. You would have a blast at the Six Days of Michigan in July. You could get in on some great trail rides or mix in some dual sport rides as well (the DS rides are combos of trail and 2 track and other neat stuff). Plus, it is great to see all the bikes and riders gathered there. ldeikis 05-17-2006 10:11 AM Great report :clap I grew up in Michigan but my parents weren't so into letting me have anything bigger than a minibike. As soon as I turned 18 I went out and bought a little dualsport honda, but I moved out shortly thereafter... Been DYING to come home and run the 6 Days or one of the Safaris, but it's a good 800+ miles away noe, so it's a bit daunting. When I think of all the hassles we go through in the northeast to ride teeny tiny areas compared to what exists back in Michigan it can really get a man down. Still have Michigan plates, though, and I'll do it one day. Thanks for taking the time to shoot the pics. -Luke 2TrakR 05-17-2006 10:39 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Cannonshot The package is great. Waterproof map sheets would be nice. We were trying that this year as an option, but it didn't work out. Found some new paper that is supposed to be "the stuff" that we are going to try, hopefully, in the near future. Quote: I don't know who to tell, but there is a short stretch up near Tower that needs some sign work. It is the piece just south of town. Know the spot, it's been rerouted on the pavement for that section. Your "missed turn" was actually the correct path. I need to update the Safari package to show this. Did you actually go down/through that muddy road? Looked pretty deep when I was up there checking it out last fall. Cannonshot 05-17-2006 10:44 AM Quote: Originally Posted by 2TrakR Know the spot, it's been rerouted on the pavement for that section. Your "missed turn" was actually the correct path. I need to update the Safari package to show this. Did you actually go down/through that muddy road? Looked pretty deep when I was up there checking it out last fall. Yeah, there were one or two bad spots, the rest was just messy. It was more like a grassy lane with mud holes. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&page=2&pp=100 (2 of 10)11/5/06 2:25 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) 12bridn 05-17-2006 11:53 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Cannonshot Looks like you and I covered some of the same area. Except, when you went it looks like you had sun. That beautiful, clear Pine River was in flood and was muddy brown when I went through. Trout fisherman camped nearby were really disappointed. That was near Caberfae, I believe. FD has the GPS tracks, so he could tell you. We discussed riding the whole M3CT in a week. That would allow a more relaxed pace, and maybe I could throw a line in the Pine. Those whoops pics make my thighs ache. I couldn't walk straight for 3 days after. Third gear, bouncing across the tops, wandering tires on the sandy ones... but I'd do it again in a heartbeat. :deal Cannonshot 05-17-2006 03:28 PM Quote: Originally Posted by 12bridn We discussed riding the whole M3CT in a week. That would allow a more relaxed pace, and maybe I could throw a line in the Pine. :deal Take a good look at those 1200 mile dual sport safaris (upper or lower peninsula). It would be a very comfortable and enjoyable five day ride. In the lower peninsula you get more technical riding on the safari plus you have a lot of opportunities to jump on the single track. Now that I tried them all, I would recommend the LPDSS for the reasons I just mentioned. skeeter 05-18-2006 01:21 PM Great report and great pics. Makes me want to take a week off and head up there. Gotta give you lots of credit for doing it solo. After seeing the pictures I wouldn't attempt it without at least 1 riding partner. MeefZah 05-19-2006 07:29 PM Not sure how I missed this one but a buddy just e-mailed me the link. WOW! Well done, I am envious! Neil Claydon 05-20-2006 10:38 PM Thanks What a superb report and pics.:clap :clap And thanks for the PM . Neil. waltert Awesome ride. Awesome report. Thanks for the PM heads up. :clap :clap (I just had to read it again and again) http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&page=2&pp=100 (3 of 10)11/5/06 2:25 PM 05-21-2006 12:11 AM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) kittycactus 05-21-2006 01:19 PM Great report and pictures! Makes me proud that we have such a cool trail system in our state. I have to say though, that if my husband told me he was going to do the ride you did solo, I would be a nervous wreck worrying about him. You had a couple of shots of big downed trees across the trail, how time consuming was it to get around them? We were on part of the Tomahawk B loop yesterday and there are a lot of trees down, but that trail also gets a lot of traffic and there was a beaten path around the downed stuff; doesn't seem to be the case on some of the sections you were on. Again, good job! Singletrack Mind 05-21-2006 03:36 PM Soggy Maps [quote=2TrakR]We were trying that this year as an option, but it didn't work out. Found some new paper that is supposed to be "the stuff" that we are going to try, hopefully, in the near future. You might consider this Map Seal stuff. You paint it on to your map and it hardens into a soft plastic lamination. I've never tried it but it sounds good found at: http://www.escape-co.com/gear_care.htm Here is the product's claim: "Ever been hiking in the rain and tried to read your map? If you've treated it with Map Seal, there's no need to worry. It's a high polymer coating that encases maps, nautical charts and other paper products in a permanently waterproof, clear and flexible film. Map Seal is water-based, dries crystal clear, can be written on with pen or pencil, and the best part is that you can still fold and unfold your map indefinitely, without fear of tearing, cracking or breaking the waterproof seal. Great for use on any document that you want to protect from moisture and dirt, and can also be used to make your own waterproof notepaper." Sorry to stray... Awesome Report !!! More ride reports please. Cannonshot 05-21-2006 10:42 PM Quote: Originally Posted by kittycactus Great report and pictures! Makes me proud that we have such a cool trail system in our state. I have to say though, that if my husband told me he was going to do the ride you did solo, I would be a nervous wreck worrying about him. You had a couple of shots of big downed trees across the trail, how time consuming was it to get around them? We were on part of the Tomahawk B loop yesterday and there are a lot of trees down, but that trail also gets a lot of traffic and there was a beaten path around the downed stuff; doesn't seem to be the case on some of the sections you were on. Again, good job! KC, In some areas there is not a lot of trail use. You just pick your way around the deadfalls through the woods trying not to tear things up off the trail (tread lightly). The maintenance crews should have the major drops cleaned up this month I guess. Although, I was on someone's fresh track one day and it became apparent a tree dropped since that person went through - kind of neat. There is always something to inerrupt your groove . . . http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&page=2&pp=100 (4 of 10)11/5/06 2:25 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) tittiger 05-25-2006 03:19 PM >Dirt-Bagz for cargo and a Wolferman tank bag. >Cee-Bailey windshield (knew it was a bad idea but I did it anyway - busted >it off). >Handlebar mount GPS. >Tent, sleeping bag tied down tight with a rachet strap and a bungee web. I have taken a few camping trips on my KLR and am amazed by how little others seem to take when doing the same. I have a big wolman tank bag, tank panniers, 10 inch aluminum panniers and a large dry bag on the back seat!!! :huh Joe - Fort Myers FL Skinner 05-25-2006 08:41 PM Oh man, I did'nt see this till now. Why did we not hear this tale fireside in Trenary? Congrats on the ride, and thanks for the report. I will be doing that soon, I am sure of it! Thanks for the encouragement! MNwilly 05-25-2006 09:18 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Skinner Oh man, I did'nt see this till now. Why did we not hear this tale fireside in Trenary? Congrats on the ride, and thanks for the report. I will be doing that soon, I am sure of it! Thanks for the encouragement! We talked about it every time we took a break on Saturday. I will be coming back to see you guys, even after I move. Don't forget, my mom lives in Eastern Wisconson.:deal PackMule 05-25-2006 09:54 PM Quote: Originally Posted by Cannonshot Some places I don't even think you could push your bike out (hills, etc). You would have to disassemble it and pack it out on mules I guess . . .:rofl You rang... :wink: Awesome report. It blows me away that there's a trail like this. The longest continuous trail anywhere near here (that allows bikes -- snowmobiles are a different story) is about 21 miles. Boring old railbed, too. Might be worth throwing a couple bikes on a trailer and heading out that way... Great report, thanks! :thumb http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&page=2&pp=100 (5 of 10)11/5/06 2:25 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) cool ish 05-26-2006 08:15 AM Good Kar(bike)ma Hey Cannonshot, Thank you Sir for taking me out of this heating plant in Brooklyn, NY and putting me into the lower P. :clap This report rates better than the report that 4 out of 5 dentists still recommend chewing. Cannonshot 05-28-2006 03:45 AM Any Relation? Quote: Originally Posted by PackMule You rang... :wink: (1800s version of a dirt bike. No mods, no farkle . . .) Chadleys1 excellent thread Great thread, Cannonshot. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&page=2&pp=100 (6 of 10)11/5/06 2:25 PM 05-28-2006 12:23 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) YZman 06-03-2006 11:45 PM Finially I got registered. Hey all. I am one of the guys that Cannon mentioned is riding the Safari end of this month. There are 5 of us going at it. We are riding and camping right of the bikes. No veichle support. I am riding a CRF250X. Others are going to be on WR400, DRZ400,Husaberg, WR250. Should be an interesting group. Hardest part I think is keeping everyone moving all day long. I was telling Cannon that Allen Randt, Mike Laferdy and a few others did the entire Safari in 2 days. Thats just hard core. That trail plaque that he comented on is where my 78 yr old friend Ted Desolar met my Friend Scott on the trail. Ted was doing the trail safari solo on an old penton a few years back and met Scott on the trail and they have been friends since. Another funny coincidence on Cannons ride is his meeting with Rene in Baldwin. We (Ted, Scott, and I) met her a few years back when she was working at Mothers Cupbord. She suprised the heck out of Scott when she called Ted by name having never met him before. Scott is still baffled how Ted can be known way up in Baldwin when he lives in Chicago. Well Ill try to post plenty of pictures and a writeup of my Safari here for you all. With 5 of us riding I am sure there is going to be plenty of advenure to be had. MeCasa 06-04-2006 12:00 AM Quote: Originally Posted by Cannonshot The Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) is billed as "The Longest Continuous Marked Motorcycle Trail on Earth". I don't know if it really is or isn't, but I do know it is a long difficult ride that deals out elation and frustration in heavy doses. I just got home from "riding the arch" and I'm still pretty beat, so if I sometimes don't make much sense or repeat myself that is why. Good for you motherfucker, if I don't recognize anything else, I recognize the 'fuck you' expression that only comes from a long day http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&page=2&pp=100 (7 of 10)11/5/06 2:25 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) What can I say, if you passed by my place I'd offer a shower But quit ogling my wonan, bitch will think I was serious about that gang bang stuff Congrats on a good ride ;-) Cannonshot 06-04-2006 10:48 AM Quote: Originally Posted by MeCasa Congratulations! I recognize an expression of quiet satisfaction on your face. If you had been near my place in Texas, I would have been glad to offer my hospitality. Congrats on a good ride ;-) Refined version of previous post. MeCasa 06-04-2006 11:26 AM Haha, that wasn't me, I'm an edumicated man, it was the Jack Daniels, but ya, you come through Texas, you got a place to stay, we'll take a run down to Big Bend. Good ride PackMule Quote: Originally Posted by Cannonshot (1800s version of a dirt bike. No mods, no farkle . . .) http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&page=2&pp=100 (8 of 10)11/5/06 2:25 PM 06-04-2006 01:33 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) :D :thumbup That damn thing will go just about anywhere (just like my MiniMule KLR2-fiddy). :thumb toothy 06-04-2006 02:48 PM That was a great write up. :thumb Cannonshot 06-06-2006 11:45 AM Quote: Originally Posted by YZman Finially I got registered. Hey all. I am one of the guys that Cannon mentioned is riding the Safari end of this month. There are 5 of us going at it. We are riding and camping right of the bikes. No veichle support. I am riding a CRF250X. Others are going to be on WR400, DRZ400,Husaberg, WR250. Should be an interesting group. Hardest part I think is keeping everyone moving all day long. I was telling Cannon that Allen Randt, Mike Laferdy and a few others did the entire Safari in 2 days. Thats just hard core. That trail plaque that he comented on is where my 78 yr old friend Ted Desolar met my Friend Scott on the trail. Ted was doing the trail safari solo on an old penton a few years back and met Scott on the trail and they have been friends since. Another funny coincidence on Cannons ride is his meeting with Rene in Baldwin. We (Ted, Scott, and I) met her a few years back when she was working at Mothers Cupbord. She suprised the heck out of Scott when she called Ted by name having never met him before. Scott is still baffled how Ted can be known way up in Baldwin when he lives in Chicago. http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&page=2&pp=100 (9 of 10)11/5/06 2:25 PM ADVrider - Michigan Cross Country Cycle Trail (MCCCT) Well Ill try to post plenty of pictures and a writeup of my Safari here for you all. With 5 of us riding I am sure there is going to be plenty of advenure to be had. Best of luck to you guys! Looking forward to a ride report with a lot of pictures. 2whlrcr 08-03-2006 12:08 AM This thread has started me planning a trip to Michigan! Times are GMT -5. It's 02:24 PM. Page 2 of 2 < 1 2 Show 100 posts from this thread on one page Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.2 Copyright ©2000 - 2006, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Copyright ADVrider 2006 http://www.advrider.com/forums/printthread.php?t=138402&page=2&pp=100 (10 of 10)11/5/06 2:25 PM