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Best Selling Author Johnathan Stars FileMaker - MacGroup
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Best Selling
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Johnathan Stars
presents
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at the October
Meeting
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Trim the fat from your iTunes
Music Library
By Terry White
L
arge iTunes music collections are your library that are encoded at different
quite common these days. People encoding rates. As time went on and as
really like the advantages of having I converted more and more of my CDs,
their entire music collection at their finger- my collection of digital songs grew and
tips or in the palms of their hands via iPod. grew. At one point I decided to take the
I’ve read stories and comments from thou- plunge and convert all my remaining CDs
sands of users who dedicate hard drives into MP3 format. So over the course
and/or computers to their digital music.
of a weekend, I put my CDs into my
If you’ve been enjoying digital computers (I used multiple Macs to get
music for more than a couple of years, this done) one-by-one until they were all
chances are you started out converting done. Keep in mind that, my collection is
your Audio CDs to MP3 format. I was modest compared to many of you. I only
doing this long before iTunes. My favor- have about 200-300 CDs (if that, as
ite product before iTunes was SoundJam. I’ve never counted them).
By the way, Apple hired the guy who
When Apple introduced iTunes 4
wrote SoundJam and soon after, Apple and the iTunes Music Store in April 2003,
introduced iTunes. Back then I didn’t they also introduced support for a NEW
really know much about encoding and industry standard encoding format called
bit rates. So I started by encoding all my Advanced Audio Coding (AAC).
songs into MP3 format at 128 kbps. The AAC format is based upon MPEG4
music sounded OK to me at the time and and promised to deliver higher quality
although there is a difference between audio at lower bit rates (and therefore
the sound coming from the original CD smaller file sizes). For example, a 128 kbps
and the MP3, it wasn’t enough of a dif- AAC file is supposed to sound as good,
ference for my ears to really distinguish if not better than a larger 160 kbps MP3
or care about. Then Apple introduced file. Advanced Audio Coding (AAC)
iTunes and SoundJam was discontinued is a wideband audio coding algorithm
shortly thereafter. I noticed that Apple’s that exploits two primary coding stratedefault encoding setting for iTunes back gies to dramatically reduce the amount of
then was MP3 at 160 kbps (bit rate). So data needed to convey high-quality digiI figured Apple knew best and I contin- tal audio. First, signal components that are
ued encoding NEW CDs at this setting. “perceptually irrelevant” and can be disThe higher the encoding rate the larger the carded without a perceived loss of audio
MP3 file would be. However, it would quality are removed. Next, redundancies
potentially sound better than the ones in the coded audio signal are eliminated.
encoded at 128 kbps, so it was worth Efficient audio compression is achieved
the slight increase in file sizes. Of course by a variety of perceptual audio coding
this resulted in my having some songs at and data compression tools, which are
128 kbps and some at 160 kbps. iTunes combined in the MPEG-4 AAC specidoesn’t really care about having songs in fication.
With support for AAC built right
into iTunes 4 users would now have a
choice to encode their songs in AAC
format or MP3 format. Each format has
its pros and cons. With MP3 you have
greater compatibility outside the Apple
world. You can burn MP3 CDs that work
in a variety of Stereos, new Car Stereos,
Boom boxes, 3rd Party music players and
various video editing apps. However, the
file sizes will be larger and the quality may
not be as good (unless you really crank
up the bit rate and therefore produce
an even larger file). With AAC format,
song files will almost always be smaller
in size than their MP3 counterparts and
potentially sound better. However, you
give up wide compatibility. AAC files
can’t be burned to MP3 CDs without
first converting them into MP3 format. To
my knowledge they are not compatible
with any other music player other than
the iPod. There is also the issue of using
the music files in your various software
apps for making videos and presentations.
For example, iLife ’04 supports AAC
just fine, but Apple’s own Final Cut Pro
HD doesn’t! You would have to convert
the song to AIFF or MP3 to use it in a
Final Cut Pro project.
Since I have an iPod and I won’t
be using the majority of my music library
in presentations and videos, the AAC
format is very attractive to me. The smaller
the music file, the more songs I can fit on
my iPod and iPod mini. The smaller the
music library, the less hard drive space it
will take up. Also with my songs being
encoded in AAC format, they would
potentially sound better than those songs
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I originally encoded at 128 kbps in MP3
format.
AAC (.m4a) vs. Protected
AAC (.m4p)
If you buy and download a song
from the iTunes Music Store, it will be in
a Protected version of the AAC format.
This form of digital rights management was
the only way that Apple was to be successful in convincing the record labels to
sign up to the store. A Protected AAC
file has restrictions to it. You can only
play it on the up to 5 computers that are
authorized to the account that purchased
it (which is quite generous and should
cover the vast majority of households).
You can burn it onto 8 audio CDs (without having to alter the playlist) that will
work in any audio CD player built in the
last 5-8 years. You can put them on an
unlimited number of iPods, you can use
them in your iLife ’04 projects such as
iPhoto and iDVD, and you can stream
them using AirTunes to your AirPort
Express. When you encode your own
audio CDs into AAC format, they do
NOT have these restrictions. They are
in an unprotected/unrestricted AAC
format.
Now that I’ve built a case for
AAC, there was one big problem! How
do I get my MP3s converted over to
AAC? The answer is to re-encode (rerip) them. Once a song has been turned
into an MP3 file, the sound quality has
already been lost forever. So converting
an MP3 into AAC will potentially make
it smaller, but it won’t make it sound any
better. You need to go back to original
CDs and convert the CDs into AAC
format to yield the best possible quality. Although time consuming, that wasn’t
the real problem. The real problem was
that I have spent years organizing my
songs into playlists, rating them, scanning
in/downloading album art, etc. I didn’t
want to lose all this work for the sake
of a smaller better sounding file. I then
discovered that iTunes 4.6 (not sure
what version it first appeared in), has
a hidden secret! If you put a Audio
CD into your computer that has already
been converted and you click the import
button anyway, you will get a dialog box
asking if you want to “Import them again?”
(the default choice), which would create
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duplicates OR “Replace Existing” songs
that are already there? If you click the
Replace Existing button, iTunes will
encode the songs using whatever encoding method you have set in the preferences (AAC/128 kbps is the default
now) and AUTOMATICALLY
replace the songs with
the same name, artist
and album name. It
will KEEP the rest of
the info and album art
intact. So you won’t
lose your ratings, play
counts,
comments,
album art, position in
your playlists, etc. This
was EXACTLY what
I needed!
There is a little
more work than meets
the eye though. The
song name, album
name, artist name and
disc number have to
be identical. If they are
off by one space or
character, iTunes will
assume it’s a different
song and re-import
it as a duplicate. This
problem
becomes
more of an issue the
older the original file is.
The Gracenote CD database that iTunes
uses to look up song names and other
info contains tons of errors, typos, etc. So
songs you imported two years ago, may
not have the same exact names today. For
example, “You and I” by Rick James, may
be listed as “You & I”. An album name
may be missing a comma or apostrophe.
They may have spelled out the number
one, but in your existing song name it’s
“1”. Any of these kinds of discrepancies
will throw off iTunes and cause a duplicate. So when you put the CD in and
iTunes looks up the names, double click
on the CD icon in iTunes to open it in
a separate window. Then in your main
iTunes window search for the Album
to look at them side-by-side so that you
can compare every detail before clicking
the import button. When I had discrep-
of the MP3 and the Audio CD. If there
appears to be no difference whatsoever,
chances are that there is a disc number on
one and not the other. The way to fix
this is to highlight the song name in question and choose Get Info from the iTunes
File Menu. In the song info tab, compare
ancies, I let the actual Audio CD jewel
case be the judge. I looked at the back
of the jewel case to see which one was
right, and then I would change either the
name of the songs that were about to be
imported or the name of the songs that
were already in my library to the correct
name. Once they matched in both places,
iTunes should prompt you with the
Replace Existing” dialog box when you
hit the Import button. If you accidentally
get a duplicate, select and delete the new
AAC file and compare the names again
every detail to the same info tab of the
song you’re about to import.
Bonus Benefit
I got an unexpected bonus, by reencoding my songs! Most of my original
MP3 files didn’t have the Year for the
songs in the song info. The newly created AAC files do! So my “80’s Music”
playlist now actually contains a lot more
music from the 80’s!
Combining my CDs with songs
I’ve purchased online, I now have
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Here is the same song in MP3 at 128 kbps, AAC at 128 kbps, MP3 at 160 kbps, Apple Lossless and uncompressed AIFF
about 3,550 songs. My library originally
weighed in at 15.89 Gigabytes. After
the conversion and keeping in mind I’m
still looking for a few of my CDs that
I couldn’t find, therefore I’m not 100%
AAC yet, my library now weighs in at
14.75 Gigabytes. That’s down by over
ONE GIGABYTE! That also means it
reduces the amount of space taken up
on my iPod by one gigabyte. That also
means that I can fit more songs on the
limited space of my iPod mini.
So if you have a bunch of MP3s
encoded at 128 kbps, you probably
won’t gain that much hard drive space
back, but the songs will probably sound
better in AAC format. If you have a
bunch of MP3s encoded at 160 kbps,
then you will probably on average
reduce each song file down by at least
one megabyte and the sound quality will
be about the same.
Apple has also recently introduced
another encoding format called “Apple
Lossless.” This format is supposed to
sound just as good as the CD, however
at almost half the size of the uncompressed AIFF format. This format is ideal
for the true audiophile with tons of hard
drive space.
It actually took me more than a few
days to complete this project as I have
more CDs than I did originally and I had
to constantly compare file names and
other info to make sure the songs would
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Before the conversion to AAC, this CD was 84.6 MB in MP3 format
After the conversion to AAC, this CD is now 67.1MB in AAC format - as you can see, the “My Rating”, Play Count, Last Played, and Date Added remained the same!
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The Ultimate iPod Sound System
Reviewed by Jeff Mantey
O
ver the last couple years the
iPod has grown exponentially
in popularity. I didn’t buy one
until the 3rd generation model came out
last year and have been very happy with
the music player every since. I use the
device for transporting large files and for
listening to music through headphones.
But that gets to the problem. I don’t
want to always listen to music using headphones. I could buy cables and plug the
iPod into my home stereo but I wanted
something more portable. Earlier this year
I bought the Altec Lansing “Inmotion”
speaker system which is fine for what it
is …. a small portable speaker system
that puts out average sound quality and
is more appropriate for a small room or
cubicle at work. At the time, that was
the only option available. But on October 1st , that all changed as a much better,
portable speaker system became available. Bose introduced a brand new iPod
speaker system called the “SoundDock”.
I had a chance to hear the “SoundDock”
at the local Bose store about a week
before the official introduction date. I
was convinced within 30 seconds of
hearing the wonderful, full sound coming
out of the speakers that this was something I just had to buy.
The Bose “SoundDock” is a relatively
small speaker system that 11.91” wide,
6.65” high, and 6.48” deep. It weighs
around 4.5 pounds. It comes with 5
dock inserts to accommodate the following iPods: 10/15/20GB, 30/40GB, mini,
20GB Click Wheel, and the 40GB
Click Wheel. It also comes with a remote
control that includes the following: off
button, two volume buttons, two buttons to allow incrementing either to the
next track or previous track, a play button
that also pauses. You can’t use the
remote to go between separate
playlists but just having a remote
to control the basics makes using
the “SoundDock” an enjoyable
unit to have. The iPod will also
charge while the system is off.
The “SoundDock” is white
in color with a silver screen over
the speakers. It is well designed
and looks good just sitting on
the table. The “SoundDock” sounded
good in the store but sounds even better
in the home environment. This system
will project wonderful sound at any
volume. It will definitely fill a room with
clear, loud, high quality sound. I am
extremely pleased with the “SoundDock”
and highly recommend it to anyone who
wants an excellent sounding portable
iPod sound system. Yes, it’s the ultimate
portable iPod sound system.
The “SoundDock” retails for $299
and is available from www.bose.com
and www.apple.com as well as their
respective brick and mortar stores.
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SafariSorter
by Chita Hunter
W
hat started off inquisitively
and innocently enough as
a topic on the MacGroup
iBBS, sorting Safari’s Bookmarks, evolved
for me, into a software download on a
sunny Saturday morning, with a “Let’s see
what ya got” attitude.
At first I was going to gloss over
this application after reading about it on
VersionTracker.com, but the developers
response to a comment lead me to delve
on to see how or if this little app could
be helpful to me. From the VersionTracker site, I couldn’t really determine if
the program went beyond what I could
do manually and I couldn’t determine if
the program could be specific.
Before I installed, I followed the link
that the developer supplied on VersionTracker.com to read more about the program, and decided to give it a try.
For the most part, my Bookmarks are
already alphabetized. But it wasn’t always
(or pretty much ever) a delightful job to
do. My real reason for wanting to try this
program was a basic no brainer: I have
Bookmarks. I add Bookmarks. I want them
alphabetized all the time. I don’t want to
do it manually. You?
After installation, you don’t even
have to quit Safari for this program to
work. It runs separately from Safari. Upon
launch, the program first asks if you want
to read the documentation before setting
your preferences. I had to smile at this one.
Most just want to drive, not know what
makes it go. Me, I read.
Up pops the SafariSorter Help file
as well as the Prefs dialogue window.
One key question was answered
immediately reading Quick Start Basic
Operation. “SafariSorter never moves
bookmarks from the subfolder where you
have them. SafariSorter simply re-orders
the bookmarks within each folder.” But, if
it matters to you, once a sort is executed,
your original unsorted bookmarks file is
replaced and cannot be recovered. So,
we all know what we should do if this
matters to us don’t we? Nod your head
yes.
Upon reading the SafariSorter
Help file, there’s even a undocumented
tip for how to use the Safari Find command. “Order of Sorting” is a particularly
good read. It’ll even generate thoughts
on how you may want to redesign how
your bookmarks are sorted now or in the
future.
After reading the SafariSorter Help
file and making the Preferences changes,
and of course, copying that special file. I
let the program run. Three seconds later, it
was done and gave me the results. I was
surprised to see that I had “56 pairs of
duplicate bookmarks.”
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You are given the option to “fix”
these. Keep or Delete. Fixes are immediate. My preferences alphabetized my
Safari Menu Bar, alphabetized the contents of their folders (folders and URL’s
mixed together) and notified me of all
duplicates.
SafariSorter will perform this sorting
task as automated to do so at launch, at
a certain time of day or manually. The
“Instructions, How, What, When” of the
Preferences are very straightforward and
easy to follow.
This program is nice, succinct, helpful and works great. Thanks for bringing it
up on the iBBS Switcher and Chuck Reti.
The developer of the program did insert
his political commentary into the Help file
and it has caused some talk, like politics
and religion usually do. My review is only
of the merits of the program.
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Tips & Tricks
by Phyllis Evans
pmevans@mac.com
Backup, Backup, Backup
F
ound a quick way to bring up the
OS X System Preferences without
going to the Apple menu. Just
Option-click on one of the volume or
brightness (F14 & F15) keys. And yes,
even though they aren’t marked as such,
F14 will lower the brightness setting, while
F15 will increase the brightness.
OS X Startup Shortcuts
As your computer starts up, there
are key combinations you can use to your
advantage. Among them are the following:
Press X: Force OS X to startup instead
of OS 9
Press C: Startup from a CD or DVD
Press Option-Command-Shift-Delete:
Bypass your primary startup volume and
startup from a CD or external drive.
Press T: Startup the computer in FireWire
Target Disk mode
Press Shift: Startup in Safe Boot mode,
which disables non-essential extensions.
Press Option: Calls up the Startup Manager, allowing you to choose a different
startup disk.
Backups are essential if you want to
stay productive. You never know when
disaster will strike, and a current backup
will keep you up and running. While some
with towers like to rely on a second internal drive, I have always preferred external drives. First, I’ve seen power supply
problems burn out internal drives. Second,
an external backup can be used on a different computer if necessary. Whatever
your choice, a good place to start looking for that drive is on http://dealmac.
com. This is one site that I check on a
daily basis. You never know what you
will find.
While I have a single backup drive
for my iBook, my iMac has two external
drives. One is a bootable mirror that I
update once every week or so. I only
turn it on when I want to do a backup.
The second one is always on, and I have
software set to automatically backup my
main identity folder and my main documents folder on a daily basis. If I’m working on something critical, I backup my
documents folder more frequently. This
is not a mirrored drive. Files are added,
but never deleted. If I trash a file after a
backup and decide a month from now
that I really need that file, it’s still on that
external drive. A second drive should
be considered cheap insurance. You may
never need to use it, but if the day comes
that you do, you’ll be happy you have it.
I recently sold my eMac and moved
up to a G5 iMac, but as it turned out,
I had only my iBook for a couple of
weeks between the two events. Before
the eMac left, I did a mirror backup of
it. I was able to boot my iBook from
that backup and have full access to the
software, files, graphics and fonts I use to
produce a monthly newsletter. I was also
able to access all of my husband’s business files that I don’t keep on the iBook.
When the iMac arrived, I was able to just
connect the drive, and the new Setup
Assistant software transferred my applications, documents and settings just as
if it was transferring from one computer
to another. Very neat! I was back online
and fully functioning in no time. This was
the fastest and easiest computer upgrade
I’ve ever experienced. I’ve only run into
two or three apps that asked for serial
numbers.
Photoshop Elements 3
If you can’t wait to get your hands
on Adobe’s new Photoshop Elements 3,
you have to check out the website for
the new Photoshop Elements Techniques
magazine, another Scott Kelby gem. The
site has training videos and other goodies.
Check it out at http://www.photoshopelementsuser.com/ and don’t forget
to bookmark it for future reference. This
looks like it’s going to be a great site. Elements 3 looks like it has some really terrific
new features.
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