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Jack Spirko
Ducks for Fun, Proﬁt and Land Development
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The Two most Important Definitions a Business Owner
Can Know
•  Marketing - exposure to a belief
•  Sales – transfer of belief
These are what we call, absolute definitions, commit
them to memory.
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The Layout of our Farmstead
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Why Ducks?
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•  Trainable,” herdable”, they cooperate
•  Soft on the land compared to scratchers
•  Premium niche egg product
•  Premium niche meat product
•  Good at foraging
•  Highly self sufficient
•  They make good friends and co workers
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Breeds for Considera:on
•  Egg Production
o  Metzer 300s (white or gold) 200-290 EPY
o  Khaki Campbell 165-210 EPY
o  Welsh Harlequin – 150-200 EPY
o  Runners – 100-180 EPY but high feed conversion and highly mobile
•  Meat Production
o  Jumbo Pekin
§  56 Days to Slaughter
§  10.25 avg live weight
§  6.3lb avg carcass weight
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Dual Purpose (This is for Homesteaders not Profit)
§  Welsh Harlequin
§  Silver Appleyard
§  Rouen
§  Cayuga (Slow Food USA Ark of Taste)
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Breeds
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Why I Focus on Eggs – Numbers!
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•  No need to slaughter with even and daily production
•  8 dollars a dozen a duck lays 240 EOY or 480 dollars over 3.5 years on 108 dollars of food
•  After that I still have a “meat duck” that makes awesome sausage
•  Sausage – 2lbs of duck (meat, heart, liver) and (2 lbs of pork 6 bucks), 25 cents in spices
•  Sausage sells for 12 dollars a pound, so you make 48 dollars’ worth for 6 bucks and
change including spices profit is 41.75.
•  A 5 pound duck carcass sells for about 25-35 dollars feed cost will be 7.20 and you have to
process it as a plucked bird to get that, if you are lucky.
•  My birds make me 372 dollars in egg profit plus 41 dollars in sausage, for a total of 413
dollars, why would I sell such a bird for 25 – 35 bucks?
•  30 Cull Birds, 90 dollars of pork and 6 bucks in spices make $1440 of sausage
•  Even with 3 years at high production a duck starts with 1500 ovum and has 780 still in the
bank, a chicken starts with only 1,000.
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Basics of Managing a Laying Flock
•  A Holding Area – wood chip mulch –NO STAW!
•  A Shelter – don’t get to fancy
•  A Watering Solution
•  Feeders
•  Control of Movement/Grazing
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Daily Rou:ne – Morning
•  Let birds into paddock about 830-900 AM (most laying is done)
•  Feed Breakfast Sprouts
•  Service waterers and pick up eggs
•  Dump water tubs in paddock, move and refill
•  Clean and package eggs
•  Start soaking next sprout batch, flush and restack sprouts
•  Done for the morning
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Daily Rou:ne – Evening
•  Fill waterers in holding area
•  Fill feeders (1 quarter pound, per duck, per day)
•  All ducks go to bed
•  Done until morning
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A Few Odds and Ends
•  Our feed ration is based on good forage
•  If feeders are empty in the AM we put out some feed, after they leave
•  If feeders still have feed in them by evening we reduce rations
•  When feeders are full of small crumbs we mix them into the fresh feed
•  We are too kind to drakes and it does hurt our profit
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Cohorts - Muscovy Ducks
•  For us they lay mostly from Jan –June
•  Lay heavy during that time, very little the rest of the year
•  But will produce 150ish eggs in that span, bursty production
•  Best Uses
•  Meat culls
•  Incubators-Brooders-Mothers
•  Live Bird Sales – Females go for 20 dollars a piece
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Cohorts – Geese
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•  Reared with ducklings they will imprint on them
•  One pair make great flock guardians
•  Break up excessive breeding by drakes
•  When broody you MUST separate them from ducks
•  Produce 60 eggs a year that sell for a dollar a piece
•  Get to 11 pounds in 11 weeks on mostly grass
•  Bluntly they can be assholes
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Cohorts – Dogs
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•  If well trained and disciplined they are the best fried a bird can have
•  Electronic Training Collar – fast, effective, not cruel “Dogtra”
•  bit.ly/k9control
•  Can be used to move ducks, deal with the non-compliant disruptors
•  Make predators a non-issue, even hawks tend to shy away
•  A dog is as good as his human leads him to be
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Predators
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•  For us it has only once been an issue
•  On paddock I recommend a LSGD if you need it
•  Hot wire around holding area should keep out everything else
•  Rats can be an issue – bucket of sunflower seed in water
•  Snakes can also be an issue with ducklings
•  A Muscovy duck will generally be able to fight off either
•  I have seen a goose throw a rat like a toy doll
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Our Rules for Cleaning Eggs
•  If it looks good we do nothing
•  If it looks dirty we wash with warm water
•  We do not coat with oil
•  We advise customers to wash right before cracking open eggs
•  This has resulted in the smallest educational curve for our customers
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Fencing
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•  3 Foot Fencing is sufficient for paddocks 5 feet for holding areas
•  We run 3 paddocks, average size one acre
•  Mostly on two for now with good results
•  Muscovies can fly, clip wings
•  You must fence in annual gardens, pools, etc.
•  They can be hard on some land, compaction, beak holes etc.
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Land Recovery and Management
•  Move bathing pools daily
•  Utilize swales for dumping if you have them
•  Cover crop and reseeding
•  In cool weather you can seed annual rye before moving birds
•  They eat almost anything that is a grain
•  Nitrocoated legumes are generally not eaten
•  Brome grass seed is generally not eaten
•  When an area is taken to dirt, get something fast growing there asap
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Training
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•  Start training young
•  Use a command or a whistle “all ducks go to bed”
•  Feed goodies in the am as soon as they come out
•  Always have full feeders and clean water at bed time
•  Be strict – Broom of Doom!
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Be Santa – Not the Fairy Godmother
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Marke:ng and Sales
Have a good website and look professional
•  NineMile.Farm
•  866-821-FARM - (kall8.com)
•  Pictures
•  Blog Posts – recipes, pictures, fun stuff
•  Email List – powered by blog rss feed
•  Ease of Contact
•  Train Your Customer to Buy From You
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Our Craigslist Ad
We sell eggs from free range ducks. Our bird's diet is made up of free range forage and Texas
Naturals feed which is a soy free, non GMO certified feed.
We produce the finest product around. Our birds again are fed a premium feed, they are also free
ranged on 3 paddocks on a weekly rotation, so they always have access to open spaces and can
feed on pasture and insects which are an important part of their natural diet.
Each morning they are also fed sprouted sunflower seeds which is a super food and does amazing
things for their heath and the quality of our eggs. We have numerous customers that drive over an
hour just to get our eggs.
There might be cheaper eggs on CL but if you want the best quality and product from animals that
are cared for at the highest level, give us a shot. One chef who uses our eggs stated recently, "in 16
years of professional cooking, I have never even seen an egg of this quality", yes they are that good.
We sell our eggs for 8 dollars a dozen.
Stop eating flavorless watery eggs from the supermarket and give real free range healthy eggs a try.
Learn more at http://www.ninemile.farm/
To see how spoiled our ducks really are, how we raise them by hand from babies and make sure
they are always happy and healthy check out our youtube series called http://
www.duckchronicles.com
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A Compe:tor’s Craigslist Ad
DUCK EGGS FRESH FREE RANGE - $8 - for sale we have a dozen fresh free range duck eggs.
call eric
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Primary Value Proposal
•  Duck Eggs - Free Range - Fed No Soy or GMO Feed
•  Birds are Spoiled Rotten – Chamomile Infused Sunflower Sprouts
•  Birds are Allowed to be Birds
•  You and Your Family Can Come See the Birds
•  Thick, beautiful, golden yolks
•  Once you try duck eggs, you will never go back
Very Few Have Even Asked About Organic!
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Actually “Selling” When We Have To
•  We keep a customer waiting list
•  We tell people no when we have to
•  When we have extra eggs, Dorothy calls the list in order
•  In about 10 minutes all surplus is gone
•  Customers actually beg us at times for product, seriously
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How We Do Business
•  All sales are on farm
•  We provide available times for pickup
•  We meet customers at our gate and sell to them, that is all
•  We require them to call when they are on the way
•  We mention the dogs are defenders of the property
•  We do tours when we have time, we request that they ask in advance
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Selling to Restaurants
•  We have done business with two (Ida Claire and Pappa Changs)
•  We will deliver large orders if they are close
•  Ida Clair uses a service to pick up from us and other local providers
•  The best thing is get a chef to visit your site
•  The next best is to have them sample product
•  We can’t take any more restaurants, demand exceeds our capacity
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The Ebb and Flow of Produc:on
•  Birds molt in the summer of their first year over 12 months of age
•  Molting is for 6 weeks
•  During molting egg production goes to almost zero
•  The only way to deal with this is “strategic brooding”
•  Birds lay at 22-24 weeks
•  Molt for us is July – August
•  Birds hatched after Sept/Oct will not molt the next year
•  You just have to work with customers in the low season
•  Supplemental Lights do extend production, go for 14-16 hours of light
•  Do NOT run lights all night long
•  All my numbers are for southern climates, it is what it is
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Lessons You Don’t Have to Learn The Hard Way!
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•  Shade is your friend
•  Ice can be dangerous to ducks
•  Your flock adults should be on 17-18% protein, more is not better
•  Your porch is their porch if you don’t keep them off it
•  If you want them to not mess with something, don’t let them know it exists
•  Muscovies can fly, like really fly, clip those wings
•  You can cure “angel wing” with a horse leg bandage
•  Ducks love routines try to keep them on a schedule
•  Sooner or later predators will find you
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How to Cure Angel Wing
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At Times They Can Even Be Aﬀec:onate
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Links and Resources
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To learn more visit:
www.PermaEthos.com
www.TheSurvivalPodcast.com
www.DuckChronicles.com
www.ninemile.farm
Find Cool Stuff at:
TheSurvivalPodcast.com/permaculture
Social Media:
Facebook- FaceBook.com/survivalpodcast
Twitter - Twitter.com/TheSurvivalPodc
YouTube - YouTube.com/survivalpodcasting
Regen Ag Facebook Group - http://bit.ly/regenag
“You do not have a slug problem, you have a duck deficiency.” ~ Bill
Mollison
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The Power of Duck Poop and Grazing!
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The Power of Duck Poop!
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Jack Spirko
Nine Mile Farm
7190 Nine Mile Bridge Road
Fort Worth, Texas
Contact Us
Your great subGtle in this line
jack@ninemile.farm
866-821-FARM
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