Where We Are - Moulton Baptist Church

Where We Are
Planning for the Future
Proverbs 16:3
“Commit your works to the LORD
And your plans will be established.”
(NASB)
Principles of Growth
80% rule – when a church meets and exceeds
80% occupancy in its facilities, if not quickly
corrected, it will experience limitations to
future growth.
 Worship – seating capacity 250-300 [>300]
Education – need 3-4 new classes, 1 open room
Parking – have 141 & 10 handicap, need 300
SERVICE ATTENDANCE
Morning Services
Night Services
Total Sunday Attendance
600
Number in Attendance
400
300
250
COMFORTABLE SEATING LIMIT
200
100
TORNADO WEEK - NO COUNT TAKEN
500
0
Date of Services
Accessibility
 We want every part of our facilities accessible
to everyone including those with mobility
problems.
 Old building: Top floor & basement inaccessible
to anyone who can not climb stairs
 Limited handicap parking and difficult
accessibility to parts of building
 Some sidewalk other structures are not at
recommended grades for wheel chairs
Safety
 Need to bring existing structures up to code
for fire, safety, and security.
 Fire alarm system only in newest part of building
[none in old building, middle, Delashaw]
 Are up to code on fire extinguisher placements
Security system in Delashaw house, some what in
new building no where else
Space trade off
 Basement presently is badly in need of
renovation before it is unusable.
 Estimates: $750,000
New Need
 Gym/Family Life building: increase
educational space, Upward sports, Awana
recreation, church wide recreation, special
events
Question???
 Do we want to continue to grow in all areas of
our church???
 Are we willing to boldly plan for the future???
What if we stay here…
LAND CURRENTLY
OWNED BY MBC
PRESPECTIVE
PROPERTY TO
PURCHASE
BLOCK PRICE
$74,450
BLOCK
PRICE
$395,000
BLOCK PRICE
$360,330
BLOCK PRICE
$225,570
BLOCK PRICE
$92,730
BLOCK PRICE
$289,250
CONCEPT DRAWING
EXISTING PARKING
EX. FACILITY
NEW
PARKING
NEW
PARKING
NEW SANCTUARY
NEW
PARKING
NEW
PARKING
NEW GYMNASIUM
What will it cost to stay…
Basement Renovation
Elevator for existing bldg.
New Gymnasium
New Sanctuary
Renovation of old bldg.
Gordon Property
Remaining Delshaw block
House demo/site prep/paving
$750,000
$700,000
$400,000
$1,500,000
$1,000,000
$395,000
$289,250
$300,000
Minimum Cost Estimate
Total cost:
$5,334,250
• No road crossing/bridges
• Current maintenance cost
• Not including items that currently need to be repaired
• Does not include Caraway property or the Carroll block.
Negatives about staying…
 This is an old facility
 You will have to cross a street any way we go
 No certain room for growth
 Limited parking
 High utility cost
 Current/future repairs ($30,000 on AC this year)
 Handicap accessibility (entry & restrooms)
 No room for outdoor activities
 Limited Sunday School space
 Not sure we can procure the surrounding properties
What if we move to the
new land…
SUNDAY SCHOOL ATTENDANCE
GROUP
CURRENT
AVERAGE
1991 CAPACITY
STUDY
RECOMMENDATION
MIN. CAPACITY
PRESCHOOLERS
34
65
50
CHILDREN
30
67
60
YOUTH
30
125
55
ADULT
173
118
200
TOTAL
267
375
365
SPACE RECOMMENDATIONS
AREA
EXISTING S.F.
CAPACITY
RECOMMENDATION
MIN. S.F. CAPACITY
25 Classrooms
(12,181)
32 Classrooms
(8,000)
1,480
1,700
LIBRARY
553
650
KITCHEN
648
650
3,045
6,000
715
500
CIRCULATION/RESTROOMS
6,064
3,237
SANCTUARY
3,460
7,500
GYMNASIUM
0
10,000
28,236
38,237
SUNDAY SCHOOL
OFFICE SPACE
FELLOWSHIP HALL
MECHANICAL
TOTALS
CONCEPT DRAWING
Parking
Parking
Soccer
Fields
New
Building
Parking
Future
Expansion
Dodge Report Projects
Project Type
Name
# of
flrs.
Sq. Ft.
Estimated Cost
($ per Sq. Ft.)
Worship Facility
Kettering Baptist Church - Prince
George’s, MD
3
51,000
$4,999,999
($98.04)
Recr. , Worship
Facility
Bath First Baptist Family Life Center Aiken, SC
1
14,588
$2,000,000
($137.09)
Worship Facility,
Westmoreland Independent Baptist
Site Development Church - Westmoreland, VA
1
9,000
$2,999,999
($333.33)
Worship Facility
(Renov. & add.)
Immanuel Baptist Church - Grant, AR
1
11,000
$1,213,700
($110.34)
Worship Facility
Dothan Alabama Stake New Meeting
House – LDC Church - Pike, AL
1
5,478
$4,999,999
($912.74)
Food/Beverage
Service
Olive Garden Restaurant – Decatur,
AL
1
7,537
$1,200,000
($159.21)
Site
Development,
Landscaping
Trenholm & Patterson Campus –
Montgomery, AL
$1,200,000
Gardendale First Baptist Church
Gardendale, AL
CDH Partners
Project Scope:
Site Development:
Building Space:
Completion Date:
Project Cost:
CPSF:
Worship Facility and
site development
95 Acres
100,095 SF
2010
$24,000,000
$239.77
Dalton First Baptist Church
Dalton, GA
TurnerBatson Architects
Completion Date:
Project Budget:
Seating Capacity:
2008
$15,000,000
Sanctuary 900, Chapel 200
St. James UMC
Montgomery, AL
TurnerBatson Architects
Project Completion: 2008
Project Budget:
$9,100,000
Annunciation of the Lord
Catholic Campus
Decatur, AL
Davis Architects
Project Scope:
Building I :
Building II:
Completion Date:
Project Cost:
School Facility
Sanctuary, Fellowship Area,
Kitchen, Office and Nursery
2003
$6,400,000
East Cullman Church of Christ
Cullman, AL
Fuqua & Partners Architects
Scope of Project:
Completion Date:
Project Cost:
Sanctuary, Classrooms, Kitchen,
Gymnasium and Fellowship Area
2006
$4,704,074
ClearBranch UMC
Argo, AL
TurnerBatson Architects
Project Scope:
Sanctuary, Grand Hall, Chapel, renovation
of existing education space, new
classrooms and admin. offices
Seating Space:
Sanctuary 1,500
Building Space:
55,000 SF
Site Space:
32 Acres
Project Completion: 2002
Project Budget:
$5,100,000
CPSF:
$92.73
Decatur Baptist Church
Decatur, AL
SKT Architects
Project Size:
Completion Date:
Construction Cost:
CPSF:
45,000 SF
2004
$5,000,000
$111.11
Trinity UMC
Huntsville, AL
SKT Architects
Project Size:
22,000 SF
Completion Date: 2002
Construction Cost: $2,750,000
CPSF:
$125.00
Bethlehem West Missionary Baptist Church
Vinemont, AL
Fuqua & Partners Architects
Scope of Project:
Completion Date:
Project Cost:
Sanctuary & Classrooms
1998
$1,045,088
Minimum Cost Estimate
New structure cost
New Gym cost
Site prep/paving cost
$3,953,180
$400,000
$202,000
Total new facility cost:
$4,555,180
*Cost is estimated at $140 per square foot.
Negatives about going…
Main entrance will be on highway 24
Some will have to drive a little farther
It means we will have to build
Sell the current property
It will be a change…
CONCEPT DRAWING
Parking
Soccer
Fields
Parking
New
Building
Future
Expansion
Parking
NEW
LOCATION
$4,555,180
CONCEPT DRAWING
NEW
PARKING
EX. FACILITY
NEW
PARKING
NEW SANCTUARY
NEW
PARKING
NEW
PARKING
NEW GYMNASIUM
EXISTING
LOCATION
$5,330,000