Year Book - The Laced Wyandotte Club

The Laced Wyandotte
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Year Book 2011
Call 01623 464818 or mobile 07817577864
bantam39@hotmail.com
Panel A Poultry Club Judge
Contributor to National Poultry Magazines
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Secretaries Report
thelaced.wyandotteclub@yahoo.co.uk
01691 780245
Dear Members,
We are on the brink of another Club Show, with our Regional Show not far off too.
I will start with the report on our last Club Show, held at the Federation. I’m sure
that most of you who were due to attend the show must have been watching the
forecast with growing unease, as I was myself. I was due to travel down on the
Saturday morning, leaving around 5am, but on the Thursday we had very heavy
snow, with more forecast for Friday. So I hastily decided to book a Travelodge
room and go down on the Friday afternoon, and thank goodness I did, as the
report from my hubby on Saturday was that my little Focus would never have
made it down the drive, let alone down the small lane to the village!
After the big rush to beat the snow, it was a great relief walking into the hall on
the Friday to see Mark Vaughan putting numbers on the pens, and knowing that
at least two Club members had made it. In all there were many members who did
manage to brave the weather, including our two judges Derek Alsop and Kerry
Wilson, who went on to do an excellent job of judging. Although very
understandable, it was a real shame there were so many empty pens.
I would also like to congratulate Kerry on the excellent job she did of organising
and presenting the cups, which were sparkling. As our now permanent cup
secretary, I’m sure they will always be in safe hands.
There was a presentation to our retiring President Mr Derek Alsop, which was a
superb painting by Judith Allen (a member of the Club) of one of Derek’s past
Silver Laced winners, which was presented to him by Bob Woods. I’m sure I speak
for all the Club members in wishing Derek all the best, and hopefully he will
continue for many more years exhibiting and being a valued senior member of the
Club.
I also have to thank all the members who volunteered to spend time watching the
stand from time to time and to offer an apology to Mr Edward Haden, as I forgot
to thank him in the last Newsletter for watching the stand at the National for at
least two hours whilst I was stewarding. The show did have a quieter feel to it,
with so many exhibitors not able to make it, but overall still a great event as usual
and congratulations to all the winners.
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On a disappointing note, on finding our Club AGM had been moved from the 1pm
slot to 5pm which I was sure most would find too late to stay until. I sent a letter
asking if at all possible that our 2012 AGM at Stafford could be at a more
favourable time. The reply I received back made it clear that this was not going to
happen, and that the best we could hope for was the 5pm slot or to be moved if
another Club cancels, which will be very unlikely. As a Club we will have to decide
if we accept this or finish rotating, and have our AGM at Stoneleigh from now on.
This will be for you, the club members, to decide at the next AGM.
You will most likely be aware after reading this yearbook that it is dominated by
Gold Laced articles; this is firstly the result of the members who have made
contributions to this year book being into Gold Laced, and also a subject that is on
a lot of members’ minds at this time. So if you wish to see more articles on your
chosen colour please send me them to be added to the next publication!
I had been hoping to get a website set up since I started as Club Secretary, but just
did not have time to do one myself, so I was very excited when a new member Gay
Clark rang me out of the blue to offer her services. She told me how she had been at
Tim and Val Moss’s house and that they had mentioned to her that the Club was
looking to find someone to build a website, and as it just so happens she makes
websites for a living! So a big thanks to Gay for all her hard work on the site and
also to Tim and Val for finding her.
Our new website’s address is:
www.lacedwyandotteclub.co.uk
Please have a look and let us know what you all think.
I would also like to thank Steve Dace for finding us more than 10 new
members though his bird sales. Knowing him to be a car dealer, I’m sure
they didn’t stand a chance of saying no!
I hope you have all had a productive year, with lots of promising
youngsters. I look forward to meeting you all again at the two main shows .
The AGM will be at the Club show in Stoneleigh on Saturday at 1pm.
Lastly thank you to all the Members that contributed to this Year book.
Collette Roberts
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Our retiring President Mr Derek Alsop receiving his Painting
Derek joined the Club in 1955, which was then called the Gold and Sliver Laced
Wyandotte Club.
From the first he became a very proactive member, showing, judging and writing
articles. We were only a very small Club in those days, but his enthusiasm for the
poultry fancy made him very popular and well known around the shows.
He was first appointed to judge our Club show in 1982, which was the last year
that was held at Bingly Hall in Birmingham.
Derek was far-sighted enough to recognise that we would become a larger and
much stronger Club by incorporating the Blue laced and Buff laced varieties, and
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it was mainly by his instigation that this happened, and we renamed the Club
“The Laced Wyandotte Club” in1982. This has proved to be a huge success with a
great increase in the numbers of members.
By serving on the Poultry Club Council from 1990 to 2003, Derek was able to
represent us and to keep us informed of Poultry Club affairs.
Derek was elected as our President in 1986, and apart from the few years when he
stood down to become Vic President, he has helped steer the Club through the last
25 years, helping to produce the excellent hand book in 1998 and regularly writing
interesting articles in the Newsletters.
His unfailing service to the Club, always on hand in any crisis, his interest in
everyone and his kindness and approachability has meant The Laced Wyandotte
Club has thrived happily.
I know I am speaking for all our members when I say a huge “thank you “for all
he has done for the Club.
Of course we hope he will continue to attend shows and meetings for a good many
more years.
Margo Haines
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Chairman’s Report
I recall our retiring President Derek Alsop saying on more than
one occasion that the Laced Wyandotte Club is the best supported Wyandotte club
there is. I have not heard of anything to the contrary and look forward to
attracting even more members in the future. So a big thanks to Derek for presiding
over our club for many many years and keeping matters on an even keel. I must
also thank Steve Dace here who has recruited quite a few new members for us via
his commercial connections.
We have much to do and are working on several fronts with our new and talented
Secretary. Collette Roberts has joined myself as Joint Treasurer after her excellent
bedding in period as Honorary Secretary, and it is much easier for her now as she
receives the subscriptions etc herself, which saves correspondence ‘flying about’
between the two of us.
We need to address the dearth of information on our breed (apart from Silver
Laced) in the Standards Book. For example, a future judge of our Club Show
phoned the secretary to exclaim, “There is nothing in the Standards Book on a
certain colour I am judging.” Extrapolation from the Silver Laced to apply to
other colours is just not a credible option. I am working on Blue Laced and Buff
Laced to submit at the AGM for discussion. So any member who hopefully wants
to be involved with the two colours mentioned, please give me a ring on 01623 464
818. For texting purposes etc, my mobile number is 07817 577 864.
The most work is needed on the Gold Laced, and I know some members have
become frustrated by the Club not really defining what colour is required in the
changing modern world. With that in mind, watch this space at the AGM where
hopefully we will have a more positive outcome this year to help members.
Gaynor Day is beavering away on our website for the club. We have purchased the
domain name now (I don’t know really much about that side of things, but don’t
tell anyone, lol!) so please visit the website and have a look at how far we
(Gaynor!) have progressed so far. Gaynor’s email is gaynor_day@hotmail.com
should you wish to enquire about anything on the website.
Collette is working hard on the yearbook and we are grateful to Andrew
Richardson (Orpington Breed Secretary) for putting us in touch with a (hopefully)
excellent printer, at reasonable remuneration exchange. With spiralling food costs
and the time it takes to rear birds etc, I suspect that most of us are keeping a close
watch on prices. I find it difficult as honestly I am addicted to breeding. It can and
has become an obsession, and those close to me know that is true. Thank goodness
for the Colin Mitchells, Keith Thackers and Kerry Wilsons of the breeding world
who can turn out larger numbers than most and do it without incurring the ‘black
dog’.
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The old chestnut again of supporting regional Shows: Have a word with your local
Show Secretary and see what classes they can put on for you - and more
importantly that you can support them - so showing our breed potentially to a
wider audience.
Just been reading a comment from the very experienced fancier and judge Brian
Anderton and in his “Orpington” Chairman comments he wonders whether the
internet is going to threaten our yearbooks, amongst other things, with fanciers
freely exchanging views on all the social networking sites, resulting perhaps in even
fewer (if that is possible) poultry personnel putting pen to paper. I know our
secretary gets frustrated (and I don’t blame her) with fanciers (the most
frustrating being those who are not even club members) who pontificate on these
networking sites but won’t go through the official channels of the AGM and
putting their thoughts on paper. Sometimes with their misplaced ‘hot air’ they
have the potential to misguide (to put it politely) new and innocent members of
our club or those who may have joined but been put off by idle inaccurate chit
chat. I am not against free chat - the internet or social networking - but remember
there is ‘a time and a place’.
By the time the yearbook comes out we will hopefully have a better idea if we have
bred any ‘good uns’ - I have been lucky this year, apart from the usual Gold Laced
and Buff Laced ‘culls’, and I have finished up with 24 bantam Blue Laced pullets
and just half a dozen cockerels. Email me at bantam39@hotmail.com if you have
any suggestions, queries or ideas to promote our club. See you around the pens!
Richard A. Rowley
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Tim Moss
My first Bantams were given to me by my grandfather when I was 6 years old. He
bred and exhibited rabbits, but always had a few bantams of uncertain breeding
around the garden. He then acquired some Silver Laced Wyandotte bantams. This
was my first sighting of them, and it was love at first sight. He never bred from
them, and upon his death when I was 12 years old I inherited them, but they died
soon after.
My own breeding was mainly producing bantams of no definable origins, although
I did try the occasional pure breed, but they never seemed to do very well. It was
not until 1974 that two things happened that were to change everything, and start
my journey into purebred poultry breeding: Firstly, I joined the Poultry Club and
received a Year Book complete with breeders’ lists. Secondly, I got engaged.
For Val’s birthday present I bought her a trio of Silver Laced Wyandotte
bantams. (She has since had Marans, peafowl, pygmy goats and puppies!) After
two or three years we decided to obtain some exhibition quality Laced. So we
contacted Tom Chapple. When we went to see him, we took some of our young
birds with us and asked his opinion. He said the best thing to do with them was to
add them to potatoes and peas!
We had him choose us a trio, and we took them home. This was the start of a long
association with Tom, up until his death. When the mood took him, he would talk
to us all day long, sharing a lot of knowledge about several different breeds, but on
other days we would get a curt ‘Hello’ and off he’d go. Ever since then we have
bred and exhibited Silver bantams, also trying large Silvers at one point, but due
to keeping too many things, soon let them go.
My other main breed until 12 years ago was Marans bantams. I was an active
member of their Club, holding most posts, including Secretary. Val was involved
with Buff Rock bantams. Having moved house twice, and each time bringing all
the birds and their housing with us, we decided for various reasons to part with the
Marans and later the Buff Rocks. At this time we concentrated all our efforts on
the Silver Laced, Silver Dutch, and one other breed which tends to change every so
often.
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At this point I would like to perhaps explain how our partnership works. I attend
to the breeding and decide mainly on the plan. Val is in charge of show preparation
and presentation. Where the problems start is when we come to choose the
breeding and show stock. As we go for slightly different types, it can be the cause
of some heated exchanges! This is the reason we exhibit three pullets in a class at
most shows, because usually we both agree on one bird, and then each of us gets to
put their own choice of best bird in too.
Val has always been involved with dogs, and breeds, shows and does heelwork to
music with border collies. Val also breeds Silver Dutch bantams, and I have Gold
Laced Wyandottes.
I acquired the Gold Laced about six years ago, thinking they needed to be brought
to the fore a bit more, as they were rarely seen at shows. People tell of many rare
breeds and colours that they don’t show, because there is no competition. My
answer to that is this: If people don’t see them, they won’t want them! I know that
since we have kept the Golds, several people who have come to us for Silvers have
ended up taking both. The present argument about the shade of gold isn’t helping,
but will probably run on until something more interesting comes up to argue
about.
Our breeding flock is usually made up of two pens, mated to produce exhibition
birds, and one pen to produce a certain type of bird that may not be of show type
itself, but may be needed in the future. For example, if I think the birds are getting
too heavily laced, I will produce some birds that are finer laced. All eggs are
hatched in an incubator, and then the chicks put on grass at five weeks old. They
stay out on grass till they are brought in to be pen trained.
Our main show has to be the National Championship show. I attended my first one
the last time it was held at Alexander Palace, and have not missed one since. It
still holds a certain excitement for me that the Federation show cannot match.
Of all the poultry people that I admire past and present, the two that come to
mind are a gentleman by the name of Jack George, who few if any of you will have
heard of. I didn’t meet him until he was in his late 60’s and he was a true
gentleman. The worst he would ever say about anybody was that they were ‘a bit
of rouge!’ He never ran anyone down, and was willing to help anyone. He was a
pleasure to know, and I still miss him.The other person is Geoff Parker of
Wyandotte and Rock fame, who despite his many achievements in poultry is still
as humble as when I first met him 30 years ago. We fondly refer to him as the mad
professor, and he would probably agree with that description.
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All the other people I admire are the Secretaries, of both Clubs and Shows, who
give up their time so we can enjoy our hobby.
Our greatest achievement? Val’s has got to be getting Best Soft Feather bantam at
the National with a Buff Rock bantam cockerel. (I like to think I played a small
part in it!) But I think what we’re really proud of is to see the numbers grow in
Silver Laced classes, from 6/8 birds 30 years ago, to the 40/50 we have now, and to
know that a lot of these birds stem from our blood lines. Also to see success enjoyed
by people at shows, whom we have given advice to.
To any of you who have managed to read this to the end, (He always has waffled
on – Val.) may we wish you a long and happy association with the breed. They will
drive you to the brink of despair at times, but when it all comes together; there can
be few more rewarding sights than a truly excellent Silver Laced. (I freely admit
I’m prejudiced!)
Tim Moss
Minutes of the Laced Wyandotte Club AGM
Held on Saturday 18th December 2010
At the Federation Championship Show
Present:
Steven Dace
Ken Leggett
R. A. Rowley
John Winter
Collette Roberts Kerry Wilson
Paul Fox
Apologies: Tim Moss, Val Moss, Derek Alsop
Chairman's Report:
Thanked everyone for coming, as the meeting was later then the club
wished. Then went on to explain why Peter Ward decided not to carry on
with the position of Secretary and how Collette Roberts got offered the
position of Acting Secretary.
If to carry on rotating the Club and Regional show between The National
and Federation shows, Bob Woods wished for the rotation to continue.
Thanked Kerry Wilson for all the work she has put in being Acting Cup
Secretary and that the cups had never looked so clean.
Richard Rowley and Collette Roberts are to sort out if Richard is going to
continue as Treasurer or Collette is going to take it on from now on.
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Treasurer’s report:
There was £1600 in the Club’s account at the start of the year.
Expenses: £419 as follows: Newsletter - £100 including postage, Federation
Aff & judges lunches - £34, PCGB Aff & lunches - £32, Kerry Wilson - £20
for expenses towards cup secretary, leaving the painting - £165, expenses to
Peter Ward - £40 for Acting Secretary and rosettes for Club Show - £28.
Income: Subscriptions - £329
Closing Balance: £1510
Minutes of the 2009 AGM: minutes read out by the secretary and signed as
correct.
Secretary's report:
Thanked everyone for their support on becoming acting secretary. Stated
the Club’s membership was at 125 members, with 10 new members joining
in the last few weeks and 5 joining at the show on that day.
Stated the National show was a great success, with 46 large and 83
bantams entered, and the vast majority penned. Also said it was great to be
asked to steward for Mark Vaughn and found it to be a great learning
curve.
Thanked all the judges of the two shows and was sure all agreed had done a
fantastic job of judging.
Lastly wished everyone a Happy Christmas and New Year.
Election of Officers:
Secretary Collette Roberts - proposed by R. A. Rowley and seconded by
Ken Leggett.
Cup Secretary Kerry Wilson - proposed by R. A. Rowley and seconded by
Bob Woods.
All others to remain as before.
Regional Show 2011:
To be held at the Federation Show Stafford
Judges: Tim Moss - Silver/Gold
R. A. Rowley - Blue/Buff
Club Show 2011:
To be held at the National Show Stoneleigh
Judges: Bob Woods - Silver/Gold
A. Brooker - Blue/Buff
A.B.O.
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Steve Dace wished for extra Classes for Silver Laced pullet breeders, others
in meeting did not object, but Richard Rowley wished to discuss with
senior members and other committee members who were not present before
making a decision.
Gold Laced was discussed, with Bob Woods saying that he felt that the
Gold Laced would be more suited to being one pen mated if all could agree
on the colour to be shown, as this would encourage more to breed and show
them.
We all agreed that a decision on the colour of Gold Laced needs to be sorted
soon for the sake of the breed.
The meeting was closed.
Results of the Club Show
Held at the Federation Championship Show
Judges: Mr Derek Alsop (Gold and Silver), Miss Kerry Wilson (Blue and
Buff)
Judge’s Report on Gold and Silver Laced:
First I would like to say thank you to the Club and its members for once
again giving me the opportunity to judge the Club show; it is an honour for
any member to do so.
This is my 55th year of membership to the Club and also my retirement as
your President. For how many years I can not remember I have been a life
member of the Club, so I will still of course take a keen interest in the
affairs of the Club, which is the oldest Wyandotte Club.
I would like to say a personal thanks to the Club and particularly to
Richard Rowley, for arranging the portrait of my Club show winner and
champion, which was presented to me by Bob Woods at the Club stand
during the presentation of trophies. It now has a prominent position on my
lounge wall.
As my driver had to leave early I was unable to give my personal thanks,
and for the same reason I was unable to give the details of all the birds, so I
have contained myself to more general remarks. I would also like to add
how well Kerry Wilson carried out her duties as a club judge for the first
time.
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The Club Stand was one of the best ever. Great credit goes to our new
Secretary Collette for all her hard work, and the Club cups have never
sparkled like that before. It was just a great shame that the snow
prevented so many members and their birds from attending.
Now for the birds: What a great entry of large Silvers and Golds. The
wonderful turnout was the best for many years, just a pity there were so
many empty pens in both large and bantams, but the entry of 18 large
Silver females was the largest for many years and Bob Woods was
delighted to see 10 Gold females entered.
Best Large Gold laced Male
Best Large
Silver Male
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Large Gold Laced Male
st
1 C. Roberts
nd
2
S. Dace
rd
3 S. Dace
th
4
R.R Woods
Large Gold Laced Female
st
1
C. Roberts
nd
C. Roberts
rd
S. Dace
2
3
th
4
st
A.L Dickinson
nd
S. Dace
rd
S. Dace
2
3
8 Entries and a full class
All the birds were of a good size ,there
was some variation in the ground colour
and I chose the best laced and type as
the winner, but a good class for numbers
,all were of a good type.
S. Dace
Large Silver Laced Male
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Judges Comments
7 Entries
The winner was by far the best bird with
a good bright top colour and ground
colour of the breast feathers and a good
size, as were the others which were to
dark for me
7 Entries only 4 penned.
All of a similar appearance, good size but
all failed on lack of silver back and wing
bars.
th
4 M. Vaughan
Large Silver Laced Female
st
1
S. Dace – Club Show Champ
nd
S & J Dace
rd
A.L Dickinson
2
3
th
4 S & J Dace
This would have been a really good class
if all the birds had been present, however
I thought that those that did arrive were
very good. I thought that they were
better type than the bantams. Mr Dace’s
hen won and went on to be club show
champion, a worthy winner and for him
two years on the run.
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Bantam Gold Laced Male
st
1
W. D Moon – Res Champ
Bantam Gold Laced
Female
st
1
B. Leigh
nd
T&V Moss
rd
T&V Moss
th
S. Matthews
2
3
4
Bantam Silver Laced Male
st
1
I & J Brewis
nd
P.E Gooding
rd
J. Tacey
th
T&V Moss
2
3
4
Bantam silver Laced Hen
st
1 A. Bunn
nd
J. Tacey
rd
R. Heath
2
3
th
4 I & J Brewis
Comments
4 Entries with only one penned, however
I found a bird that was almost what a
cock breeding bird should look like. In
excellent condition, could have had a
little clearer lacing but the ground colour
was spot on.
I liked this bird and we agreed it should
be the best other sex
7 entries
Nice to see 7 entries of females, a
mixture of ground colour, the winner
was the best of them, with I thought the
best type, some lacing on darker birds
was very broken.
12 entries of which only 4 were penned
All of these did not have the required
silver back and wing bars. The best laced
cock was first; I would of like to have
seen the rest of the class penned.
7 Entries only 4 penned
I was aware of some split breasts here
and after judging the pullets thought
that some of the hens were better,
perhaps it was the long cold spell that
prevented the hens from completing
their moult which kept the numbers
down.
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Bantam Silver Laced
Pullet
st
A. Bunn
nd
J. Day
rd
T & V Moss
1
2
3
th
4 R. Heath
With 30 entries and with the best pens
for judging what a wonderful display
this would have been, however there
were many empty pens which did spoil
the display, but this was the class that in
previous years had provided the judge
with the most difficult problems.
At first glance I thought I was in for a
difficult time but on going through them
the first time found many with split
breasts, many with to some feathering,
particularly on the breast. Some birds
breast lacing exhibited a lackness in the
density of the lacing. There seems to be a
lacking in the proper type with a lack of
depth and too prominent tail feathers.
However I did find four that I thought
were the best and the one that one was
just better than the rest.
Best Gold
Bantam
Female
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Best Silver Bantam Female
I was looking forward to judging this Club show, and with such a good
entry even more so, so it was with some disappointment that there were so
many empty pens, due to the bad weather, however I did enjoy judging
your birds, but would like to caution all breeders of Silvers, do watch this
split breast feather, please do not use a cockerel to breed with if it has this
fault, for it will take you years to get rid. Try and breed cocks with the
required silver backs and wing bars.
In general all birds were shown in excellent condition and Margo Haynes
would have been delighted to have seen such a good entry of large silver
hens. My best wishes to all our members and to the older ones, thank you
for your friendship for all these years.
Derek Alsop
Judges Report on the Blue and Buff Laced
As a relative newcomer to the Laced Wyandotte Club it was a great honour
and compliment to be asked at the 2009 AGM if I would judge the Blue and
Buff Laced classes at the 2010 Club show at Stafford. After the initial
shock I started looking forward to the event enormously! How wonderful
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to have the opportunity to examine closely birds from some of the
country’s best breeders and exhibitors. It was a responsibility to be taken
very seriously though when you consider that most breeders spend the
previous year making up breeding pens and carefully nurturing the
resulting youngsters with the goal of winning at the Club Show.
As the day drew nearer the terrible weather looked like it was going to
jeopardise the event. I was extremely concerned that I might not be able
to make the journey but as Judge and Trophy Secretary it was essential I
should get there whatever it took!!
On the day sadly quite a number of exhibitors were unable to get to the
show due to road conditions etc but our journey was luckily without too
much drama. So after meeting up with my friend Paula Wilde who was to
be steward I set about the task of judging.
I started with the Large Fowl. First a class of 4 Blue Laced males. It
seemed to be that a general area for need of improvement from the males I
saw, both Large and Bantam, is their front- the majority are rather ‘cut
away’ there. The LF possibly have the excuse that they need more time to
mature but not the bantams.
All in all I had a very enjoyable time judging and hope those that took the trouble
to put their birds before me were, on the whole, satisfied with the results! Thank
you!
Kerry Wilson
Best Large Blue Laced Female
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Best Large Buff Laced male
Large blue Laced Male
st
1 S. & J. Dace
nd
2
S. & J. Dace
rd
3 C. Roberts
th
4 S.& J. Dace
Judges Comments
1st Had the best ground colour and good
lacing although a bit shaded, ok type,
good leg colour.
2nd rather immature and long legged,
rather heavy lacing, excellent leg colour,
nice comb.
3rd Good lacing but ground colour a bit
orange. Rather cut away front. High
leader. 4th Best type great pity he had a
wry tail. Neck/saddle hackles not
matching and round comb leader
Large Blue Laced Female
st
C. Roberts
nd
S. & J. Dace
rd
C. Roberts
th
S. & J. Dace
1
2
3
4
Then a good class of 6 Blue Laced
females- 1st had good type, ground colour
good and even, good neck striping but
needed more lacing on thigh. 2nd Nice
type, bit too much white in earlobes,
good condition. 3rd bit uneven colour and
comb leader high. 4th Nicely marked
neck, another with white in lobes.
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Large Buff Laced Male
st
1
nd
2
S. & J. Dace
S. & J. Dace
Large Buff Laced Female
st
1 S. & J. Dace
nd
S. & J. Dace
rd
S. & J. Dace
2
3
Bantam Blue Laced Male
st
1 M. Vaughan
nd
M. Vaughan
rd
M. Vaughan
th
R.A Rowley
2
3
4
The Buff Laced male class only numbered
two but my winner was a very striking
bird of exceptional type. He was nicely
laced but had rather uneven colour. 2 nd
bird was huge and leggy, probably needs
more time.
Of the 3 Buff Laced Females, I placed 1st
a lovely big and typey bird, her ground
colour could have been more even but her
lacing and neck striping were good, 2nd
was a hen with very nice type, size and
markings but sadly another that had a
slightly crooked tail, 3rd was lacking
condition and feather although another
of very good type
. Starting with a good sized class of 9
Blue Laced males. The first three places I
put up birds of similar type, a little
bigger than some of the others in the class
but they had better type and colour,
especially nice dark even ground colour,
well worked combs, but they had rather
pale legs I allowed this as they were older
birds. 1st won over the 2nd and 3rd on type.
4th was a good colour (feather and legs),
well marked smaller bird but he was a
little light framed and short legged.
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Bantam Blue Laced Hen
st
1
K.J Leggett
nd
M. Vaughan
rd
M. Vaughan
2
3
th
4 E.W Boothman
Bantam Blue Laced Pullet
st
J. Day – Best Novice
nd
R. A Rowley
rd
M. Vaughan
th
K.J Thacker
1
2
3
4
Bantam Buff Laced Male
None Penned
Blue Laced Hens, 4 present, as always
with this slow maturing breed the hens
show better type than the pullets even if
their lacing is often no longer so precise.
1st Was nice colour with clear lacing for a
hen. 2nd A neat hen, again with good
lacing. 3rd Nice even colour and good
wings. 4th Nice colour, but ingrown
leader.
Blue Laced pullets, a lovely class of 15
present, quite difficult to pick the prize
winners, a few discounted for very brown
wing flights, some had solid blue necks ,
some were a little narrow ? But lacing
and feather colour as well as leg colour
generally was very good,
The winning pullet had a presence about
her, she was in lovely condition, very
good dark ground colour and lovely neat
lacing, good neck marking. 2nd was a
pullet with beautiful clear pale blue
lacing but neck not quite as good as 1st.
3rd another good coloured/marked pullet,
little lacking in pen training! 4th was a
super typy pullet with good colour. she
had best type in class, but let down by
presentation
It was very disappointing that most the
Buff Laced Bantam pens were empty,
neither of the two males entered were
present
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Bantam Buff Laced Female
st
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K. Thacker
W. Pearson
Only two of 7 females. These two females
had good colour and lacing and both had
nicely marked necks but they both also had
greyish heads indicating they had Blue
Laced ancestry. It would have been nice to
have been able to judge some good sized
classes of Buff Laced, it is surprising that
they are not more popular
Best Bantam
Blue Laced
Male
Best Bantam
Buff Laced
Female
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Gold Bantams
It is unlikely that anyone particularly admires very
dark gold hens. They are after all dark brown and not
gold at all, and do not have the glowing rich colours
that shines in the sunlight.
Yet the show pens rarely display any other shade.
This has always been so, even right back to the 1940s
and earlier when we only had large Wyandottes.
Whereas Gold males were popular and plentiful and very colourful, the
female show birds became darker, fewer and very inbred until the large
ones died out altogether.
Since there has been much controversy lately regarding the Golds, many
people must be baffled about how we got into this situation.
There is nothing wrong with the wording of the Breed Standard which
stipulates that Golds, both male and female, should be “RICH GOLDEN
BAY,” (bay being another word for brown).
The reason this has happened lies in fashion, and the judging of Gold hens.
The lighter birds tend to show a pale shaft up the centre of each feather,
and this has always been heavily penalised.
Also as hens became darker, the tails and black lacing showed intense
beetle green which was considered desirable, never mind that they often
had heavy black neck hackles, a fault which was usually overlooked.
With the introduction of fresh blood into the bantam, the type has
improved immensely in the dark strains, and there seems to be a renewed
interest in improving the Golds generally. However let us hope that the
beautiful bright golden colouring is not allowed to die out.
Margo Haines
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General characteristics: Male
Carriage: Graceful, well balanced, alert and active, but docile.
Type: Body short and deep with well rounded sides. Back broad and short with full
and broad saddle rising with a concave sweep to the tail. Breast full, broad and
round with a straight keel bone. Wings of medium size, nicely folded to the side.
Tail medium size but full and spread at the base, the main feathers carried rather
upright, the sickles of medium length.
Head: Short and broad. Beak stout and well curved. Eyes intelligent and
prominent. Comb rose, firmly and evenly set on head, medium in height and
width, low, and square at front, gradually tapering towards the back and
terminating in a well defined spike [ or leader] which should follow the curve of the
neck without any upward tendency.
The top should be oval and covered with small and rounded points; the side outline
being convex to conform to the shape of the skull. Face smooth and fine in texture.
Ear-lobes oblong, wattles medium length, fine in texture.
Neck: Of medium length, well covered with soft feathers; the fluff fairly close and
silky. Shanks medium in length, strong, well rounded, good quality, and free of
feather or fluff. Toes, four, straight and well spread.
Plumage: Fairly close and silky, not too abundant or fluffy.
Female
The general characteristics are similar to those of the male, allowing for the natural
sexual differences.
Colour
The Silver Laced
Male plumage: Head silvery-white. Neck silvery-white with clear black stripe
through the centre of each feather [white shaft is permissible], free from ticks.
Saddle hackles to match neck. Back silvery-white, free from yellow or straw colour.
Shoulder tip white laced with black. Wing bow silvery- white; wing coverts evenly
laced, forming at least two well defined bars; secondaries black on inner and wide
white strip on outer web, the edge laced with black; primaries or flights black on
inner web and broadly laced white on outer edge. Breast and underparts; the web
white with well defined jet- black lacing, free from double or white outer lacing,
lacing regular from throat to back of thighs, showing green lustre. A shaft may be
found in the laced feathers and is permissible but not undesirable. Undercolour
dark slate. Tail; true tail feathers, sickles and coverts black with green lustre.
Thighs and fluff black-slate with clear lacing round the hocks and outer side of
thighs.
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Female plumage: Head silvery-white. Neck silvery-white with clear black stripe
though the centre of each feather [white shaft is permissible], free from ticks.
Breast and back; undercolour dark slate, web white with regular, well defined jet
black lacing, free from double or outer lacing and showing green lustre. A shaft
may be found in the laced feathers and is permissible but undesirable. Wings same
as back on the broad portion; secondaries and primaries as in the cock. Tail black
showing green lustre, the coverts black with a white centre to each feather. Thighs
and fluff black or dark slate.
The other varieties are identical to the silver laced except for the differences in
ground colours and markings[ i.e. lacing and stripings], and are as follows:
The gold laced
Ground colour rich golden bay; markings black.
The blue laced
Ground colour red-brown; markings clear blue; yellow in male neck hackle is not
acceptable.
The buff laced
Ground colour rich buff; markings white.
Note: In all colours and sexes, regularity of lacing to count above any breadth of
lacing. Brightness and uniformity of ground colour to be considered of more value
then any particular shade.
Birds to be passed over for serious defects as in all colours, and points to be
deducted for lack of presentation.
Serious defects
Feathers on shanks or toes. Permanent white or yellow in ear- lobes, covering more
than one third of the surface. Comb other than rose or flopping or obstructing the
sight. Shanks other than yellow. Any deformity. Slipped wings (which should be
penalised strongly). Eyes not matching or other than bright bay. Conspicuous
peppering on ground colour of laced. Any form of double lacing.
Scale of points for all laced colours
Lacing (including striping) 35
Colour
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Head
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Type
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Condition
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Weights
Large: Cock not less than 4.08kg (9lb); Cockerel not less than 3.62kg (8 lb)
Hen not less than 3.17kg (7lb); pullet not less than 2.72kg (6lb)
Bantam:
Male
not to exceed 1.70kg (3 ¾ lb)
Female not to exceed 1.36kg (3 lb )
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Kerry Wilson
Breeder and Exhibitor of
Silver Laced and Blue Laced
Wyandotte Bantams
I also keep-
Wyandotte Bantams in- Buff, Columbian, Barred, Silver Pencilled, Partridge,
White and Lavender,
Old English Game Bantams in- Grey, Brown-Red and Blue Furnace.
Black Australorp Bantams and Ancona Bantams
Telephone: 01582 840219
www.wyandottebantams.weebly.com
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Thoughts on Gold Laced Wyandottes
What a pleasure it was to see a decent line up of these noble birds at Stafford.
Even more pleasurable to me is to see good quality large gold’s in the hands of
young enthusiastic people who will I hope keep them for a lifetime and continue to
exhibit them. Gold bantams are also in good hands and as I have just retired I
intend to swell the ranks in anticipation of the day when my well worn lumbar
spine forces me to give up lugging large Gold’s around (not too soon I hope).
That hardy perennial discussion came up yet again at the club meeting, namely
the correct colour of gold exhibition males and females. There is the opinion ,long
held by some ,that an exhibition gold cock should be a very light ,bright shade of
gold and that exhibition females should be a much darker gold. Implied in this
opinion is the absolute necessity of double mating: in effect making two breeds for
a breeder to choose from. Shall I breed cockerels or pullets or shall I maintain one
or more breeding pens of both?
You may not want to do this and you may reach for the breed standard to try and
resolve the issue. There you will find that the correct ground colour of a gold laced
Wyandotte is a rich golden bay. This is where the problem of interpretation comes
in allowing some judges to insist on the different shades alluded to above for males
and females. It is my belief that insistence on different ground colours for males
and females is harmful to the breed and I hold up the plight of the exhibition male
silver laced Wyandotte as an example of what happens if double mating is insisted
on.
Most people like breeding mainly pullets as they don’t fight or crow so keeping a
breed which necessitates the raising of a lot of cockerels to find show winning
examples is not popular. Large silver males are in very few hands now and in silver
bantams a true white shouldered male is seldom seen. I do not want gold laced
males to go down the same road and I therefore breed all my golds without double
mating. Yes I do keep several breeding pens of golds to keep up the genetic health
of the breed but I believe that there should be room for an element of breeder
choice possible in gold laced ground colour. As long as it can be described as rich
golden bay I can accept it and would judge a bird on uniformity ,richness ,lack of
shaftiness and absence of moss,smut or other any other black in the ground colour.
We are not alone in having this argument.
The Australian laced Wyandotte club has obviously had the same discussion and
appear to have reached a similar conclusion to mine.I would exhort gold breeders
to think this through and I look forward to hearing counter arguments. I hope you
have had a good breeding season and look forward to seeing you at the shows. I am
judging at the National and exhibiting at the Federation
Bob Woods
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NEW MEMBERS LIST March - December 2011
A big welcome to all our new members!
K. Arnold
Garthmor Barn, Tyn-Y-Groes, Conway LL32 8TH
G. Clark
31 Main Street, Blackfordby, Derbyshire, DE11 8BB
F. Dace
Deeview, Coleshill, Fechan, Bagillt, Flintshire, CH6 6DH
C. Gibson
Easter Callander, Stirling, Dullater, FK17 8HQ
A. Glover
Holtby Grange Farm,Holtby Lane, Holtby, York, YO19 5XQ
A. Godridge
10 Glebe Road, Claverdon, Nr Warwick, CV35 8NX
S. Haggan
46 Ash Street, Chimney Pot Park, Manchester, M6 5NA
S. Huxley
Station View, Llynchys, Oswestry, Shropshire, SY10 8LJ
I. Kelly
R. Leece
3 Newgate, Wilmslow, Cheshire, SK9 5LL
C. Mahon
1 Wharf House, Barton Turn, Barton Under Needwood, Staffs,
DE13 8DZ
S. McConaghy
M. Reece
17 Hidcote Way, Daventry, Northhants, NN11 8AE
S. Jones-Richards
Bone Farm, Heamoor, Penzance, Cornwall, TR20 8UJ
M. Simmonds
The Gables, Southhamton Road, Cadnam, Southhampton,
SO40 2NF
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The Poultry Club of Great Britain’s current Book of Standards says
Of Gold Laced Wyandottes:
“Ground colour rich golden bay, markings black”
This is, to put it mildly, not really a lengthy description on what is required
and thus perhaps leading to the present confusion in the club amongst
members on what particular shade they like or would prefer. Talking to a
relatively new but very successful exhibitor, I was told: “I’ve been to a few
AGMs and all we do is go round in circles when the Gold Laced standard is
discussed!” So I propose to bring photos to the AGM of several different
shades of Gold or “rich golden bay,” so that we can discuss and perhaps
vote on and then ballot all members as to which colour they prefer. We will
have to accept that whatever colour is preferred by the majority will not
please everyone, but unless we do something like this (or any other
practical idea a member may have) then we will go round in circles for ever
- like we have been doing for some time! I would appreciate the retiring
President’s view on this.
Those closely involved with Gold Laced know what shade they prefer so it
may not be advisable to list names here. But basically asking around Gold
Laced breeders, it is split between the dark mahogany ground colour (like
the Gold Laced that come out of Blue Laced breeding) and the light ground
colour of the cock breeding females. As I write this I am trying to arrange
to have these colours illustrated in the yearbook currently being compiled.
If this proves not to be possible, and either way, I have colour photos to
bring to the AGM to hand out to attendees. To further (but not
intentionally) complicate matters, I know some breeders who have
produced a bay ground colour in between the dark and light, photos of
which I also intend to bring to the meeting. I am aware that the numbers
of Gold Laced have declined, so to get the ‘in-between’ shade has not
always been by design but rather by necessity because birds have not
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always been available to breed true cock breeders or pullet breeders. In fact
one argument is that not least because of small numbers, the club should
adopt a colour that reflects just ONE breeding pen!
DARK MAHOGANY GROUND COLOUR
From a distance the bird can appear black and the colouring is difficult to
appreciate, with the very dark mahogany ground colour not being able to
be distinguished very well from the black outer lacing on the feathers.
Apparently the Vice Chair of the Poultry Club and new member of the
Laced Club, Edward “John Wayne” Boothman, said that he was very
pleased with the Blue Laced bantam trio he had from myself, as the
offspring produces very dark Gold Laced Wyandottes which can be shown
as pullet breeders. Well, this is just WRONG! Not if it is desired to try and
get a pure strain of Gold Laced. The pullet breeding females of Gold Laced
are very dark mahogany ground colour and are preferred by a good
percentage of well established members, not least including the relatively
new but very successful ‘entrant’ to our club, Steve Dace.
VERY LIGHT BROWN GROUND COLOUR
From a distance this Gold Laced Wyandotte is more clearly recognised but
the undesirable shaftiness in the feather can be more easily seen .This is the
colour of the cock breeding females, that some (again) well established club
members would like to see adopted as the main show colour, not least
because then both show colours (male and female) could ‘come off’ the
same pen, which might encourage more fanciers to breed them. And as such
would increase the at present poorly supported Gold Laced classes. This is a
view shared by experienced club members and judges Colin Mitchell and
Edward Hayden.
‘MIDDLE OF THE ROAD’ i.e. INBETWEEN COLOUR
My neighbour (and new club member) Philip Shaw saw some of my Gold
Laced and fell in love with them, so with the help of Edward Hayden and
(indirectly) that of ex Secretary Liz Vernon Millar, has bred a bevy of Gold
Laced bantams this year, which I noticed over the fence the other day. To
be honest, liking what I call the ‘middle of the road’ colour, I took some
photos, one of which is enclosed in the yearbook to compare at the side of
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the ‘very dark ground colour’ pullet breeders and the ‘very light ground
colour’ cock breeders.
The yearbook will go out to all members, and comments will be
appreciated. Photos will be handed out at the AGM this year (printing
done thanks to our “web site” guru Gay) and after discussion at the AGM,
a possible ballot sent out to all members with next year’s newsletter.
Richard A Rowley
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Stoneleigh Park
Warwickshire
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Contact for schedules
Anne Bachmet
Keepers Cottage
40, Benvarden Road
Dervock
Ballymoney
Co. Antrim
BT53 6NN
Tel: 02820 741056
E-mail: info@poultryclub.org
Club AGM will held at 1pm on Saturday room 3
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Contact for entries
A D Keep
11 Oakley Road
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Bedfordshire
MK41 6AN
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Please note; sorry if your win is not listed, but I can only publish
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Club Stand at the Federation Show
Chairman / J. Treasurer:
R.A Rowley
Secretary /J. Treasurer:
C. Roberts
Committee:
R. Wood, M. Vaughn, C. Mitchell
Yearbook editor by C.Roberts
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Sub-edited by N. Heffron