Dune BD Prime 3.0 (V1.1)
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Dune BD Prime 3.0 (V1.1)
Dune BD Prime 3.0 (V1.1) Hi-Jack There are four players that kept people hostage in 2009 of which everyone has raised expectations. The PopCorn Hour C-200 based on Sigma SMP8643, the Dune BD Prime 3.0 based on Sigma SMP8642, the DviCo TViX M-6600N based on RealTek 1283 and not in the least the YuiXX based on Intel’s chip. With the Dune BD Prime 3.0 on our table we have three of the 4 most exciting players at the moment. HDI has grown in respect over time despite a rough start right here at MPC but in the end with updates managed to become to easiest player without limiting the user with a great interface and good options. It went into history as the first Hybrid that could handle BD as well, original sources and backed up sources. With the HDI 3.0, the competition with the C-200 from PCH becomes reality and if Dune BD Prime can perform well and keep things simple (unlike the C-200 which is mixing too much for my personal taste), the HDI certainly will have a chance to surpass the C-200 is some ways. Let’s get the ball rolling… www.mpcclub.com Dune BD Prime 3.0 Dune BD Prime 3.0 is like the earlier model looking as a standard DVD or BD player. That’s already one of the benefits of the unit as mostly we get square or rectangular boxes (Mede8er, DviCo, Xtreamer), 2 story high blocks (C-200). Occasionally there’s something normal reaching us and that’s the BD Prime models. Sleek and sexy looking, the Dune BD Prime 3.0 integrates a little display and power button on the left frontal fascia and operational buttons on the right. A proud Blu-Ray drive is sitting in the middle. The rear end will impress with its 7.1 analog output besides the more usual optical and coaxial. HDMI 1.3, gbit network (no more module adding costs), 2 USB hosts and an eSata connector, component + composite make up for your possibilities to hook up the unit to TV or AVR. The power supply is integrated which avoids the need of an adapter which we like as well. The GBIT operation is experimental considering Sigma does not officially support GBIT networking however we seen it operate on earlier models and newer models just fine. The advanced playback accelerator in the player consists of enhancing code for streaming in the SDK and the firmware so performance for streaming is brilliant and fluent on a 100 mbit network which caused HDI months of time to develop, according to the info. On the right side of the unit, as with the earlier model, there’s USB connection available. On the opposite side of the player is room for a small fan which can be added however seems unneeded given the unit comes standard as a passively cooled system. Setup and Menus HDI stuck to its simple interface as far as menus are concerned. The main menu icons and layout are unchanged and that’s good as the interface was one of the strong holders of the earlier models. For box contents, we get the player, batteries, remote control, HDMI cable and composite cable. A quick start guide and manual shall be included (earlier units don’t have these guides and can download these online). The unit’s is powered by Sigma SMP8642 running at 667MHz, 512MB memory, 1GB flash system flash and an extra 1GB flash for playback of BD – Live titles. Size of the unit is standard player size, 42xm width, 26cm depth and 5cm height. Overall the unit is good as quality is concerned, we see no obvious mistakes. Cooling is inactive as there is no fan by default however, if you prefer, one can be fitted inside the unit. The units are however sealed and void warranty if you would attempt this. This is kind of an open invitation to break the warranty. The setup section contains the categories where we can alter settings and these are quite deep however several do not contain many options to change. The overview is clear and well organized. The unit can be fitted with a 2.5” hard drive however also here, the modification should be provided by the reseller instead of doing it yourself to prevent damage or loss of warranty. Unlike the earlier models, there’s no room for expansion slots like we had before however internally there’s still a mini PCI slot available. I wonder if support for Wireless will be supported by USB sticks or by this mini PCI add-on. We’ll try and answer that along the review. The power button in front can be toggled on and off and everything feels firm. While the player has no “wow” factor in design (pretty much standard look), it’s beautiful and attractively simple. General settings contain the interface language and Screen Saver timeout interval which can be set from 10 seconds up to 1 hour. The languages available include English, French, German, Dutch, Russian and 1 other language I can’t read since HDI decided to use the original language on the interface. What is most unique is there’s a setting to load “custom” languages. If you thus prep a file the unit can load with your language, it seems that can be done. (Procedure available here) Aspect ratio and video connection can be selected here as well between analog and digital outputs. Blu-Ray Audio, which can be set to Best Quality and PiP support. Nothing fancy in the network settings besides the usual DHCP or fixed IP address that can be chosen and the activation of wired or wireless operation. Wireless is not integrated by default and requires a USB Wlan dongle which is supported by HDI. (Currently DWA-140 D-Link only) When using wireless, you can set security from none, the simple 64 and 128 WEP encryption up to the more advanced WPA2 AES/TKIP. What does not happen is scanning for available Wireless connections yet. The SSID must be manually entered. Video sections allow the usual settings for output ranging from PAL and NTSC up to 1080p. What is well done is the settings for 24p and on top of that auto frame rate can be set as well which more advanced users will please. Audio settings include the activation of digital and analog output. Good to know is that the Dune BD Prime 3.0 is capable of DTS down mixing in case you don’t own an AVR. Even more important for an HD player is the fact Dune BD Prime 3.0 can handle multichannel decoding of all HD audio formats that really matter including DTS-HD HRA, DTS HD Master Audio and Dolby TrueHD both over the 7.1 outputs or as PCM. Indirectly, this is important for the PiP functions and secondary audio features which require decoding two streams so this makes the Dune BD Prime 3.0 a full 7.1 audio capable BD player. Something the competition is not capable off due to having made different choices. Settings are easy when you know what you’re doing however I rather see auto scanning for wlan. Applications are important on every player and I made myself famous for stating “not to make a media player a weak replacement for PC” by adding too much stuff into the unit which draws away attention from its main core. HDI in my opinion found the perfect balance in what to do and what not to do despite demand from a small group of users. IPTV, Internet Radio, Torrent program, Photo Viewer and Network Browser are the applications that are available for which several settings can be made. and advanced mode. This system allows other programs to prepare images for all your movies and few systems have made their name being MyMovies, iDune and then some… We recommend looking at the forums for information as it makes the system quite a bit more appealing to browse… For the Photo Viewer, we can set an interval ranging from 1 second up to a whole day and select between 14 effects that spice up our slideshow. IPTV can be enabled and disabled as far as showing it on the main screen is concerned. These options prevent the main screen from clutter for items you do not wish to use. Great stuff! Same option to show up on the main screen or not is here for the Internet Radio application and the Network Browser. This last one, the Network browser is important to scan for shares on the network automatically. Torrent options, the service can be started or stopped in case you want to use it. Selection to show on the main screen is available, can start when the player is powered on, deactivate download on startup, port setting, max number of peers and finally max download and upload. Appearance has become more important than ever and HDI build further upon the system introduced previously with allowing icon view or list view in simple Besides the selection of icons or lists for browsing, the same selection can be made for the setup menu or the main menu along with some other minor options on how the interface should look. This setting contains no less than 5 subcategories we run over briefly. Encodings is where we set the encoding for the player, optical drive options allow setting auto start for BD and audio CD or DVD. We can enable time sync with an online server or change some system settings which include: Fast Disk Access BD PlayBack improvements BD bitstream improvements Experimental GBIT operation Last option is the “advanced” settings although these should not scare you at all. The Dune BD Prime 3.0 integrates the ability to make screenshots with the player and the button used for this is the EJECT button. This button can be toggled in the advanced settings to either eject the tray or make a screenshot on the internal hard drive or attached USB should no internal drive be used. Moreover, the screenshot type can be set to PNG or BMP, whichever you prefer. The info screen shows the usual firmware version, free memory for the 2GB internal FLASH drive and the IP address. What is lacking is HDD status for the internal hard drive. I also not found any formatting options and tools that allow me to check for errors but we can find HDD info elsewhere… changes are including more buttons for functions as repeat, shuffle and dedicated BD activities. The remote has however not only gained buttons, it has lost the fluorescent buttons which helped operating the unit in the dark better. Other than that, we are totally satisfied. As with the earlier units, the HDI makes use of popup menus for administering your shares and connected devices, copy files and so on… When using this menu on the hard disk, following are the options. Other settings in the advanced section: 1. 2. 3. 4. Hide System Files Enter button on file (Play file / playlist) Play button on file (Play file / playlist) Enter on DVD folder (Play DVD / Open folder / Ask User) 5. Enter button on BD folder (Play DVD / Open folder / Ask User) 6. Power button (Stand By / Off) 7. Remote control Type Finally, there’s the option to read up on some information for your player on the information screen. We can check the partition, format the partition, format disk so the items needed are covered and that’s just plain good thinking to have everything ready when needed. We consider this crucial considering the end user is not supposed to take out the drive… Format supported is limited to EXT2 only. That concludes the setup options where we mainly miss out on audio settings separately for DTS, AC3, WMA Pro and then some… Other than that, everything is here we can think off and is considered “must have”. Hardware wise we are satisfied except for the remote which has become a bit less quality compared to the earlier model. It has become smaller but has gotten more buttons which are placed differently than the earlier models and might have a little learning curve for users acquainted with the Dune BD Prime 1. Main We leave it up to you if you owned an earlier model to decide if you think it is better or not. Tastes vary. Blu-Ray and DVD The Dune BD Prime 3.0 is capable of playing back Blu-Ray and DVD both commercial and backed up titles from storage in raw folders (BDMV and VIDEO_TS or ISO (BD_ISO and DVD_ISO). Navigating the disk is fast and easy. The player responds well to the commands although remote needs pointing at the player (no RF). menu, pressing left arrow removes it again from screen. Also the popup menu button does the same. We tried over 15 titles of each and found no issues at all in loading or playing files. Even streaming over a 100mbit network went flawless using a NAS and BDMV as a source. Not a single hiccup was detected and HD Audio is neatly passed on to the receiver. Update: During verification rounds we noticed minor issues we know of the earlier units. Few disks cannot play properly and we came across 1 I/O error which we could not reproduce. Occasional a disk may fail. No issues streaming were found. Search function is provided on BD and DVD however does not integrate with chapters. Only time search is shown where you can enter hours, minutes or seconds. You have to press one extra time to reach the “search” marker and activate the time entered. We rather had a window integrate chapters and time, and then press enter to apply instead of extra navigation needed. Up to profile 2.0 which used the internal memory provided for BD Live content, loading of the disks is fast (15 seconds or less) and the same performance is measured for streaming. This is amazing considering HDI does use some buffering scheme inside its so called “enhanced playback”. I don’t even care anymore what it is they done, I only care that it works so well done. In a single occasion we saw some weird failure for playing the disk claiming something about security but we could not reproduce it and clicked away the screen too fast. Other than that, we can only remark a little noise on the drive when loading disks. While on regular playback the navigational buttons are used for a different thing, during BD playback, pressing right arrow brings up the BD Skipping chapters is working fine as are the fast forward and rewind functions on the player running at 2X, 4X and 16X. Did we forget 8X here? Player reacts fast within half a second and clearly is up to the task of navigating BD including the trick play options. Now, what is missing? I could not find either function that bookmarks the BD or DVD on command or automatically. This is something that belongs on a new generation player where bookmarks can be made on all type of files and recalled from a pop up window up to 10 titles bookmarked. On BD titles that support it, we can enable second audio and video stream (also called PiP, Picture in Picture). We found a way to call up the window however both stated “off” and I’m not sure how to toggle it on other than doing so in the setup. Here again, also select button on remote seems to call the same function as the URL/Second Audio button. Pressing the ZOOM button also yields no reaction from the player during BD playback. We get a “forbidden” sign on our screen so likely it is by design. Understanding “why” would be nice. We leave this function for you to play with while we move on to the regular video section now. I’m sure we have good and some other stuff to say about it. Slow playback over BD and DVD, not a problem. Four levels are provided ranging from half the speed ½ to a quarter 1/4th of normal speed and even slower to 1/8 and 1/16. Video Playback Let’s start by getting the major points out of the way first. As with BD and DVD playback, no bookmark support and that’s a shame. We failed to play RMVB files which most new generation players are capable of when based on Realtek however Sigma does not include this format. HDI must look to add this to match the need of overseas market and slowly but surely, the use of RMVB in Europe is growing. After all, you don’t want to fall behind on supporting certain files often used which can be an extra reason to choose this player over the competition, even RealTek based. That said, we found the same functions as with DVD concerning trick play being FF, RW and slow playback. What works differently are the search functions. As with the earlier units HDI stuck to using the navigational arrows to move up and down a video playing. Pressing left or right moves up or down 10 seconds inside the video, up and down moves up 1 minute in either direction. The page + and – buttons add or distract ten minutes. This is very functional however we noticed, regular time search is not working and we rather have both enabled. Reference testing where we check out heavy scenes we know cause players to struggle often to keep up went flawless. Both Batman Begins famous bird scene and BDD Planet Earth Bird Scene passed flawless in 1080p over a 100mbit Dune BD Prime 3.0. While both embedded and external subtitles are supported on the player, default these are disabled and we already gave HDI few months ago notice this is a feature that bothers us and a lot of others. This must be addressed soonest possible. Luckily HDI already committed to changing this however has not done so over the last few months and we do want to rush them for it a little bit since it concerns “every” movie we play and therefore limits the convenience quite a bit. Subtitles are selected from a popup window (something similar we’d like to see for bookmarks later on being added to the player). Both embedded and external subtitles will be loaded in this virtual list for selection. Zoom functions is something I really like and push towards manufacturers do implement properly considering we often want to remove black borders from top and bottom or left and right. Dune BD Prime 3.0 features a ZOOM function that does all that without becoming complex featuring predefined zoom options and an advanced custom zoom option that progressively zooms in on the image. except off course the subtitles. In addition, I repeat, bookmark and GoTo functions are required as a cherry on top of the cake. For specifications about supported formats in video, subtitles and audio, visit the HDI web site specifications. We concur the major formats claimed supported are working. http://dune-hd.com/hd_players/111-dune-bdprime-3.0.html This is one fine and easy video player that has quite a few slick options to enhance on top of the decent video playback. For instance, the ability to add video folders onto your screen with external applications like this: First item on the list is “Setup” which takes us to a place where we can change the font size and position of the subtitles including making changes to colors and sync the subtitles. While these are needed on a player, we feel syncing subtitles should be possible without going through all these windows directly. The options include by default normal zoom (actual size), enlarge, and make wider and taller, cut edges and finally custom ZOOM. It’s simply a pleasure to see such easy and good working features provided on a player without going thru extensive clicking and menus to get the job done and that counts for about everything (We recommend iDune or MyMovies tool) Please check the forums for information. Music playback The music section was not pleasing me at first and I needed the help of HDI a little to find the features. After starting a music file all we saw was initially a black screen showing with the title played. This seemed later to be a screensaver function for Plasma TV’s. The player supports recurring folders and allows selecting files and folders to build your own playlist selected from a list. Will we find an equally good picture section compared to the music section? No we don’t. Slideshow kicks in properly and the transition effects are working fine. Rotation works as well but there’s no ZOOM featured on this section and therefore also no way to pan the image and zoom into a section of the image. Using the Pop Up Menu button on the remote revealed the goodies we needed showing a list window that can be browsed during playback and revealed both shuffle and repeat options are provided. Pressing “Enter” on a file will start the file only as where using the play button will prompt you to play images or music if mixed inside a single folder. No option is provided to start a slideshow with music in the background and the play button functions as a way to start the directory for playback. Information can be called upon. Maybe one small remark to make is the volume does not work on the list view here. Overall, safe to state after the initial impression thinking nothing is there, we end up being quite satisfied on these functions. The only missing feature would now be supporting simultaneous slideshow and music to be used with the power of all these transition effects supported. Vote for features: http://dune-hd.com/features/ Picture playback There is a shuffle and repeat function thought the missing music in the background makes the picture section limited to be fun and this is something we feel HDI must concentrate on a little too in the near future to add some spice… Sharing and Performance Important on the next generation of players is the performance. We want more than the poor 3 – 4 MB/s we seen before as the chip is capable of more if done properly. The internal drive is formatted in ext2 because the unit cannot handle NTFS Read/Write operations so on NTFS only read operations can be achieved (and for that also limits administering files of attached storage formatted in NTFS). The SMB function applies to the internal HDD drive. We connected a USB drive to the USB host on the left side of the unit and a hard drive in the rear (without power supply) and both came active properly on the player. MB a second more on read performance leading to 3.5 MB/s. Copying the same file as before now took just over 4 and a half minute now performing at almost 3MB/s. The ATTO benchmark results are thus confirmed. It does however not pop up as a network drive until we reboot the player completely. Then both attached devices are shown up over the player’s IP address, and a printer which I can’t place really. The hard drive is named using a certain identifying number attached to it which makes it slightly inconvenient to map it as a drive on the PC. While usually we only calculate the performance copying a file and then divide it into a certain MB/S translation, we decided to take it one step further on the Dune BD Prime 3.0 and run IOMETER tests on both wired and wireless connection along the generic translation of copying files. Copying a regular Divx file took a total of 1 minute and 20 seconds averaging towards almost 10MB/s. 100MBIT test Cable Network While we failed to get an IP address over DHCP previously, we decided to try again enabling the gbit network in both DHCP or Fixed IP mode. While DHCP still could not connect to the player properly, we managed to enter IP details manually however resulted still in failing to use the player in GBIT mode replying to a ping but stating “destination host unreachable”. This has nothing to do with the cable as far as I am concerned. I read online someone reporting to only get 2-4 MB speed on both read and write actions and gotten worried. Luckily our results show quite different numbers. Over cabled LAN we achieved a maximum read speed of 8MB/s and write performance capped just over 10MB/s. These results are expected on the 100Mbit network. Copy performance by the way was really static at 10MB/s not fluctuating in our tests while the read performance kind of went up and down in performance averaging towards 5 – 6 MB/s while the write performance average remained at 10MB/s consistently. GBIT performance Cabled Network Wireless test Network We do the same for wireless using the D-Link adapter connecting to our router over Wireless N using WPA2 security. We measured an average speed of 3.0MB/s on write performance and a half Would be interesting to measure the same performance over GBIT and see if at all it yields any benefits. Longest conclusion ever Dune BD Prime 3.0 definitely belongs to the players that impress me about their status of maturity in video playback and partially for music too for a newly released player on a new platform. After our verification round, we decided the corrections made throughout the review showing it has a reasonable music section on top of the video performance carried us a long way to award the Dune BD Prime 3.0 with the Editor’s Choice award… (knowing bookmarks and the subtitle issues will be soon resolved as well) Bookmarks, GoTo function on other video than BD and DVD chapters integrated into GoTo function and then some options we discussed during the review should be added to complete the player where mixing music with images is a feature we’d want as well… So the Dune BD Prime 3.0 goes home in my opinion as an extremely simple and great player that offers something for everyone and is the right choice for less geeky environments (families). I’m also glad despite numerous requests; HDI did not go into the same direction as the competition stashing the player full of complex applications that breaks the benefit of HDI’s convenience and would render it into a weak “pc” more than a media player. It goes without saying there’s demand for such complex players but they do cost points in convenience never the less and applications are paid for, used or not. So what if we were to choose between, let’s say PCH and HDI? Oh common, I know you want me to go there Ok, I’m not afraid of getting hammered everywhere for my opinion so here goes… To make it easier, we will run the comparison from few angles… Price Wise: Dune BD Prime 3.0 If we bring the C-200 up to the level of Dune BD Prime by adding the BD drive, checking the price balance would bring the Dune BD Prime 3.0 on top only due to being a complete package where we don’t have to add a modular BD drive and start fiddling inside the system to make it to what it’s supposed to do. Off course we can discuss how some components on C-200 are adding expense to the system which explains the difference in price (display, RF remote), it’s not the point. For example, RF remote is as much a benefit as a burden, for universal remote users for instance being forced to purchase an IR (optional) which is attached externally and less convenient… Just goes to show, how good options can be “not so good or even inconvenient” from a different perspective. The cost of the PCH C-200 with a BD drive comes out higher than the Dune BD Prime 3.0, no matter what reason. Technical / Hardware / Software: PCH C-200 From a technical perspective, so for advanced and geeky people, we feel PCH C-200 is a better fit. Also from hardware point of view a big display, RF remote and full ATX power supply are benefits over the Dune BD Prime 3.0. Software wise the C200 is a step ahead of the Dune BD Prime 3.0 as well and I don’t mean on firmware for video, more on NMT apps integrating all kinds of things. In my opinion it’s not a benefit (as it adds to complexity and unfriendly home use to add too much geeky stuff) but many advanced people love it and we must recognize other’s opinions as well. Convenience: Dune BD Prime 3.0 Due to the same complexity that earns the PCH C200 the title in technical / hardware / software section, it causes them to lose the title in convenience. A lot of actions need taken and the complexity of software setup bring it down the ladder as a family player. To me, the HDI is clearly a winner in that department by keeping things simple and still get the job done, even in better ways sometimes (7.1, streaming over 100 mbit perfectly). Trust level: PCH C-200 Our trust to bring the player up to a certain level within its possibilities makes PCH C-200 the winner again as honestly Syabas releases more and bigger firmware releases even though lately it often comes with bugs like on the initial release of the products. This can work towards a better player or making it worse, however history shows Syabas is quite fast and regular releasing updates where HDI makes progress at a slower pace. Performance: C-200 and BD Prime 3.0 Playback performance measured between the C200 and BD Prime 3.0 leads to different results. In copy performance and GBIT performance the C200 clearly is faster than the BD Prime 3.0. IN playback however the C-200 struggled to perform on a lot of files (due to driver problems and NFS) whereas the HDI just waltzes thru the heavier files we threw at it including BD and MKV 1080p. So both take a point here in a different segment of performance. First Impression: Dune BD Prime Although hardware wise the C-200 was leaving a great impression on me during the time we reviewed the unit, we could not surpass the fact the firmware on all three sections was poor and inadequate of even reaching the level of their earlier models. HDI does that, it reaches the same level of the earlier models without too much extra though so it’s not all sunshine for them either. The fact is however everything Dune BD Prime 3.0 must do now is to improve where the C-200 must work still towards reaching the same levels as their earlier units. Conclusion preference: PCH C-200 BD Prime 4.0 I know it does not exist but in an ideal world both HDI and Syabas would sit together and make a player that combines the best of both worlds. I can’t make a preference on either player clearly as I prefer to get any one of these for different reasons. Combine the easiness of HDI’s interface and audio abilities with the more advanced hardware and software apps the C-200 has and we get a PCH C200 BD Prime 4.0. Now that would be my preference of an “all in one” device although they would have to work both on picture and sound section a bit more… Do I see anyone think of YuiXX as the solution now? That’s too premature. Both C-200 and Dune BD Prime stand their grounds on what makes them better than the other although honestly, I’m more impressed with the Dune BD Prime 3.0 than I was on the C-200 earlier as a first impression. This can easily be changed with a firmware releases… so it’s not the most important thing to remember out of this review. I can without a doubt recommend the Dune BD Prime 3.0 as an easy family player which is advanced enough for the geeks (without application needs) and simple enough for the kids, grandma and off course… natural blonds. Info that clears up things GBiT is not officially supported by Sigma and the company does recommend not using Gbit due to driver issues and more when using the player in certain environments or ways. The “accelerator” feature on the Dune should prevent any need for higher speeds. Although we agree with that statement (and verified it is capable of streaming properly), we still feel benefit for GBiT never was about streaming but more about reaching higher transfer speed copying data over the player’s network abilities. Region free… the unit is not however, we tried the old patch that existed for the earlier models and guess what… it still works on the newer models as well… Use at your own risk, off course. The fact ZOOM is not working on BD is a limitation designed by Sigma on their BD support on this platform. Subtitles disabled by default will be addressed in the next upcoming firmware in less than 14 days. In addition, bookmark function will be added over the course of the next few updates. Initially bookmarks will be made and recalled; in a second stage a recall window will be provided. Additional features that HDI will concentrate on to bring soonest possible include goto on regular files (there is a method but not a time search method), maybe could look into RMVB support. That concludes about everything I want to say about the unit. Only 2 days later providing this kind of review is hard work (late hours). However that comes off course with the possibility some things written are not well explained or need changes in the near future… Either way, this is a decent introduction to what you should expect of the BD Prime. BD players like the C-200 and Dune BD Prime 3.0 are software based BD players and not the same as full BD players. Occasionally, issues might pop up with certain disks failing to player properly. That’s the price of the game we have with a Hybrid unit that can do it all like these two.