Sesavlis nacvlad

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Sesavlis nacvlad
miniatiurebi
samtomeulis prezentacia da
~tenderSi mogebuli` dispenserebi
ar Cans, ar Canso...
daerxao... magisi dro
wavidao... ver mivarTviT avis mosurneebs _
Turme, es Cveni Saliko naTelaSvili ijda,
samtomeuls werda da prezentaciac moawyo.
samtomeuls ewodeba: `buSis TanamebrZolTa: dik
Ceinis, fridis, brus jeksonis, braizas da
sxvaTa danaSauli antikonstituciur gadatrialebaSi~ (sityvasityviT Caviwere)! axla am samtomeuls obamas gavugzavni, am saqmeze sagangebo prokurors davaniSnineb da mere naxon buSma
da misma damqaSebmao (marTla, brus jeksoni vin
aris?). sxvaTa Soris,
imave
pr e z e n t a c i a pr e s k o n f e r e n c i a z e
`vardebis gadatrialebis~ (ase uwoda) erTerTi mTavari mizezic
gagvimxila: buSis administraciis
mTavari
mizani Cemi saTaveSi
armosvla iyo da gadatrialeba
amitom
moawyobina
zemoT
CamoTvlil kriminalebs,
sorossac amitom daaxarjvina bevri milionio!..
arada,
yvelaze
metad, ra mxiblavs am
adamianSi, iciT (Salikos vgulisxmob, soross ki
ara)? ra da, TiTqmis darwmunebuli var (yovel
SemTxvevaSi, aseTi gamometyveleba aqvs xolme),
rom rasac ambobs, sjera!!! anu sjera, rom
buSma magis saxeli icis... Salva, Se bedniero!..
Sesavlis nacvlad
naxeT, mTeli abzaci `mivuZRveni~ Salva naTelaSvils.
ras niSnavs es, iciT? imas, rom salaparako aRaraferia da
Cemi `provokaciebi~ male arafrismTqmel, ufunqcio da
ukbilo paskvilebad gadaiqceva... aba, ra unda vTqva axali? isev 2 wlis win gamoWyletil Cernogoriis nakrebTan wageba, isev `saqarTvelos teritoriuli mTlianobis
mxardaWera~ mxolod sityviT da mxarze xelis tyapuniT,
isev is Sinagan saqmeTa ministri, isev is _ `istoria
CveniT iwyeba~, isev is opozicia, isev is estrada, isev is
mezoblebi... ho, marTla, Cvens mezoblad raRacebi xdeba:
somxebi da Turqebi SerigebasaviT raRacas apireben da
me ukve kompleqsi Camomiyalibda _ Tu viRac raime
sargebels naxulobs am regionSi, mgonia, rom es saqarTvelos xarjze xdeba... RmerTma qnas, vcdebode!..
qarTvel e.w. `Soumenebze~ waiRadavebda kaci, magram
RmerTma icis, mere vis sad da ris ministrad daniSnaven da vin sad `damipadiezdebs~: wina xuTSabaTs erTi
yofili `Sougerli~, amJamad, saministros funqcioneri
vaxsene, presaSi masze gavrcelebul WorTan dakavSirebiT, da ise ewyinaaa...
masac da masaviT `s karablia na bal~ moxvedrilebsac
minda movaxseno: Tanamdebobaze daniSvnis Semdeg Tqven
gqviaT `sajaro moxeleebi~ da Tqveni yvela saqcielsaqnari `sajaro msjelobis~ sagani SeiZleba gaxdes.
sxvaTa Soris, es satirul-iumoristuli gverdia da Tanac, `provokaciuli~, amitom xSirad
rom kiTxulobdeT da ara
mxolod maSin, rodesac
`keTilismyofeli~ dagirekavT _ naxsenebi
xaro, _ maSin gecodinebodaT, rom Tuki prezidenti ar brazdeba (ai,
dardi, Tu gabrazda!),
rodesac `karlsons~ vuwodeb da merabiSvili ar
migzavnis `ouris biWebs~,
rodesac arcTu lamazi
epiTetebiT vamkob, rodesac `opoziciis raindebi~ ar mweren `eris moRalateTa siaSi~ da rodesac TviT Saliko ar Civis
obamasTan, Cemi da buSis
danaSaulebrivi kavSiris
gamo, aseTi ambebi arc
Tqven unda miitanoT gulTan axlos _ axalgazrda xarT, guli getkinebaT...
saministroSi wylis dispenserebi xom dgas? iqneba, aba, ra! vinme Sinauri
`moigebda tenders~ da
albaT, Semoaqvs litri
wyali lar-naxevrad...
P.S.
ar vici, ra vqna, postskriptumSi
anekdoti SemogTavazoT Tu `teleimedidan~ gamosuli magari ambavi...
isev es sjobs, vidre `daZveldeba~:
giorgi
arvelaZe
(diax,
swored
`is~)
direqtorobas ar sjerdeba da telewamyvanobasac
apirebs!!!
rodis
gava
gadacema
eTerSi,
es
jerjerobiT araa cnobili, magram bolo informaciebis analizze dayrdnobiT, SeiZleba
vivaraudoT, rom `ojaxuri biznesis~ ambavSi
(misi meuRle prodiuseriao), `saubrebi seqsze~
mxolod qali-wamyvanis amara ar iqneba...
P.P.S. ase Tu gagrZelda, magari iqneba: benduqiZe _ gadacema `gurmanis~ wamyvani; xaCiZe _
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provokatori
gza #42 15.10.2009
5
qveyana
Wreli msoflio
amerikaSi leonardo
da vinCis ucnobi
tilo aRmoaCines
oqsfordis xelovnebis istoriis profesori, martin kempi amtkicebs, rom man
leonardo da vinCis aqamde ucnobi tilo
aRmoaCina. kempis TqmiT, multispeqtrulma
analizma uCvena, rom suraTis zeda marcxena kuTxeSi aRmoCenili anabeWdi sarwmunoa da is `wminda ieronze~ aRmoCenili
anabeWdebis identuria. `wminda ieroni~
italielma mxatvarma 1481 wels anu maSin
Seqmna, rodesac jer kidev ucnobi iyo da
asistentebis daxmarebiT ar sargeblobda.
`al-qaidam~ frangi fizikosi
teroristul saqmianobaSi CaiTria
32 wlis frangma fizikosma aRiara, rom `al-qaidas~ samxreT afrikis dajgufebasTan mimoweras internetis saSualebiT awarmoebda.
is policiam safrangeTis samxreT-aRmosavleTSi daakava da amJamad,
parizSi imyofeba. gavrcelebuli informaciiT, fizikosi sakuTar
codnas teroristuli miznebis gansaxorcieleblad iyenebda.
`ganaCeni~
moCxubari
wyvilebisTvis
malaiziis erT-erTi Statis
xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebma
gadawyvites, rom wyvilebi, romlebic gayras apireben, moklevadian ufaso saqorwino mogzaurobaSi gauSvan. adgilobrivi
xelisuflebis warmomadgenlis,
Terengan aSar idrisis TqmiT,
gayris zRvarze myof wyvilebs
Statis yvelaze Tvalwarmtac
kurortze 3 dRiT gagzavnian.
am programaSi monawileobis
msurvelebma, gancxadebis daweris Semdeg, ojaxuri problemebiT dakavebul fsiqologTan
gasaubreba unda gaiaron.
50 wlis ingliselma
eqimebi SokSi Caagdo
britaneTis erT-erT sagrafoSi mcxovreb gordon muri avtokatastrofaSi moyva.
mas Tavis qalis Zvali saocrad damsxvreuli hqonda da
eqimebi iZulebulni gaxdnen,
mis nacvlad metalis firfita CaedgaT. droTa ganmavlobaSi metalis qveS axali Zvali gaizarda. am ambavSi uCveulo araferi iqneboda, gordoni bavSvi rom yofiliyo,
radgan mozardebs isedac uviTardebaT da ezrdebaT Zvlebi, zrdasruli adamianebis SemTxvevaSi ki msgavsi ram jer ar momxdara.
arnold
Svarcenegeri
`cisferebs~
`mis indonezias~ Tanamemamuleebi gulSematkivrobs
emuqrebian
indoneziis provincia aCexis muslimani sasuliero pirebi im faqtma aRaSfoTa, rom
aRniSnuli regionis saxeliT,
`mis indoneziis~ silamazis konkursSi gamarjvebuli, 18 wlis
kori sandioriva sazogadoebis winaSe Tavsafris gareSe wardga. aCexebi miiCneven, rom sandiorivam uRirsi qmedebiT Tanamemamuleebi Seuracxyo.
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#42 15.10.2009
gza
kaliforniis gubernatorma arnold Svarcenegerma gei
politikosis, harvi milkis
dRe daawesa. xelmowerili
kanonis Tanaxmad, amieridan
kaliforniis Stati milkis dabadebis dRes yovel wels,
oficialurad aRniSnavs, magram zeimi dasvenebis dRed
ar gamocxaddeba. hari saxelmwifo moxeleTa Soris pirveli gaxldaT, vinc sajarod ganacxada, rom aratradiciuli
orientaciis iyo.
qveyana
3000 wlis winandel samarxSi
marani aRmoaCines
samarxi, sadac marans
miakvlies, diRmis velis CrdiloeT nawilSi, e.w. naqulbaqevis
teritoriaze mdebareobs. iq aRmoCenil
nivTebs uaxloes momavalSi Tbilisis arqeologiur muzeum-sacavSi gadaitanen, sadac
dedaqalaqis teritoriaze gamovlenili 10
aTasze meti mniSvnelovani arqeologiuri eqsponati inaxeba. aRniSnul teritoriaze arqeologiuri samuSaoebi XX saukunis 80-iani wlebis dasawyisSi, saqarTvelos samxedro gzis gafarToebis dros daiwyo. maSin iq Sua saukuneebis xanis nasaxlaris naSTebi da
gviani brinjaosa da adreuli rkinis xanis samarxebi aRmoCnda. arqeologebis
TqmiT, naqulbaqevi istoriulad umniSvnelovanesi adgilia. didi mcxeTis
aRmosavleTis karibWe swored am teritoriaze mdebareobda. aqvea aRmoCenili
romis imperatoris, vespasianes warwera (ax.w. 75 weli). naqulbaqevze aRmoCenili
arqeologiuri Zeglebi adasturebs, rom aRniSnuli teritoria savaWro gzis
mniSvnelovan monakveTs warmoadgenda.
avstriaSi
qarTvelebi
umowyalod
scemes
avstriis ltolvilTa banakSi
qarTvelebsa da avRanelebs Soris Setakeba moxda. avRanelebma protesti imis
gamo gamoTqves, rom erT-erT qarTvel mamakacs guli aeria. yofiT niadagze dawyebuli dapirispireba banakis xelmZRvanelobam maleve CaaxSo, magram
RamiT, rkinisa da xis xelketebiT SeiaraRebuli 80-mde avRaneli mZinare
qarTvelebs Tavs daesxa da umowyalod
scema. 10 qarTveli mZimed daSavda.
amJamad isini `wiTeli jvris~ saavadmyofoSi imyofebian da mkurnalobis
kurss gadian. saqarTvelos sagareo
saqmeTa saministroSi imedovneben, rom
avstriis policia momxdari incidentis gamoZiebas Caatarebs da damnaSaveebs
saTanadod dasjis. aRsaniSnavia is
faqti, rom avRanelebsa da qarTvelebs
Soris msgavsi dapirispireba adrec
araerTxel momxdara.
teroristi qarTvelebi Tu
intrigani rusebi?
ruseTis uSiSroebis federaluri samsaxuris direqtorma, aleqsandr
bortnikovma ganacxada, rom qarTuli specsamsaxurebi `al-qaidas~ qselis
warmomadgenlebs CeCneTSi teroristebis gadayvanasa da daRestnisTvis
iaraRis miwodebaSi exmarebian; isini gamudmebiT cdiloben, daRestanSi
`maRali safrTxis obieqtebze~ diversiis gansaxorcieleblad, iaraRis,
asafeTqebeli mowyobilobebisa da finansuri saxsrebis gagzavnaso. uSiSroebis Sefis ganmartebiT, `maRali safrTxis obieqtebis~ rigs navTobisa da gazis milsadenebi ganekuTvneba. parlamentis vice-spikeri paata
daviTaia am braldebas absurduls uwodebs da acxadebs, rom aseTi
propaganda Cveni qveynis mimarT ruseTis mxridan morig provokacias
warmoadgens. am mosazrebas iziarebs eqsperti kavkasiis sakiTxebSi mamuka
areSiZe: `ruseTs surs, saqarTvelo, saerTaSoriso samarTlis TvalsazrisiT ukanono qmedebebaSi mudmivad eWvmitanilad
warmoaCinos. `al-qaidas~ emisrebis daxmarebaSi Tbilisis dadanaSaulebac am sqemaSi jdeba da piarteqnologiis nawils
warmoadgens~, _ aRniSnavs areSiZe da dasZens, rom saqarTvelos maincdamainc am `codvaSi~ SemTxveviT rodi adanaSauleben:
`ratom `al-qaida~?.. imitom, rom es organizacia amerikis specsamsaxurebis mieraa Seqmnili. moskovs surs, Seqmnas iluzia,
rom saqarTveloSi myofi amerikeli instruqtorebi cdian mebrZolebs, romlebsac Semdgom, CrdiloeT kavkasiaSi gzavnian~.
eqsperti darwmunebulia, rom saqarTvelos `al-qaidasTan~ aranairi Sexeba ar aqvs, razec isic metyvelebs, rom bortnikovma
verc erTi emisris vinaoba ver daasaxela.
gza #42 15.10.2009
7
qveyana
informacia
`miwaze moaruli
wmindani iyo...~
`merabi CemTvis miwaze moaruli wmindani iyo. vcdilobdi, misTvis mimebaZa, misi azri gameTvaliswinebina. amqveyniuri golgoTa ise gaiara, erTi
sayveduric ar dascdenia. saocrad
mtkice bunebis adamiani iyo...~ _ am
sityvebiT, merab kostavas misi gardacvalebidan 20 wlis Semdeg, luiza
SakiaSvili igonebs da sofel boriTTan momxdar im ubedur SemTxvevas
ixsenebs, romlis Sedegadac saqarTvelom didi mamuliSvili da Seupovari mebrZoli dakarga.
_ merabis daRupvaSi bevri, Tamriko CxeiZes adaSaulebda, magram darwmunebuli var, is arafer SuaSia...
saWesTan swored Tamriko ijda. mera-
bi, Tamriko da zura WavWavaZe erovnuli moZraobis warmomadgenlebTan
Sesaxvedrad quTaisSi
midiodnen. avaria aSkarad mowyobils hgavda.
Tamrikom kargad ver
gaarCia _ mis win muqi
feris cxovelma gadairbina Tu vinmem saburavi
Camoagora ferdobidan...
rodesac es ubedureba
moxda, me Cemi megobris,
neli gabriCiZis saxlSi
vimyofebodi. yvelani kinos saxlTan SevikribeT.
ar vici, ram gadamria, magram megreli qaliviT
xmamaRla kivili movrTe:
vaime, ubeduro, daRupulo saqarTvelo-meTqi!..
me da merabs uCveulo megobroba gvakavSirebda. Cemi gacnoba
jer kidev maSin undoda, rodesac me,
Tamriko CxeiZe, nana kakabaZe, marika baRdavaZe da irakli wereTeli cixeSi
visxediT. gacnobis dRidan gverdidan
aRar movSorebivar... sul imis SiSi
mqonda, rom moklavdnen. amis mcdeloba sakmaod xSiri iyo. erTxel walkaSi
mivdiodiT. merabs Tavisi moxuci berZeni megobris naxva undoda. saWesTan isev
Tamari ijda. gzaSi SemogvaRamda. erT
adgilas, sadac cal mxares cicabo
kldeebi iyo, meore mxares ki _
uzarmazari xrami, sapirispiro zol-
idan manqana pirdapir Cvenken wamovida
da kinaRam dagvejaxa. Tamrikom imarjva da gverdi auara. bewvze gadavrCiT.
mere gzaSi vxumrobdiT, me vambobdi
_ is manqana rom dagvjaxeboda,
saqarTvelos suk-i ras gaixarebda! _
erTi xelis mosmiT, 4 yofil politpatimars moiSorebda-meTqi... sxvaTa
Soris, walkis gzaze momxdari incidentis Semdeg sul raRac 2 Tu 3
TveSi moxda is sabediswero avaria,
romelsac merabis sicocxle Seewira.
faqtia, rom manqana SemTxveviT arc
walkis gzaze gvejaxeboda...
amerika _ saqarTvelos megobari
Tu ruseTis partniori?!
aSS-is saxelmwifo mdivanma, hilari klintonma moskovSi vizitis
dros, rus kolegasTan saubris Semdeg ganacxada, rom qarTvel
xalxs SeuZlia, aSS-is samxedro daxmarebis imedi hqondes, vaSingtoni saqarTvelosTan TanamSromlobaze uars ar ityvis, magram
raketsawinaaRmdego sistemis elementebis am qveyanaSi ganTavsebas
ar apirebs. saxelmwifo mdivnis TqmiT, misTvis cnobilia, rom
aRniSnuli sakiTxi ruseTs Zalze awuxebs, aSS-s ki daZabulobis
moxsna surs. `amerikas surs, ruseTTan erTad aaSenos raketsawinaaRmdego TavdacviTi sistema, romelic SeZlebs rogorc amerikeli, rusi xalxebis, aseve evropeli mezoblebisa da sxva mokavSireebis dacvas~, _ ganmarta klintonma. saxelmwifo mdivani
prezident dmitri medvedevsac Sexvda, maT axlo aRmosavleTSi
viTarebis daregulirebaze, CrdiloeT koreaze, iransa da birTvuli iaraRis gauvrceleblobaze isaubres. Sexvedris Semdeg,
medvedevma ganacxada, rom amerikis axal administraciasTan TanamSromloba maRal dones aRwevs, bolo dros ganviTarebuli movlenebi ki imaze metyvelebs, rom moskovma da vaSingtonma aqtualur, rTul sakiTxebze erToblivad unda imuSaon.
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#42 15.10.2009
gza
saagento
moamzada xaTuna
`interpresniusis~ cnobebis
baxturiZem
gamoyenebiT
politika
qveyana
Turqul-somxuri `daTboba~
da regionSi sxva `moTamaSeTa~ SesaZlo rolebi
TurqeTsa da somxeTs Soris mtrobis dasrulebam SesaZloa, kavkasiaSi
arsebuli viTareba radikalurad Secvalos _ aseTi mosazreba qarTvelma
politikurma eqspertebma da diplomatebma mas Semdeg gaavrceles, rac
ankaram da erevanma ciurixSi xeli moaweres SeTanxmebas, romelic
TurqeTis mxridan 1993 wels gawyvetili diplomatiuri urTierTobebis
aRdgenisa da amave wels daxuruli sazRvris gaxsnis SesaZleblobas
iZleva. rogorc cnobilia, or qveyanas Soris diplomatiuri urTierTobis gawyvetis mizezi, pirveli msoflio omis dros, oTomanTa jaris
mier somxebis masobrivi mkvleloba, saukunis dasasruls ki (1993 wels)
somxeTis mier TurqeTis mokavSire azerbaijanis teritoriaze (mTian
yarabaRSi) SeWra gaxda. mogvardeba Tu ara amjerad Turqulazerbaijanul-somxuri problemebi da ra gavlenas moaxdens kavkasiaSi
Seqmnili axali realoba Cveni qveynis politikur cxovrebaze, _ amis
garkvevas politikur eqspertTan _ soso ciskariSvilTan da diplomatTan _ zurab abaSiZesTan saubrisas SevecadeT.
xaTuna baxturiZe
_ rogor fiqrobT _ TurqeTsa da somxeTs Soris urTierTobis mogvareba obamas administraciisTvis erT-erT yvelaze mniSvnelovan
Temad ratom iqca?
soso ciskariSvili:
_ vaSingtonSi kargad aqvT gaan-
alizebuli, rom kavkasiaSi balansis
Sesaqmnelad, ruseTis klanWebidan
somxeTis daxsna Zalze mniSvnelovania. imisaTvis, rom erevanma kremlis
klanWebs Tavi daaRwios, aucilebelia blokadidan misi gamoxsna da
TurqeTis mimarTulebiT sazRvrebis gaxsna. garda amisa, somxeTis xeli-
suflebac kargad acnobierebs, Tu
ras niSnavs is faqti, rom danarCen
samyarosTan damakavSirebeli erTaderTi gza saqarTveloze gadis.
ruseTi Cvens sazRvrebTan gamudmebiT awyobs provokacias, ris Sedegadac somxeTi sakmaod xSirad zaraldeba. albaT iciT, rom SarSan agvistos omis dros somxeTi faqtobrivad, `daxurul qvabSi~ aRmoCnda.
_ mere, ruseTi Seegueba
TurqeTsa da somxeTs Soris urTierTobis mogvarebas?
zurab abaSiZe:
_ ruseTisTvis somxeTi _ strategiuli mokavSirea; aseve kargi
urTierTobebi aqvs TurqeTTanac.
ruseTis sagareo saqmeTa saministrom gaakeTa gancxadeba, rom moskovi miesalmeba TurqeTsa da somxeTs Soris diplomatiuri urTierTobis aRdgenas.
_ magram ruseTis mxridan sajarod gakeTebuli gancxadebebi
gza #42 15.10.2009
9
qveyana
politika
misi Semdgomi qmedebebisgan xSirad gansxvavdeba...
_ diax, mgoni, ruseTi marTlac,
garkveuli eWvis TvaliT uyurebs
somxeT-TurqeTis daaxloebas, magram
ofiacialurad, sxva Sinaarsis gancxadebebs ver gaakeTebs.
_
ras
gulisxmobT?
_ imas, rom TurqeTi kavkasiis
regionSi TandaTan aqtiurdeba, rac
istoriulad, ruseTs arasdros
moswonda.
soso
ciskariSvili:
_ somxeT-TurqeTs Soris urTierTobis mogvareba nawilobriv,
ruseTis interesebSic Sedis: moskovs aRar surs, kavkasiis regionSi
erTaderT odiozur saxelmwifod
warmoCndes. amitom mzad aris, TurqeTs regionis monitoringis ufleba gaunawilos.
_ imis gamo, rom izolaciaSi
iyo moqceuli, somxeTs ruseTTan
kompromisze wasvla xSirad uxdeboda. im SemTxvevaSi, Tu TurqeTTan urTierTobebs moagvarebs, Secvlis Tu ara erevani ruseTis
mimarT politikas da Seegueba Tu
ara kremli am faqts mxolod
imisTvis, rom regionSi odiozur
saxelwifod aRar warmoCndes?
_ gavlenis daTmobas sulac ar
apirebs. moskovSi mSvenivrad ician,
somxeTsa da TurqeTs Soris samezoblo urTierTobis aRdgenas ramdenime aTeuli weli mainc dasWirdeba. sul cota, naxevari weli gava,
vidre ciurixSi xelmoweril dokuments raime konkretuli Sedegi
mohyveba. moskovSi isic mSvenivrad
ician, rom am or qveyanas Soris
urTierToba nebismier dros SeiZleba daiZabos sul patara, primitiuli provokaciis Sedegad. provokaciebis mowyoba ki yvelaze ukeT
swored rusebs exerxebaT.
_ mainc ra SeiZleba
provokaciis sababi?
gaxdes
_ Tundac yarabaRi: somxebi jer
kidev imis molodinSi arian, rom
Tu isini genocidis sakiTxs daiviwyeben, yarabaRis teritorias samarTlebrivi formis sruli SecvliT miakuTvneben.
_ es molodini ramdenad marTebulia da SesaZlebelia Tu
ara, rom somxeTTan urTierTobis
mogvarebis mizniT, TurqeTma megobari azerbaijanis interesebi ugulebelyos?
_ TurqeTs jer arc erTi nabiji
ar gadaudgams somxeTisken imis
aRniSvnis gareSe, rom yarabaRis
momavali mxolod azerbaijanis teritoriuli mTlianobis principis dacviT warmoudgenia. miuxe-
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#42 15.10.2009
gza
davad imisa, rom azerbaijans sulac ar moswons TurqeTsa da somxeTs Soris urTierTobis daTboba
da eWvianobs kidec, am or muslimanur qveyanas regionSi erTmaneTze
ufro sando partniori ar hyavs
da aqedan gamomdinare, erTmaneTis
interesebs araviTar SemTxvevaSi
ar ugulebelyofs.
_ batono zurab, Tqven rogor
fiqrobT _ vis mouwevs yarabaRis daTmoba?
zurab abaSiZe:
_ es cota rTuli saTqmelia.
TurqeTis premieris mier oriode
dRis win gakeTebuli gancxadebis
Tanaxmad, Tu somxeTi yarabaRis konfliqtis mosagvareblad raime kompromisul nabijs gadadgams, maSin
TurqeTis parlamentSi somxeTTan diplomatiuri urTierTobis aRdgenis
Sesaxeb SeTanxmebis ratificireba
ufro iolad moxdeba. TurqeTi amas
somxeTisgan elis. magram ramdenad
wava amaze somxeTi, Zneli saTqmelia.
_ somxurma opoziciam ukve
ganacxada, rom is ar daTanxmdeba
yarabaRidan jarebis gayvanas...
_ albaT am sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT, parlamentSi da mis gareT cxare debatebi iqneba. somxuri sazogadoebisTvis es Zalian
rTuli sakiTxia.
_ TurqeTsa da somxeTs Soris
urTierTobis daregulireba da
kavkasiaSi situaciis axleburad
dalageba saqarTvelos axali safrTxeebis winaSe xom ar ayenebs?
_ Tu Cveni ori mezobeli qveyana _ somxeTi da TurqeTi erTmaneTTan urTierTobis mogvarebas
daiwyebs, es TavisTavad, misasalmebeli faqtia. ar unda vixelmZRvaneloT im principiT, rom rac kargia Cveni mezoblebisTvis, cudia
CvenTvis da _ piriqiT. TurqeTsa
da somxeTs Soris urTierTobebis
daTboba garkveulwilad Secvlis
viTarebas regionSi, rac, Cemi azriT,
perspeqtivaSi, gajansaRebasa da stabilizacias Seuwyobs xels.
_ dasavluri presa ukve alaparakda imis Sesaxeb, rom Tu
somxeTi yarabaRs ver SeinarCunebs,
prezidenti sargsiani ki imis SiSiT,
rom opoziciam RalatSi ar daadanaSaulos, saqarTvelosTvis samcxejavaxeTis warTmevas Seecdeba.
_ mxolod uaryofiTi azrebiTa
da emociebiT ar unda vixelmZRvaneloT. aucilebelia axali realobis seriozulad gaanalizeba da mezobel qveynebTan aqtiuri muSaoba.
Tu situacias sworad SevafasebT da
adekvaturad vimoqmedebT, maSin sasikeTo perspeqtivebsac davinaxavT. am
mimarTulebiT jer kidev bevri kiTxvis niSania. somxeTsa da TurqeTs
Soris diplomatiuri urTierTobis
aRdgena ar niSnavs maT Soris myisierad, ekonomikuri TanamSromlobis
ganviTarebas. siaxleebi win gvaqvs:
rodis gaixsneba sazRvari, rodis
daiwyeba maT Soris satransporto
mimosvla? _ ar viciT. es yvelaferi
erT dReSi ver moxdeba, droa saWiro.
Cemi varaudiT, cvlilebebi ufro
metad, ekonomikuri kuTxiT moxdeba
da sawyis etapze CvenTvis uaryofiT
Sedegebs moitans: mxedvelobaSi maqvs
somxeTidan satvirTo satransporto mimosvlebis SesaZlo Semcireba.
Cven mzad unda viyoT imisTvis, rom
magaliTad, tvirTebis garkveuli nawili, saqarTvelos nacvlad, TurqeTiT
gaivlis... magram saerTo jamSi, qveynebs Soris uTanxmoebis daZleva da
TanamSromlobis zrda regionSi yvelasaTvis sasargeblo unda iyos.
soso
ciskariSvili:
_ ara mgonia, ekonomikuri TvalsazrisiT, raime problema Segveqmnas. es naklebsavaraudoa, radgan
somxuri infrastruqtura mTlianad ruseTs ekuTvnis da mniSvneloba ara aqvs, ruseTis teritoriiT
gaivlis tvirTi Tu somxeTiT. amas
kargad acnobiereben dainteresebuli pirebi. me imis SiSi ufro
maqvs, rom somxeTi SeiZleba, marTlac gaaqtiurdes samcxe-javaxeTis mimarTulebiT. axla swored
am mimarTulebiT vcdilob sxvadasxva qveynis kolegebTan da konfliqtologebTan situaciis
garkvevas. Cven isic unda gaviTvaliswinoT, rom erevans, TbilisTan
dapirispirebisas, moskovi aucileblad `waexmareba~ da advili SesaZlebelia, javaxeTi separatizmis
kerad iqces. Tu gaviTvaliswinebT
im faqtsac, rom ramdenime dRis
win ruseTis uSiSroebis maRalCinosanma ganacxada, _ saWiroebis
SemTxvevaSi, birTvul dartymebsac
ganvaxorcielebTo, _ mivxvdebiT,
rom Cven winaSe arsebuli safrTxe
sakmaod didia.
_ gamosavals raSi xedavT?
_ Cvenma xelisuflebam ruseTTan
molaparakebis dawyeba unda SeZlos.
zurab
abaSiZe:
_ Zalian fxizlad unda viyoT
da maqsimalurad konstruqciuli
politika gavataroT, rogorc qveynis gareT, ise _ SigniT... rom
giTxraT, Zalian optimisturad var
ganwyobili, saqarTveloSi, regionsa
da msoflioSi gaviTarebuli movlenebis gamo-meTqi, tyuili iqneba.
magram wuwuni verafers gvargebs.
madli
qveyana
`me minda, mqondes Tbili saxli...~
paata burWulaZis saerTaSoriso saqvelmoqmedo fondma `iavnanam~ wlebis manZilze bevri adamianis bedi Secvala: zogierTs
Rimili daubruna, zogs _ sicocxlec, bevrs ki qvelmoqmedeba
moawyura... msoflioSi aRiarebuli saopero momRerali paata
burWulaZe Turme xSirad aRniSnavs: rac ufro didia xelovani,
miT ufro iolad Tanxmdeba saqvelmoqmedo koncertSi monawileobaso. TiTqos warmoudgenelia, im donis momRerlebi, rogorebic
arian _ monserat kabalie, dolora zajiki, miSel kraideri,
feruCo furlaneto, olga romanko, ramon vargasi, luCiana
dintino _ moswydnen TavianT Cveul, gadatvirTul cxovrebas,
sadac TiTo wuTic ki, pirdapiri da iribi gagebiT, Zvirad
fasobs da sruliad uangarod imReron an daukran Seni xalxisTvis, magram es _ faqtia!..
irma xarSilaZe
20 oqtombers fond `iavnanas~
mowveviT, saqvelmoqmedo aqciaze Tbilisis saxelmwifo sakoncerto darbazSi
msoflioSi saxelganTqmuli proeqtiT
_ `3 tenori~ msmenel-mayureblis winaSe
niu-iorkis `metropoliten operas~, laskalasa da londonis `kovent gardenis~ italieli solistebi _ marko berti da roberto aronika da cnobili
qarTveli momRerali badri maisuraZe
wardgebian. Tbilisis operisa da baletis Teatris orkestrs zaza azmaifaraSvili udiriJorebs.
_ vidre konkretul aqciasa
da Tundac Tqvens fondze visaubrebT, Tqven mier mowveul
qvelmoqmedebaze minda gkiTxoT:
erTia, gvstumroben da Cveni bavSvebisTvis mRerian, meorea, varskvlavebi kulisebs miRma rogorebi
arian _ ar Wirveuloben?
Teona jorbenaZe, fond `iavnan-
as~ samxatvro xelmZRvaneli:
_ Tqven warmoidgineT, am mxrivac
varskvlavebi arian. maxsovs, miSel kraiders vuTanxmebdiT _ rogor sastumroSi mogveTavsebina, ra kerZebi migverTmia
da ase Semdeg, _ qalbatoni miSeli ki
dumda. is iyo, vifiqre, arasworad vusvam SekiTxvas-meTqi, rom stumarma momigo: me aq Tqvens dasaxmareblad Camovedi
da ara imisTvis, rom sazrunavi mogimatoT da problemebi SegiqmnaTo... saopero xelovnebis legendam _ monserat
kabaliem, romelic gaeros keTili nebis
elCic gaxlavT, magaliTad, erTaderTi
ram iTxova: radgan Zalian stkioda fexebi da siaruli uZneldeboda, rogorme
mogvexerxebina, rom koncertamde kibis
safexurebis avla naklebad dasWirveboda... ar damaviwydeba amerikis SeerTebul StatebSi Cveni fondis warmomadgenlis, meco-soprano dolora zajikis
stumroba bavSvTa saxlebSi. rogorc Cans,
erTgan ramdenime bavSvi gansakuTrebulad sevdiani da daCagruli moeCvena da
rodesac sastumroSi dabrunebuls
Tbilisis Semogarenis daTvaliereba
SevTavazeT, kategoriuli uari gangvicxada. wavida hipermarketSi, sakuTari
fuliT SeiZina produqtebi da im bavSvTa saxlis aRsazrdelebs miutana...
_ Teona, ram moutana popularoba `iavnanas~?
_ ...romelsac sxva fondebiviT didi
fuli ar gaaCnia, ara?.. albaT ufro iman,
rom pirvel rigSi, adamianTa satkivris
gulTan axlos mitana SeuZlia da Semdeg,
ra Tqma unda, maTTvis
daxmarebis aRmoCena. da
es mxolod paata burWulaZisa da fondis
TanamSromlebis an Tundac msoflio donis im
varskvlavebisa da Cveni
_ legendarul qarTvel SemoqmedTa damsaxurebiT rodi xdeba.
vfiqrob, `iavnanas~ popularoba Cveni xalxis
sikeTis keTebis wyurvilma gansazRvra. xom
xSirad vupirispirdebiT da vaZagebT erTmaneTs?.. Cveni fondis
aqciebidan gamomdinare,
me sruliad gansxvavebulad vfiqrob: marTlac,
fondi `iavnana~, saqarTvelos
prezidentis uSualo TanadgomiTa da mxardaWeriT Seiqmna
vin vyofilvarT qarTvelebi, rom SegvZlebia erT muStad Sekvra da TiTo lariT
aTeulobiT adamianis gabedniereba! magaliTad, gasaocari ram iyo Cveni 2009 wlis
3 martis telemaraToni. warmogidgeniaT?
_ satelefono zarebidan Semosuli TiTo
lariT xalxma 7 ojaxs uyida bina! amitom
vambob: Cvenma qvelmoqmedma xalxma aqcia
fondi `iavnana~ popularulad. amitom vambob: iciT, vin aris `iavnana~? _ TiToeuli is adamiani, visac Tundac erTxel 10
TeTri mainc Caugdia sxvadasxva savaWro
obieqtSi ganTavsebul Cvens yulabebSi da
swored am 10-10 TeTriT kidev erTi
ojaxi dabinavda; `iavnana~ yvela is adamiania, visac erTxel mainc daurekavs 30-30ze an erTxel mainc umReria Cvens aqciakoncertze. paata burWulaZisa da Cveni
fondis wevrebis misia ki is gaxlavT, rom
erTmaneTs gavacnoT gaWirvebuli da maTTvis xelis gamarTvis msurveli adamianebi. am zafxuls movawyveT Zalian saintereso
aqcia: `bavSvi, romlis ocnebac aris... ~ _
anu Cven konkretuli adamianis ocnebas
vacnobdiT xalxs da iqve Cndeboda meore
adamiani, romelsac am ocnebis axdena surda.
magaliTad, erT-erTi aseTi adamiani aRmoCnda cnobili da CemTvis Zalze saamayo
pirovneba, filologi vaxtang rodonaia,
romelmac gadawyvita, erT-erTi bavSvis
ocneba aexdina da misTvis pianino gadaeca
saCuqrad. ase rom, 20 oqtombris aqciaze
batoni vaxtangi im bavSvs gaicnobs, visac
ocneba auxdina.
_ rogor aRricxavT konkretuli problemebis mqone adamianebs?
_ viRebT uamrav werils da vecno-
gza #42 15.10.2009
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qveyana
madli
avdiT erT xelmokle dedas _ nana
xatiaSvils, romelsac sabolood,
bavSvTa saxlidan Svilebis gamoyvanaSi davexmareT... cremlis gareSe ver
vixseneb kidev erT ambavs, romelic
2007 wlis 7 noembris cnobili movlenebis Semdeg moxda. CvenTan movidnen Ss saministros erT-erTi ganyofilebis biWebi TxovniT _ qvelmodaTo
daTo doiaSvilma,
doiaSvilma, nato
nato metoniZem
metoniZem da
da nika
nika
qmedebis gaweva gvinda, daxmarebas SememaniSvilma
memaniSvilma 5.000
5.000 lari
lari Semoswires
Semoswires fonds
fonds
movitanT xolme, oRond
deg saqarTveloSi stumrobiT Zalian
Cvens vinaobas nu daasaxvaJkacuri nabiji gadadga), saCuqrebiT
elebTo. maT Seqmnes samexeldamSvenebuli, gorSi mcxovreb devgobro, romelsac erTi
nilebsac ewvia.
Zalian kargi biWi edga saTTeona jorbenaZe:
aveSi _ swored mas mo_ 20 oqtombris aqcias konkretuhqonda xolme daxmareba im
li adresatebi hyavs _ 123 daoblebavSvebisTvis, vis ocnebebbuli bavSvi da araCveulebrivi 7-Svilsac winaswar vacnobdiT. saoiani deda, romelsac samegobro ki excari ram moxda: agvistos
mareba, magram TavSesafari ar aqvs. da
omSi is biWi daiRupa da
radgan Cveni mizania, es adamianebi
dRes Cven vexmarebiT mis
warvudginoT danarCen sazogadoebas,
daoblebul Svilebs... iciT,
kvlav dagvWirdeba masmediis Tanadgomgoni, dRes ukve SemiZlia,
ma, rac misgan arc arasdros dagvklebia.
Tqveni Jurnalis furCvens aqciebSi TiTqmis yvela telekoclebidan yvelas vacnobo
mpania monawileobda: `rusTavi 2~, `maemisi saxeli _ gia romeTeona jorbenaZe monserat kabaliesTan erTad
stro~, `sazogadoebrivi mauwyebeli~,
laSvili. sxvaTa Soris, misi
`pirveli stereo~, `kavkasia~... sapatriSvilebic mouTmenlad elodebian 20
istros dauqvemdebares, Cven kvlav vTanarqos arxze dRemde gadis Cveni mxaroqtombris aqcias, romliTac gvinda,
amSromlobT da erTad bevri kargi
damWeri rgolebi. amas xazs vusvam, radagvistos omis Semdeg daoblebul im
saqmis gakeTebas vapirebT. saerTodac,
gan yvelasaTvis cnobilia maTdami sa123 bavSvs gavugrZeloT daxmareba,
fondi `iavnana~, romelic 2004 wels
zogadoebis araerTgvarovani damokiromelTac ukve erTi welia, yovelTvisaqarTvelos prezidentis uSualo
debuleba... 20 oqtombers didi
urad vuricxavT Tanxas.
TanadgomiTa da mxardaWeriT Seiqmna,
dResaswauli moewyoba Tbilisis saxyovelTvis miaCndaT arasamTavrobo ormagaliTi uaxloesi warsulidan: marelmwifo sakoncerto darbazSi, radganizaciis saxelmwifosTan TanamSromTalia, oficialurad ar ganucxadebia,
gan `sami tenoris~ proeqti Zalze poplobis erT-erT saukeTeso magaliTad
magram msoflioSi aRiarebulma saopeularuli nawarmoebebisgan Sedgeba da
da faqtia, ganaTlebis saministrosTan,
ro momReralma da gaeros keTili nebyvelasTvis sasiamovno mosasmeni iqnemeriasa da kulturis saministrosTan
is elCma paata burWulaZem, im motiviT,
ba. amitomac Zalian mniSvnelovnad migerTad, socialurad Tu Semoqmedebirom iubileebis aRniSvnis dro ar iyo,
vaCnia am koncertis pirdapiri eTerTad, Zalze Rirebuli proeqtebi gvaqvs
uari Tqva 2008 wlis 30 seqtembers moskiT gadacema. imasac getyviT, rom marganxorcielebuli. bavSvebze zrunvis
ovSi karga xniT adre dagegmili misi
ko berti Tanamedrove msoflios erTmizniT, saqarTveloSi arsebuli arasaiubileo koncertis gamarTvaze, misamTavrobo organizaciebic gaerTianduxedavad imisa, rom yvela binen da daxmarebis axali formebic gaCnleTi gayiduli iyo; dabrunda: gaeros sasursaTo programa wlebda saqarTveloSi da 25 seqtemis ganmavlobaSi sursaTiT exmareba Cvens
bers Tbilisis sportis sasaxojaxebs, erT-erTi organizacia maT
leSi agvistos movlenebis Seddasaqmebaze zrunavs da ase Semdeg. mokegad daoblebuli bavSvebis
led, Zala _ erTobaSia! aseve, ucnobi
dasaxmareblad gamarTul
Tu cnobili adamianebis gaerTianebis
saqvelmoqmedo aqciaze misive
Sedegad Seiqmna `iavnanas~ samegobroemowveviT CamobrZanebulma msofbi. dRes ukve 44 aseTi samegobro konkrelio donis saopero momRtul ojaxebs SeZlebisdagvarad exmareba.
erlebma _ olga romankom, luCvens aqciebSi, faqtobrivad, yvela
Ciana dintinom da ramon varqarTvel xelovans miuRia monawileogasma masTan erTad, aTasobiT
ba, zogjer _ finansuric. magaliTad,
anTebuli sanTlis fonze, verdaTo doiaSvilma, nato metoniZem da
dis `rekviemi~ Seasrules.
nika memaniSvilma 5.000 lari Semoswires
swored im dRidan daeniSna omis
fonds, raRac Tanxa Cvenc davamateT da
Semdeg daoblebul 123 bavSvs
erT karg ojaxs bina SevuZineT, im ojaxis
grZelvadiani daxmareba; `iavnanSvilma ki Zalian gvasaxela _ msoflio
am~ 4 ojaxs SeuZina saxli, xolo
masStabis sportul turnirSi gaimarudedmamod darCenili 7 wlis
jva... uCinari qvelmoqmedebic arseboben.
dito razmaZe iSvila. aqciis
magaliTad, ar damaviwydeba vano oskomeore dRes batoni paata dirpeli, romelic TvaliTac arasdros gviJor migel gomes-martinesTan
inaxavs da yovelTviurad Cvens angariSze
da momReral olga romanko100 lars ricxavda. am Tanxas vuricxsTan erTad (romelmac omis SembiT. samwuxarod, zogjer maTi avtorebi
cruoben kidec, amitom werilebs gansaxilvelad, ganaTlebis saministros
bavSvze zrunvis departaments gadavcemdiT. iq arsebobda socialuri muSakebis jgufi, romelic TiToeul ojaxs
ecnoboda da maTTan muSaobda; am
jgufis daskvnis Semdeg vakeTebdiT arCevans. marTalia, axla socialur muSakTa jgufi janmrTelobis dacvis samin-
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gza
madli
erT yvelaze aRiarebul italiel tenorad miiCneva. is reJisor franko Zefirelisa da plaCido domingos rCeuli gaxlavT da swored amitom, 20
oqtombris proeqtiT dainteresda
saerTaSoriso media da msoflios
erT-erTi wamyvani sainformacio arxis warmomadgenlebi apireben kidec
Camosvlas da aqciis gaSuqebas.
_
rebs?
batoni
paata
ar
imRe-
_ Cveni aqciis finali yovelTvis
moulodnelobebiTaa savse, amitom
gvinda, esec siurprizad SemovinaxoT
da 20 oqtombers davelodoT (icinis). manamde ki imasac getyviT, rom
parizis `grand opera~ uaxloes xanSi
umaspinZlebs `iavnanas~ did aqcias,
romlis erT-erTi solisti iqneba
dRes msoflioSi pirvel sopranod
aRiarebuli ana netrepko. garda amisa,
paata burWulaZe molaparakebebs marTavs legendarul tenorTan _ mis
vinaobas jerjerobiT ar davasaxeleb
(icinis) _ da misgan uaxloes dReebSi
velodebiT pasuxs. da kidev... 18 seqtembers parizis operaSi Semdgari
`sevilieli dalaqis~ premieris monawileebi aprilSi kidev erTxel Seikribebian parizSi. erT mSvenier dRes
yvela solisti Camofrindeba saqarTveloSi da parizul premieras qarTvel mayurebelsac SesTavazeben.
ocnebebi epilogis magier: `myavs
5 Svili. sicocxle aRar minda,
iseTi mZimea imis SegrZneba, rom
cocxali xar da Svilebs elementarul pirobebs ver uqmni. veravin gaigebs, ris fasad SevZeli,
dRemde momeyvana simwriT gaz
rgazr
dili Svilebi. cocxal Svilebs
davtiri dRe da Rame. mi
rCevnia,
mirCevnia,
mxolod puriT varsebobdeT da
maT swavlis saSualeba mivce, Tumca wignebis SesaZeni fulic ar
maqvs...~
`var mesameklaseli. mSoblebi ar
myavs. deda cota xnis win gardamecvala. vizrdebi pensioner bebia-babuasTan. Zalian minda viaro
musikaze, magram ar maqvs pianino.
Zalian minda mqondes pianino, iseve,
rogorc Cems megobrebs...~
`var mravalSviliani ojaxidan.
iatakze vwvebiT, magram mainc ver
veteviT. Zalian minda mqondes 2sarTuliani sawoli. ar gvaqvs
leibebi da sabnebi. skolaSic didi
xania ar mivlia. daxeuli Sarvali
da daglejili fexsacmeli macvia.
Cems Zmas tariels daxeuli kedebi
acvia. ramdenime welia, ar gvaqvs
Suqi. xSirad SimSilobac gviwevs.
orjer mqonda filtvebis anTeba...~
`me minda, mqondes Tbili saxli...~
konfliqti
qveyana
`gamarjoba, `solneCnaia gruzia~
_ imedia, isev SevxvdebiT~(?!)
evrosabWos asambleis kuluarebi _
aRSfoTebuli evropeli diplomatebi da
rusuli diplomatiis rkinis logika
`_ gamarjoba, batono vladimir; qarTveli Jurnalisti girekavT
Tbilisidan.
_ Tbilisidan? _ diax; evrosabWos asambleasTan dakavSirebiT
vamzadeb statias da Tqveni, rogorc evrosabWoSi ruseTis mudmivi
warmomadgenlis pozicia mainteresebs... megona, Semdegi kiTxva iqneboda _ rogor momageniT?! _ magram Sevcdi: _ rogori amindia
TbilisSi? _ Semawyvetina rusma politikosma. _ Tbili da mziani,
_ vpasuxob cotaTi dabneuli, niSnis mogebis gareSe... _ Tbili da
mziani... _ Cailaparaka TavisTvis. ramdenime wamis Semdeg ki CameZia:
_ mainc, ramdeni gradusia temperatura? _ gamecina: _ Tu
amindis prognozs davujerebT, 26-27 iqneba. _ Tu davujerebTo,
brZaneT anu TqvenTan meteorologebic ityuebian?.. _ xumrobis
xasiaTze dadga rusi politikosi. Semdeg ki ufrosi Taobisgan,
araerTxel mosmenili, banaluri fraza gaimeora: `solneCnaia gruzia~... ukacravad, cudad ar gamigoT, qarTvel xalxs did pativs vcem,
magram xelisufleba gyavT cota ukuRmarTi, CvenTan ar megobrobs...
gismenT, rasTan dakavSirebiT mirekavT?.. gainteresebT, ratom gviwevs angariSs evropa da danarCeni msoflio?.. am kiTxvaze pasuxs
maSinve miiRebT, rogorc ki msoflio rukas daxedavT, _ ruseTs
planetaze xmeleTis erTi mesamedi uWiravs. Tanac marTlebi varT da
mtyuanic rom viyoT, amis Tqma arc ise advilia, rogorc es patara
saqarTvelos surs an warmoudgenia...~
lali papaskiri
ase originalurad daiwyo Cveni interviu. evrosabWoSi ruseTis delegaciis mudmiv warmomadgenels,
vladimir CiJovs gamaRizianeblad arxeini toni hqonda. rus politikoss `mziani saqarTvelos~ xsenebiT
gamowveuli nostalgia Zalian male
gauqra (SesaZloa, momeCvena da arc ki
hqonia) da pirdapir saqmeze gadavida:
_ darwmunebuli var, qarTveli
sazogadoeba briuselidan dabrunebuli politikosebis STabeWdilebebis qveS
karga xans iqneba, _ mTeli msoflio
ruseTis winaaRmdeg ariso, _ magram
realoba sxvagvaria _ ruseTi didi,
principuli, gnebavT, agresiuli saxelmwifoa (sityva `agresiuls~ qarTuli
mxare Cveni misamarTiT xSirad iyenebs)
da rac unda bevri investicia Cados
amerikam Tqvens qveyanaSi, rac unda kargad SeaiaraRos adgilobrivi jari,
pozicias ver Segvacvlevinebs _ Cven
mimarT keTilganwyobili Tu ar iqnebiT,
Zvirad dagijdebaT. sanam Cven mimarT
mtruli pozicia giWiravT, erTiani da
stabiluri ver iqnebiT.
_ batono vladimir, evrosabWom 2010 wlis ianvramde mogcaT
dro da valdebulebebis Seusruleblobis SemTxvevaSi, xmis
micemis uflebis CamorTmeva, xolo
Semdeg _ organizaciidan
icxva gemuqrebaT...
gar-
_ asea, magram im dResve ganvacxadeT,
_ ruseTi politikas arc vadis amowurvis Semdeg Seicvlis. es aris Cveni pozicia. Cvengan gansxvavebiT, arc erT evropel diplomats ar aqvs konkretuli
pasuxi, Tu ra moxdeba vadis amowurvis
Semdeg?!. ruseTi mzad aris, dResve datovos evrosabWo. am organizaciidan
sargebels ver viRebT, magram evropeli
partniorebi gvexvewebian (am sityvis
sruli mniSvnelobiT!..), ar datovoT es
organizaciao. CvenTan yofniT isini mogebuli rCebian _ rogorc partniorebs,
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qveyana
konfliqti
SeRavaTebs vuwevT... cnobisaTvis: 2008
wlis gazafxulze starts iRebda axali
proeqti _ e.w. `aRmosavluri partnioroba~, romelic e.w. `axali evropis~
qveynebTan energopartniorul urTierTobas isaxavda miznad. es proeqti saidumlo ar yofila da mis Sesaxeb
saqarTvelos prezidentmac icoda. 2008
wlis agvistoSi, roca saakaSvilma Cveni
moqalaqeebis winaaRmdeg SeiaraRebuli
agresia wamoiwyo (amis Sesaxeb taliavinis daskvnaSi naTlad weria), im qveynebma
agresor ruseTTan binzespartniorobaze
uari Tqves. arada, qveynebSi 600 milioni evros Rirebulebis 5-wliani proeqtis dawyebas vapirebdiT, Tumca `fokusniki~ saakaSvilis ZalisxmeviT, es gegmebi
Cagvivarda.
_ migaCniaT, rom amitom daiwyo omi?.. Tu taliavinis daskvnas
daveyrdnobiT, ruseTis mier SeiaraRebuli provokacia wlebis
ganmavlobaSi igegmeboda...
_ me ar vambob, rom saakaSvilma
amitom daiwyo omi, magram am proeqtebis Cagdebac gaTvlili hqonda. didi
finansuri zarali miviReT. magram es
proeqti isev rCeba ZalaSi... qarTul
mxares uWirs imis aRiareba, rom danarCen msofliosTan urTierTobis
gamocdileba ara aqvs. Tqveni politikosebi amerikis frTas Sefarebuli qveynis poziciidan saubroben, rac evropas aRizianebs (evropasa da amerikas
Sexmatkbilebuli urTierToba arasdros hqoniaT da arc axla aqvT).
saqarTvelo patara qveyanaa da maT Soris
lavireba ar SeuZlia. verc ruseTTan
da amerikasTan SeZlo dabalansebuli
urTierTobis SenarCuneba, raSic, umwifari diplomatiis garda, geografiulma mdebareobamac SeuSala xeli... ase
rom, evrosabWos meqanizmebze saubari,
romelic Turme ruseTs emuqreba, araseriozulia. am SemTxvevaSi evropas arCevanis gakeTeba mouwevs _ darCes erTguli saerTaSoriso samarTlebrivi
principebisa, romelic sinamdvileSi mxolod simbolur xasiaTs atarebs, da
sibneleSi icxovros, Tu ruseTis pozi-
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gza
ciasac gauwios angariSi, rasac akeTebs
kidec... diax, Cven vaRiareT afxazeTisa
da samxreT oseTis damoukidebloba,
magram ase mxolod mas Semdeg moviqeciT,
rac saakaSvilis xelisuflebam samxreT
oseTis ZaliT SemoerTeba gadawyvita.
es aris axali realoba, romlis uaryofasac ar vapirebT, radgan es sakuTari moqalaqeebis winaSe aRebul valdebulebaze uaris Tqmas niSnavs... asambleaSi debatebis dawyebamde britanelma diplomatma havai klinsma miTxra: agvistos omis
Semdeg britanelma
diplomatebma iCqares
da ruseTs `borotebis imperia~ uwodes, saqarTvelos ki _ `udanaSaulo msxverpli~, magram TandaTan yvelaferi
gairkva da axla Tqven
Soris angariSi 5:0-ia
Tqvens sasargeblodo.
`kvalze~
_
taliavinis
komisiis wevrTa pirad
angariSebze
`gazpromis~ finansur
alaparakdnen...
_ roca evropeli diplomatebis
mosyidvaze saubroben, araseriozulia.
rogorc Cans, qarTveli kolegebi mxolod rusi diplomatebis reputaciis
Selaxvas ar dasjerdnen. maxsovs saakaSvilis gamosvla, sadac man evropel diplomatebze gailaSqra da buSi-ufrosis sityvebi gamaxsenda, romliTac man
damoukidebeli saqarTvelos pirvel
prezidents, gamsaxurdias mimarTa: dinebis sawinaaRmdegod midixarTo... anu ra
gamodis? _ saakaSvilma warsulis Secdomebze veraferi iswavla. es ruseTisTvisac cudia: ruseTs ar unda,
hyavdes arastabiluri mezobeli, romelic okeanisgaRmel saxelmwifosTan Cven
sawinaaRmdego intrigebs xlarTavs.
swored buSi-umcrosis briyvulma
politikam miiyvana Tqveni xelisufleba
pirveli gasrolis gadawyvetilebamde.
kidev kargi, amerikas axla bevrad ufro
gonieri lideri hyavs. barak obama xvdeba, rom moskovis daxmarebis gareSe,
dasavleTi msoflio masStabis verc erT
konfliqts ver moagvarebs. ase rom,
realuri suraTi aseTia: saqarTvelo
damokidebulia dasavleTze, dasavleTi ki _ ruseTze da qarTulma mxarem
Tvali ar unda daxuWos imaze, rom
patara saqarTvelos gamo ruseTTan
urTierTobas aravin gaifuWebs.
qarTveli diplomatebis TqmiT,
ruseTis delegaciis xisti qmedebebi
evropeli kolegebisTvis sruliad miuRebeli iyo. ra xdeboda evrosabWos
kuluarebSi, rogor afasebdnen `gajiutebuli daTvis~ pozicias evropeli diplomatebi _ amis Sesaxeb qarTuli delegaciis wevrebi mogviTxroben.
goka gabaSvili, saparlamento
umravlesobis wevri:
_ evrosabWos rusuli delegaciis warmomadgenlebTan saubari ar
gvqonia; azri arc hqonda, radgan
winaswar vicodiT, ras gvetyodnen.
rusi diplomatebis pozicia zedmiwevniT imeorebs im instruqciebs,
romelsac dumidan da sagareo saqmeTa saministrodan aZleven... samagierod,
yvela fraqciis warmomadgenel evropel kolegebsa da sxvadasxva qveynis
delegacias SevxvdiT da sakmaod produqtiuli kontaqti gvqonda.
_
konkretulad?
_ vesaubre germanel, italiel, britanel diplomatebs da erTmniSvnelovnad minda aRvniSno, rom isini
ruseTis qmedebebiT gaocebuli iyvnen.
gansakuTrebiT Tbili Sexvedrebi gvqonda baltiispireTis qveynebis warmomadgenlebTan, polonelebTanac, romlebic
ruseTis mimarT gacilebiT radikalurebi iyvnen. ori ZiriTadi pozicia gamoikveTa: ucxoeli kolegebis erTi nawili miiCnevda, rom evrosabWos winaSe
nakisri valdebulebebis Sesasruleblad,
rusebisTvis bolo Sansi migveca, meore nawilis azriT ki _ arc saboloo vadis micemas hqonda azri. anu
orive nawili im azris iyo, rom ruseTi ar aris marTali da diskusia arc
ki imarTeboda. ufro metsac getyviT:
evrosabWos TiTqmis yvela wevri erTxmad da dananebiT ambobda _ rogorc
tribunidan, aseve piradi saubrisas, _
rom ruseTi evrosabWos mier miRebul
rezoluciebs arc asrulebs da amis
survili arc aqvs.
_ sainteresoa, ra xdeboda
sxdomaTa darbazSi, roca ruseTisTvis xmis micemis uflebis
CamorTmevis sakiTxi ixileboda?
_ darbazSi myofTa umravlesoba
miiCnevda, rom saqarTvelos problemebi calke sakiTxad unda ganxiluliyo.
saubaria konfliqtis zonaSi samSvidoboebis SeSvebaze, sazRvrebis gaxsnaze da sxva. piradi saubrebisa da oficialuri gamosvlebis dros evropeli
deputatebi araorazrovnad acxadebdnen, rom saqarTvelo marTalia da ruseTis xisti pozicia rogorme TandaTan,
diplomatiurad unda Seicvalos.
_ ramdenad raealisturad
warmoudgeniaT es evropel diplomatebs, miT umetes, rom ruseTi vadis amowurvis Semdegac ar
apirebs poziciis Secvlas?
_ pirdapir getyviT _ evropeli
kolegebis TqmiT, ruseTze zewolis
erTaderTi meqanizmi evrosabWos organizaciis xelTaa, miT umetes, rom
miseuli SantaJis politikis Sesaxeb
yvelas moexseneba. rusi diplomatebi
grZnobdnen aseT damokidebulebas da
maTTvis damaxasiaTebeli agresiulobiT acxadebdnen, _ Tu zewolas gaa-
konfliqti
ZlierebT, evrosabWos davtovebTo. Cemi
yuriT maqvs mosmenili, Tu raoden
gacecxlebuli ambobda am sityvebs evrosabWoSi ruseTis mudmivi warmomadgeneli vladimir CiJovi.
_ evrosabWodan ruseTis garicxvis SemTxvevaSi, momavalSi misgan safrTxe gaizrdeba?
_ diax da evrosabWos deputatebis
umravlesoba winaaRmdegia ruseTis garicxvisa. rogorc ki es moxdeba, is bevrad ufro agresiuli da saSiSi gaxdeba... evropeli deputatebis erT nawils
sifrTxile piradi saubrebis drosac
Sevatyve; ufro Tamami deputatebi ambobdnen, _ jobs, evrosabWom erTxel
da samudamod, simkacre gamoiCinos, bolomde Tanamimdevruli iyos da ruseTs
ukan davaxevinoT, radgan saqme saqarTvelosa da ruseTs Soris arsebul
problemebs ki ara, aramed organizaciis avtoritets exebao... ar minda, davakonkreto, magram ramdenime diplomati
mxrebs iCeCda: aseTi diskusiebis dros
cxadi xdeba, rom ruseTi namdvili diplomatiisgan jer kidev Sors ariso...
isic iTqva, _ aqvs Tu ara azri evrosabWos, rogorc organizaciis muSaobaso?.. da kidev: maSin, roca ruseTi
xmaTa umravlesobiT miRweul SeTanxmebas
arafrad agdebs, SeuZlia Tu ara, romelime qveyanas raime valdebulebis Sesruleba mosTxovoso?!.
giorgi TargamaZe, qristiandemokratebis lideri:
_ ramdenime qveynis delegacia ruseTis mimarT mkacri politikis gatarebis momxrea. es is qveynebia, romlebic
tradiciulad, mis mimarT xisti damokidebulebiT gamoirCevian, rac maTi
geografiuli siaxloviT aris ganpirobebuli. evropeli deputatebi iumoriTac ki ambobdnen: rac ufro axlos xar
ruseTTan, ufro meti problema gaqvso... rac Seexeba danarCeni qveynebis ganwyobilebas, _ arc erT deputats ar
uTqvams, rom ruseTi masze dakisrebul
movaleobas asrulebs. isinic ki, vinc am
qveynisadmi loialurad arian ganwyobili, mis advokatobas ver bedavdnen,
Tumca ambobdnen, _ ruseTs xmis ufleba ar unda CamovarTvaTo, _ arc imas
malavdnen, rom CixSi arian Sesuli.
_
ruseTs am organizaciaSi iRebdnen,
evropeli politikosebi imedovnebdnen,
rom am saxelmwifos, evropis politikur-samarTlebriv sistemaSi integrireba moxdeboda da ruseTSi adamianis uflebaTa dacvis kuTxiT viTareba gamoswordeboda. axla aRniSnaven,
rom maSindeli evropeli politikosebis es imedi ar gamarTlda.
_ da mainc, evropis aRmosavleTi nawili ufro radikaluri
iyo, vidre dasavleTi?
_ obieqturad, cudi da kargi nawili ar arsebobs, aris centraluri da
dasavleT evropa, romelsac ruseTTan
pirdapiri urTierTobis naklebi
gamocdileba aqvT. aRmosavleT evropa
_ e.w. `axali evropa~ cota xnis win
gaTavisuflda `varSavis xelSekrulebis~ marwuxebidan, amitomac misi damokidebuleba Zalian radikaluria. magram
isic unda aRvniSno, rom ruseTis mimarT espaneTis delegaciac Zalze mkacri iyo; imaves vityvi britanelebze, miuxedavad imisa, rom mis deputaciaSi
iyo ramdenime deputati, romelic prorusuli ganwyobilebiT gamoirCeoda.
ruseTisTvis xmis uflebis CamorTmevasa da uflebamosilebis Sewyvetas germanulma delegaciamac moawera xeli. erTerTma germanelma deputatma, ruseTTan
omis Sedegad dazaralebuli Cveni devnilebis mdgomareobis Sesaxebac ki
mkiTxa... rogorc velodiT, aqtiurad
gviWerdnen mxars poloneTisa da baltiispireTis qveynebi. ase rom, asambleis
gaxsnamde darbazSi `diplomatiuri
duRili~ SeiniSneboda... realobaze
Tvalis daxuWvas ar vapirebT da vaRiareb, rom ruseTis mimarT racionaluri interesebi arsebobs. magram deputatebis TqmiT, arsebobs `wiTeli xazi~,
romlis miRmac nebismieri dainteresebis SemTxvevaSi, evropas loialuri
pozicia ar eqneba.
qveyana
_ batono giorgi, debatebis
dawyebamde Tu gqondaT saSualeba, romelime rus kolegas gasaubrebodiT?
_ amasTan dakavSirebiT, erTi ambavi minda, mogiyveT: axals arafers
vityvi imis aRniSvniT, rom rus politikosebs saqarTvelo calkeul regionebad daSlili warmoudgeniaT. evrosabWos debatebis dawyebamde erT-erTi
rusi deputatis saubari movismine, ucxoel kolegebs saqarTvelosTan dakavSirebiT Tavis mosazrebebs uziarebda.
maT saubarSi Caverie, magram roca misi
argumentebi movismine, mivxvdi _ kamaTis gagrZelebas azri ar hqonda... am
sakiTxTan dakavSirebiT, ruseTis xelisuflebasa da dumis opozicia erTmaneTisgan ar gansxvavdeba. vesaubre
opoziciis im mcire nawils, romelic
evrosabWos delegaciaSi dumis saxeliT
ar iyo warmodgenili. es adamianebi
medvedev-putinis politikas emijnebian.
erT-erTma maTganma, arSianovma Cveni
sakiTxis ganxilvamde evrosabWoSi oficialuri sajaro gancxadebac gaakeTa
da ruseTis delegaciisTvis xmis uflebis CamorTmevis iniacitiviTac gamovida. man pirdapir mimarTa evropel deputatebs mowodebiT, Tvali ar daexuWaT ruseTis agresiul qmedebebze...
_ Tqveni varaudiT, ramdenad
realuria imis Sansi, rom evrosabWos ukiduresad mwvave zewolis SemTxvevaSi, ruseTis politikaSi raime Seicvalos?
_ gavixsenoT arcTu ise didi xnis
winandeli istoria: Tavis droze, dasavleTis gonivruli brZolisa da grZelvadiani politikis Sedegad, sabWoTa
kavSirs seriozul daTmobebze wasvla
mouxda. aseve gadamwyveti roli iTamaSa reiganisa da teTCeris mizanmimarTulma qmedebebma. ase rom, imedi, ra
Tqma unda, arsebobs...
ratom?
_ imitom, rom ruseTis delegacia
pirdapir acxadebda, rom evrosabWos
valdebulebebis Sesrulebas ar apirebs
da damatebiTi vadis mocemas azri ar
hqonda...
_ am
rCeba?
SemTxvevaSi
ra
gza
_ Tu ruseTi kvlavac gaagrZelebs
dasavleTis ignorirebas, evrosabWo mis
mimarT garkveul sanqciebs gaatarebs...
aRsaniSnavia, rom amjerad saqme mxolod
ruseT-saqarTvelos urTierTobiT ar
Semoifargleba, axla ukve TviT evrosabWos avtoritetis sakiTxi dgas... roca
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qveyana
daijesti
nikola sarkozi Svils `qaCavs~
safrangeTis prezidents nepotizmSi adanaSauleben. man Tavisi
23 wlis vaJi, mesamekurseli Jani
evropaSi yvelaze msxvili saqmiani kvartalis _ la-defansis
mmarTveli saxelmwifo uwyebis xelmZRvanelad daniSna. erTi wliT adre Jani otsde-senis saqalaqo sabWos
wevric gaxda da mamis partiis adgilobriv ganyofilebas Caudga saTaveSi. amieridan Jani la-defansis gafarToebis programas gauZRveba, romlisTvisac mravali
milioni evroa gamoyofili.
opoziciuri socialisturi
partiis mesveurTa azriT,
Janis daniSvna mmarTveli
partiis gamgeblobis qveS axali
regionis _ `didi parizis~ Seqmnis sarkoziseuli gegmis erT-erTi
nawilia.
The Times
ram daangria berlinis kedeli
poloneTis profkavSirma `solidarobam~, sabWoTa kavSiris `perestroikam~, reiganis TavdacviTma
iniciativam, laifcigis mSvidobianma demonstraciebma da locvebma... kedelma, romelic germanias 3
aTeul welze metxans yofda, swored
am movlenebs ver gauZlo.
ar unda dagvaviwydes, rom 1989
wlis germaniis revolucia ruseTSi
momxdari revoluciis nawili da
Sedegia. mizezi ki, sabWoTa kavSiris imperiuli rkalidan centraluri segmentis amovardnis
garda, isicaa, rom kremli ar Caeria movlenebSi, romelTa Tavidan
acilebac mxolod tankebiT SeiZleboda. rogorc sabWoTa kavSiris
maSindelma sagareo saqmeTa ministrma eduard SevardnaZem Jurnalist peter bioniSs gaando, 1989
wlis noemberSi saubari `germaniis gaerTianeba-argaerTianebaze ki
ara, germanul erTianobasa da atomur oms Soris arCevanze~ iyo.
ratom ar SeuSales xeli movlenebis ganviTarebas gorbaCovma da
misma TanamebrZolebma?
maT xom icodnen, rom germaniis demokratiul respublikaSi ganlagebuli
20 elituri diviziis
gareSe qveyanaSi xelisuflebis SenarCuneba SeuZlebeli iyo! ratom ar
ganmeorda 1956 wlis ungreTisa da 1968 wlis Cexoslovakiis scenarebi?
imitom, rom dro Seicvala da imperia `zemodan ganxorcielebul
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#42 15.10.2009
gza
revolucias~ unda exsna. specsamsaxurebmac da armiamac amitom
dauWires mxari `glastnostsa~ da
`perestroikas~. endSpili polonuri moZraoba `solidarobiT~ anda
SeiZleba, ronald reiganis `strategiuli TavdacviTi iniciativiTac~ daiwyo; gadamwyveti momenti
albaT, 1989 wels, avstria-ungreTis sazRvris gaxsnisas dadga; dasasrulis mauwyeblad ki im movlenebis jaWvi iqca, romelTac aRmosavleT berlinSi, ge-de-eris meormoce da ukanasknel iubileze
gorbaCovis pirquSma vizitma daudo saTave. `dagvianebulebs cxovreba sjis~, _ ganacxada maSin gorbaCovma telekamerebis win da
amjerad yvelaferma sabWoTa tankebis gareSe Caiara. sxva danarCeni
ki marTlac, saocrebas hgavda. germaniis erTiani socialisturi
partiis uSiSroebis organoebi xom
yvelafers elodnen, sanTlebis,
locvebisa da araZaladobrivi winaaRmdegobis garda...
Die Welt
mecnierTa
mxileba
israelis premier-ministrma, beniamin neTaniahum kremls
im rus mecnierTa sia gadasca,
romlebic, israelis versiiT,
irans birTvuli qobinis SeqmnaSi exmarebian. arsebuli cnobebiT, ruseTisTvis am siis gadacema seqtemberSi, moskovSi
neTaniahus saidumlo vizitisa da putinTan da medvedevTan
molaparakebebis dros moxda.
`gavigeT, rom neTaniahu siiTa
da konkretuli mtkicebulebebiT xeldamSvenebuli Camovida, romlebic rusebis mier
iranisTvis bombis SeqmnaSi
daxmarebas adasturebs, _ ganacxada ruseTis federaciis
Tavdacvis ministrTan daaxloebulma wyarom. _ vizitis
ambavs saidumlod ki imitom
inaxavdnen, rom misi mizani _
uxerxul mdgomareobaSi moskovis Cayeneba ki ara, misTvis
samoqmedo biZgis micema iyo~.
aSS-isa da didi britaneTis
oficialuri pirebis gancxadebiT, iranul programaSi rus
mecnier-frilanserTa monawileoba warsuls Cahbarda. Tumca
erTi wlis win `magatem~ (birTvul programebze zedamxedvelobis saerTaSoriso organizacia) mainc seriozuli SeSfoTeba gamoTqva `im rusi specialistebis gamo, romlebic
ruseTis xelisuflebis Tanxmobis gareSe moqmedeben~. israelis warmomadgenelTa mtkicebiT ki `iranSi rus mecnierebs mxolod TavianTi xelisuflebis oficialuri Tanxmobis Semdeg SeuZliaT muSaoba~... zogierTi wyaros cnobiT, amerikis saxelmwifo mdivnis mrCeveli birTvuli iaraRis gauvrceleblobisa da
SeiaraRebis kontrolis sakiTxebSi, robert eihorni miiCnevs, rom rusuli kompaniebi
irans balistikuri raketebis
dasamzadebel masalebs awvdidnen; dasavleli eqspertebi ki
varaudoben, rom qobinis SeqmnaSi SesaZloa, CrdiloeT koreac iyos CarTuli.
The Sunday Times
daijesti
qveyana
putini `memorialis~ winaaRmdeg
uflebadacviTi centri
`memoriali~ ruseTis premier-ministris, `saerTo
erovnuli liderisa~ da
`kagebes yofili polkovnikis, vladimir putinis samizned iqca. misi azriT, msgavsi samoqalaqo organizaciebi `mxolod qveynis imijs
Tu azianeben~, `samSoblos
mtrebi~ arian da, dasavleTis daxmarebiT, `wminda ruseTis~ ganadgureba surT.
rac Seexeba adamianis uflebebis darRvevas, _ msgavs
`ramerumeebze~ ruseTSi saerTod, ar laparakoben. putini amas, yovelwliurad,
`Cekas~ dabadebis dRis SampanuriT aRniSvnas amjobinebs, saxelmZRvaneloebSi
stalinis reabilitirebas axdens,
`did terors~ industrializaciis warmatebebiT amarTlebs,
represiebze monacemebis Semcvel
arqivebs xuravs, armias wiTel
droSas, ruseTs ki sabWoTa kavSiris gadakeTebul himns ubrunebs...
`mas Semdeg, rac xelisuflebis
saTaveSi vladimir putini movida, ori aTeuli Jurnalisti, maT
Soris, erTi amerikeli `saidumloebiT mocul viTarebaSi~ mokles. bolo ori msxverpli ki,
romelmac amis Sesaxeb sajarod
ganacxada, `ugzo-ukvlod daikarga~... ruseTSi ukve marto adamianis uflebebs ki ara, maT yvelaze
ufro cnobil damcvelebzec miitanes ieriSi.
axmed gisaevi `memorialSi~ samuSaod imisTvis mivida, rom danaSauli, romelic man 2003 wels
gadaitana, dausjeli ar darCeniliyo. CeCnuri warmoSobis ruseTis am moqalaqem sakuTar Tavze
gadaitana is, rasac winasaarCevno
kampaniisas `faseulobebis diplomatiaze~ esoden didxans mosaubre
nikola sarkozim `adamianis uflebebis sferoSi ruseTis specifika~ uwoda. gazi, navTobi, perspeqtiuli rusuli bazari da gaeros
uSiSroebis sabWoSi vetos ufleba xom `faseulobebisTvis~ sruliad ucxo, magram friad udavo
sabuTebia... axmed gisaevi 2003 wels
miliciisa da ef-es-bes warmomadgenlebma moitaces, 15 dRis ganmavlobaSi sastikad awamebdnen da
mxolod mas Semdeg gaaTavisufles,
rac naTesavebma gamosasyidi gada-
ixades. gisaevis TqmiT, misi mwameblebi rusulad uaqcentod laparakobdnen, es ki im farTod gavrcelebul versias ewinaaRmdegeba,
romlis Tanaxmadac, yvela sisastikes mxolod da mxolod prezident ramzan kadirovis prorusuli xelisufleba sCadis. axmed gisaevi dRemde
mtkicedaa
darwmunebuli, rom `aseT
gadawyvetilebebs CeCneTSi
ki ara, moskovSi iReben~...
samSvidoboze
gamosvlis Semdeg, gisaevma
adamianis uflebaTa evropul sasamarTlos mimarTa.
magram im SemTxvevaSic ki,
Tu process
m oi g e b s d a
ramdenime aTas evrosac gadauxdian, gisaevisTvis
saSinelebebi
mainc ar dasruldeba: rusebma xom gasagebad auxsnes, rom misi
dapatimreba
mxolod da mxolod `Secdoma~ iyo. kidev erTi aseTi `Secdomis~ msxverpli
_ `memorialis~ amJamindeli xelmZRvaneli, oleg
orlovi gaxda. 2007 wlis
noemberSi, is da adamianebis gauCinarebis, wamebisa da sikvdiliT dasjis
winaaRmdeg gamarTuli
demonstraciis gasaSuqeblad nazranSi Casuli 2
Jurnalisti kamuflaJianma
adamianebma SuaRamisas
loginidan wamoyares, win
cema-tyebiT gairekes da
daTovlil mindorze gaxdilebi datoves. rusulad uaqcentod mosaubre
kamuflaJianebma orlovi
da misi Tanmxlebni araorazrovnad gaafrTxiles, _ `sxva
dros~ uaresi dagemarTebaTo...
Le Nouvel Observateur
gza #42 15.10.2009
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qveyana
daijesti
frang ministrs Zveli codvebi gauxsenes
safrangeTSi kulturis ministr frederik miteranTan dakavSirebuli politikuri skandali
mwifdeba. ministri
`biWunebis~ fasiani
seqsualuri momsaxurebiT sargeblobaSi amxiles, ris Semdegac is, sakuTari
reputaciis gadarCenasTan erTad, mTavrobaSi adgilis SenarCunebasac yvelanairad cdilobs. 62 wlis miterans sakuTari
homoseqsualuri orientacia arc
arasdros daumalavs. ufro metic _ avtobiografiul wignSi
La mauvaise vie (`cudi cxovreba~),
sxvasTan erTad, imasac daufaravad hyveba, Tu bangkokis bordelebSi rogor dadioda: `Cvevad meqca biWunebisTvis fulis
gadaxda... axalgazrda, Zalian
mimzidveli da xelmisawvdomi biWebis simravlem Jini gamiZliera, radgan aRarc raimeze uaris Tqma da aRarc raimes dafarva mWirdeboda~, _ wers igi wignSi. kritikosTa TqmiT, 2005 wels
La mauvaise vie bestselerad iqca.
Tumca mas Semdeg, rac avtori
roman polanskis gamoesarCla
(cnobili reJisori 30 wlis win,
13 wlis gogonasTan seqsisTvis
aris dapatimrebuli), wignic mis
winaaRmdeg warmatebiT gamoiyenes.
axlaxan, ultramemarjvene partia `nacionaluri frontis~
wevrma, marin le penma miteranis wignidan nawyvetebi televiziiT waikiTxa da ministris
saswrafo gadadgomac moiTxova.
misi partia ki umal msgavsi mowodebis Semcvel peticiaze xelmowerebis Segrovebasac Seudga. `nacionalistebs~ arc socialistebis umsxvilesi opoziciuri partia CamorCa da gakvirveba ver dafara, _ aSkara
pedofils ministris postze ra
undao?! miteranma ki sapasuxo
dartyma ar daaxana da ganacxa-
da, _ eqstremistTa
samizned viqecio.
`socialistebis damokidebulebam SokSi Camagdo... Tu talaxSi `nacionaluri fronti~ miTrevs,
CemTvis es mxolod
pativia, magram Tu
amas memarcxene parlamentari akeTebs,
mas unda rcxvenodes~,
_ dasZina Serisxulma ministrma. miteranis TanaSemweTa TqmiT, aseTi TavdasxmebisTvis is gaministrebis pirveli dReebidanve emzadeboda. TumcaRa, _ dasZenen isini, _ gaTvla imaze keTdeboda,
rom ministrs sajaro pirebis kerZo cxovrebaSi Caurevlobis franguli tradicia daicavda. tradicia _ tradiciad, magram rogorc
Cans, miteranis mrCevlebma internetis faqtori da pedofilebTan
dakavSirebuli sazogadoebrivi
azri saerTod aRar gaiTvaliswines. cnobisaTvis _ miteranis
biZas, eqsprezident fransua miterans wlebis manZilze meore ojaxi
da ukanono qaliSvilic hyavda,
rasac TiTqmis gadadgomamde malavda.
The Times
dauWers Tu ara evropa mxars bleris gaprezidentebas
evropeli diplomatebi da analitikosebi irwmunebian, rom didi
britaneTis yofili premier-ministri toni bleri evrokavSiris
prezidentis arCevnebTan dakavSirebuli kampaniis udavo favoriti iqneba da 5 umsxvilesi evropuli saxelmwifos mxardaWerasac
moipovebs. bleriviT `atlantisti~, safrangeTis prezidenti nikola sarkozi mas mxars uTuod
dauWers. aseve moiqceva eqspremieris Zveli mokavSire _ italieli kolega silvio berluskonic.
mravalTa gasaocrad, bleris mxarezea espaneTis socialisti lideri xose luis sapateroc. is
Zalian afasebs daxmarebas, romelic blerma separatistul meamboxe
organizacia `etasTan~ brZolisas
aRmouCina. gansakuTrebiT mniSvnelovani _ germaniis, am umsxvilesi evropuli ekonomikis mqone
qveynis xmaa. rogorc amboben, federalur arCevnebSi gamarjvebam-
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#42 15.10.2009
gza
de, germaniis kancleri angela merkeli bleris kandidaturas didi
xalisiT rodi ekideboda. magram
axla merkeli ukve memarjvene-centristuli mTavrobis meTauria da
sul Tavisuflad SeuZlia, erayis
omSi bleris rolis gamkicxvel
social-demokratebs angariSi
saerTod aRar gauwios. `am sakiTxSi germaniis azri Zalze mniSvnelovania, _ ganacxada evropuli reformebis centris warmomadgenelma, Carlz grantma. _
bleri yvelafers miiRebs, Tu germania mis SeCerebas ar gadawyvets,
anda patara saxelmwifoebi misi
konkurentis mxardasaWerad ar
gaerTiandebian... blers aseve SeiZleba, rumineTisa da bulgareTis
imedic hqondes: 2004 wels xom man
aqtiurad dauWira mxari am qveynebis natoSi Sesvlas. aseTi saxelmwifoebis rigSi centraluri
rubrika
evropis sxva qveynebic (magaliTad,
CexeTi) dganan~, _ miaCnia grants.
danarCen predendentTa Soris arian: espaneTis yofili premier-ministri felipe gonsalesi, holandiis premieri ian peter balkenende da paalo liponeni, romelmac fineTis premierobisas, es
tradiciulad neitraluri qveyana evrokavSirSi Seiyvana. evrokavSiris Tavmjdomareobis pretenzia belgiel da luqsemburgel
politikosebsac aqvT. Tumca analitikosebis mtkicebiT, toni bleris donis saerTaSoriso reputaciiTa da gamocdilebiT, agreTve,
iseTi mowesrigebuli urTierTobiT, rogoric mas amerikis, ruseTisa da CineTis liderebTan aqvs,
verc erTi sxva kandidati ver
daikvexnis.
The Guardian
moamzada
rusudan lebaniZem
saxe
ram
SeiZleba,
aatiros
Tavisuflebismoyvare
kristi
_ deda albaT ufro mkacri iyo...
model kristis avlabarSi,
mamiseul saxlSi vestumreT.
mis oTaxSi komfortisTvis
aucilebeli nivTebia: sawoli, telefoni, kompiuteri,
savarZeli... gansakuTrebiT
telefoni da kompiuteri
uyvars _ imdenad, rom
TiToeulis gafuWebam SesaZloa, Tvalze cremlic ki
gauCinos. samagierod, advilad itans fizikur
tkivils. bavSvi ise gavaCine,
cremli arc gadmomvardniao,
_ CvenTan saubrisas aRniSna kristim...
nino mWediliSvili
_ am saxlSi davibade da gavizarde. Zalian kargad maxsovs Cemi
pataraoba. celqi ar vyofilvar, wynari, gawonasworebuli bavSvi viyavi.
ojaxis wevrebs aranair problemas
ar vuqmnidi; arc xifaTiani vyofilvar, yovelTvis vfrTxilobdi, pataraobaSi arc ki wavqceulvar.
_
velosipedi
gqonda?
_ velosipedi _ mere, cota rom
wamovizarde. baRis periodSi wigne-
bi miyvarda, wera-kiTxvas vswavlobdi. sanam skolaSi mividodi, anbani
ukve vicodi. wignebi, CanTaSi Tojinebi, mZivebi da kidev bevri uazro
`xaraxura~ meyara, romelsac sadac mivdiodi, yvelgan Tan davaTrevdi. kargad maxsovs xisZiriani saboebi, romelsac xSirad vicvamdi da yvelas Tavi
stkioda im saboebis bakuniT. yvela
is adgili maxsovs, sadac mSoblebs
zafxulobiT dasasveneblad mivyavdi.
maxsovs soxumi, aseve gagra, iq didi
gemi da masze ganTavsebuli restorani, sadac xSirad davdiodiT.
_ Seni mSoblebi
fesiisani arian?
ra
pro-
_ Cemma mSoblebma Zalian adreul
asakSi Seqmnes ojaxi, 17 wlisani iyvnen.
amis gamo dedam profesiad diasaxlisoba airCia, 19 wlisas ukve me vyavdi da Tavi Svilebs miuZRvna. Zalian
kargi dedaa da axla ukve _ kargi
bebia. Cemi Svili, faqtobrivad, misi
gazrdilia. marTalia, Cemi Svilia,
magram ZiriTadad misi gavlenis qveSaa. dedaCemis sityvas, natalia ar
gadava. mama warsulSi biznesmeni iyo,
axla cotas avadmyofobs.
_
dedmamiSvilebi
gyavs?
_ erTi da myavs, lika, romelic
23 wlisaa. gaTxovilia.
_ mkacri ki ara, dedaCemi tanjvaa
(icinis). ukve 32 wlis var da dRemde
makontrolebs, dReSi ramdenjerme
mirekavs, sad var, rogor var, magram
imitom ki ara, rom rames davaSaveb,
imitom, rom TviTon iyos mSvidad.
mama piriqiTaa, bavSvobidan yvelgan
miSvebda... me sxvanairad vzrdi Cems
Svils, vcdilob, araferSi SevzRudo, magram natalia dedaCems mainc ver
ascda. ase rom, deda axla nataliaze
zrunviTaa dakavebuli. imdenadaa nataSkaze gadarTuli, xandaxan mec ki
vaviwydebi (icinis). Tavidan, modeloba rom daviwye, saagentoSi deda damyveboda, axalgazrda iyo da msiamovnebda kidec masTan erTad siaruli. ver
ityodi, rom deda-Svili viyaviT.
_
di?
romel
skolaSi
dadio-
_ Cems saxlTan axlos, 78-e skolaSi davdiodi; rusuli skola iyo. skola rom davamTavre, ucxo enebze ilia
WavWavaZis saxelobis institutSi Cavabare. modeloba imave wels daviwye.
_ oriani migiRia skolaSi?
_ rogor ar mimiRia! iyo sagnebi,
romlebic ar momwonda da ar vswavlobdi. humanitaruli sagnebi miyvarda da maT kargadac vswavlobdi. erTi
maswavlebeli gvyavda, romelic gakveTilze laparakis gamo orianebs usamarTlod werda. bevri aseTi `usamarTlo oriani~ mqonda miRebuli,
gza #42 15.10.2009
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saxe
fsiqoportreti
_ me da nataliam fotoebi boSur formebSi gadaviReT, Zalian
kargi seria gamovida. natalia Zalze bednieri
iyo.
_
sarkis
win
triali rodis daiwye?
_ sxvaTa Soris,
Zalian gvian. axla 13-15
wlis gogoebs rom
vuyureb, gaocebuli
var, tuSi da `pomada~
pirvel Cvenebamde ar wamisvams. 32 wlis var da
dRemde sportulad
vicvam, ufro komfortulad vgrZnob
Tavs. makiaJsa da varcxnilobas mxolod aucileblobis SemTxvevaSi
vikeTeb.
_ Tumca, Cemi
kolegebisgan
msmenia, kristi rom podiumze
gamodis,
Zalian bevr
models Crdilavso.
am qorwinebas
Zalian kargi
Sedegi mohyva _
Cemi natalia
amas Zalian ganvicdidi da maT maleve
vasworebdi.
_ scenaze pirvelad rodis
gamoxvedi?
_ es sabavSvo baRSi moxda, saidanac filarmoniis scenaze movxvdi.
baRebs Soris konkursi iyo cekvaSi.
maxsovs, ukrainuli cekvis nomeri mqonda da Zalian mixaroda did scenaze
gamosvla. mere, skolaSi speqtaklebs
vdgamdiT da erTxel zRapar `repkaSi~ bebiis roli viTamaSe. yvelaze
STambeWdavi gamosvla axal wels,
oficerTa saxlSi mqonda: boSa qali
viyavi, Zalian lamazi kaba mecva da
Tovlis papasTan Cemi iniciativiT
boSuri vicekve. am siTamamisTvis gansxvavebuli saCuqari davimsaxure. Zalian
bednieri viyavi.
_ xasiaTiT Tu hgavxar boSas? Tavisuflebis motrfiale
xar?
_ ar vici, boSebs rogori xasiaTi aqvT, magram Tavisufleba miyvars... minda, Cemi saxli, Cemi kuTxe
mqondes da Tavisuflebas vgrZnobde,
SezRuduli arc axla var, magram...
sxvaTa Soris, wels Cemma Svilma gadawyvita, boSas damsgavseboda, boSurad
Caicva. im dRes stumrad Cemi megobari
fotografi gvyavda da ideac gaCnda:
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gza
_ marTla?! didi
madloba. albaT imis
gamoa, rom qalurad
Cacma menatreba xolme
(icinis).
_ Sens xasiaTze
visaubroT, advilad
iReb gadawyvetilebebs, Tu didxans fiqrob, sanam nabijs gadadgamde?
_ Zalian didxans vfiqrob, wvrilmanebzec ki. magaliTad, saCuqars rom
vyidulob, karga xans vdgavar maRaziaSi da ver vwyvet, viyido Tu _
ara. CemTvis Tu rames vyidulob, es
serTod `koSmaria~.
_ roca Txovdebodi,
nac bevri ifiqre?
maSi-
_ maSin aravin araferi mkiTxa da...
am Temaze laparaki ar minda. arafers
vnanob, am qorwinebas Zalian kargi
Sedegi mohyva _ Cemi natalia. Tumca,
yvelaferi arastandartulad moxda,
jer momitaces, mere qorwili mqonda...
_
meore
qorwineba?
_ jer kidev meore qorwinebaSi
vimyofebi, jvari ki aviyareT, magram
xeli isev mowerili gvaqvs.
_ Cemi mxridan uxerxuli Tu ar
iqneba, vityvi, rom kargi. natalias
movlasTan dakavSirebiT me, dedaCemsa
da giorgis (yifSiZe) dedas funqciebi ganawilebuli gvaqvs. Cems gasakeTebels pirnaTlad vasruleb. bavSvs
bevri momvleli hyavs da aqedan gamomdinare, Tu Zalian ar gamabraza,
ar vuwyrebi. vcdilob, ar vawyenino.
jiuti bavSvi ar aris, mTavaria, rogor
miudgebi. vcdilob, masTan vimegobro.
ise, didi, `vasasia~, skolaSi yvelaze
yvelaferi icis _ vis vin uyvars da
a.S. TviTon mgoni, jer ar aris Seyvarebuli.
_ Seni
teresdeba?
cxovrebiT
Tu
in-
_ Zalian uyvars Cemi megobrebi,
yvelaferi icis Cemze, visTan vurTierTob, vis mimarT var keTilganwyobili... magram Cem mimarT eWviani ar
aris. Cemi da rom gaTxovda, Zalian
inerviula, magram CemTan dakavSirebiT
aseTi ram ar gamouxatavs. piriqiT,
axla ambobs, kristi unda gaTxovdeso...
unda, rom hyavdes da an Zma. icis, sxva
SemTxvevaSi ar eyoleba (icinis).
_
depresiuli
xar?
_ ara, rkinis nervebi maqvs, Zalian
unda gamagiJo, rom gavbrazde an
depresiaSi Cavvarde. bevris moTmena
SemiZlia...
_ roca cud xasiaTze xar,
ras akeTeb?
_ aseTi SemTxveva iSviaTia, verc
ki vixseneb.
_
me
gagaxseneb.
_ (icinis) ho, maSin Zalian gavbrazdi intervius saTaurze, dagireke,
viwivle, vikivle da davkide yurmili.
magram xom male gadamiara?!
_
...zarmaci
xar?
_ ara, Zalian mowesrigebuli da
yuradRebiani var. magaliTad, xval
gadaReba maqvs da dRes yvela saqme
moviTave, xval rom Tavisufali viyo
da mTlianad saqmeze vifiqro.
_
ra
gadaReba
gaqvs?
_ giga aglaZe miRebs filmSi,
romlis savaraudo saxelwodebaa _
`gogona slaididan~. es aris `tutcis~ qarTuli varianti. me modeli
var, kristi mqvia da Sesabamisad sakuTar Tavs vTamaSob, Tumca odnav gansxvavebuli xasiaTiT, radganac is ambiciuri, cinikosi da `stervaa~.
_ telefonze laparaki giyvars?
ra
_ Zalian, bavSvobidan vgiJdebi
telefonze; miyvars kompiuteric.
_ axla gaTxovebaze ar vfiqrob,
aRar minda, kidev Secdoma davuSva,
kargad unda avwon-davwono Cemi TiToeuli nabiji da ise gadavwyvito,
davukavSiro Tu ara Cemi cxovreba
kidev sxvas, magram Tu kidev gavTxovdebi, es qaRaldi xels ar SemiSlis.
_ weRan miTxari, advilad
viviwyeb wyenaso. ra ar gaviwydeba?
_ ratom ar Cqarob,
ici, ra gelodeba win?
_
rogori
deda
xar?
_ Ralats ver viviwyeb. ara mxolod mamakacis, megobris Ralatsac
ver viviwyeb. misi mteri ar gavxdebi,
magram masTan nel-nela urTierTobas
gavwyvet.
ekrans miRma
saxe
ganaxlebuli seriali, sezonis dasawyisi
da `daqoqili~ iumoristebi
telekompania `imedSi~ axali satelevizio sezonisTvis emzadebian. namdvilad ver moviTmendi,
`Ramis Sous studiis~ `oxSivarian samzareuloSic~
rom ar SemeWvrita. Tumca mxolod SeWvretas rodi
davjerdi, `mzareulsac~ gavesaubre da isic gavige,
rom Zveli da sayvareli teleserial `Sua qalaqis~
garda, maT `samzareuloSi~ kidev bevri kargi siaxle
`TuxTuxebs~. garda amisa, isic miTxres, rom... Tumca
amas interviuSi waikiTxavT. mokled, axal proeqtebsa da `gemriel~ siaxleebze Tavad studiis prodiuseri _ irakli kakabaZe isaubrebs.
elene basiliZe
_
irakli,
rogor
xar?
_ muSaobiT cota daRlili rom
ar viyo, kargad viqnebodi (icinis)...
_ vici, rom Tqveni studia
mayurebels bevr siaxles hpirdeba. Zveli proeqtebi Tu gagrZeldeba?
_ qalaqSi Worebi vrceldeba,
TiTqos seriali _ `Sua qalaqSi~
ixurebao, magram mexuTe sezonis
gadaReba ukve daviwyeT da proeqts
daxurvis safrTxe aRar emuqreba.
am serialze Tavadac kargad vxalisobT, msaxiobebsac moswonT TavianTi rolebi, mayurebelsac Zalian
uyvars da ratom unda daixuros,
roca yvelaferi kargad aris?! imis
gamo, rom erTferovneba arafers
uxdeba, amitom, mudmivad vcdilobT,
masSi siaxleebi SevitanoT. miviC-
nev, rom qarTul telesivrceSi
seriozuli rekordi movxseniT,
radganac amdeni xnis ganmavlobaSi aseTi popularuli arc
erTi gadacema ar yofila. is
personaJebi, romlebic serialSi aqamde meorexarisxovnebi
iyvnen, pirvel planze gadainacvleben, Tavs axali ambebi
gadaxdebaT, rac mTeli sezonis
ganmavlobaSi gagrZeldeba.
_ ra bedi eliT mTavari
rolis Semsruleblebs?
_ mTavari gmirebi cota xniT
ukan gadavwieT. amiT gvindoda,
proeqtSi cota siaxle Segvetana.
`Sua qalaqSi~ Cveulebriv cxovrebas asaxavs da cidan motanil xumrobebsa da ambebs Zalian veridebiT. ratom aris, rom saqarTveloSi
inglisuri iumori popularuli
araa da dumbaZis iumori yvelas
esmis? imitom, rom dumbaZis iu-
mori Cveni, mSobliuria... Torem
debi Rlontebisnair mezobels sxva
qveyanaSi uCivlebdnen (iRimeba). `Ramis SouSi~ rubrika _ presis mimoxilva darCeba, oRond proeqts
sxva axali rubrika emateba... maT
Soris, erTi konkretuli Temis
garSemo vixumrebT.
_ mxolod erT Temaze xumroba ar gagiWirdebaT?
_ is Tema RerZi iqneba, romlis garSemoc Cveni xumrobebi
itrialebs. dasawyisSi vcdiT da,
Tu mayurebels moewoneba siaxle,
aucileblad davtovebT. videorubrikebisa da gamokiTxvebis damatebasac vfiqrobT, raime aqtualur Temas avirCevT da mosaxleobis gamokiTxvas CavatarebT. TviT
gadacemis struqtura ar Seicvleba, wamyvani da misi monologic
aucileblad darCeba.
mTavari gmirebi
cota xniT ukan
gadavwieT
_ kidev ra axal gadacemas
Sematebs Tqveni studia telekompania `imedis~ eTers?
_ axal proeqtebs rac Seexeba,
gvemateba `nanukas Sou~, romelzec
nanuka JorJolianTan erTad, Cvenc
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saxe
ekrans miRma
vmuSaobT. ase rom, am Sous garkveuli tvirTi Cvens kiserzecaa (iRimeba). scenaris nawils, montaJs, gadaRebas da studias Cven `vpatronobT~. mTavari gadacemaSi, ra
Tqma unda, nanukaa da Tavisi gundic hyavs, magram Sous bevri ram
sWirdeba da Cvenc vexmarebiT...
_ ra Janris gadacema iqneba
`nanukas Sou~?
_ toqSoua, rogoric magaliTad, amerikaSi _ `opras Sou~...
amerikuli magaliTi qarTul realobas moergeba da mjera, mSvenieri Sou gamova.
_ gavige, rom nanukas gadacemaSi Caweraze Zroxa miuyvaniaT...
_ araferi vici (Tavs iqnevs da
iRimeba)! Tan winaswar arafris Tqma
ar SemiZlia (icinis)...
_ `nanukas SouSi~ vin iqnebian
stumrebi?
_ SouSi iqneba Tema da am Temis mixedviT iqnebian SerCeuli
stumrebic. mgonia, rom SouSi
sazogadoebisTvis rogorc cnobili, aseve ucnobi adamianebic
iqnebian, Tumca es yvelaferi Tavad nanukas gadasawyvetia... mas Cven-
bevrs hgonia, rom es iqneba
`faruli kamera~, magram ase
ar aris. esec amerikuli proeqtia. masSi monawileebi kastingis gavlis Sedegad xvdebian. monawileebs davalebebi
eZlevaT da Sesrulebis SemTxvevaSi, fuladi prizebiT dajildovdebian. ra Tqma unda,
esec gasarTob-iumoristuli
gadacema iqneba.
_ kastingi
acxadeT?
ukve
mjera, nanukas
mSvenieri Sou
gamo
u va
gamou
gamo-
_ kastingic gamovacxadeT
da monawileebic gamovlindnen (iRimeba)! Tavis droze,
roca `Sua qalaqisTvis~ SesarCevi konkursi gvqonda, imdeni xalxi movida, kastingi
mosaxleobis aRweraSi gadaizarda (icinis). swored im
kastingis Canawerebidan avarCieT axali gadacemis monawileebi. kidev gvaqvs axali proeqti, romelsac mxolod Cven, `Ramis Sous~ studiis wevrebi vakeTebT.
axali serialisaTvis kastingi gamovacxadeT. viRebT iumoristul serials, rogoricaa magaliTad, `se-
aseTia, magaliTad, `eqimi hausi~,
`saswrafo~ da kidev bevri. Cveni
amerikeli megobrebi, romelTac msgavsi serialebis gadaRebis didi
gamocdileba aqvT, Camovidnen da
dagvexmarnen.
vin
_ axali serialis
muSaobs?
scenarze
_ ZiriTad ambavs yvela erTad
vwerT. laSa buRaZe da basa janikaSvili ki im ambavs avrcoben da
saboloo scenars weren.
_ irakli, erTdroulad bevr
`frontze~ giwevT `brZola~. ar
gagiWirdebaT?
_ es is kiTxvaa, romelsac Cvens
SemoqmedebiT gundSi pasuxs veravin gascems. wina interviuSic
mkiTxe, amdens rogor aswrebTo?
me gipasuxe, ver vaswrebT-meTqi (icinis). imedi gvaqvs, rom axali proeqtebi mayureblis mxridan did
mowonebas daimsaxurebs. kargi iqneba, Tu iseTive warmatebas moipovebs, rogoric magaliTad, serialma `Sua qalaqSi~ moipova.
`Ramis Sous~ axali rubrikebi emateba
saviT, `rusTavi 2~-is Zveli `gvardia~ aqvs gamovlili da icis, warmatebis mosapoveblad rogor unda
imuSaos. vfiqrob, misi gadacema
TandaTanobiT moixveWs mayureblis
simpaTias. gvaqvs kidev erTi axali
proeqtic, romelzec maka lomiZesTan erTad vmuSaobT (maka adre
`mzis dartymaSi~ muSaobda)... mas
Tavisi gundi hyavs da axal gadacemaze yvelani erTad vmuSaobT.
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qsi did qalaqSi~. marTalia, ar
iqneba iseTi, rogoric `Sua qalaqSia~, magram Janrobrivad misi msgavsia. am serialisTvis specialurad axali pavilioni aSenda. araerTi msgavsi serialia gadaRebuli,
romelSic ZiriTadi moqmedeba erT
SenobaSi xdeba da filmis efeqti
aqvs. yvelaferi Zalian realuria
da mayurebels imis SegrZneba ar
uCndeba, rom dekoracias uyurebs.
_ ra grZnobaa, rodesac sakuTari Semoqmedebis nayofi warmatebuli proeqti xdeba?
_ roca vuyurebT, yovelTvis
xarvezebs ufro vxedavT... TviT
serialisa Tu gadacemis Cawerazec
ki, sadac xandaxan xalxi aRfrTovanebas ver faravs, me sul ukmarisobis grZnoba maqvs. mudmivad imas
vfiqrobT, rom raRac gamogvrCa.
xalxi ukve sakuTari ojaxis wevrebad miiCnevs serialis gmirebs. es,
ra Tqma unda, Zalian gvixaria,
magram amave dros, didi pasuxismgeblobis winaSec gvayenebs.
Jiuri
saxe
Tvalebfaxula biWebi, Jiuris
wevri Seuvali qalbatonebi
da Wolas aRsareba
musikaluri
proeqtis
_
`jeostaris~
SesarCev
konkursze
imedgacruebuli axalgazrdebi marTalia, `jeostarelebi~ ver
gaxdebian (yovel SemTxvevaSi _ wels), magram bevri maTgani
sazogadoebaSi popularobiT sargeblobs: maTi `ubadlo~ saSemsruleblo manera qarTvel mayurebels karga xans ar daaviwydeba. ukve meore welia, rac kote marjaniSvilis saxelobis
Teatris samxatvro xelmZRvaneli da reJisori _ levan wulaZe,
igive Wola `jeostaris~ Jiuris erT-erTi wevria da rogorc
ambobs, nel-nela gons movida. Turme, gancdili marcxis Semdeg,
momRerlobis mosurne axalgazrdebi Jiuris wevrebs TxovniT
mimarTaven: oRond `prikolebSi~ nu `CagvsvamT~ da jandabas
Tqveni Tavio! konkursantebis gulwrfelobiT moxiblul Wolas
kastingze
Seqmnili
situacia
sasacilod
ar
eCveneba,
magram
faqtia, rom proeqtis SesarCevi konkursis Sesaxeb gadaRebuli
`filmebi~ marTla saxalisoa. zogjer gulCvil Wolasac ki
eRimeba Secbunebuls...
eTo yorRanaSvili
_ Tavdapirvelad, roca `jeostaris~ inglisuri varianti maCvenes,
lamis guli gamiskda: inglisSi konkursantebs pirdapir lanZRaven, Tumca vinc
qebas imsaxurebs, aqeben.
_ anu qarTuli `jeostari~
ufro lmobieria?
_ ucxourTan SedarebiT _ ki.
qarTvelebi mainc mgrZnobiare xalxi
varT. CvenTan ki aris marina beriZe,
magram mis simkacreze gavrcelebuli
xmebi miTia. teleekranze sxvanairad Cans,
Torem kargad vxedavdi, rogor wvalobda da itanjeboda, vidre konkursants
maqsimalurad taqtianad etyoda: Svilo, wadi saxlSi, genacvaleo. `jeostaris~ Jiuris yvela wevri keTilia.
ubralod, funqciebi ganawilebuli gvaqvs. qalbaton marinas wilad xvda yvelaze mZime tvirTi: rTulia, roca imediT aRsavse axalgazrda modis, Sen ki
mas es imedi imave wams unda `mouWra~.
_ albaT es kargicaa: adamianma xom unda icodes, ra aris
misi saqme da ra _ ara?
_ roca saWiroa, konkursants aucileblad unda uTxra, rom momRerloba
misi profesia ver iqneba. Tuki vinmes
rame Sansi aqvs, lanac da marinac eubnebian, magram Tu adamians musikaluri
smena ara aqvs da amas Tavad ver xvdeba,
simarTle dauyovnebliv unda uTxra,
momRerlobaze fiqrSi dro rom ar
dakargos. amis miuxedavad, konkursanti Tuki mainc Tavisas `gaitans~, maSinaa
magari! sxvaTa Soris, minaxavs, roca
bevri mecadineobis Sedegad, adamians
smena `gaumoZravebia~: profesionalur
doneze _ vera, magram sufraze umReria (iRimeba). Jiuri darwmunebuli unda
iyos imaSi, rom visac airCevs, misgan is
gamova, vinc am proeqts sWirdeba. yvela
konkursantisTvis amis cal-calke axsna
Zalian rTulia, miT umetes _ maSin,
roca miaCnia, rom kargad mReris. CemTvis
es situacia Teatraluri kastingebidan
Zalian nacnobia. momRerals kidev SeiZleba, auxsna, rom arasworad aiRo
noti an xmis problema aqvs, magram Znelia, msaxiobs daumtkico, rom is am
profesiisaTvis araa Seqmnili. xSirad
konkursantis bedi erT wuTzea damokidebuli: SeiZleba, marTla niWieri iyos
adamiani, magram kastingze ise nerviulobdes, rom araferi `Candes~. mxolod
`jeostaris~ ki ara, saerTod, cxovrebis
kanonia: roca saWiroa, nerviuloba unda
gadalaxo _ esec niWia! magaliTad, erTerT regionSi koncertze sakmaod Tamami
gogona vnaxe da Zalian momewona. `jeostaris~ SesarCev konkursze rom movida, maSinve vicani, Tumca misTvis ar
miTqvams. misgan bevrs velodi, magram
nerviulobis gamo, Tavisi SesaZleblobebis mxolod 30% aCvena.
_ momdevno turSi gadasvliT Sansi Tu mieciT?
_ ara, Semdeg turSi ver gavida _
Jiuri mkacria. 5 wuTi geZleva, romelSic Tavi unda warmoaCino. vinc es ver
moaxerxa, sakuTar Tavs daabralos da
es Tviseba gamoasworos. im gogonas
rac Seexeba, SeuZlia, sakuTar Tavze
imuSaos da `jeostaris~ Semdeg
konkursze bedi kidev scados.
_ `jeostaris~ SarSandel
SesarCev konkursze imedgacruebuli konkursantebidan wels bevri
movida kastingze?
_ movidnen da sxvaTa Soris _
Zalian momzadebulebi. gansakuTrebiT
_ bolo turSi erTma gogonam gamoiCina Tavi _ Jiurize mSvenieri STabeWdileba moaxdina. `jeostari~ TandaTan Zalas ufro metad ikrebs: axalgazrdobas (miT umetes, regionebSi mcxovrebs) konkretuli mizani gauCnda, seriozulad emzadeba.
_ vokalis maswavleblebic
dasaqmdnen...
_ aba, ra! gacocxlda es `ambavi~
(icinis)!.. ar vambob, rom sxva momRerlebi araprofesionalebi arian, magram mimaCnia, rom `jeostarelebi~
qarTul estradaze axal `aminds~ qmnian; maT warmatebas didi sulieri Zalisxmevis, gamocdisa da Sromis fasad
miaRwies, rac profesiul saqmianobaSi
Zalze mniSvnelovania.
_ xSirad gqoniaT SemTxveva,
roca konkursants smena ar hqonia, magram misi artistizmiT moxiblulxarT?
_ ki, rogor ara?! es Zalian samwuxaroa. Cemi ojaxis wevrebi `jeostaris~
SesarCev konkursebze gadaRebul
`filmebs~ xSirad uyureben da ecinebaT.
arada, kastingze Seqmnili situacia
sasacilo araa xolme. magaliTad: im
biWs, `dSn-dSn~-s da msgavs raRacebs
rom `mReroda~, ver dascineb, radgan
is amas mTeli guliT akeTebda _ gulwrfeli iyo da ar ityueboda.
_ bevrs iseTi repertuari
da Sesrulebis manera aqvs, rom
SeuZlebelia, ar gageRimos. Tqvenc
xSirad gagcinebiaT...
_ ki, zogjer meRimeba, magram konkursanti Tu gulubryviloa, am RimiliT
exmarebi kidec. ra Tqma unda, Secdome-
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saxe
Jiuri
bic damiSvia. erT-erT statiaSi daweres kidec Cemze, _ cudad moiqcao.
absoluturad veTanxmebi: erT-erT
konkursants saTvale movaxsnevine. Turme,
TvalebTan dakavSirebiT problema hqonda. kinaRam movkvdi... arada, is konkursantic ra Rirseuli kaci aRmoCnda,
saTvale rom moixsna?!. Secdomis gamosasworeblad, verc veraferi vuTxari _ momeCvena, rom es misTvis Seuracxmyofeli iqneboda. Tu damijerebT,
im ambavs 4 dRis ganmavlobaSi ganvicdidi. sikvdili mindoda. cxovrebaSi
aseTi tkivili iSviaTad migrZnia. Zalian
didxans memaxsovreba. marTla SemeSala... ai, roca kastingze viRac aferistobs, es marTla sasaciloa.
_ rogor aferistobs?
_ aris SemTxvevebi, roca drois
gasatareblad Semodian da Tvalebis
faxulis xarjze, cdiloben, `gaZvrnen~.
_ biWebic?
_ aba, ra! marina da lana Tvals
TvalSi gauyrian xolme, magram maTi am
meTodiT gacureba Zalian Znelia (icinis).
_ qalbatoni marina da lana
ankesze arasodes wamogebulan?
_ ara, magram roca adamianSi sicocxle Cans, es gsiamovnebs. konkursantiT moxibluls, zogjer aRmogvxvdeba
xolme _ vaime, ra kargiao! mere vnerviulobT, rom rame ar gaafuWos.
_ Jiuris `moqrTamvis~ mcdeloba arasodes yofila?
_ ara, magram vici, rom amis cda
marinasTan absoluturi sisulelea,
radgan rogorc wesi, cudi reaqcia
aqvs.
_ e.i. mcdeloba iyo?
_ viRac Tu etyvis, _ is axalgazrda Cemi nacnobiao, _ im konkursants
marina 4-jer ufro mkacrad eqceva. `jeostarSi~ ki ara, saqarTveloSi nacnoboba bevrgan aRar Wris. zogi tipaJi
proeqtis prodiuserebisTvis momgebiania: magaliTad, lamazma gogonam SeiZleba, sazogadoebaSi meti interesi gamoiwvios, magram Sedegs xom ver damalavs. erTi Tvis ganmavlobaSi yvelaferi
gamoCndeba. amitom profesiul Tvisebebs didi mniSvneloba eniWeba.
_ SesarCev konkursze, wels
saqarTvelos romeli kuTxis warmomadgenlebma ver gamoiCines Tavi?
_ SarSan aseTi guria iyo, magram
wels guriidanac gamoCnda erTi
ymawvili. mTel saqarTvelos ver moicav
_ Cveni qveynis yoveli Sesaxvevi `calke
respublikaa~ da...
_ imedgacruebuli adamianebisgan arasasiamovno `komplimentebs~ xSirad iRebT?
_ roca adamians uimedod uSveb,
masTan Sexvedrisac ki gerideba. SarSan,
SesarCev konkursze erTi Zalian, Zalian
patara gogona gamocxadda. qvevidan
amomxeda da mkiTxa: e.i. Semdeg turSi
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ver gavedio?! _ xom giTxariT, rom
vera-meTqi?! _ vupasuxe. kamerisken mitrialda da Tqva: xom vambobdi, aq yvelaferi `Cawyobiliao~ (icinis)! albaT,
scenidan rom gadian, bevr rames amboben.
SeiZleba, piradad ar giTxran, magram
yvelaferi saxeze aweriaT. zogs guli
Zalian swydeba da gabrazebulicaa, magram tradiciuli qarTuli aRzrdis
wyalobiT, marcxs Rirseulad iRebs;
zogi ki gasvlisas kars ise gaijaxunebs,
rom yvelafers xvdebi _ sityvebi saWiro
araa. gareT duta darbis xolme da
`Tavgadasavlebi~ man icis.
_ konkursantis ambiciurobas
Tu gauRizianebixarT?
_ zogjer, SesarCevi konkursis meore turze moumzadeblebi modian _
es marTla Seuracxmyofelia. `jeostari~
bevr Sromasa da simRerisadmi did
siyvaruls moiTxovs. am proeqtSi adamiani Tavisi sizarmaciT Seuracxyofas sakuTar Tavs ayenebs, radgan daudevari konkursantebis gverdiT, iseTebic ibrZvian, vinc mecadineobaSi Rameebs
aTeneben da bunebrivia, Jiuris pativis-
cemas imsaxureben. es proeqti Zalian
sainteresoa CemTvis _ rogorc adamianisTvis da rogorc Teatris reJisorisaTvis: Sroma yovelTvis imarjvebs! ra Tqma unda, niWi aucilebelia,
magram mere ukve miznis misaRwevad didi
muSaoba iwyeba.
_ dasasrul, TbilisSi gamarTul msoflio Teatralur festivalsac SevexoT.
_ ucxoelebis nawili Camovida, zogi
_ kidev Camova. me magida wamarTves,
kabinetidan gamomaZeves da oTax-oTax
davborialeb (icinis). mxolod festivalis gulSematkivrobiT Semovifarglebi. Cemi studentobis periodSi, Teatralur festivalze nekrioSusis
speqtaklma _ `Zia vania~ _ didi STabeWdileba moaxdina da SeiZleba iTqvas,
rom reJisuraSi Cemi bedi gadawyvita.
welsac bevri adamianis bedi Seicvleba.
qarTvelebisTvis es festivali mniSvnelovania: msoflio Teatralur xelovnebas gaecnobian, qarTuls Seadareben da mixvdebian, rom mTlad `ukan
dasaxevi~ xalxi ar varT.
saxe
scena
`leningradis~ najaxiT
gamoCorknili gitara,
`kolhotis wvniani~ da
quTaiseli mevioline...
Tu erTxel mainc mogikravT yuri im gamonaTqvamisTvis, rom
sicili sicocxles axangrZlivebs _ aucileblad gaecaniT intervius `quCis musikosebTan~. musikaluri instrumentebis jadoqrebs iumoric moWarbebuli aqvT... biWebs repeticiaze, pirveli solo koncertis win vestumreT. Cveni respondentebi amjerad,
virtuozi musikosebi _ guja mardaleiSvili da xviCa maRlakeliZe aRmoCndnen. maRlakeliZe `didi asoTi~ iwerebao, _
sagangebod gamafrTxila xviCam sakuTari gvaris warmoTqmisas.
Cveni ansamblis
saxeli _
`quCis musikosebi~
Zalian mogvwons
nino mWedliSvili
am
_ momiyeviT, rogor moxvdiT
`gaugebrobaSi~?
xviCa:
_ imdeni xani gavida mas Semdeg, aRarc ki gvaxsovs... Tavidan
`gaugebrobaSi~ me movxvdi, radganac Cemi debiuti `iumorinaSi~ 4
wlis win Sedga. gitariT xelSi,
wiTel `saroCkaSi~ gamowyobili,
sacodavi, morcxvi biWuna videqi
scenaze da 18 dRis ganmavlobaSi
vukravdi. im sezonis Semdeg, baton jemals idea gauCnda, musikaluri jgufi Camoeyalibebina,
romlis wevrebic sxvadasxva instrumentze damkvreli musikosebi
iqnebodnen, romelTa niWierebis
ambavi farTo masebma ar icodnen...
mere saxelic iseTi SeirCa, rom
Tanadgoma gamogvexata im musikosebisTvis, vinc scenis miRma darC-
nen, vinc miwisqveSa gadasasvlelSi ukravs an saxlSi zis da ver
avlens Tavis SesaZleblobas. batonma jemalma Segvkriba jgufi,
romlis wevrebsac Tamamad SemiZlia,
vuwodo virtuozebi. me jgufSi
gujas moyvana damevala. gia baRaSvilma miTxra, erTi magari biWia,
violinos `bdRvnis~ da is unda
momiZebnoo. gujas adgilidan daZvra advili saqme ar aris... ra unda
gavakeTo `iumorinaze~? unda vixumroo? _ mkiTxa gujam.
_ guja, ar giyvars xumroba?
_ rogor ar miyvars?! manamde
siamovnebiT vuyurebdi `iumorinas~, magram rodesac xviCam miTxra,
Cemi Tavi iq ver warmovidgineo,
ra SeiZleboda, gamekeTebina?.. arc
is vicodi, Tu musikalur jgufs
qmnidnen... mere giam damireka, yvelaferi amixsna.
_ ise, sul Tavidan, rogor
daiwyo Tqveni musikasTan Sexeba?
xviCa:
_ 13 wlis viyavi, gitaraze
dakvra rom daviwye. Tumca imas
dakvra arc erqva. TiTebi akordebis ZebniT daCexili mqonda. mZime
periodi iyo: SimSilobis, uSuqobis, uwylobis da erTaderTi gasarTobi CemTvis, naCuqari (leningradis najaxiT gamoCorknili) gitara iyo...
_
vin
gan
lin-i
gaCuqa?
_ erTma rusma qalbatonma,
romelic dedaCemis megobari iyo;
is saqarTvelodan midioda da Tan
rom ver waiRo, me damitova...
_ mas
qebina?..
rom
gitara
ar
eCu-
_ maSin dRes erTi `Zveli biWi~
viqnebodi da, am asakis gaTvaliswinebiT, cixidan ukve mesamed
gamosuli: iseTi cudi dro iyo,
Cem garSemo narkomanebi da `Zveli
biWebi~ trialebdnen... gitaram
saxlSi Camketa da SeiZleba iTqvas, gadamarCina. maswavlebeli da
aranairi damxmare ar myolia, CemiT, wvaleb-wvalebiT gavikvlie gza.
erTi mezobeli myavda, romelic
gitaraze ukravda; mezoblebi kocons daanTebdnen, garSemo Semousxdebodnen da is biWic _
aseTia qurdi kacis bedio, _ daamRerebda. la minorSi ukravda. erTxelac mas vuyure da mere mTeli
Tve la minors vukravdi... re minori ki ukve sxvam maswavla... mere
sadRac, mi maJorsac movkari Tvali da avawyve cxovreba (icinis).
visockis wignic mqonda da ase...
_ didi wvalebiT giswavlia
gitaraze dakvra. guja, Sen ras
ityvi sakuTar ganvlil cxovrebaze?
_ folkloriT daviwye, quTaisSi xalxur ansamblSi vmRerodi.
mere violinos ganxriT, musikaluri
Svidwledi davamTavre.
_ maincdamainc violino ratom airCie?
_ me ar amirCevia, es deidaCemis gadawyvetileba iyo. quTaisSi
rTuli iyo violinoTi siaruli,
Zmakacebi damcinodnen _ beThovena xaro. mere konservatoriaSi Cavabare da davamTavre.
xviCa:
_ e, biWo, mouyevi, jano kaxiZis
orkestrSic rom ukravdi. amaT
hgoniaT, marTla `padzemkaSi~ ukravdi...
_ ise, bevrs hgonia, rom
`quCis musikosebi~ marTla, miwisqveSa gadasasvlelSi ukravdnen. arasdros dagikravT iq?
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saxe
scena
celda, romelsac `sigua~
erqva. kolhotSi unda
Cagewyo _ xaxvi, mwvanilebi, xorci, kartofili da,
yvelaferi erTad, aduRebuli wyliT savse qvabSi
unda Cageyo; mere amoiRebdi da im wvnians daxvrepdi, xolo kolhotSi
moTavsebul produqts
gaaSrobdi da isev rom
mogSivdeboda, imaves gaimeorebdi...
guja:
_ eg kolhoti naxmari
iyo?
_ Tu naxmari iyo, wvniani aromatuli gamodioda. kai qalis nacvam kolhotSi gakeTebul wvnians
ra sjobia?!.
_ Senaxuli gaqvs is
kolhoti?
Cven `padzemkaSi~
arasdros vmdgarvarT
_ ara, erT-erTi sadilobis dros SemomeWama.
_ visi nacvami iyo?
_ Cemi.
_
xviCa:
_ Cven `padzemkaSi~ arasdros
vmdgarvarT. restoranSi ki
vukravdiT da axlac vukravT. es
Cveni Semosavlis ZiriTadi wyaro
gaxlavT. Tumca Cveni ansamblis
saxeli _ `quCis musikosebi~ Zalian
mogvwons. kargia, Tu xalxi quCis
musikosebad aRgviqvams...
_ xviCa, rogori asatani xar
saxlSi?
_ saxlSi ZiriTadad, ara var...
Sin rom vbrundebi, Svili mekiTxeba _ vin gnebavTo? ver mcnobs.
_
Svili
ramxelaa?
_ 8 wlis, oRond ar miTxra
axla, 8 wlis Svili Tu ver gcnobs, glaxadaa saqmeo (icinis).
ar
_ guja,
xar?
Sen
daojaxebuli
_ coli axlaxan moviyvane, Sorena gamsaxurdia profesiiT filologia, jer Svili ar gvyavs.
xviCa:
_ esec CemsaviTaa _ enatrebaT
ojaxSi. ise, `bulkiviT~ kacia _
upretenzio; ra saWmelsac daudeb,
SeWams, arc ikiTxavs, _ risganaa
momzadebulio?..
guja:
_ erTaderTi, saWmelSi moxarSuli Tu moxrakuli xaxvi ar miyvars.
xviCa:
_ xaxvze gamaxsenda: 90-ian wlebSi, SimSilobis periodi rom iyo,
xalxSi erTi araCveulebrivi kerZis
_ `kolhotis `supis~ recepti gavr-
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gza
ra?
guja:
_ magisi nacvami iqneboda,
amjerad ar xumrobs. mohyevi, erTxel samsaxurSi qalis kolhotiT
rom moxvedi.
_
marTals
ambobs?
yvelaferma zanzari daiwyo, xalxi
gareT gacvivda, me ki, gasagebi
mizezis gamo, Sin davrCi...
xviCa:
_ erTxel maxsovs, miwisZvris
dros, maSin, roca yvela wivilkiviliT gareT garboda, mamaCemi
loginSi iwva da gazeTiT xelSi
nebivrobda. erTaderTi moZraoba,
romelic man miwisZvris Semdeg
gaakeTa, is iyo, rom `axalgazrda
komunisti~ Semdeg gverdze gadafurcla... miwisZvraze erTi anekdoti gamaxsenda: raWvels hkiTxes,
ra qeni, miwisZvra rom daiwyoo?
_ ra da, saxlSi Zlivs Sevaswario,
_ upasuxa... meTeqvsmete sarTulze
vcxovrob da miwisZvras saxlSi rom
Sevxvde, kidec movkvdebi, ver gadavitan.
_ axla im koncertzec miambeT, cota xanSi filarmoniaSi
rom gvelodeba.
guja:
_ es Cveni pirveli solo koncertia da didi pasuxismgebloba
gvakisria. ar unda gavawbiloT
mayurebeli, amitom, maqsimalurad
mobilizebulni varT.
_ axla miTxariT, rogoria
Tqveni xelmZRvaneli _ gia baRaSvili, rodesac gabrazebulia?
_ mtrisas, Tu gabrazda! kaxuradac Semogvaginebs xolme, magram
meore wuTs aRar axsovs, ratom
gabrazda. yvelaze metad dagvianebaze brazobs.
_ ra iyo, axlave getyvi:
zamTarSi, minus 13 gradusi yinva
iyo da moulodnelad dagvirekes
_ erT-erT resto_ TviTon ar igvianebs?
ranSi unda dagvekra.
saxlSi Sarvlis qveS
biWebi cocxlad `vuberavT~
Casacmeli Tbili
Sarvali veZebe, iseTi yinva iyo, mis
gareSe gareT ver
gavidodi. ver vipove, radganac Cems
cols gaurecxavs.
mere meuRles vuTxari: Seni sqeli
`kalgotka~ maTxove,
Sarvlis qveS Cavicvam, ra gamoCndeba-meTqi?.. maTxova.
Cavicvi, davdeqi
sarkesTan da Cemi tani momewona;
_ TviTon ar modis (icinian)...
sxeulis yvela nakli damifara...
_ ra iqneba Tqveni solo
mere zemodan Sarvali amovicvi da
koncertis mTavari koziri?
wavedi...
xviCa:
_ mTavari koziri isaa, rom 2
_ guja, Senc xom ar gcmia
qalis tansacmeli?
saaTis ganmavlobaSi biWebi cocxlad `vuberavT~, yovelgvari eSma_ ki. am zafxuls miwisZvra rom
kobisa da aCqarebis gareSe. qalaqiyo, megobrebi baTumSi viyaviT.
Si Wori dadis, eseni winaswar weren
miwisZvramde erTi saaTiT adre,
musikas da mere aCqarebeno. am
vimaimuneT, qalis kaba Camacves,
Worsac gavuqarwylebT mayurebels,
biusthalteriT; makiaJic gamikeTes
Tu koncertze mobrZandeba...
da Sesaferisi varcxnilobac... mere
saxe
kulisebi
msaxiobi, esqtremali
da `qlab-Sous~
`sqeli~ mocekvave
23 wlis sali daviTiSvili im 4 mocekvaveTagan
erT-erTia, vinc `qlab-Sous~ monawile biWebisgan miRebul `gamamxnevebel komplimentebs~ _ deda, ra sqelebi
xarTo! _ gmirulad uZlebs. sicilisgan Ronemixdili
gogonebi kluburi iumoris cekviT gaformebaze mainc
gulmodgined zrunaven...
eTo yorRanaSvili
_ pirvel klasSi viyavi, roca
qarTuli cekvis wreze Sevedi. mere
ukve veRar vaswrebdi inglisuris,
musikis, qarTuli cekvis swavlas _
am yvelafris SeTavseba ver movaxerxe. Tan, cota `biWuri~ viyavi
(icinis). dedaCemma vaxtang Wabukianis saxelobis qoreografiul saswavlebelSi Semiyvana _ klasikuri
baleti Seviswavle. paralelurad,
`vernisaJSi~ davdiodi, sadac ukve
8 weliwad-naxevaria, var. roca `vernisaJidan~ 4 gogona `qlab-SouSi~
sacekvaod wagviyvanes, gansxvavebul
garemoSi aRmovCndiT _ `qlab-Sou~
sxva samsaxurebs ar hgavs: zogjer
biWebs iseTi sasacilo ram uTqvamT, rom cekvis Tavic aRar gvqonia. imis nacvlad, rom `tixrebSi~
cekva ganvagrZoT, gulianad viciniT.
mere biWebma Cvenc `agviTvalwunes~:
suraTebi gaakeTes, Tu rogori
viqnebiT 100 wlis Semdeg, patarpatara scenarebic daweres... vexvewebiT, rom erTxel `qlab-SouSi~
sxvadasxva
qalaqSi
CavdivarT da
maT koncerts
cekviT
vaformebT
stumrad migviwvion. vnaxoT, ras izamen _ maT kaci
verafers gaugebs, araferia sakvirveli (icinis).
_ sali, kulisebSi
ra xdeba xolme, SegiZlia, miTxra?
_ oo... kulisebSi sxva
samyaroa (icinis)! erTi
gasaxdeli gvaqvs, sadac
gogonebi tanisamoss vicvliT, biWebi ki grims ikeTeben. ver veteviT da
vTxovT, rom gavidnen, magram gvpasuxoben: ara uSavs, gamoicvaleT,
reaqcia ar gvaqvso. `Semolagdebian~
da daiwyeben: vaime, Sen Zalian gasuqebuli xar... deda, deda, ra sqelebi
xarTo (icinis)!.. patara ojaxiviT varT.
_ rac
stumrebs?
SeexebaT
saRamoebze
cekvavT?
_ kalaTburTis TamaSebze vcekvavT _ mxardamWeri gogonebi
varT, aseve _ daxurul, korporaciul saRamoebze, qarTvel momRerlebTan erTad, Cveni qveynis
sxvadasxva qalaqSi CavdivarT da
maT koncerts cekviT vaformebT.
gadacemis
_ cekvaSi yvelaze did niWs
romeli momRerali amJRavnebs?
_ imden maTgans vicnobT, rom
gadacemis Cawerisas gvelaparakebian: aba, rogor xarT, ra xdeba
axalio? nika Seaxsenebs xolme _
Caweraze xarTo!
_ ase ver gamovyof (icinis)...
Zalian momwons Tika facacia. is
yvelafers iolad iTvisebs. mondomebiT muSaobs sakuTar Tavze
da cdilobs, ise icekvos, rogorc
_ Cven. mizans aucileblad aRwevs, Sesabamisad _ mocekvaveebisgan ver ganasxvaveb. masTan TanamSromloba sasiamovnoa.
_ Caweris Semdeg, klubSi
arasodes rCebiT mocekvave
gogonebi?
_ ara, Caweris dasrulebisTanave mivdivarT _ samsaxuria da morCa! rom darCe, SeiZleba, vinme mTvrali movides,
usiamovnebas gadaeyaro... rac
naklebi problema gveqneba, ukeTesi ar aris?
_ `qlab-Sous~ mocekvaveTa
Semadgenloba arasodes Secvlila?
_ zogjer, dRis ganmavlobaSi `vernisaJis~ gogonebis
adgilas gviwevs gamosvla. xom
ver `gavixliCebiT~? amitom
vnawildebiT _ cekvas vin sad
moaxerxebs. yofila SemTxveva,
roca `qlab-SouSi~ Cven nacvlad sxvas ucekvia.
_
ZiriTadad,
ra
tipis
_ Tqveni xelmZRvaneli _
Tea gobejiSvili mkacri maswavlebelia?
_ mkacri _ ara, momTxovnia
(icinis). ZiriTadad, simkacris gamoCena maSin uxdeba, roca gadaRlilobisgan isterikuli sicili
agvitydeba xolme da veRar vCerdebiT. aseT SemTxvevaSi, an SeniSvnas gvaZlevs, an Tavadac icinis.
sakuTari Tavis mimarT momTxovnebi varT: marTalia, viRlebiT, magram formaSi rom xar da Tavs
janmrTelad, komfortulad grZnob,
xom sasiamovnoa?
_ sali, `qlab-SouSi~ gogonebis sasceno samosze vin zrunavs?
_ dizaineri ar gvyavs, ufro
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saxe
kulisebi
_ sali, kidev riT xar gatacebuli?
dizaineris profesiaze vocnebobdi,
magram bolos
msaxioboba varCie
metic _ samoss Cveni xeliT vkeravT. kostiums TeasTan erTad ganvixilavT da saqmes mere SevudgebiT
xolme. sxvaTa Soris, mTeli bavSvoba dizaineris profesiaze vocnebobdi, magram bolos msaxioboba
varCie _ Teatraluri universiteti davamTavre. serial `kabare 5
varskvlavSi~ bolos axali personaJi _ ofis-menejeri daamates da
mis rols vasrulebdi. Teatris
scenazec vTamaSob. ase rom, Cemi
cxovreba mxolod cekviT ar Semoifargleba. zogjer iseTi datvirTuli grafiki maqvs, rom dilis 10
saaTze saxlidan rom gavdivar, Sin
mxolod Ramis 4 saaTze vbrundebi.
sul `gadarbenaze~ var. am zafxuls
`qlab-Sous~ Cawera baTumSi gvqonda. Caweris dasrulebisTanave,
mocekvaveebi grandiozul koncertze
unda vyofiliyaviT, romelic pirdapiri eTeriT gadaicemoda. samosis
gamocvlas veRar movaswrebdiT. amitom mTeli bulvari `qlab-Sous~
formaSi `gabrWyvialebulma~ gaviareT. yvela Cven gviyurebda, _ ra
xdebao?! zogma arCeul marSruts
gadauxvia da ukan gamogvyva. mgoni,
im koncertze mayureblis naxevarze
meti Cven moviyvaneT (icinis). ase
xSirad gvemarTeba: sxva obieqtze
varT wasasvleli, Cven ki samosis
gamocvlas ver vaswrebT. xandaxan
marketSic `gabrWyvialebuli~ SevdivarT. aba, ra vqnaT?!
megobrebTan yofnac Zalian miyvars.
Tuki dasvenebis dRe maqvs (rac iSviaTad xdeba), erTi, 20 kaci SevikribebiT da erTmaneTs Cvens ambebs vuyvebiT, verTobiT... maTTan
ver moiwyen: TiTqmis yvela xelovania da cota `afrens~ (icinis).
_ modi, Seni ojaxis Sesaxeb
gviambe: dedmamiSvilebi gyavs?
_ ki, Zma veteqimia, naxevardam
(mamis mxridan) kinosa da Teatris
menejmentis fakulteti daamTavra.
is ukve 18 welia, rac moskovSia.
erTmaneTTan Zalian kargi urTierToba gvaqvs... Cems saxlSi ZaRli, kata da TuTiyuSic cxovrobs.
_
_ Tan, Zma veteqimi
agiwyvia cxovreba.
yofila
_ (icinis) Zalian mxiarulad
vcxovrobT. cxovelebi miyvars,
magram Cemi ZaRli maSinebs: mamaCemis garda, ufrosad aravis cnobs!
veraferi gavuge: arc zedmeti mofereba uyvars, arc _ uyuradReboba, sul miRrens. katas xels davavleb xolme da vambob: Cems oTaxSi
mivdivar, Tavi damanebeT-meTqi!
axla velodebiT, TuTiyuSi laparaks rodis iswavlis, magram mgoni,
yefas ufro male daiwyebs, vidre
_ laparaks, radgan ZaRls iqauroba yefiT aqvs aklebuli...
_ ojaxis wevrebisTvis, megobrebisTvis dro Tu grCeba?
_ xandaxan mSoblebi damcinian
_ Sin mxolod dasaZineblad modixaro (icinis). erTmaneTs yvelaferSi xels vuwyobT. roca dro maqvs,
Sin Sevirben xolme, Tundac _ sadilobisas da vsaubrobT. mSoblebs
yvelafers vuyvebi _ vmegobrobT.
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gza
kalaTburTis TamaSebze vcekvavT _
mxardamWeri gogonebi varT
_ Zalian miyvars sportis eqstremaluri saxeobebi! roca sazRvargareT mivemgzavrebi, dedaCemi mexveweba
_ iqidan ar gadmoxte, ase ar moiqceo... mec vpirdebi, rom Wkvianad
viqnebi, magram fotoebs rom aTvalierebs, suraTze xan paraSutiT gadmoxtomis momentia aRbeWdili, xan
_ sportul manqanaSi jdomis (icinis)... manqanis tareba Cemi hobia!
gadacema `avtorbolaSi~ gogonebs
Soris, 1-eli adgili davikave, 30
biWs Soris ki me-4 adgilze gavedi.
mere mTxovdnen, rom manqanis marTva
profesionalur doneze Semeswavla
da SejibrebebSi monawileoba mimeRo. dro ar maqvs, Torem maT winadadebas siamovnebiT davTanxmdebodi da rusTavidan veRarc Camomiyvandnen (icinis)!..
_ ra asakis iyavi,
saWes pirvelad miujeqi?
roca
_ 16 wlis. maSin erT-erT klubSi
vmuSaobdi. megobris dabadebis dRe
iyo da Cems Zmas daleva mouxda.
miTxra: manqanas aq ver davtoveb,
Sin Sen unda mimiyvanoo. marTva
mxolod Teoriulad vicodi. saWes
mivujeqi da Zma saxlamde kankalkankaliT miviyvane. mere nel-nela
gavTamamdi. amJamad jipi myavs. Zalian momwons `mersedesi~, magram
jerjerobiT, mas Cems samsaxurs ver
Sevufereb: sul `gadarbenaze~ rom
var, CemTvis jipi ufro komfortuli da mosaxerxebelia.
_ sali, Seyvarebuli ar gyavs?
_ ara (icinis).
_ maSin Sens
lebze miambe.
Tayvanismcem-
_ maTgan yovelTvis sayvedurs
viReb, radgan CemTan urTierToba
mxolod telefoniT SeuZliaT, isic
_ 2 an 5 wuTis ganmavlobaSi.
Sexvedra, yavis daleva, ukeT gacnoba _ es gamoricxulia, radgan Tu
Tavisufali dro maqvs, minda, Cemi
megobrebisTvis gamoviyeno. ase rom,
jerjerobiT, arc seriozuli urTierTobisTvis mcalia da arc _
TayvanismcemlebisTvis.
saxe
dizaineri
`Tu qalebis gulebs dai pyrob,
maSin gaqvs raRacis Sansi~...
guli
dizaineri
avTandil
cqvitiniZe
gasul
kviras, kievSi `feSen vikze~
gaemgzavra. axla iq msoflios wamyvani dizainerebi
i k ri b e b i a n . . .
qarTveli
dizaineri cdilobs, sakuTar
Semoqmedebas
bevri
dro dauTmos da msoflio
modis
tendenciebi
maqsimalurad
gamoiyenos.
avTandili
u k r a i ni d a n
alma-ataSi
Cava,
sadac
agreTve `feSen vikze~ stumradaa miwveuli. mas kievSi gamgzavrebamde ramdenime dRiT adre Sevxvdi.
_ ise, bolo dros Seni
CvenebiT didad arc varT ganebivrebulebi.
_ veridebi xolme TbilisSi
Cvenebis gamarTvas, radganac CvenTan am yvelafris maRal doneze
organizeba rTulia, magram axla
`redisoni~ karg pirobebs mTavazobs. Cem Semdeg iq Cvenebas Tamuna
ingoroyva gamarTavs.
_ ras gvTavazob Sens axal
koleqciaSi?
_ kievis `feSen viks~ yovelTvis
msoflios wamyvani dizainerebi eswrebian. maTi azri CemTvis mniSvnlovania. amitom Cems koleqcias modis msoflio tendenciebis dacviT
vakeTeb... 2010 wels qalis kaba Zalze
damokldeba. kabis sigrZe muxlidan
sakmaod zemoT aiwevs. aqtualuri
xdeba maqmanismagvari qsovili. aseve
moduri iqneba `skivridan amoRebuli~ Zveli kabis Tanamedrove
variantic. am sezonze pijakebs patara mxrebi eqneba, romelic darwmunebuli var, qarTvel qalbatonebs moewonebaT. rac Seexeba ferebs, gamoyenebuli maqvs: TeTri, rZisferi da Savi. ase rom, vfiqrob,
koleqcia Zalian saintereso unda
gamomivides.
_ rogor fiqrob, dizainerma warmatebas rogor unda miaRwios?
_ upirvelesad, dizaineri niWieri da Sromismoyvare unda iyos.
saTanado ganaTleba sWirdeba, swrafad unda auRos alRo msoflio
utkenia?
_
musikas
ra
roli
uWiravs Sens SemoqmedebaSi?
_ Cvenebis dros musika Zalze
mniSvnelovani komponentia.
_
muSaobis
dros?
_ arc ise. muSaobis dros
yovelTvis is atmosfero momwons, rac Cems saxelosnoSia.
musikas varjiSis dros vusmen.
roca davrbivar, vcdilob, energiul simRerebs movusmino,
rom varjiSis tempi ar davardes.
meri kobiaSvili
_ Cemi Cveneba TbilisSi, 24
oqtombers sastumro `redisonSia~
dagegmili.
aravis
_ ra Tqma unda, karieris
dasawyisSi gulistkena mqonda... axla imis gaxseneba uinteresoa.
modis tendenciebs; hqondes unari,
rom eqvs TveSi erTxel, radikalurad gardaqmnas sakuTari koleqcia. dizaineri aqtiurad unda iyos
CarTuli feSenindustriaSi, eswrebodes sxvadasxa `farTis~ da presasTan kargi urTierToba hqondes.
aseve imegobros kritikosebTan da
yovelTvis modurad Cacmuli iyos.
_ rogoria Seni erTi Cveulebrivi dRe?
_ adre viRviZeb. bavSvTan erTad vTamaSob, mere samsaxurSi
mivdivar. saRamoobiT vvarjiSob
da auzze mivdivar. aseTia Cemi erTi
Cveulebrivi dRe. zogjer ama Tu
im `farTisa~ da RonisZiebas veswrebi, presasTan vurTierTob.
_ mxatvruli literaturis wasakiTxad dro Tu grCeba?
_ literaturas mgzavrobis
dros vkiTxulob. xSirad wignisTvis ver vicli.
_
bolos
ra
waikiTxe?
_ rTuli, fsiqologiuri wigni
bolo dros ar wamikiTxavs. miyvars
pirovnebebis biografiebis kiTxva.
bolos Sanelis cxovrebas gavecani.
didi adamianebis biografiebidan
raRacebs vswavlob xolme. bevri ram,
rac yvela adamians wakiTxuli unda
hqondes, didi xnis win wavikiTxe da
misi xelmeored gadakiTxvis momenti jer ar damdgomia.
_ koko Sanelis biografiis
gacnobam ra gaswavla?
_ ra Tqma unda, kritikas iseTi
adamianebisgan viReb, vinc Cvens sferoSi kompetenturia. modis sferoSi Cauxedavi adamianisgan kritikas
ar miviReb. TumcaRa mosmenis kultura maqvs.
_ yvela cnobili dizaineris
biografia erTmaneTs raRaciT
hgavs. maTi warmatebebi yovelTvis
did SromasTan, tkivilsa da did
siyvarulTanaa dakavSirebuli. ar
vici, ra SeiZleba koko Sanelisgan
aviRo, magram is periodi, rac man
popularobamde gaiara, sakmaod dasafasebelia. man modis samyaroSi
absoluturad sxva epoqa Seqmna.
fuSfuSa kabebis magivrad mkacri
stilis pijakebi da martivi tansacmeli Semoitana da faqtobrivad, yvela dizaineri aiZula, am
xaziT wasuliyo. axla Znelia, msoflio modaSi radikalurad rame
Secvalo, imitom, rom bevri wamyvani da `naklebad wamyvani~ dizaineri arsebobs. yvela raRac siaxles gvTavazobs; amitom periodi,
roca raRacis radikalurad Secvlis dro iyo, damTavrda.
_ mainc ar mipasuxe _
karieris dasawyisSi kritikis gamo
_
teleserial
_
`Sua
qalaqSi~ Seni samsaxiobo de-
_ rogorc vici, Tu dizaineris iseT Cvenebaze moxvdi, rom
ar mogewona, kritikasac ar eridebi.
magaliTad, daTuna sulikaSvilis
Cvenebis Semdeg Tqvi: aq mosvliT
dro tyuilad davkargeo.
_ kritikas ar veridebi, magram
vcdilob, am SemTxvevaSi bolomde
gulaxdili mainc ar viyo, Tavi
Sevikavo. Zalian ar unda gaakritiko adamiani, romelic Tavis profesiaSi axla dgams nabijebs.
_ karieris dasawyisSi Senc
gakritikebda vinme? saerTod, SeniSvnebs rogor iReb?
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saxe
varskvlavebi
biuti Sedga. mogewona msaxioboba?
_ `Sua qalaqSi~ Zalian popularuli serialia. simarTle
giTxra, msaxioboba maincdamainc
ar mizidavs, magram aRniSnuli
teleseriali imdenad miyvars, mis
msaxiobebTan urTierToba mexaliseboda. kamerasTan `urTierTobac~ momewona, magram ver vityvi, msaxioboba `gulSi Camivarda~ da xSirad
minda, msgavsi ram gavakeTo-meTqi.
_ ese igi, Sens profesias
araferze gacvli, ara?
_ ara; saqarTveloSi imdeni kargi msaxiobia, rom Cemi `gamsaxiobeba~
maT fonze zedmeti iqneba. yvelam
Tavisi saqme unda akeTos!
_
simRera
gexerxeba?
_ pirvelad, erT saaxalwlo
proeqtSi me da Tika facaciam simRera `ar gaCerde~ vimRereT. yvelaferi iumorSi iyo gadawyvetili
da Zalian kargi gamovida. amas winaT
ki jguf `kenzosTan~ erTad, `komedi SouSi~ gamovedi. simRera ar
mexerxeba, magram Tu Sous sWirdeba, SemiZlia, ori dRe vinerviulo
da SouSi monawileoba miviRo.
_ sainteresoa, ra rCevas
miscem
damwyeb
dizainerebs?
_ Tu bevrs imuSaveb, siZneleebs
gadalaxav da rac mTavaria, qalebis
guls daipyrob. aris Sansi, rom am
sferoSi didxans darCe. winaaRmdeg
SemTxvevaSi, dabali donis Cvenebebis gamarTva ar aris sasurveli,
magram bevrma albaT es etapic unda
gaiaros. Tumca ar minda, Zalian
kategoriuli viyo...
Tu bevrs
imuSaveb,
siZneleebs
gadalaxav
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gza
`Cemi nakli Cemsave
Rirsebad gadavaqcie!~
keit mosi _
didi simaRlidan
gadmovardnili kata
keit moss cxovrebis yvela
etapze, yvelaze metad
provokaciebi uyvarda. sxvebis
mier gaTelili bilikebiT
arasdros uvlia da arc
siwmindis simbolo yofila
odesme. piriqiT, sakuTar Tavs
ar Ralatobda da imad
rCeboda, rac sinamdvileSi
iyo _ nerviul, isterikul
gogonad, romelsac mtaceblis
gamoxeda hqonda. keitma
sakuTari saxis Zvirad gayidva
moaxerxa. igi saWiro dros
saWiro adgilze aRmoCnda da
amiT biznesis umTavresi
cnebis Sesruleba SeZlo.
keit mosi pirvelad niuiorkis aeroportSi SeamCnies da
modelis ampluaSi Zalebis mosinjva SesTavazes. manac scada,
magram bevrs verafers miaRwia
_ klaudia Siferisa da linda
evangelistas msgavsi, aSoltili,
didebuli, podiumis dedoflebis fonze, tanmorCili (170 sm-ze
naklebi), Seuxedavi da mouxeSavi
gogona daikarga, magram cota xanSi misi droc dadga...
gasuli saukunis boboqarma, 90ianma wlebma yvelaferi uaryo,
risi uaryofac ki SesaZlebeli
iyo da narkotikebi, daudevari
Cacmuloba da uniseqsis stili
gaaRmerTa. 1992 wels keiti Calvin
Klein-is sunamos reklamaSi gadaiRes da uecrad aRmoCnda, rom
modis samyaro swored mas _ biWunas msgavs, naz da Seuxedav models eloda. ai, ras werda mogvianebiT keit mosis mSobliuri,
puritanuli inglisuri presa: _
`igi yvelafers ewinaaRmdegeba,
rasac sinamdvileSi unda warmoadgendes. igi pataraa, mkacri
gamoxedva da araswori nakvTebi
aqvs, magram sinamdvileSi es yvelaferi upiratesobas aniWebs,
radgan adamianebi masSi sakuTar
Tavs xedaven. keiti modis gaucxoebul da cru samyaroSi gamonak-
liss warmoadgens~. keits sakuTari Tavis reklamireba ar dasWirda: Calvin Klein-is reklamis Semdeg yvela samodelo saxls mxolod masTan surda muSaoba. mosi
Zalze bevrs Sromobda. iseT cnobil firmebTan TanamSromlobda, rogorebicaa Christian Dior, Burberry, Chanel, Dior, Yves Saint Laurent,
Louis Vuitton da Roberto Cavalli, magram amasTan, Zveleburad Tavze
xelaRebulad cxovrobda. mravalsaaTiani gadaRebebis Semdeg
alkoholsa da narkotikebs etaneboda, saxlSi gaTenebisas midioda da uTenia dgeboda, raTa
gamouZinebeli da gamofituli
morig Cvenebaze wasuliyo.
`narkomania da alkoholi _
yvela modelis problemaa. mudam
raRacas ganasaxiereb, avadmyofobis uflebac ar gaqvs. erT mSvenier dRes ki fsiqika imsxvreva
da Zalauneburad fsiqologiuri
gantvirTvis gzebs eZeb~, _ ase
imarTlebda Tavs keiti. raRac
momentSi modeli marTlac gatyda. rodesac paparacebma kokainis
moxmarebaSi gamoiWires, igi sayovelTao gakicxvis obieqti gaxda. Chanel-ma da Burberry-m masTan
dadebuli kontraqtebi gawyvites,
keiti ki iZulebuli iyo, sareabilitacio klinikaSi dawolil-
varskvlavebi
iyo... mas mxolod narkomaniisgan
gankurneba rodi esaWiroeboda,
keit mosi siyvarulisganac unda
gaTavisuflebuliyo. unda iTqvas, rom misTvis siyvaruli xSirad sworedac rom daavadebad gadaiqceoda _ mwvave, yovlismomcvel, giJur daavadebad... modeli sakuTar romanebs arasdros
malavda da garyvnilebis braldebebs mSvidad ismenda, radgan misabaZ magaliTad sakuTari Tavis
garda aravin miaCnda. 17 wlis
asakSi niu-iorkSi cnobil fotograf mario soretisTan erTad cxovrobda. keits mario
sigiJemde uyvarda, mas ki moduri
JurnalebisTvis satrfos fotosuraTebis gadaReba itacebda.
rodesac urTierToba samuSaoSi
gadaizarda, keits sxva mamakaci
Seuyvarda, romelic misi ideali gaxda: _ `cudi~ biWi, mimzidveli mzeriTa da mouridebeli manerebiT. igi im Taobis kerpi
da im epoqis simbolo iyo, romelsac keit mosi miekuTvneboda. es
mamakaci joni depi iyo.
maT erTmaneTi 1994 wels gaicnes da 4 wlis manZilze xvdebodnen. im drois gaxseneba joni
deps dResac ki tanSi Jruantels
hgvris: isini xan Sordebodnen,
xan isev rigdebodnen...
erTi ram ki cxadia:
keits jonis msgavsad
arasdros aravin hyvarebia da verafriT
apatia, rom jonma masTan cecxlovani vnebebiT savse siyvaruls
vanesa paradisTan mSvidi ojaxuri cxovreba
amjobina.
`es Cemi cxovrebis
udidesi siyvaruli
iyo. erTxans `keit depis~ saxeliTac ki vawerdi xels. jons veravin Seiyvarebs ise
Zlierad, rogorc me
miyvarda~, _ TavdajerebiT acxadebda keiti. joni depTan daSoreba misTvis udidesi travma iyo, magram
am tragediidan mravali daskvna gamoitana
da gadawyvita, yvela
damRupveli Cvevisa da
damokidebulebisgan
erTxel da samudamod
gaTavisuflebuliyo.
jonis Semdeg keits
bevri mamakaci hyavda,
magram mis gulSi kvali arc erT
maTgans ar dautovebia.
modelma mxolod 2002
wels scada ojaxis Seqmna gamomcemel jeferson
hekTan, romelmac mas xeli
da guli SesTavaza, magram keitma bolo momentSi uari ganacxada. miuxedavad imisa, rom
wyvils gogona SeeZina,
isini ar daqorwinebulan... keiti hekisgan patara lila greisTan erTad wavida da gamoTxovebisas ganucxada, rom
is misTvis `metismetad
kargi~ iyo. amis Semdeg
mis cxovrebaSi rokerebis era daiwyo. jer
jgufis
Babyshambles
solisti, skandalisti da
alkoholiki pit doerti Seiyvara, Semdeg ki
aseve namdvil rokerTan,
jgufis The Kills gitarist
jeimi hinsTan gaaba romani. `me ojaxsa da urTierTgagebaze vocnebob,
axlobeli adamiani mWirdeba~, _ gulwrfelad ambobs keiti, magram presa
kvlavac mxolod hinsTan
saxe
dakavSirebuli ganxeTqilebisa da
axali skandalebis Sesaxeb wers.
alkoholTan, narkotikebTan da
`cud~ biWebTan dakavSirebuli
problemebis miuxedavad, keiti
Zveleburad sabrZolo formaSia.
yovelTvis, rodesac yviTeli presa mis dasamarebas cdilobs, zRapruli feniqsis msgavsad ferflidan aRdgomas axerxebs... joni
depma tyuilad ki ar Seadara
didi simaRlidan gadmovardnil
katas, romelic mudam TaTebze
eSveba da nebismieri situaciidan gamarjvebuli gamodis!
35 wlis keit mosi mtrebis
jinaze dResac warmatebuli modeli da stilis xatebaa. igi sakuTar aromats Velvet Hour uSvebs,
misi fotosuraTebi Jurnal
Vogue-s garekanze ibeWdeba da
cnobili brendebis sareklamo kampaniebis ucvleli monawilea.
keiti kvlav qmnis sakuTar koleqcias Kate Moss for Topshop. wels ki
koleqciis gafarToebas da sakuTari saxelobis fexsacmlisa da
qalis qveda sacvlis xazis gamoSvebas gegmavs. mis Sesaxeb ukve
ramdenime wigni daiwera, xolo
erT-erTi maTganis mixedviT filmis gadaRebasac ki apireben. ase
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saxe
varskvlavebi
rom, cotac da, keits mSobliuri londonis gareuban kroidonSi Zeglsac daudgamen...
`bavSvobaSi Tavdajerebuloba
maklda da patara mkerdis gamo
saSinlad vitanjebodi. meubnebodnen, rom Woks vgavdi da araseqsualuri viyavi. mogvianebiT kompleqsebisgan sruliad gavTavisufldi. mivxvdi, rom adamians
swored is uxdeba, rac bunebam
uboZa. Cemi yvela nakli ganumeorebeli individualuri stilis
detalad gadavaqcie. keit mosis
tipis models kidev bevrs icnobT? ara mgonia, aseTi mxolod
me var!~ _ amayad acxadebs keiti
da amgvari Tavdajerebulobis
gamo Zeglis dadgmas marTlac
imsaxurebs. man gogonebs sakuTari magaliTiT daumtkica, rom
silamazis standartebs qedi ar
unda mouxaron, stereotipebi
daamsxvrion da iseTebad darCnen, rogorebadac bunebam Seqmna.
megan foksi Jurnal Nulon Magazine-s
oqtombris nomerSi
planetis yvelaze seqsualuri gogonasa da holivudis yvelaze popularuli msaxiobis megan foksis fotosuraTi morigi Jurnalis, kerZod
ki Nulon Magazine-s oqtombris nomris
pirvel gverdze daibeWda. 23 wlis
msaxiobma JurnalisTvis micemul interviuSi sakuTari popularobis Sesaxeb isaubra: `vfiqrob, mediaSi Zalze
xSirad var warmodgenili. ar minda,
rom yovel kviras _ JurnalebSi,
yoveldRe ki _ internetSi viyo. ar
msurs, adamianebi CemiT manamde avaddebodnen, vidre romelime samuSaos
davamTavreb~, _ ambobs megani.
axali filmi maikl
jeqsonis Sesaxeb
popmusikis mefis bolo repeticiebze gadaRebuli videomasalis safuZvelze Seqmnili filmis This
is It bileTebi 2 saaTSi srulad gaiyida. 3000-dan
Tundac erTi bileTis mosapoveblad da imis sanaxavad, Tu rogor atarebda maTi kerpi repeticiebs londonSi daniSnuli koncertis win, jeqsonis
fanatebi bileTebis rigSi sami dRe idgnen... popmusikis mefis Sesaxeb Seqmnil dokumentur filmSi
musikosis repeticiebis 100-saaTiani Canaweris
saukeTeso momentebia Sesuli. suraTis premiera
oqtombris bolos msoflios 25 qalaqSi erTdroulad Sedgeba, misi Cveneba ki mxolod 2 kviris
ganmavlobaSi gagrZeldeba.
Lady Gaga sakoncerto turneSi
keini vestis gareSe miemgzavreba
ai, maSin, erT mSvenier dResac,
adamianebi maTze aiReben orientacias! keit mosi modis industrias ki ar moergo, piriqiT,
modis industria moergo meamboxe da Tavdajerebul Zu mgels.
iseve, rogorc 15 wlis win,
keiti Tavis ganumeorebel stils
kvlavindeburad inarCunebs _
stils, romelic ukve kultad
iqca. igi tansacmels Zveleburad
meorad maRaziebsa da iaffasian
bazrobebze yidulobs, dilamde
klubebSi erToba da kvlav `seqsis, narkotikebisa da rok-en-rolis~ epoqis suliskveTebiT cxovrobs, romelsac man sakuTari interpretacia mianiWa!
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amerikeli momRerali Lady Gaga TayvanismcemelTa imedis gacruebas da sakoncerto turnes CaSlas ar apirebs. mas
Semdeg, rac cnobili gaxda, rom reper
keini vestisa da Lady Gaga-s erToblivi
sakoncerto turne Fame Kills, romelic 10
noembers feniqsSi unda dawyebuliyo, aRar
Sedgeba, momReralma ganacxada, rom igi
gegmebs ar Secvlis da solo koncertebs
gamarTavs. `sakoncerto turnes gadadeba
_ Cveni erToblivi gadawyvetilebaa. keins
mcire xniT dasveneba surs, me ki amas ar
vapireb~, _ ganacxada 23 wlis momReralma.
turnes CaSlis mizezi oficialurad ar
dasaxelebula, magram vesti adre marTlac ambobda, rom ramdenime xniT muSaobis Sewyvetas apirebda.
Lady Gaga sakoncerto turnes dawyebas
noembris Sua ricxvebSi apirebs, manamde
ki publikis SokSi Cagdebis moyvaruli
momRerali Jurnal Vogue-s oqtombris nomrisTvis pozirebiT iyo
dakavebuli. unda iTqvas, rom am fotosuraTebze Gaga marTlac rom
WeSmarit ledis mogvagonebs. mkiTxvelma momRerali fotosuraTze,
bolos da bolos, Cacmulic ixila! albaT swored amitomacaa, rom
fotosesia sakmaod esTetikuri gamovida. mas xom is epataJi aklia,
romelsac Lady Gaga-s fanebi arian SeCveulni.
rubrika
moamzada
nato manjaviZem
eraySi gaTxovili
qarTveli qalis
Zalian Zveli ambavi
50 wlis win 130 sabWoTa
qali
erayis
qalaq
basraSi
Cavida. maT iq wlebis win wasuli, qurTi qmrebi elodnen...
qalebs Soris 3 qarTvelic iyo...
amas winaT erayidan ucnobma mamakacma damireka da miTxra,
Zalian saintereso ambavi maqvs
TqvenTvis mosayoli da miTxariT, rogor SeiZleba, mogawodoTo. davinteresdi da aRmoCnda, rom marTlac, uCveulo SemTxvevasTan mqonda saqme.
Cveni dialogi internetmimoweriT gagrZelda.
mari jafariZe
_ ukve didi xania, eraySi vimyofebi. aq mZRolad vmuSaob satvirTo manqanaze. jariskaci ar gaxlavarT da arc qarTul jarTan maqvs
Sexeba. axlobeli damexmara imaSi,
rom aq wamovsuliyavi, vinaidan maRali Sromis anazRaurebaa da ojaxis rCenis SesaZlebloba maqvs. aqaur
havas Sevegue, ukve aRar miWirs.
xalxsac SeveCvie. erT dRes, Cemi
manqaniT Sor gzaze gadamqonda
tvirTi. quveiTidan basraSi mivdiodi. gzad qalaqi amara unda
gamevlo, romelic mdinare evfratis
pirasaa gaSenebuli. qalaqis ganapiras patara sastumroa. sastumro
hqvia, Torem erTsarTuliani Senobaa, sadac mZRolebi Cerdebian.
nomeri davikave da saRamos iqve,
sastumros sasadiloSi savaxSmod
Sevedi. kerZi SevukveTe da vidre
momitandnen, saqarTveloSi davreke
da ojaxi movikiTxe. roca saubari
davasrule, axalgazrda mamakaci momadga. qarTveli xarTo? _ arabul
enaze mkiTxa. _ ki-meTqi. _ me bebia myavs qarTveli, aq cxovrobs
didi xania, babuaCemze 50 wlis win
gaTxovila; ocnebad aqvs gadaqceuli, qarTvelis naxva da Tu SegiZliaT, uars nu metyviT, aqve vcxovrob, wamomyeviT, moxuc bebias
gaaxarebT, didi xnis sicocxle ar
darCenia da am ocnebas dardad nu
gaayolebTo. Zalian gamikvirda, radgan 50 wlis win sabWoTa wyobilebis
dros qarTveli qalis eraySi gaTxoveba warmoudgenlad momeCvena.
vivaxSme da gavyevi am ucnaur adamians. karga xans viareT fexiT.
cota SemeSinda kidec. naxevrad
miwur saxlTan mivediT. erT oTaxSi iatakze, romlis mTel `avejs~
mxolod xaliCa da baliSebi Seadgenda (erayis mTiani qurTistanis
saxlebis umetesobaSi asea), moxuci
qali ijda. Cemi megzuri masTan
mivida da xmadabla daelaparaka.
qalma uceb amomxeda. wamodga da
Tavdaxrili momiaxlovda. mere
SviliSvils raRac uTxra da isic
oTaxidan gavida. roca marto davrCiT, orive xeli mxrebze momkida
da gulSi Camixuta.
_ dajeqi, _ miTxra qarTulad.
saSineli aqcenti
hqonda. mis win,
iatakze davjeqi. Tvali gamiStera da karga xans miyura. Semdeg Tavisi cxovrebis Sesaxeb miambo. xan
qurTul, xan arabul
enaze
hyveboda,
qarTuli TiTqmis
daviwyebuli hqonda.
waramara imeorebda
_ `hamdula~ (madloba RmerTs!)...
_ Zalian gamiWirda, _ Tvalcremliani hyveboda. _ 1960 wels, sabWoTa kavSiridan qmarTan Camovedi, mas ki aq
ukve coli hyavda. Sen meore iqnebio, _ miTxra. Zalian mewyina...
RamRamobiT radiomimRebs vrTavdi da vinaidan Tbiliss ar iWerda, moskovs vusmendi. Cemi saqarTvelo maxsendeboda da vtirodi, Sin
minda-meTqi. Semdeg omi daiwyo...
TviTmfrinavebi qalaqebs bombavda, ris gamoc iZulebuli gavxdi,
mTebis gavliT, iranSi gadavsuliyavi. erTi Svili kabis kalTaze mebRauWeboda, meore xelSi
myavda ayvanili, mesame ki mucelSi
myavda. Tavbeds viwyevlidi, magram
ras vizamdi?! Cemi qmari yofili
partizani iyo, qurTebis lideris,
mustafa barzanis momxre. masa da
mis TanamebrZolebs sabWoTa kavSirSi TavSesafari stalinma misca. mogvianebiT ki amnistia SeexoT da yvelani samSobloSi dabrundnen. CemTan erTad, 2 qarTveli qali iyo; danarCenebi _ ruse-
gza #42 15.10.2009
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cxovreba
bi. aq rom CamovediT da im qarTvel qalebs davSordi, imis Semdeg
qarTulad aRar milaparakia... Tbiliseli var. Cemi qmaric TbilisSi
cxovrobda mas mere, rac samSoblodan gadmoixvewa. is rom gavicani, jer kidev skolis moswavle
viyavi. aq rom Camovedi da Cemi
qmari daqorwinebuli damxvda, erTi
ambavi avtexe, magram ras gavawyobdi? amaTi kanonis mixedviT, mamakacs
ramdenime colis yola SeuZlia.
mere gavige, rom CemTan erTad Camosuli qalebidan bevri ukan gabrunebula, magram me ver gavbede, radgan
iq saxli gavyide... Tan Cemi qmari
miyvarda. erayma Cemze saSineli STabeWdileba moaxdina. qurTistanSi
rom Camovedi, 25 wlis viyavi.
Tvalebs ar vujerebdi, roca davinaxe, rom saxlebs talaxisgan
aSenebdnen. iseTi Raribebi iyvnen,
iatakze eZinaT. RamRamobiT ki sacxovrebelSi kobrebi Zvrebodnen...
yvelaze metad mezoblebTan urTierToba gamiWirda. aq yvela
sofels Tavisi ena aqvs da sxvadasxva soflis mcxovrebT erTmaneTis ar esmiT. sarecxi rom mqonda
gasarecxi, taSti mezoblisgan unda
meTxova. xeliT vaniSnebdi, rac
mindoda da isini siciliT kvdebodnen. samagierod, me maT kitris
mwnilis, murabisa da wvniani kerZebis gakeTeba vaswavle. amis Semdeg sxva TvaliT Semomxedes da pativsac mcemdnen.
1961 wels qurTistanSi ajanyeba
daiwyo... amis Semdeg, rogorc ki
mSvidoba daisadgurebda, axali omi
iwyeboda... jer iranTan, mere _
amerikelebTan... 30 welia, dausruleblad omia. sadam huseinTan Cemi
angariSi mqonda: misma jariskacebma
sabWoTa obligaciebi wamarTves,
dolari egonaT. kidev, patefoni da
qarTuli firfitebic waiRes. 1980
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bedi
Tema
wels me, Cemi qmari da Svilebi dagvapatimres. separatizmSi dagvdes brali. sabWoTa saelCoSi viCivle,
baRdadSi, magram yuradReba ar momaqcies. 3 wlis Semdeg sapatimro
banakidan satvirTo manqanebiT, 20dan 80 wlamde asakis yvela mamakaci
waiyvanes. maT Soris, Cemi qmarSvilic. amis Semdeg maT Sesaxeb
araferi gamigonia. huseinis cixeebidan cocxali iSviaTad Tu gamodioda vinme... Tumca brZaneba gasces, qalebi ar daexocaT. axla Cemi
qmar-Svilis saflavic ki ar maqvs,
rom vitiro. vici, rom sikvdilis
win isini awames, _ cremliT danamul Tvalebs Zirs xrida moxuci da
tirilisgan mxrebi ucaxcaxebda.
_ am qalma, misi wasvlis
Semdeg ra moxda saqarTveloSi,
amis Sesaxeb Tu icis rame?
daZabuli urTierTobis miuxedavad,
col-qmari
xSirad
mainc erT WerqveS cxovrobs,
raTa
Svilebi
srulfasovan
ojaxSi aRizardon. samwuxarod,
ojaxis patara wevrebs arafers
ekiTxebian. hgoniaT, rom Tavad
ukeTesad ician, Tu ra jobs
bavSvebisTvis da gadawyvetilebebs maT daukiTxavad iReben.
amis gamo Svilebs dedis an
mamis (an orives) mimarT agresiuli ganwyobileba uyalibdebaT. sainteresoa, Tavad ras
fiqroben mozardebi, romelTa
mSoblebsac konfliqturi urTierToba aqvT, rogor ojaxSi
cxovrebaze ocneboben, ra aris
maTTvis
auxsneli
da
gaugebari, ded-mamis saqcielSi...
eTo yorRanaSvili
_ ara, TiTqmis araferi icis.
mkiTxa, komunizmi kidevaa sabWoTa
kavSirSio? ara-meTqi. _ es kargia
Tu cudio? _ visTvis
rogor-meTqi, _ pirdapir pasuxs Tavi avaride.
Turme, Zma hyavda TbilisSi da rac wamovida,
imis Semdeg masze araferi
gaugonia. mere erT mamakacs, romelmac cota
rusuli icoda, misTvis
werili miawerina, sadac
Zmas Seatyobina, rom mokvda: ase sjobda, radgan
imas mainc ar idardebda, rogor viyavio, _
ase amixsna Tavisi saqcieli... oTaxis kedlebze
saqarTvelodan wamoRebuli, ojaxis wevrebis gaxunebuli fotoebi hqonda gakruli... gamixarda, qarTveli
rom vnaxe da qarTuli ena movismine...
xom xedav, Zlivs vixseneb qarTul
sityvebs, magram mainc xom gagagebine Cemi saTqmeli, axla ki mSvidad
movkvdebio... _ miTxra. da kidev,
mTxova, rogorme xma mimewvdina misi
ojaxis romelime wevrisTvis, Tu vinme
gaixsenebs meri gamjanekaSvils...
simarTle giTxraT, gamiWirda
iseTi adamianebis povna, romlebic
sakuTar ojaxur problemebze daufaravad mesaubrebodnen, magram
bolos mainc mivageni ojaxs, romlis TiToeuli wevric gulaxdilad mesaubra. vidre Svilebis azrs
mogaxsenebT, manamde gagacnobT, Tu
riTi xsnian TavianT konfliqtur
Tanacxovrebas col-qmari _ manana
da rezo (maT cal-calke vesaubre).
manana, 45 wlis:
_ Cems momaval meuRles gacnobidan 3 kviris Semdeg gavyevi
colad. yvelaferi moulodnelad
moxda: Cem mimarT yuradRebiani
da alersiani iyo, uamrav Tbil
sityvas meubneboda, mimtkicebda,
rom vuyvardi da qalsac meti ra
unda? avdeqi da gavTxovdi. aRmoCnda, rom Cemi qmari iseTi sulac ar yofila, rogoradac Tavs
maCvenebda. misi yuradReba uyuradRebobam Secvala, alersi _ lanZRva-ginebam da cema-tyepam. sayvareli adamianis aseTi radikaluri cvlilebiT gaognebuli viyavi. yoveldRe kamaTi da Cxubi
saSinlad mTrgunavda.
_ es saxeli
ovaqveyno?
_ Tu gaxsovT,
raze ikamaTeT?
da
gvari
gam-
_ diax, gamoaqveyneT da Tu vinme
gamoCndeba, iqneb uamboT dawvrilebiT, Tu ra gadaxda Tavs maT naTesavs. TviTon suraTi ar aRmoaCnda,
rom moeca... me ki fotoaparati ar
mqonda... samwuxaroa, Tu naTesavebi
mis Sesaxeb waikiTxaven, fotos ver
ixilaven. me mandac Tqveni mkiTxveli viyavi da aqac raRacnairad vaxerxeb, xandaxan mainc gadavavlo Tvali Zvel `gzas~. hoda, gadavwyvite,
es ambavi TqvenTvis momeTxro.
pirvelad
_ magas ra damaviwyebs?! sul
umniSvnelo raRacis gamo gabrazda: televizors vuyurebdiT. mTxova, misTvis wyali mimetana, me ki
samzareuloSi gasvla damezara. _
momitane, Torem gawyeninebo, _
damemuqra, magram misi naTqvami
xumrobad miviRe. adga da wylis
dasalevad samzareuloSi gavida,
Tan gamomZaxa: _ meZavis Svili
xaro!.. dedaCemsa da mis sayvarelze
mTeli samezoblo Woraobda, ris
Tema
roca ganqorwineba
sikeTis momtania...
Svilebis TvaliT danaxuli
mSoblebis urTierToba
gamoc Zalian mrcxvenoda... tirili daviwye: _ kargad icodi,
visi Svilic viyavi da colad
ratomRa SemirTe-meTqi? man ki
xeli saxeSi gamartya... mere bodiSic momixada. mas Semdeg sul asea:
jer Seuracxyofas mayenebs, mere
bodiSs mixdis da mimtkicebs, rom
vuyvarvar. mec vpatiob, magram meore an, ukeTes SemTxvevaSi, mesame
dRes yvelaferi Tavidan iwyeba.
_ Tqveni
giyvarT?
meuRle
dRemde
_ yvelafris miuxedavad, mainc
miyvars, magram iseTi daZabuli
urTierToba gvaqvs, siyvaruli
meaTexarisxovania. ojaxis SenarCunebaze mxolod Cemi siyvarulis gamo namdvilad ar vifiqrebdi. ganqorwinebisgan yovelTvis
Svilebis gamo vikavebdi Tavs. sul
vcdilobdi, bavSvebs mamis mimarT pativiscemis grZnoba hqonodaT (siyvarulze saubari xom zedmetia!), magram masTan erT oTaxSi
yofnac ki uWirT. Cems gogonas
axla ukve Tavisi ojaxi aqvs, biWic male SeirTavs cols da marto xom ar davrCebi?! avad Tu
kargad, amdeni weli me da Cemma
meuRlem erTad vicxovreT da am
siberis Jams xom ar gaveyrebi?!
es sasacilo iqneba.
rezo, 49 wlis (mananas meuRle):
_ colTanac da SvilebTanac
kargi urTierToba maqvs. zogjer
raRac-raRacebze vkamaTobT, magram
aseTi ram yvela ojaxSi xdeba. ar
momwons, roca meurCebian. ojaxis
ufrosi var da me ukeT vici, ra
da rogor! marTalia, materialurad Cemi meuRle uzrunvelgvyofs,
magram ar wamomyva sofelSi da
ra vqna?! me sofleli kaci var,
Cemi meurneoba mqonda da imiT
vSoulobdi lukma-purs, qalaqSi
ra unda vakeTo? mindoda, sofelSi gvecxovra, magram ojaxis wevrebi Cems azrs pativs ar scemen.
erTxel sadilobisas aRvniSne _
ugemuri borSCia-meTqi. etyoba,
cols Cemi SeniSvna ar moewona da
gabrazebulma macivridan imwuTSi gamoRebuli, gayinuli Sokoladis `plitka~ TavSi mesrola _
Subli gamitexa... kidev aqeT aqvs
pretenziebi, _ nu loTobo! rogor ar davlio aseTi avi qalis
Semyurem?! aseTi coli Rirsia, xandaxan wauTaqo xolme.
sainteresoa, rogoria am wyvilis urTierToba maTi Svilebis,
nikasa da gvancas azriT?
nika, 21 wlis:
_ mama dedas saSinlad amcirebs, fizikur Seuracxyofasac ay-
cxovreba
enebs. wlebia, ase grZeldeba. bavSvobidan moyolebuli dRemde, dedas vexvewebi, gaSordes, magram
ase ar iqceva. winaT imedi hqonda,
rom qmari gamosworebis gzas
daadgeboda, axla ki ambobs, _
raRa dros ganqorwinebaao?! gviani arasdrosaa iseTi usindiso
adamianTan daSoreba, rogoric
mamaCemia. dedaCemis wyalobiT, yvelaferi aqvs, rasac moisurvebs da
imis nacvlad, rom cols pativiscemiT eqceodes, loTobs. dalevs
erT-or Wiqas da iwyebs `gaWedvas~. ras erCis qals, romelmac
misi daxmarebis gareSe, yvelafers
sakuTari SromiT miaRwia, ver vxvdebi. iyo dro, roca materialurad, Zalian gviWirda. dedam yvelaferi iRona, raTa siRaribisgan Tavi dagveRwia _ metrosTan
mawonsac ki yidda... taxtze wamokotrialebuli mama ki mxolod imaze
dardobda, _ buzebi mSvidi Zilis saSualebas ar maZleven da
daxoceTo... Cemi da rom gaTxovda,
siZis saxlSi pirvelad me mivedi
da ai, maSin mogvivida me da mamas
pirveli seriozuli konfliqti:
gvanca sanzonaSi gaTxovda. iseT
patara binaSi cxovrobda, SokSi
Cavvardi: ori cicqna, oTaxi hqonda. roca mamaCemma mkiTxa, Seni
dis meuRles ramdenoTaxiani bina
aqvso? _ dabneulma vupasuxe, _
oriani-meTqi. xelebi kmayofilma
moifSvnita. Cemi dis sacxovrebliT iseTi gaognebuli viyavi,
axsna-ganmartebebis Tavi aRar
mqonda. mogvianebiT, mamam, ra Tqma
unda, yvelaferi Seityo. roca gaigo, rom Rataki siZe hyavda da
Tavisi qaliSvili oroTaxian, ukacravad da, soroSi cxovrobda, gulmosuli momvarda, _ simarTle ratom damimaleo?! saSinlad maginebda, matyuaras meZaxda. mTvrali
iyo, rogorc yovelTvis. arc me
vyofilvar fxizeli da roca saxeSi xeli gamartya, Tavi Seuracxyofilad vigrZeni. didi survili
mqonda, `xurda~ damebrunebina, magram Tavi Sevikave. ubralod, dartymis meore mcdelobisas, xeli
davuWire. gamwarda. damejajgura
da kinaRam saxlis aivnidan gadavcvivdiT... dedaCemis ar mesmis,
ratom cxovrobs aseTi uqnaras
gverdiT? misi udidebulesoba _
mamaCemi, ukve brZanebebs iZleva,
_ es manqana aRar momwons, sxva
miyideo! dedis adgilas rom viyo,
manqanas vuyiddi ki ara, sigaretis fulsac ar mivcemdi! saxlidan siamovnebiT wavidodi _ sasmlisgan awiTlebuli mamaCemis si-
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cxovreba
Tema
faTis danaxva guls mirevs, magram dedas ver mivatoveb. meSinia, mag arakacma sabralo qali
cemiT ar moklas.
gvanca, 18 wlis:
_ CemTvis ojaxuri aurzaurisgan Tavis daRwevis erTaderTi saSualeba gaTxoveba iyo da es nabiji amitomac gadavdgi. meuRle
miyvars, magram ase adre ojaxis
Seqmnas ar vapirebdi. mSoblebis
autanel urTierTobas veRar gavuZeli. loTi mama da qmris morCili deda myavs. sul Cxuboben.
ufro sworad, mama umizezod Cxubs iwyebs da dedas xeliTac exeba. maTi konfliqtis momswre
araerTi mezobeli gamxdara. Cveni karis mezobeli, nana deida, mas
Semdeg, rac iatakze waqceuli dedaCemi da danamoRerebuli mamaCemi dainaxa, karga xans SokSi iyo.
policia rom gamoeZaxebina da mama
cixeSi CaesvaT, sul ar damwydeboda guli.
_
iyo?
daniT
muqaris
mizezi
ra
_ Cxubisa da muqarisTvis mamas mizezi ar sWirdeba. magaliTad, kerZi rom ar moewonos, qvabs gazqurazeve amoayiravebs da
aba, vinmem sayveduris Tqma gaubedos! fulic dedam unda iSovos,
saxlic daalagos, sadilic
moamzados da usindiso qmris
SeniSvnebic aitanos... ici, dedaCemi rodis Secda? roca meuRlem
pirvelad miayena fizikuri Seuracxyofa, qmars maSinve unda daSoreboda! TandaTan adamiani yve-
lafers egueba... marTalia, ganqorwinebulebi arasodes yofilan,
magram erTi periodi, cal-calke
cxovrobdnen: mama _ Tavis mSobliur sofelSi, deda _ CvenTan
(SvilebTan), TbilisSi. ici, ra
kargad viyaviT mamis gareSe?! saxlSi misi jujRuni da Rriali
aRar ismoda! dedaCemis iniciativiT, Semdeg isev CvenTan Camovida da jojoxeTic daiwyo...
amas namdvilad veRar gavuZlebdi.
Seyvarebuli myavda da rom SemomTavaza, gaviparoTo, bevri ar
miyoymania. marTalia, materialurad maincdamainc ar gvilxins,
magram simSvidis fasi araferia.
yovelTvis mSvid, mosiyvarule
ojaxSi cxovrebaze vocnebobdi
da imedia, Cemi Svili swored
aseT garemoSi gaizrdeba. meuRle
miyvars da masac Zalian vuyvarvar, erTmaneTs pativs vcemT, yvela problemas erTad vwyvetT...
RmerTma damifaros, magram Tuki
odesme Cemi mSoblebis msgavs
situaciaSi aRmovCndi, qmars zedmeti fiqris gareSe davSordebi.
qalma Rirseba unda SeinarCunos,
Tavi aravis daaCagvrinos. didi
ambavi, Tu bavSvi mamis gverdiT
ar gaizrdeba! rac mTavaria, mSvidad iqneba da Tavis megobrebs
Sin uSiSrad moipatiJebs. imis
dardi ar eqneba, Cemi Tanatolebi saxlSi mSoblebis Cxubis dros
ar damadgneno.
sxva axalgazrdebic gamovkiTxe da
gavarkvie, ras fiqroben isini sakuTari mSoblebis urTierTobaze.
anano, 18 wlis, studenti:
_ xandaxan yvela kamaTobs,
maT Soris _ Cemi mSoblebic,
magram maTi kamaTi konfliqtSi arasodes gadazrdila.
_ Sens mSoblebs Soris
azrTa sxvadasxvaobas ra iwvevs?
_ deda met Tavisuflebas
maZlevs, mama ki cols amis gamo
sayvedurobs. is, cota ar iyos,
Zveli yaidis kacia. saRamos 8
saaTze aucileblad saxlSi
unda viyo (winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, telefons `amifeTqebs~)
da odnav gamomwvevi samosi ar
unda Cavicva... yofila SemTxveva, Sinidan mamis SerCeuli
tansacmliT gavsulvar, magram
universitetis sapirfareSoSi
gamomicvlia da is Camicvams,
rac me momwons. aba, ra vqna?!
monazoniviT marTla ver vivli. deda sul eCxubeba, Svils
ase nu zRudav, codoao, magram yurs ar ugdebs. maTi kamaTi Cemi bralia xolme, ma-
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gza
gram sxva ra viRono?! minda, dedaCemma Cems sasargeblod rames
miaRwios, magram jerjerobiT ar
gamodis...
meri, 15 wlis, moswavle:
_ sami wlis win deda israelSi samuSaod wavida. amitom Cems
mSoblebs urTierToba mxolod
telefoniT aqvT. vici, rom mamas
sayvareli hyavs da es Zalian mwyins. deda xom Cven gamo ucxo
qveyanaSi samuSaod wavida, qmris
aseT saqciels imsaxurebs?! colis
gamogzavnili fuliT Tavis sayvarels saCuqrebiT anebivrebs. minda, rom deda aRar dagvexmaros,
radgan mama ufulod rom darCeba, darwmunebuli var, sayvareli
miatovebs... deda cdilobs, me da
Cems debs araferi mogvaklos, sinamdvileSi ki gamodis, rom qmris sayvarlis saCuqrebiT uzrunvelyofaze zrunavs.
beso, 13 wlis, moswavle:
_ deda sul saxlSia, mama ki
TavisTvis `gulaobs~. karga xani,
rac Cems mSoblebs erTmaneTi aRar
uyvarT. ganqorwinebisgan Tavi imitom Seikaves, rom me gavCndi.
_
eg
vin
giTxra?
_ mTelma sanaTesaom icis, rom
mamas viRac qali uyvars da dedaCemTan ganqorwinebis Semdeg, mis
colad SerTvasac apirebda. CemTvis problema ar iqneboda, Tuki
ded-mama cal-calke icxovrebda.
usiyvarulod ojaxis SenarCunebaze fiqrs azri mainc ar aqvs.
dedis erTaderTi sazrunavi me
var, mamaCemi ki, rogorc giTxari, Tavis pontSi `ajazebs~, ra.
giorgi, 19 wlis, studenti:
_ ra konfliqturi situacia?!
Cems mSoblebs gadasarevi urTierToba aqvT! erTmaneTs ise
mzrunvelad epyrobian, maT Semxedvares, guli agiCuydeba da SeiZleba, Tvalze cremlic mogadges. erTmaneTi uzomod uyvarT. ar
maxsovs, odesme rameze eCxuboT.
zafxulobiT mama mTel ojaxs
dasasveneblad gviSvebs, TviTon
ki samsaxuris gamo umeteswilad
TbilisSi rCeba. roca cols telefoniT urekavs, mokiTxvis Semdeg,
ase eubneba: ana, genacvale, Sen
araferze inerviulo, kargad daisvene, yvelafers me mivxedavo. mere
midis bazarSi, blomad xils yidulobs da mTeli zafxulis ganmavlobaSi kompotsa da murabas
xarSavs. warmoidgine, zis amxela
kaci (cota Ripiani mama myavs) da
murabian qilebs xufavs!.. adre
veWvobdi _ albaT, sayvareli hyavs
da is exmareba-meTqi, magram roca
cxovreba
Tema
Cemi TvaliT vnaxe, supermarketSi
`bankebisTvis~ `kriSkebs~ ra saguldagulod arCevda, Cemi eWvebis
gamo Semrcxva (icinis). davrwmundi, rom misTvis kompotisa da
murabis keTeba imaze bevrad metia, vidre ubralod, hobi... RmerTma Cemi mSoblebi murabasaviT tkbilad da gemrielad Seaberos erTmaneTs!..
ojaxuri uTanxmoebis problemebze, ded-mamas Soris konfliqtis Svilebze gavlenis sakiTxze
sasaubrod, komentaris gakeTeba
fsiqolog sofio verulaSvils
vTxove:
_ moZalade adamiani fsiqologiuri problemebis an daavadebebis matarebelia. fsiqologiurad
gauwonasworebeli adamiani sxvas
dascinis, qedmaRlurad epyroba,
cxviraweuli elaparakeba. xSiria
SemTxveva, roca ojaxSi mamakaci
qalis mimarT Zaladobas iCens,
magram msxverplad ojaxis TiToeuli wevri iqceva. mSoblebs
Soris mudmivi konfliqti Svilis fsiqikaze uaryofiT gavlenas axdens. roca ojaxis wevrebs
erTmaneTTan arajansaRi urTierToba aqvT, bavSvs dabali TviTSefaseba uyalibdeba. SeiZleba,
skola, umaRlesi saswavlebelic
warmatebiT daamTavros, magram is
zogadi unar-Cvevebi _ Tavdajereba, maRali TviTSefaseba, rac
warmatebis miRwevaSi daexmareba,
ar hqondes anu araa gamoricxuli, wiTeli diplomi saxlSi dados da Tqvas, _ vaime, ra cud
saxelmwifoSi vcxovrobo! _ amdenad, saqmianobaSi veranair warmatebas ver miaRwios.
_
gamosavali
raSia?
_ upirveles yovlisa, ojaxs,
romelSic Zaladoba xdeba, unda
vumkurnaloT, rogorc avadmyofuri simptomis matarebels. misma wevrebma fsiqologiur-socialuri reabilitaciis ofisebs unda
mimarTon. magaliTad, saqarTveloSi arsebobs arasamTavrobo organizacia `saxli~, romelic aseT
ojaxebs daxmarebas uwevs. dangrevisgan ojaxis gadarCena, masSi Zaladobis aRmofxvris Sedegad unda
moxdes.
_ Tuki Zaladobis aRmofxvra mainc ver moxerxda?
_ aseT SemTxvevaSi, umjobesia,
col-qmari erTmaneTs daSordes,
radgan ojaxSi arsebuli konfliqturi situacia bavSvze ufro uaryofiT gavlenas axdens, vidre mSoblebis ganqorwinebis faqti.
beds mindobili
yvela adamianis
cxovrebaSi erTxel
mainc dgeba mZime
periodi. TinasTvis is
maSin daiwyo, roca
misma mSoblebma
motacebuli Svilis
ukan dabrunebaze
uari Tqves (`sikeTis
saswauli _ saxli,
sadac siyvaruli
budobs~, `kviris
palitra~, 9 marti,
2009 w.)
marina babunaSvili
ambavi
pirveli
`Sin dabrunebas
ra azri aqvs?!~
Tina jer kidev 16 wlis
iyo, roca masze 4 wliT
ufrosma biWma moitaca.
alekos samxedro samsaxuri axalmovlili hqonda, arc swavlaze fiqrobda da arc muSaobaze. coli ki
uceb mounda, hyoloda. Tina soflis rvawliani skolis damTavrebis Semdeg, Coxatauris saSualo
skolaSi gadavida. swored maSin
SeamCnia alekom lamazi gogona.
ori kvira Soridan uTvalTvalebda, mere biWebs moelaparaka, an
es gogo iqneba Cemi coli, an ara
da, ar vici, Tavs ras avutexavo...
Tqva da Seasrula kidec.
3 dRe da Rame tiroda motacebuli Tina, mSveleli ki ar
Canda. am periodSi, alekos mSoblebi Tinas ojaxSi mividnen da
qaliSvilis xeli sTxoves. eSinodaT, ar gviCivlon patara gogos motacebisTviso, Torem xelis Txova raRad undodaT, roca
biWs Tina ukve wayvanili hyavda?! ufrosebi qorwilze SeTanxmdnen. roca mamam Tina moinaxula, ase uTxra: Sin dabrunebas
raRa azri aqvs? darCi Sens qmarTan da ojaxi ar Searcxvinoo.
ra unda eqna gogos? sikvdilis
tolfasi iyo ucnob adamianTan
erT WerqveS cxovreba, magram
mamas ver SeewinaaRmdega. misi
sityva TinasTvis kanoni iyo. bevri
dro ar gasula da Tina mixvda,
verasdros SeZlebda alekos Seyvarebas. qmars saSineli simTvrale
hqonda. dRe ar gavidoda, ar
daelia da Sin misuli, maincdamainc cols erCoda.
amonaridi werilidan: `erTxelac, morigi Cxubis Semdg, roca
dalilavebul-daJeJili adgilebi cota mouSuSda, mamamTilma
xeli mohkida rZals da mSoblebs
miuyvana, _ Cemi feTiani Svilis xelSi es angeloziviT gogo
mecodeba, meSinia, raime ubedureba ar autexos Tavs. Tu
aleko Wkuaze movida, xom kargi,
Tu arada, gogo cema-tyepas mainc
iqneba garidebulio. mixvdnen
Tinas mSoblebi, Secdoma dauSves,
imdResve rom ar wamoiyvanes
Svili, magram raRa eSveleboda
saqmes?! Tinam imdeni inerviula,
mucelic moeSala da dardsa da
tirilSi atarebda dReebs~.
mamam Tinas gansakuTrebuli
kontroli dauwesa: xumroba xom
ar iyo _ mis lamaz Tinikos
ganaTxovris saxeli hqonda! soflad aseTi qalis mimarT yuradRebac da cnobismoyvareobac
gaaTmagebulia. moeneebs rom bevri salaparako ar miscemodaT,
Tina gareT arc ki gamodioda
da karCaketilad cxovrobda.
bolos, Tbilisidan Casul naTesavs Seebrala 18 wlis gogo da
gza #42 15.10.2009
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cxovreba
mis mSobels uTxra: CemTan waviyvan, Cems SvilTan erTad iqneba,
masTan gulsac gadaayolebs. Tan
vaswavli da roca saferSlos
daamTavrebs, muSaobasac davawyebinebo. ciuri qvrivi iyo da
Tinaze 3 wliT ufrosi gogona,
magda hyavda. ciuri eqimi gaxldaT da saavadmyofoSi, Terapiul ganyofilebaSi muSaobda. magda da Tiniko Zalian dauaxlovdnen erTmaneTs, bevrs debic egonaT, roca quCaSi erTad daseirnobdnen.
ciurim piroba Seasrula. saferSlo teqnikumis damTavrebis
Semdeg Tinas TavisTan daawyebi-
na muSaoba. iq gaicno nika,
romelic samedicinos amTavrebda da saavadmyofoSi internaturas gadioda. nikam imdeni qna,
ukareba gogos Tavi Seayvara.
Tinam Tavisi warsulis Sesaxeb
uambo. dainaxa, nikas saxeze
rogor gadaurbina Crdilma, magram araferi SeimCnia. mxolod
es uTxra: CemTvis Sens warsuls
mniSvneloba ar aqvs, radgan,
erTmaneTi gviyvarso. biWi arwmunebda, rom erT weliwadSi,
rogorc ki praqtikas daasrulebda, TinasTan xels moawerda, magram... gaigo Tu ara Tina orsulad rom iyo, praqtikis dasrulebas aRarc daeloda (albaT
es ubralod, mizezi iyo, Torem
Tavisi saqme adreve hqonda mokvaraxWinebuli), ise gaqra saavadmyofodan. Tinam Zalian idarda. aborti gaikeTa, muSaobas Tavi
daaneba da isev Sin Caiketa. kidev
kargi, ciuri da magda Tbili
da mosiyvarule adamianebi iyvnen,
Torem sofelSi arafris dideb-
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gza
iT ar dabrundeboda da Tavsac
raimes autexda. isev am ori adamianis daxmarebiT sZlia depresias. amjerad, ciurim kerZo
klinikaSi daawyebina muSaoba.
gavida wlebi... ukve 32-is iyo,
roca wveulebaze rezos Sexvda.
is mSenebeli gaxldaT, sakuTari
kompania hqonda da warmatebul
saqmianobas eweoda.
ambavi
meore
`saswaulia, aba, ra!~
arc eZebda axals da aRarc
undoda siyvaruli, radgan orjer didi imedgacrueba da
tkivili gadaitana. rezos ki
Zalian moewona Tina, misi ambavi gaikiTxa, magram qalis warsulma ar SeaSina: mere ra, rom
ganaTxovari hqvia?! albaT ar
Sexvda Rirseuli da imitomac
daSordao. Tina aSkarad gaurboda, masTan marto darCenas. Tavs
aridebda. rezos far-xmali ar
dauyria. magdas dauaxlovda,
icoda, rom igi Tinas mesaidumle iyo. magda moixibla rezoTi
da Tinikos waramara imas eCiCineboda, _ bedi karze mogdgomia da uars nu etyvio.
bolos da bolos, Tinam SiSi
dasZlia da beds miendo.
rezom Zalian male moinadira
yvelas guli. Tinac TandaTan
`gaTba~ da mixvda, misi undobloba Tvalsa da xels Sua gaqra.
mis gverdiT aSkarad Rirseuli
mamakaci idga.
gavida 5 weli. Svili ki arada ar uCndebodaT. amaSi Tina
sakuTar Tavs adanaSaulebda _
mas xom pirveli orsuloba moeSala, meore ki xelovnurad TviTon Sewyvita. kvlav dardiT
aivso: rezos ver gavabedniereb,
arada, es kaci bednierebis Rirsiao _ eubneboda magdas. rezo
mixvda, Tu ra cecxli trialebda colis gulSi da aseTi ram
SesTavaza Tinas: modi, bavSvi
viSviloT da gavzardoT. gana,
marto isaa Seni Svili, visac
gaaCeno?! Tina karga xans yoymanobda, magram bolos dasTanxmda.
biWi aiyvanes, giga daarqves. maT
saxlSi pataris gamoCenam didi
sixaruli moitana, magram win
kidev ufro didi da sasiamovno
siurprizi elodaT.
giga 4 wlis iyo (Tina am dros
ukve 40-is gaxldaT), roca rezos eWvi gaumxila: mgoni, orsulad varo. amiT imdenad gaognebuli iyo, rom eqimTan wasvlac ver gadaewyvita... rogorc
iqna, eqoskopiaze mivida da _
male deda gaxdebiTo, _ uTxres.
yvelafers ifiqrebda, magram 40
wlisas bedi Tu gauRimebda da
sakuTar Svils aRirsebda, namdvilad, ver warmoidgenda...
dRes Tinasa da rezos ojaxi
marTlac, bednieria. Tina Rrmad aris darwmunebuli _ rom
ara udedmamo bavSvis Svilad
ayvanis madli, dedobriv sixaruls verasdros eziareboda.
magda, Tinas mamidaSvili:
_ ver warmoidgenT, ra dReSi
iyo Tina, sanam rezos Sexvdeboda. saSinlad sasowarkveTili
gaxldaT da aravis danaxva ar
undoda. mixaria, rom Rirseul
adamians Sexvda. arada, mas ukve
yvela kaci erTnairi _ loTi,
agresiuli, SfoTisTavi da matyuara egona. rezoSi ki yvela saukeTeso Tvisebaa Tavmoyrili. man
azradac ar gaivlo Tinikos mitoveba, roca colma Tavad uTxra,
_ albaT, Svils ver gagiCen da
modi, gavSordeTo... swored, rezos kategoriuli moTxovniT
moxda gigas Svilad ayvana. erTi
Tvisac ar iyo, roca igi Sin
miiyvanes. dRes giga 9 wlisaa,
mariami _ 5-is. mTeli maTi
ojaxi ki siyvaruliTa da sikeTis madliTaa savse...
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uSiSroebis arqividan
stalinis dedis ucnobi dRiuri anu
gauxmaurebeli faqtebi
beladis cxovrebidan
`aqeT-iqiT CurCuli atexes:
soso bunti kaci gaxdao...~
mas Semdeg, rac saqarTveloSi sabWoTa uSiSroebis arqivi
gaixsna, uamrav saidumlo dokuments Soris, mkvlevrebma siZvelisgan gayviTlebul da dafurclul dRiurs miagnes. aRmoCena
sensaciis tolfasi iyo, radgan xelnaweri stalinis dedas _
ekaterine juRaSvils, imave kekes ekuTvnoda. fragmentebi kekes
dRiuridan,
cnobili
ucxouri
gamocemebis
furclebze
ukve
moxvda da mecnierTaTvis axali gansjis sagnad iqca. istorikosebi varaudoben, rom stalinma ar icoda dedis am gulaxdili
memuarebis arsebobis Sesaxeb, winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi dRiuri
Cvenamde verc moaRwevda...
ema tuxiaSvili
kekes mogonebebi
`Cemi Tavi Rambareulidan maxsovs. auarebeli Waobebis gamo igi
cieb-cxelebis buded iyo gadaqceuli. amitom Tavze xelaRebuli
unda yofiliyo adamiani, iq rom
ecxovra.
Rambareuli Cemi mSoblebis samSoblo ar yofila. isini sveneTelebi iyvnen. mamaCemi xelobiT meWurWle iyo. dedac da mamac amilaxvrebis ymebad iTvlebodnen, magram mamaCemma batonis ujiaTobas rom ver gauZlo, sveneTidan gaiqca da col-SviliT
Rambareuls Seafara Tavi.
me myavda ori Zma _ gio da
sandala. mama cieb-cxelebam
Seipyro da saSinel tanjvaSi
daalevina suli. Cvens bedze
batonymoba gadavarda da dedaCemis rCeviT gorSi gadavsaxldiT. droebiT naTesavebTan vcxovrobdiT. Tu RambareulSi mudam Tavi mimZimda
da gabruebuli viyavi, aq gamovcocxldi, movmagrdi, Cems
tolebSi saxarbielo da Tavmomwone qali Seviqeni.
Zmebs Suamavlebic mouvida.
beso juRaSvils Cemi Txovna
undoda. igi qarglad muSaobda fexsacmelebis saxelosnoSi. niSnobamac ar daayovna.
qorwilic didi gavaCaReT. ori
mejvare gvyavda. ufrosma mejvarem, iakof egnataSvilma didi
amagi dagvdo ojaxis SeqmnaSic da merec. bednier qalad
mimaCnda Tavi, Cemi beso kargi
meojaxe kaci gamodga.
besos winaprebi mejogeebi gaxldnen, amitomac joganeebs eZaxdnen Turme. ise, sul sxva gvaris,
gerelebi yofilan. gerelebi
didad SeuwuxebiaT mTidan wamosul osebs. besos winaprebi maCablebs SeuwynarebiaT da liloSi
dausaxlebiaT.
besom Tavis saqme gaaumjobesa
da sakuTari saxelosno gaxsna. erTi
wlis Semdeg ki Cveni bedniereba
imiT dagvirgvinda, rom biWi SegveZina. beso kinaRam gadairia six-
cxovreba
aruliT da didi naTlobac gaaCaRa. Tumca sixaruli mwuxarebiT
Segvecvala, radganac bavSvi ori
Tvisa gardagvecvala.
meore wlis Tavze meore biWi
SegveZina, magram arc am bavSvs
ewera dRegrZeloba, isic naadrevad gardamecvala.
mesamec biWi meyola. naTloba
davaCqareT, mounaTlavi rom ar
gardagvcvloda. dedaCemma wminda
giorgis Sana dahkida bavSvs yelze
da besos uTxra: gorSi wavideT
saRmrTos Sesawirado.
ai, es ambebi gadagvxvda Cemi
sosos SeZenamde.
_ Tumca bavSvi cocxali SegvrCa, magram Zalian susti agebulebis gamodga. metad nazi iyo,
kakaroti, xorci ver movakidebineT. sadme avadmyofoba rom gaCeniliyo, pirveli mas daetakeboda
xolme. saWmelSi ejavreboda xorceuli, samagierod, lobios Wamda
madianad.
erTxel orqarze jdomis gamo
ena Cauvarda. yvelas egona, sosos
avi suli daeca da kvdebao, magram bavSvi gadagvirCa. es avadmyofoba ki imis sababi gaxda, rom
soso gorSi salocavad wagveyvana. cxvari SevwireT, paraklisic
gadavixadeT, magram bavSvma mxolod maSin amoiRo xma, roca
gasaTxovari qali, `avi suliT Sepyrobili~, ufskrulSi gadahkides
`mosarCenad~, sosom ikivla da
gulSi Camekra.
sosom naadrevad aidga ena.
uyvarda yvavilebi, gansakuTrebiT RiRilo da gvirila. gvirila misTvis `zizi~ iyo. am
zizis wyalobiT avadgmevineT
fexi me da dedaCemma.
ramdenadac bednieri viyavi
Svilis dRegrZelobiT, imdenad ubeduri viyavi im mxriv,
rom Cemma besom smas umata.
waxda meojaxe kaci. Tavs veRar
dasZlia. yvelaferi karSi
gahqonda, ojaxi saerTod aRar
agondeboda.
Cemi soso metad mgrZnobiare bavSvi iyo. mamis simReras
rom gaigonebda, maSinve momekvreboda da mTxovda: mezoblebTan SevafaroT Tavi,
sanam mama daiZinebs, Torem isev
gagajavrebso.
soso mamis saqcielze Zalian
naRvlobda, gulCaTxrobili
Seiqna, tolebSi arc ki gadioda. mezoblisgan arsenas
leqsi gaego da mTxovda: Cqara
maswavle wigni, `arsena~ wavi-
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cxovreba
kiTxoo. mec mindoda misi skolaSi mibareba, magram beso sxvanairad fiqrobda: biWs Cemi xeloba
unda vaswavloo. aswavla kidec,
magram bavSvi avad gamixda, yvavilma kinaRam Tan gadaitana.
gadamirCa Svili sikvdils. mezoblebi xels miwyobdnen, soso
rom momagrebuliyo da Cemi codviT iwvodnen. besos misi saxelosnoSi wayvana aRar uxsenebia. mibrZana: kargad asvi, aWame da moaZliereo. imas ki ar kiTxulobda,
riTi da rogor?..
ramdeni Rame gamitarebia tirilSi. dRisiT ver vbedavdi, an ki
rogor gavbedavdi, roca bavSvze
Zalian moqmedebda Cemi cremli.
metyoda xolme: dedi, ar itiro,
Torem mec vitirebo.
soso momjobinda Tu ara, wigni
moikiTxa. mec mindoda misi saswavlebelSi miyvana, magram beso
Tavs iklavda: naswavli Svili
daRupvad mimaCniao. mTavaria bavSvi
kargad gyavdes, xeloba rom Sevaswavlo, xom xedav, me aRar vvargivaro. bolos Sevexvewe: puris mcxoblad davdgebi an mrecxavad,
oRond bavSvi uswavleli ar damrCes-meTqi, magram isev sastiki
winaaRmdegi iyo.
Cemi ocnebis ganxorcielebaSi
Carkvianis ojaxma Semiwyo xeli.
maTi ufrosi Svili, kote sasuliero saswavlebelSi swavlobda da
Tavis dasa da Zmasac amecadinebda. kotem sosos swavlebac ar
daizara da erT kviraSi dedaena
sul gadaabulbulebina.
enkenis TveSi qristefore mRvdlis daxmarebiT, sasuliero seminariaSi SevitaneT gancxadeba. bavS-
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gza
uSiSroebis arqividan
vi gamocdebze dauSves da soso
imdenad momzadebulad cnes, rom
`sredSi~ (saSualo) miiRes. besom
sul cecxli moikida: bavSvs ratom miRupavTo.
dro gadioda... soso pirveli
moswavle iyo da gadadioda
klasidan klasSi. es ar axarebda
besos da saerTod aiRo xeli
muSaobazec. ojaxi iakof egnataSvilis wyalobiT ar dagveRupa. beso
smas ar anebebda Tavs da ojaxis
gasawylebis mizezad me masaxelebda.
sul meCxubeboda da mabralebda,
Svili wamarTvio. erTxelac Zalian
mTvrali movida, Cemze gamoiwia
sacemrad da soso ZaliT waiyvana
saxelosnoSi. Cemi Zmebic moviSvelie, naTlia iakofic da maswavleblebic. beso gajiutda, veravis davanebeb Cems Svils, axlac
iseTi waRebi Sekra, rogorc mironio, _ ambobda. bolos saswavleblis ufrosic Caeria. yvelani
arcxvendnen, aseTi niWieri Svili
gyavs, Tavi unda mogqondes, Sen ki
xels uSli swavlaSio. gaWra qveynis xmam... magram besom es Sercxvenad miiRo, iTakila da samudamod
moSorda ojaxs.
besos wasvlis Semdeg Zalian
gamiWirda cxovreba. garSemo myofebi ki mexmarebodnen, magram rodemde unda vyofiliyavi sxvis kmayofaze. sakuTari marjvena avamuSave
da araviTar Sav samuSaos ar veridebodi. sarecxsac ki ar vTakilobdi. Semdeg ukve kerva daviwye.
niWi aRmomaCnda da gorSi saxeli
gamivarda, rogorc sabnebis
saukeTeso damliandagebels. sabnebidan sacvlebis kervaze gadavedi, Semdeg kabebis. erTi sityviT,
nemsis wveri Seiqna Cemi da Cemi biWis macxovrebeli.
sxva saxsari me ar
gamaCnda.
swored am xanebSi gorSi orma dam
tansacmlis samkervalo gaxsna da
TavisTan mimiwvies.
sruli Cvidmeti
weli davrCi iq da
TavCaRunuli vmuSaobdi. nemsis
wveri ar damigdia,
rac damifases. ase
vinaxavdi Cems patara sosos, roca
besom Tavi dagvaneba.
Cemi garjilobiT bavSvis guli
ar damiCagria da
yvelafers Tavis droze vaZlevdi,
umamoba rom ar edardna. soso
ramdenjerme gadamirCa sikvdils.
iyo aseTi ubeduri SemTxveva, roca
bavSvi xelidan kinaRam gamomecala. maSin is ukve skolaSi dadioda. saR-salamaTi gavistumre saswavlebelSi da xelze gadasvenebuli momiyvanes Cemi Svili. Turme
gakveTilebidan Sin rom wamosula, duqnis maxloblad, kopinovs
meore trotuaridan dauZaxnia:
gadmodi, raRac unda giTxrao.
sosoc quCis ruze gadamxtara da
kopinovisken wasula. am dros gamoqanebula faetoni, dasjaxeboda da
kinaRam cxenebs gadaeTela. bavSvi
grZnobadakarguli moiyvanes. mTeli ori kviris ganmavlobaSi enaCavardnili myavda. didi amagi damdo ferSalma, romelmac eqimi
lubomudrovi moiyvana. oriveni
yoveldRe dadiodnen, manugeSebdnen. Semdeg TavisiT movida eqimi
saakovi, isic keTili kaci iyo.
gaego Tu ara, aseTi da aseTi bavSvi
ukvdebaTo, maSinve CvenTan gaCnda.
arc erT eqims ar auRia gasamrjelo. yvelani gulwmindad mexmarebodnen da bavSvis sicocxle maCuqes. soso mesame kviraSi ukve skolaSi gavistumreT. saakovma jibis
fulad maneTiani aCuqa Cems biWs.
rogorc vTqvi, Cemi da besos
cxovreba erTad SeuZlebeli iyo,
beso TviTonve mixvda da aki amitomac gadasaxlda TbilisSi. Tumca iq bavSvis siyvaruls Seuwuxebia da ramdenjerme Cemi gulis
mosalbobad, groSebic ki gamomigzavna bavSvis saxelze. bolos
Serigebasac mexveweboda. fics
debda, biWs Tavze davadgebi da
arc saswavleblidan gamoviyvano.
uSiSroebis arqividan
es rom Cemma Zmebma gaiges, datrialdnen da cdilobdnen SeverigebineT. yvelaferSi me madanaSaulebdnen: radgan besos ar unda,
nu aswavli bavSvs, vin vis gamosdgomia, rom eg Tavisi swavliT
Sen gamogadgeso.
me tirili wamskda, gadaWriT
vuTxari uari: isev karis maval
glaxad vivli da Svils skolidan
ar gamoviyvan-meTqi. vumtkicebdi:
Tundac besos Sevurigde, smaze
xels ar aiRebs-meTqi. mereda ra
Cinebulad swavlobs bavSvi, mTeli saswavlebeli sul magis qebaSia. dedas gverdiT aseTi Svili
hyavdes da saswavleblidan gamoiyvanos? ra sisulelea. magan
unda iswavlos, vidre cocxali
var, ver vuRalateb-meTqi.
an rogor vuRalatebdi, maswavleblebi sul Cemi Svilis qebaSi iyvnen. svimon gogliCiZem
icoda Tqma: Seni Svili iseTi
xmis patronia, rom qveyanas
gaakvirvebso. rakiRa sosoSi niWier bavSvs vxedavdi da yvelani
mis qebaSi iyvnen, Cemi TavisTvis
bevri ram damiklia, magram misTvis arasdros miRalatnia.
ramdenjer Cemi Svilis TavTan
miTenebia Rame. sul imas vnatrobdi, Svili moswrebuli gamexadna,
damevaJkacebina, vidre ZalRone mimtyunebda da sibere gamtexda welSi. amisrulda natvra, Svili
damivaJkacda, amxanagebis Tvali
Seiqmna. sasuliero saswavleblis
damTavrebis Semdeg yvelani milocavdnen, pirvel moswavled iTvleboda yovelTvis. axla is mafiqrebda, seminariaSi rogor Semeyvana Cemi Svili. wvadagvaSi
gamozrdili biWiko vaJkaciviT
wamomadga Tavze da ukve qalaqisken unda gamestumrebina. Cemi
soso ise moiCita da damivaJkacda, erTxelac ar momSorebia. is
uCemod ver Zlebda, me ki uimisod, magram mas uyvarda swavla
da misdami wyurvilma bolos Cemi
Tavic daaTmobina.
sososTvis es pirveli ambavi
iyo, rom goridan gareT gavida.
Zalian moewona matarebeli. eCqareboda qalaqSi misvla. avWalas
rom mivuaxlovdiT, uecrad moiwyina da atirda. guli gamiskda,
avad xom ar gamixda-meTqi. Turme
mas sxva dardi awuxebda:
_ dedilo, qalaqSi rom
mivalT, mama momnaxavs, momitacebs
da meCeqmeobas momindomebs, me ki
swavla mwyuria. Tu ase momeqceva,
Tavs moviklav da meCeqmeobas ar
vindomeb.
davamSvide, rom xels veravin
SeuSlida.
qalaqSi CasvlisTanave binis
Sovnas Sevudeqi. marTalia, naTesavebi blomad megulebodnen, magram aravis Sewuxeba ar mindoda.
saxli arc ise advilad viSove,
rogorc megona. dRe Tavze maTendeboda, roca erTma somxis qalma
damiTmo bina.
axla seminaria unda momenaxa.
naTesavebi damexmarnen da soso
gamocdebze dauSves. daiwyo
gamocdebi, Zalian vRelavdi. gorSi
wavedi, nemsis wveri davatriale.
vcdilobdi, saCqarod momegrovebina erTi asiode maneTi da gadamegzavna seminariaSi Sesatanad,
magram ori dRec ar iyo gasuli,
depeSiT macnobes: Tqvenma Svilma
ise gasaxelaT, saxelmwifo xarjze miiReso. erTi Tvis Semdeg,
soso seminariis formaSi gamowyobili vnaxe da sixaruliT bevri
vitire.
pirvel xanebSi didad vdardobdi umisobas. mTel Rameebs vaTevdi fiqrebsa da cremlSi. Cemi
soso hgrZnobda, ra Zneli iqneboda CemTvis martooba, amitomac
kviraSi or-orjer mwerda werilebs, mamxnevebda, manugeSebda:
male amogiyvan gaWirvebidano. TiToeuli werili asi wlis sicocxles mmatebda. Cavikravdi gulSi
da RamiTac erTad viZinebdiT.
yoveldRe unda gadamekiTxa xolme.
soso seminariaSic kargad swavlobda. nemsis wveriT gamozrdili
vaJkacis danaxvaze, Tavs rodi
vujerebdi, Cemi Svili rom iyo.
maxsovs, pirvelad rom mewvia saSobaod, Tavis ulufidan gadarCenili Saqaric ki momitana xelsaxocSi gaxveuli. sul muWanaxevari iqneboda. magram ise gamaxara am patara ZRvenma, mTeli weliwadi gamovizoge. patar-patara
kvnitiT pirs vimtkbarebdi, rom
Cemi Svilis surneli megrZno.
dro gadioda... vatyobdi, soso
rac vaJkacdeboda, imdenad gulCaTxrobili xdeboda. nel-nela
aqeT-iqiT CurCuli atexes da bolos aSkarad gamagones: soso bunti kaci gaxdao. gavqandi qalaqSi,
vinaxule Svili. gamwyrali damxvda: ra mogarbeninebda, an ra Seni
saqmea, ras vizraxav da ras arao.
mewyina aseTi mkvaxe pasuxi. es pirveli SemTxveva iyo, Svilma guli
rom matkina. bolos sosom Tavs
dasZlia, Sublze makoca da damamSvida: arc vbuntob da arc
araferio. es ki misi pirveli
tyuili iyo.
cxovreba
magram gamarTlda mezoblebis
CurCuli. sosom sxva gza airCia,
risTvisac seminarias fexi hkra
da qva miayara. Semdeg muSebSi
siaruliT gaerTo da saerTod
aRar mnaxulobda. bolos isic
gavige: buntisTvis cixeSi miabrZaneso. isev qalaqSi gaviqeci.
qalaqSi SezarxoSebul besos gadaveyare. gaavebuli meCxubeboda:
rad wamarTvi Cemi Svili, Sen rom
saswavlebelSi ar migeyvana, axla
`gaCestili~ ustabaSi meyoleboda, axla ki cixeSia gamomwyvdeuli, rad minda aseTi Svili, me
TviTon movklavo.
Zlivs davaRwie misgan Tavi. cixeSi ar SemiSves, magram erTi kacis piriT sosom Sematyobina: ar
SeSinde, kargad var da sul male
ginaxulebo. roca ki ubedureba
damtexia, an dauWeriaT, an gaucimbirebiaT, yovelTvis axerxebda
da Tavis ambavs matyobinebda igi.
movrCeT ubedurebebs...
ra bednierebaa, gulis wadili
rom aisrula Cemma sosom yvela
Cagrulis meTvalyure da mfarveli Seiqna. netavi, besoc moswreboda am Cveni siamayis naxvas. enacvalos deda, soso didad
datvirTulia, magram arc axla
miviwyebs da patara dros ipovis
Tu ara, gamamxnevebs xolme. ai,
axlac, naTelas suraTi miviRe...
me ki kaklis muraba gavugzavne.
axla es patara suraTi sul gulTan maqvs mixatuli. esaa Cemi tkbili sizmrebis momgvreli, rom
Cemi damtirebeli naTela iqneba...
1935 weli~.
P.S. ibeWdeba Ss saministros Jurnal `saarqivo moambis~ masalebis mixedviT.
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cxovreba
emigranti
`d’artanianis~ daSnidan
qirurgis skalpelamde
anu qarTveli warmatebuli qirurgi moskovSi
rubrika `emigrantis~ arsebobis
grZel gzaze vis
aRar gadavyrivarT
_ maswavleblebs,
musikosebs, dedebs,
Svilebs, studentebs
da mokled vis _
ara... axla ki `gzis~
stumari arc meti,
arc naklebi emigranti qirurgia,
Tanac warmatebuli
qirurgi, romelic
dRes moskovSi
moRvaweobs. bevri
saubriT Tavs aRar
SegawyenT, nel-nela
mivyveT daviT doliZis saintereso cxovrebis gzas.
bavSvobidan tanmaRals sporti Zalian uyvarda, gansakuTrebiT kalaTburTi da farikaoba. monacemebic hqonda da SeiZleba, am sferoSi mieRwia kidec seriozuli warmatebisTvis,
rom ara, dedis Careva. qalbatoni rusiko albaT dumbaZiseuli olRa bebiasaviT fiqrobda _ Cemi vaJiSvili eqimi unda
gamovides, rom movxucdebi momivliso... ase mivida daviT
doliZe `dartanianis~ daSnidan qirurgis skalpelamde.
ani agulava
angelozi mxarze da farnis
Suqze gakeTebuli operacia
warmatebiT daamTavra Tbilisis
53-e saSualo skola da Semdeg
Tbilisis saxelmwifo samedicino
universitetis samkurnalo fakulteti. erTi weli meore klinikur
saavadmyofoSi qirurgad imuSava.
saerTod, qirurgobisTvis, marto
swavla ar yofila sakmarisi, kargi
qirurgi xeliT fasdeba. swored
qirurgis xelebzea damokidebuli
adamianis janmrTelobac da sicocxlec.
`medikosebSi gamoTqma arsebobs:
roca operacias pirvelad akeTeb,
mxarze angelozi gazis da is operacia yovelTvis warmatebuliao.
albaT Cems SemTxvevaSic ase iyo
_ pirveli operacia warmatebiT
Cavatare, miuxedavad imisa, rom
maSin, 90-ian wlebSi, am procesisTvis ar iyo yvela saWiro piroba; qveyanas uSuqoba, ugazoba da
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bevri ramis uqonloba awuxebda;
maxsovs, erTi operaciis dros Cveulebrivi naTura meWira xelSi, vunaTebdi, operacias mis Suqze vakeTebdiT~, _ ixsenebs daviT
doliZe.
qarTvelobis
pasuxismgeblobis faqtori
cxadia, areul qveyanaSi profesionalad CamoyalibebisTvis ar
arsebobda xelsayreli pirobebi
da Cvenma respondentmac moskovs
miaSura. swavla da muSaoba ruseTis eqimTa daxelovnebis institutSi, botkinis saxelobis saavadmyofos bazaze arsebul qirurgiis kaTedraze gaagrZela. dRes
ukve profesoria.
_ moskovSi rom gadavedi, kaTedris xelmZRvaneli _ batoni
robert mumlaZe akademikosi iyo
(dResac is aris), romelmac pirdapir gamafrTxila _ sxvebze metad
Sen mimarT ufro momTxovni viqnebi, radganac qarTveli xaro.
moskovur samedicino akademiaSi
qirurgisTvis yvela etapi gaviare, Cemi mizani namdvil profesionalad Camoyalibeba iyo. saqmes
yovelTvis pasuxismgeblobiT
vekidebi, kargad vici, rom pacientis sicocxle Cemzea damokidebuli.
skalpeli da... daSna
farikaoba moskovSic ver daiviwya, 25 wlis Semdeg kvlav daSna
aiRo xelSi da Tqven warmoidgineT, warmatebasac miaRwia _
SarSan ruseTis Tasis mflobeli
gaxda!
`farikaoba samefo sportia. is
mexmareba siZneleebis gadalaxvaSi da janmrTelobis SenarCunebaSi~, _ ambobs batoni daviTi. swored regularuli varjiSis wyalobaa, rom Cveni respondenti warmatebiT atarebs mravalsaaTian operaciebs.
SarSandeli agvistos movlenebis Semdeg, ruseT-saqarTvelos
daZabuli urTierTobis fonze,
rusi moqalaqeebisgan qarTvel
qirurgs ar ugrZnia uaryofiTi
damokidebuleba. es gasagebicaa,
radganac daviTs moskovSi rogorc erT-erT saukeTeso specialists, ise afaseben.
moskovi-Tbilisi-moskovi
dabrunebaze daviTi jerjerobiT ar fiqrobs, radgan TbilisSi
iseTi samuSao pirobebi ar aris,
rogoric Cveni mezobeli qveynis
dedaqalaqSi. Tumca sasikeTo saqmes
ukve Sesdgomia. daviT doliZe
momavalSi drodadro moskovsa da
TbilisSic operaciebis Catarebas
apirebs. is ki ara, Sesabamisi umaRlesi kategoriis klinikis Camoyalibebac aqvs gadawyvetili...
samyaro
seni, romelic SesaZloa,
rokmusikam dagmarTos
feradi minis namsxvrevebi da gitaromania
`niWierebiT daavadebulma~ giorgi jafariZem 7 wlis asakSi
saTamaSoebis
damzadeba
scada
da
gamouvida
kidec;
wlebis
Semdeg rokmusikis siyvarulma eleqtronul gitaraze dakvrisken,
mere ki instrumentis damzadebisken ubiZga. udavod, Zalian
niWieri unda iyos adamiani, rom Tanabari profesionalizmiT
SeuTavsos erTmaneTs musikis wera da instrumentis sxvadasxva
masalisgan damzadeba, maswavlebloba da dizaineroba.
sofo minaSvili
_ bavSvobidan sul raRacas
vWridi da vawebebdi, vSlidi da
vawyobdi, meore klasidan ki saTamaSoebis damzadeba daviwye. Tu maRaziaSi raime momewoneboda, amas
xmamaRla ar vityodi, aravis vTxovdi, miyide-meTqi, Sin mosuli ki
vcdilobdi, msgavsi ram Tavad Semeqmna. maxsovs, erTxel mezoblis
bavSvma CemTan kaleidoskopi
Semoitana. mas vTxove, cota xans
eTxovebina, mere ki kargad davakvirdi _ garedan Cveulebrivi muyaos
mili iyo, SigniT rom Cavixede,
lamazi naxatebi trialebda. ver
moviTmine da davSale _ masSi ferasac
rasac aq
aq xedavT,
xedavT, nimuSis
nimuSis
saxiT
saxiT maqvs
maqvs __ ar
ar vyidi
vyidi
radi minis namsxvrevebi eyara da 3
grZeli SuSa iyo Cadgmuli. msgavsi
muyaos milis gakeTeba ar gamWirvebia, SuSa mezoblis kacma damiWra
da feradi boTlebis namsxvrevebic
Sevagrove... mezobels Tavisi kaleidoskopi uvneblad davubrune, me ki
axali avawyve. Cemi namuSevari dedas Zalian moewona, ramac erTgvari stimuli momca da sxva raRacis gakeTebis survilic gamiCnda.
_ rogor daiwyeT eleqtrogitarebis Seqmna?
_ yvelaferi rokmusikis siyvaruliT daiwyo. musika CemTvis ucxo
arasdros yofila _ deda Svidsimian gitaraze ukravda, bebia _
fortepianoze. erTxel megobarma
rokjgufis Deep Purple
simReris Canaweri momasmenina da Zalian momewona. swored amis Semdeg gamiCnda gitaraze
dakvris moTxovnileba,
magram mis yidvas ar
vCqarobdi _ SeiZleboda, es yvelaferi
droebiTi gataceba aRmoCeniliyo. instrumenti megobars gamovarTvi
da rom davaTvaliere,
vifiqre, _ aseT yuTs
mec gavakeTeb-meTqi. 17
wlis viyavi, rodesac
pirveli instrumenti
davamzade da masze
siamovnebas mxolod gitaraze
muSaobis procesi maniWebs
muSaobis procesi Zalian momewona.
axla, rogorc xedavT, ZiriTadad,
eleqtrogitarebs vakeTeb.
_ rogorc vici, Tqveni saqmianoba mxolod eleqtrogitarebis SeqmniT ar amoiwureba...
_ mimuSavia kafelisa da parketis dagebaze, sxvadasxva saxis avejic damimzadebia _ ZiriTadad,
karadebs vakeTeb, magram siamovnebas
mxolod gitaraze muSaobis procesi maniWebs. karadis keTeba da amgvari samuSao, ase vTqvaT, Cemi saarsebo wyaroa.
li
_ romeli xisgan damzadebugitaraa yvelaze xarisxiani?
_ yvelaze kargi makagonia. samwuxarod, es tropikuli mcenare
saqarTveloSi ar xarobs da Zvirfas masalad miiCneva. kargia aseve,
muryani, nekerCxali da wifelsac
ara uSavs.
_
gitarebs
ar
yidiT?
_ rasac aq xedavT, nimuSis saxiT maqvs _ ar vyidi. aqedan erTerTs 4 wlis ganmavlobaSi vamzadebdi. muzisa da ganwyobilebis
ambavi xom iciT... CemTvis Tu vakeTeb gitaras, ra Tqma unda, masTan
ganSoreba miWirs, xolo Tu sxvisTvis _ piriqiT, mixaria, rode-
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samyaro
avto
sac adamians Cemi namuSevari moswons.
`audis~ eleqtrosuperavto
_
sxvebs
kompania `audim~ oficialurad daadastura gavrcelebuli cnoba imis Sesaxeb, rom eleqtrosuperavtos _
E-tron _ seriul warmoebaSi CaSvebas apirebs. firmis amerikuli ganyofilebis prezident
iohan de nisSenis
TqmiT, aSS-Si manqana
2-3 weliwadSi gamoCndeba, xolo pirveli
test-egzemplarebi uaxloes 24 TveSi aiwyoba. konceptualuri superavto Audi E-tron, romelic modelis _ R8 _ bazazea awyobili, 4 eleqtromotoriT aRWurves _ jamuri simZlavriT _ 313 cx.Z.
eleqtromotorebi energias liTium-ionuri batareebidan iReben. avtomobilis svlis maragi 248 km-ia, xolo sayofacxovrebo denis wyarodan
misi datenisTvis 6-8 saaTia saWiro. Audi-s monacemebiT, am manqanis
prototipi 100 km/sT siCqares 4,8 wamSi aviTarebs, xolo 60-dan 120 km/sT-s
_ 4,1 wamSi. E-tron-is maqsimaluri siCqare 200 km/sT-ia. am etapze ucnobia,
iqneba Tu ara aRWurvili seriuli manqana imave agregatiT, romelic
koncept-avtoze gamoiyeneba. uaxloesi ramdenime wlis ganmavlobaSi, kompania `audis~ gamaSi, eleqtrosuperavtos garda, kidev ramdenime eleqtromobili gamoCndeba, maT Soris, rodsteri da kompaqturi manqana, romelic
koncept-avtos _ VW Upi _ bazazea Seqmnili.
gitarebis
damzadebas
Tu aswavliT?
_ sxvaTa Soris, myvanan mowafeebi, romelTac ara marto instrumentis damzadebas, aramed
dakvrasac vaswavli. Cemma mowafeebma jgufic ki Seqmnes _ `alubali~.
erT-erTma maTganma miTxra, rom
gitaris yidva surda. me vurCie,
Tavadve gaekeTebina _ Zalian niWieri biWia, yvelafers male
iTvisebs. hoda, isic `daavadda~ am
saqmiT _ jer erTze muSaoba ar
hqonda dasrulebuli, roca meores
Seqmnaze daiwyo fiqri.
_ gitaraze dakvrac
ukideblad iswavleT?
damo-
_ maswavlebelTan 1 wlis ganmavlobaSi davdiodi. man maswavla,
ra aris grifi, deka, gitaris awyoba da a.S. magram is yvelaferi,
rac axla vici, ZiriTadad, Tavadve
viswavle.
_ romelime rokjgufSi gawevrebaze ar gifiqriaT?
_ jarSi yofnisas iqaur ansamblSi vukravdi. Cveni jgufis Semadgenloba xSirad icvleboda,
yoveli momdevno koncertisTvis
axali koleqtivi ikribeboda. mere
ufrosi gamogvicvales. Turme, axal
Sefs aseTi Janris musika ar moswonda da amitomac, dagviTxova,
aparatura Camowera da gayida...
erTi periodi safeiqro qarxanaSi vmuSaobdi da fabrikis ansambl _ `eqoSi~ daviwye dakvra.
safeiqro fabrikis saxeliT koncerts sxvadasxva raionSi vmarTavdiT... axla xSirad amboben, _
im dros yvelafers gviSlidneno,
magram 16-17 wlis asakSi me baCi
qitiaSvilis, `isanisa~ da sxva
jgufebis koncertebze davdiodi,
sadac vcekvavdiT, vyvirodiT da
rom ityvian, yirazec gadavdiodiT.
e.w. `andergraundSi~ es daSvebuli iyo, ubralod, am yvelafers
televiziiT ar uCvenebdnen.
Tavidan, rodesac musikam gamitaca, mec ar vicodi, romeli jgufi
iyo Deep Purple an Led Zeppelin da
warmodgena ar mqonda, ra momwonda. ubralod, momwonda braxabruxi
da vambobdi, _ roki miyvars-meTqi. Semdeg miTxres, rom es mZime
roki iyo (icinis). mokled, musikis
sxvadasxva Janri uamravi niuansiT
gansxvavdeba erTmaneTisgan.
_ ras
rdebs?
usurvebT
axalgaz-
_ nu iqnebian cinikurebi da
arasdros Seecadon erTmaneTis
daCagvras.
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saWesTan makiaJis keTeba saxifaToa!
did britaneTSi yovelwliurad,
500 aTasi avtosagzao incidenti im
qalebis gamo xdeba, romlebic
saWesTan jdomisas makiaJis keTebiT
arian dakavebulni. sadazRvevo kompania Diamond-ma Caatara gamokiTxva, romlis drosac yovelma mexuTe
qalma aRiara, rom avtomobilSi
jdomisas Tavs erTxel mainc ilamazebs; gamokiTxulTa 3%-ma ganacxada, rom am mizeziT ukve gamouwveviaT avtosagzao SemTxveva. yvelaze
xSirad, manqanis marTvisas, 17-21 wlis
gogonebi iwesrigeben Tavs. am asakis
yovelma meoTxe gogonam ganacxada,
rom igi makiaJis keTebiT manqanis
marTvisas iyo dakavebuli da Tanac,
uyuradRebobis gamo avtosagzao
SemTxveva yovel meaTe gogonas hqonia... adre Catarebulma kvlevam uCvena, rom 10-dan 7 mZRoli (gaTvaliswinebuli iyo mamakacTa azric)
saWesTan makiaJis keTebis akrZalvas
aucileblobad miiCnevs.
`opelis~
siaxle
britanulma Jurnalma _ Auto
Express _ Opel Meriva-s axali Taobis pirveli araoficialuri fotoebi gamoaqveyna, romelzec avtomobili yovelgvari kamufliaJis gareSea asaxuli. manqanis msoflio premiera 2010 wlis martSi,
Jenevis saerTaSoriso gamofenaze
Sedgeba. warmodgenili suraTebis
mixedviT, siaxle misive saxelwodebis mqone koncept-avtos stilSia
Sesrulebuli, romlis debiutic SarSan, Jenevis motorSouze Sedga. prototipsa da seriuli modelis Zaras ukana nawilis
erTnairi gaformeba aqvT.
garda amisa, seriuli kompaqtveni, iseve, rogorc koncepti, Rolls-Royce Phantom-is stilis
kariT iqneba aRWurvili. savaraudod, seriul Opel Meriva-s axali
4-cilindriani, 1,4-litriani benzinis turbomotori daumontaJdeba, romlis simZlavrec 120-140
cx.Z. iqneba. winaswari monacemebiT, siaxle evropeli dilerebis
salonebSi momavali wlis
bolodan gamoCndeba.
avto
samyaro
vercxlisferi
kvlavac liderobs
amerikul gamofenaze _ Automotive Colour Trend Show _
saRebavebis msxvilma kompaniam _ PPG Industries _ ganacxada,
rom ukve 9 weliwadia, rac vercxlisferi pirvelobas
inarCunebs. CrdiloeT amerikaSi yoveli meoTxe manqana
swored vercxlisfradaa SeRebili da Tanac, gasul welTan
SedarebiT, am feris popularoba daaxloebiT, 5%-iT gaizarda. meore-mesame adgilebs TeTri da Savi ferebi iyofs _
Sesabamisad, 18 da 16%-iT. SedarebisTvis: 15 wlis win,
amerikaSi yvelaze didi moTxovnileba mwvane manqanebze
iyo, xolo TeTrad avtomobilTa daaxloebiT, 8% iyo SeRebili. PPG Industries-is warmomadgenelTa gancxadebiT, aSS-Si kompaqturi avtomobilebis segmentSi yvelaze
popularuli vercxlisferi da Savi manqanebia, xolo daaxloebiT 21% cisfrad an wiTladaa SeRebili.
amasTan, evropul bazarze mcire manqanebis myidvelTa umravlesoba (daaxloebiT, 37%) wiTels, mwvanesa da
cisfers aniWebs upiratesobas, xolo luqs-brendebis avtomobilebis klientTa Soris yvelaze popularuli
Savia. evropasa da aziaSi vercxlisferi da muqi ruxi yvelaze popularuli saavtomobilo ferebia.
yvelaze swrafi
avtomobiliamfibia
amerikul avtomobil `piTons~
wyalSi mZlavri katerebis gaswreba SeuZlia, xmeleTze ki is 100
km/sT siCqares 4,5 wuTSi aviTarebs.
axali proeqti WaterCar kaliforniaSi Seiqmna da 200 aTasi dolari Rirs. `piToni~ arc erT manqanas ar Camouvardeba.
`piTonTan~ erTad WaterCar-ma
SeimuSava amfibiuri yvelganmavali.
xmeleTze misi maqsimaluri siCqare 137 km/sT-ia, wyalSi ki _ 13
km/sT. marTalia, es sakmaod cudi
maCvenebelia, magram avtomobili
kargi gamtarobisaa da sul raRac,
29 aTasi dolari Rirs.
SegaxsenebT, pirveli avtomobili-amfibia 2004 wels gamoCnda
da is wyalSi mxolod 72 km/sT-s
aviTarebda. yvelaze swrafi amfibia
Sealegs ki wyalSi 105 km/sT-s aviTarebs, magram is avtomobili ki
ara, mZlavri kateria, gamosawevi
SasiT _ xmeleTze samoZraod.
wlis ulamazesi yvelganmavali
avtoritetulma evropulma gamocemam _ Auto motor und sport Caatara
konkursi, sadac avtomoyvarulebma wlis ulamazesi yvelganmavali daasaxeles. gamocemis mkiTxvelTa umravlesobam yvelganmavlis kategoriaSi
saukeTesod axali Range Rover Sport miiCnia da mas germanul avtomobilebze ukeTesi Sefaseba misca, aqve unda aRiniSnos, rom xmis micemis
procesSi 10 aTasi mkiTxveli monawileobda.
Range Rover Sport axali Taobis ZravaTia aRWurvili. mZlavri 5-litriani,
LR-V8 tipis Zrava 510 cx.Z-s aviTarebs. avtomobilis fasi 123.000 dolaridan iwyeba.
Toyota-m qselidan 3,8 milioni
avtomobili amoiRo
saagento `blumbergi~ ityobineba, rom mZRolis savarZlis win ganTavsebul xaliCebTan dakavSirebiT
Seqmnili problemis gamo, Toyota-m
Lexus-is da Toyota-s markis 3,8 mln
avtomobili savaWro qselidan amoiRo. aRmoCnda, rom garkveul viTarebaSi am xaliCebs `gazis~ saterfulis dablokva SeuZlia, rac SesaZloa, avariis gamomwvevi mizezi
gaxdes. amgvari incidenti ukve
araerTxel dafiqsirda. magaliTad,
policiis oficeri, ojaxis wevrubrika
moamzada
rebTan erTad, Lexus-is markis avtomobiliT avariaSi moyva. am ubedurebis mizezi swored gazis
saterfulis dablokva gaxda.
aleqsi r
exviaSvilma
rexviaSvilma
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samyaro
sakiTxavi qalebisaTvis
ra asakis unda iyos Tqveni rCeuli
mamakaci maimunze odnav
simpaTiuri unda iyos
yvelam viciT, rom garegnoba xSirad macduria. yvelaze TvalsaCino silamazec ki droTa ganmavlobaSi icriceba. garda amisa, sazogadoebaSi
damkvidrebulia azri, rom mamakacisTvis garegnoba mTavari ar aris.
sinamdvileSi: sawinaaRmdego
sqesis warmomadgenlebis TvalSi fizikurad lamazi adamianebi ara mxolod
mimzidvelebi, aramed ufro keTilebi,
momxibvlelebi da Tqven warmoidgineT,
ufro kompetenturebic arian. es mecnierulad dasabuTebuli faqtia. ra Tqma
unda, ar SeiZleba xelaRebiT ugulebelvyoT yvela, vinc bunebam alen delonis garegnobiT ar daajildova, magram moridebulobam ar unda gaiZuloT, arasasurvel mamakacTan erTad cxovrebaze ifiqroT.
urTierTsawinaaRmdego
xasiaTis adamianebi
erTmaneTs izidaven
bevri qali daaxloebiT ase msjelobs:
`damoukideblad gadawyvetilebebis miReba, umeteswilad, miWirs. amitom gabeduli da Seupovari mamakaci mWirdeba gverdiT~; an `xSirad cudi ganwyobileba
meufleba, amitom iseT mamakacs veZeb, vinc
gamamxiarulebs~.
sinamdvileSi: msoflmxedvelobis, interesebisa da cxovrebaze Sexedulebebis msgavseba partniorTa siaxlovis sawindaria. gacnobis sawyis
daojaxebis
problema
kvlavac aqtualuria da
bedis Wirveulobas uamravi adamiani uCivis. Tumca
bevric ar epueba cxovrebiseul siZneleebs da mizanmimarTulad eZebs cxovrebis Tanamgzavrs. im SemTxvevaSi
ki
Tu
mizani
zusti da garkveuli ar
aris, Zieba azrs kargavs,
radgan warmatebis miRwevis SesaZlebloba nulamde dadis. da kidev: mtkice
gadawyvetilebebis
miRebaSi,
zogs,
sazogadoebaSi
damkvidrebuli
miTebic uSlis xels.
etapze partniorebs Soris Zlieri
kontrasti damaintrigebelia, magram
SemdgomSi, xSirad Tavs iCens konfliqtebi. mamakaci da qali isedac
sakmaod gansxvavdebian erTmaneTisagan da damatebiTi gansxvavebebis Zieba saWiro ar aris.
mamakaci ufrosi
unda iyos
`ojaxis ufrosis~ tradiciuli
roli gulisxmobs, rom mamakaci iseT
Tvisebebs unda flobdes, rogoricaaa
sibrZne da pasuxismgebloba. es ki mowifulobis asakTan asocirdeba.
sinamdvileSi: fsiqologebi ga-
pomada da qalis xasiaTi
amboben, rom qalis xasiaTis met-naklebi sizustiT amocnoba imis
mixedviTac SeiZleba, ra feris pomadas iyenebs da rogor isvams mas...
 Tu
Tqven tuCebs iRebavT
iSviaTad, msubuqad da fermkrTali pomadiT _ moridebu-
uTmobT sakuTar garegnobas. gamoirCeviT impulsurobiTa da gulkeTilobiT.
li, TavSekavebuli, ekonomiurad mxarjveli mandilosani brZandebiT.
giZneldebaT adamianebTan kontaqti,
gansakuTrebiT _ mamakacebTan. iSviaTad gamoxatavT grZnobebs.
isvamT; iyenebT
ara marto pomadas, aramed konturisTvis gankuTvnil fanqarsac
 saaTobiT dgaxarT sarkis
win da pomadas wamdauwum imatebT,
ise, rom igi sqel fenad rCeba
tuCebze _ Tavmoyvare, mflangvelo-
bisken midrekili adamiani xarT; giyvarT yuradRebis centrSi yofna, gansakuTrebiT _ mamakacebis wreSi. cxovrobT mxolod grZnobebiT.
 gakvriT, ulazaTod isvamT,
ise, rom pomada zogjer tuCis
kontursac scildeba _ uzrunve-
li xarT. arcTu did yuradRebas
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 guldasmiT
_ Tavdajerebuli xarT. yvelanair
situaciaSi inarCunebT gambedaobasa da
iSviaTad kargavT wonasworobas. Tqveni
guli emorCileba gonebas, amitom mamakacebTan avantiura gamoricxulia.
pomadas
lis
feris
yovelTvis tansacmmixedviT arCevT _
optimisti da keTili xarT. gyavT bevri megobari, Tumca amasTanave, cota
ar iyos, sentimentaluric unda iyoT.
Tqvens sisusted miiCneva mogonebebi
`warsul~ mamakacebTan.
 pomadas bolomde xarjavT,
ise, rom Sig aRaraferi rCeba _
nasxvaveben `pasportis asaksa~ da
`fsiqologiur asaks~. xSirad axalgazrda adamiani asakovans mogagonebT,
asakovani ki _ axalgazrdasaviT iqceva. partnioris fsiqologiuri wlovanebis gansazRvra Zalian advilia: sTxoveT, gaixsenos movlenebi, romlebmac
mniSvnelovnad Secvala misi pirovneba, cxovrebis stili, da isini
qaRaldze wertilebiT aRniSnos. igive
gaakeTeT Tqvenc. Semdeg wertilebis
raodenoba SeadareT. vis furcelzec
meti wertili iqneba, fsiqologiuri
TvalsazrisiT ufrosic is aris.
saukeTeso variantia, Tuki erTmaneTs
beds daukavSireben fsiqologiuri da
ara kalendaruli Tanatolebi.
emociuri qalbatoni brZandebiT. ganwyobileba xSirad radikalurad gecvlebaT _ sicilsa da tirils Soris.
Tumca kargi megobroba SegiZliaT.
 wlebis ganmavlobaSi xmarobT erTsa da imave feris pomadas _ gulmaviwyi xarT. cxovrebaSi
arcTu cota problema gqoniaT. uzustobis, gulmaviwyobis da araTanamimdevrulobis gamo xSirad giwevT damatebiTi saqmis keTeba da megobrebTan
urTierTobis garkveva.
iSviaTad, mxolod saRamoobiT,
sagangebo SexvedrisTvis isvamT _
energiuli da mizandasaxuli xarT,
iswrafviT karierisken.
 sinjavT
rac
ki
yvelanair pomadas,
moduria _ impulsuri
xarT, TqvenTvis ucxoa simSvide da
moTmineba. mudam moZraobasa da moqmedebaSi xarT. iolad SegiZliaT megobrebis ayolieba, sazogadoebis
suli da guli xarT da irgvliv myofTa siyvarulsac imsaxurebT.
samyaro
sakiTxavi qalebisaTvis
rogor movuaroT frCxilebs
frCxilebis mtvreva uamravi mizeziT SeiZleba iyos gamowveuli:
hipovitamonozi (1 an ramdenime vitaminis nakleboba), nivTierebaTa
cvlis moSla, mavne qimiur da fizikur faqtorTa zemoqmedeba...
misceT da gamaRizianebel faqtorebTan kontaqtsac moeridoT. am
mizniT kosmetologebi specialuri damcavi laqis gamoyenebas girCeven.
gaiTvaliswineT:
xeli glicerinis Semcveli
sapniT daibaneT. miiReT vitaminebis da mikroelementebis Semcveli
kompleqsi.
dermatologebi frCxilebs janmrTelobis sarked miiCneven _ maTi
uCveulo forma, feri, sisqe da
sxva maxasiaTeblebi organizmSi
mimdinare paTologiur procesebze miuTiTebs.
frCxilebis qsovili metismetad
mgrZnobiarea fizikur da qimiur
faqtorTa mimarT. Zalian cxel
wyalSi recxva uaryofiTad moqmedebs zedapiruli Sris ujredebze _ isini ziandeba da ifiteba. frCxilebis dazianebas
xSirad sarecxi saSualebebisa da
uxarisxo laqis gamoyenebac iwvevs.
Tuki frCxilebTan dakavSirebuli problemebi gawuxebT, laqis xSirad wasmas ar girCevT. frCxilebs sunTqvis saSualeba unda
 dReSi orjer (dila-saRamos) mariliani abazanebi gaikeTeT:
1 C/k Tbil wyals daumateT 3-4
wveTi iodis xsnari da am narevSi
15-20 wuTi gaaCereT TiTebi (frCxilis Semcveli falangebi bolomde unda ifarebodes wyliT). aseTi
abazana amagrebs frCxilebs.
Zilis win, TiTebi 10 wuTiT
qacvis nayenis abazanaSi gaaCereT.
abazanis Semdeg, TiTebze SerCenili zeTi intensiuri masaJiT, kanSi SeizileT.
masaJebi yelisaTvis
kosmetikuri TvalsazrisiT, yeli adamianis sxeulis yvelaze
rTulad mosavleli adgilia. yelze kani Zalze male berdeba.
kosmetologebi amboben, rom maSin, rodesac saxeze pirveli
naoWi Cndeba, yels ukve cxadad emCneva `wriuli rgolebi~.
imisaTvis, rom yelis areSi
kani ar moimCvaros, saWiroa misi
yoveldRiuri dazela gvirilis,
cacxvis yvavilis, pitnis, aryis
kvirtebis an salbis naxarSiT.
am naxarSSi dasvelebuli bambis
tamponiT unda gaiwmindoT yeli,
zevidan qveviT moZraobiT, nikapis qveS ki piriqiT _ qvemodan
zeviT.
balaxebis naxarSis nacvlad,
SesaZlebelia, agreTve kitris
losionis gamoyenebac. qorfa kitri
gaxexeT saxexze. miRebul fafisebur masas daumateT 20-30 grami
arayi da gadawureT. losioni macivarSi SeinaxeT. misi gamoyeneba yoveldRiurad SegiZliaT.
losioniT gawmendis Semdeg aucilebelia mkvebavi kremis wasma,
romlis momzadebis wesi aseTia:
1 kvercxis guli, 1 C/k Tafli, 2
C/k mcenareuli zeTi, 1 C/k gvirilis yvavilis nayeni, 15 ml
qafuris spirti, 15 ml lanolini an vazelini unda aurioT erTgvarovani masis miRebamde.
xangamoSvebiT, gansakuTrebiT
im SemTxvevaSi, Tu kani yelis
areSi damWknaria, sasargebloa
kontrastuli kompresebis dadeba. cxeli kompresi 1-2 wuTiT
unda gaiCeroT yelze, civi –_
5 wuTiT. cxeli kompresis gakeTeba umjobesia pitnis foTlebis nayeniT an salbis naxarSiT. sasargebloa agreTve cximovani kompresebi. yelze, 20
wuTis ganmavlobaSi daideT 40rubrika
50 gradusamde gacxelebuli mcenareuli zeTiT gaJRenTili bamba
an dolbandi. sasurvelia, kompress zemodan polieTileni daafinoT da marliT SeixvioT.
kviraSi erTxel SeiZleba e.w.
`kleopatras abazanis~ miRebac:
1 l rZe gaacxeleT, magram ar
aaduRoT. meore jamSi wylis
orTqlze gaacxeleT 1 C/W Tafli. Tafli rZeSi kargad gaxseniT da daumateT 2 s/k nuSis zeTi.
miRebuli narevi CaasxiT wyliT
savse abazanaSi. amgvari abazanis regularuli miRebis Semdeg kani saocrad nazi, elastikuri da gluvi xdeba.
moamzada
eka gunTaiSvilma
gza #42 15.10.2009
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samyaro
es samyaroa
saocreba, romliTac adamianebma
caSi afrena SeZles
1782 wels frangi mecnieri,
maTematikosi da astronomi lalandi werda: `sabolood damtkicebulia, rom adamianis haerSi
afrena da gaCereba SeuZlebelia.
amas verc giganturi frTebis qneviT SeZlebs da verc raime nivTis
gamoyenebiT~.
Zmebma mongolfebma sawinaaRmdegos damtkiceba SeZles, Tumca amas
ramdenimewliani Sroma moandomes.
frangi Zmebi _ Jozef da etien
mongolfebi qalaq anonSi, qaRaldis fabrikas flobdnen. ZiriTadi saqmianobis garda, fizikasa
da qimias swavlobdnen. erTxel
samzareuloSi Sesulma Jozefma
SeniSna, rom Rumlidan gamosuli
cxeli haeri mis cols kabas maRla uwevda. meore dRes Zmebma cxeli haeriT savse qaRaldis konvertebi samzareulos WerSi
gauSves. patara qalaqSi swrafad
gavrcelda xma, rom mongolfebi
qaRaldis figurebs kvamliT
avsebdnen da haerSi uSvebdnen.
1783 wlis 5 ivniss, Zmebis saxlTan mTelma qalaqma moiyara Tavi.
ainteresebdaT, qsovilisgan damzadebuli sahaero buSti marTla
afrindeboda Tu ara. safreni aparati 200 kg-s iwonida. cxeli
kvamliT gavsebuli buSti, romelsac `ad astra~ (laT. `varskvlavebisken~) ewera, Rrublebisken gafrinda. axali aRmoCenis Sesaxeb
safrangeTis mefe ludoviko XV-s
acnobes. Tavdapirvelad, mxolod
cariel buSts uSvebdnen haerSi.
versalSi, specialurad mefisTvis
sahaero buStis demonstrireba
moewyo da buStze TokebiT
mimagrebul kalaTSi cxvari, mamali da bati moaTavses. 1783 wlis
21 noembers sahaero buStiT adamianebic _ pilatr de rozie
da markiz d’arlandi gafrindnen.
droTa ganmavlobaSi sahaero
buStebis xarisxi gaumjobesda. mefis karis fizikosma Jak Sarlma
buStis gasavsebad yvelaze msubuqi gazi _ wyalbadi gamoiyena,
xolo Zmeb roberebis daxmarebiT,
romlebmac kauCukis xsnari gamoigones, burTis naWers rezinis Txeli apki daumata... Zmebma mongolfebmac didi wvlili Seitanes
haernaosnobaSi da amitomac, cxel
haers, romliTac buStebs avsebdnen, `mongolfuri~, xolo wyalbads _ `Sarluri~ uwodes.
mtirala niangi Tavs miwaSi imarxavs
niangebi 120 mln wlis win gaCndnen. maTi uaxloesi naTesavebi frinvelebi arian. niangebis sigrZe 25,5 metria. isini daaxloebiT, 80100 wlamde cocxloben. sakmaod
patara fexebi aqvT da wina kidurebze 5-5, xolo ukanaze _ 4-4
TiTi aqvT. reptilias Wamis dros
msxverplis daReWva ar SeuZlia da
mas mTlianad ylapavs. mucelSi qvebi _ gastrolitebi aqvs, rac saWmlis monelebaSi exmareba.
arsebobs legenda, romlis Tanaxmadac, roca niangi adamianis an
saqonlis xorcs Wams, tiris. aqedan
modis gamoTqmac: niangis cremlebi gadmoyara. legenda pirvelad
wignSi _ `ser jon mandevilis
mogzauroba~ (wigni daaxloebiT,
1357-1371 wlebSi, londonSia dabeWdili) iyo aRwerili, cota xnis
win ki es mosazreba floridelma
zoologebma daamtkices. maT 4 kaim-
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#42 15.10.2009
gza
ansa da 3 aligators saqonlis
xorci aWames. Svididan xuTs,
Wamis dros cremli sdioda.
niangs erTi uCveulo
Tviseba aqvs _ Tu
grZnobs, rom gvalva da
SimSiloba emuqreba, ramdenime TviT Tavs miwaSi imarxavs,
ukeTesi periodis dadgomisTanave ki miwidan amodis.
garda imisa, rom kudi wyalSi
gadaadgilebisas exmareba, masSi cximebi ugrovdeba, riTac
miwis qveS yofnisas ikvebeba.
niangebi sakmaod agresiulebi
arian da erTmaneTs xSirad
azianeben, magram maTi sisxli antibiotikismagvar nivTierebas Seicavs, rac anTebisa da gangrenisgan icavs.
niangi munji araa. igi uCveulo xmas gamoscems, saSualos _
yefasa da Rrials Soris. reptilias saSualod, 20-100 kvercxis
dadeba SeuZlia.
isini xSirad esxmian Tavs adamianebs, magram arc adamianebi rCe-
es samyaroa
samyaro
adamianebi, romlebmac sikvdili daamarcxes
aron
relstoni
ver gaiTavisuflebda
da daniT xeli moikveTa, darCenili xelis
nawili ki magrad
Seixvia da Sinisken
gaswia. xangrZlivi
mkurnalobis Semdeg,
aronma gadaWril xelze mTamsvlelisTvis
erT-erTi aucilebeli instrumenti daimagra.
wlis 26 ianvars teroristebma TviTmfrinavi aafeTqes.
nawilebad daSlili laineridan
mxolod erTi adamiani, bortgamcilebeli vesna vuloviCi gadarCa. is 27 dRe komaSi iyo, 16
Tvis Semdeg ki hospitlidan gamoweres. mas dazianebuli hqonda Tavis
qala, fexebi da sami nekni. igi
dResac aviakompaniaSi muSaobs, magram aRar dafrinavs. vesna iugoslaviis erovnuli gmiri da ginesis rekordsmenia _ man 10160 m
simaRlidan, uparaSutod ifrina.
• floid jeims
(jimi)
tompsoni
vietnamis omis dros
tyved Cavarda. daWrili iyo da
xerxemlis motexiloba hqonda. igi
xis galiaSi moaTavses, junglebSi amyofebdnen da
awamebdnen, Semdeg ki cixeSi gadaiyvanes. jeimsma 5jer daapira gaqceva, raTa
SimSilsa da antisanitarias gahqceoda, bolos ki
nerviulobis niadagze,
gulis Seteva daemarTa.
tompsoni 1973 wels gaaTavisufles. samSobloSi
dabrunebisas 40,8 kg-s
iwonida.
• inJiner-meqanikos aron relstonis hobi mTamsvlelobaa. is
Stat iutas mTebs ikvlevda, rodesac xelze qvis lodi daeca. aroni
mixvda, rom daiRupeboda, Tu xels
• 1942 wlis 19 noembers
inglisuri gemi keiptaunidan braziliisken
daiZra da katastrofa ganicada. gadarCa mxolod gemis mza-
bian valSi. malaiziaSi siamovnebiT
miirTmeven niangis xorcs (miaCniaT, rom is potencias aZlierebs),
kvercxebsa da cxims. misi tyavisgan ki CanTasa da fexsacmels keraven.
1899 wels, egvipteSi gaTxrebis
dros mumificirebuli niangebi
aRmoaCines. mecnierebma reptiliebis mumiebs qaRaldebi
Semoaxsnes (formis SesanarCuneblad mumias qaRaldSi axvevdnen) da swored maSin, sxvadasxva
iuridiul sabuTs (yidva-gayidvis cnoba, anderZi, saqorwino
xelSekruleba) Soris sofokles
tragediis fragmentebsac waawydnen.
• 1972
niangi, romelmac
sofokle `gadaarCina~
faraonebis dros niangebs
wminda cxovelebad miiCnevdnen.
rubrika
moamzada
reuli pun limi. martod darCenili koki wvimis wyals agrovebda, TevzebiTa da ToliebiT ikvebeboda. sxvaTa Soris, erTxel
gaumarTla kidec da TviTnakeTi
ankesiT zvigeni daiWira... koki 1943
wlis 5 aprils, brazilielma mezRvaurebma ipoves da gadaarCines.
britaneTis xelisuflebam is gamZleobisTvis medliT daajildova. koki ginesis rekordsmenicaa,
radgan martom 133 dRe Sua zRvaSi gaatara. dajildoebisas pun lim
Tqva: `imedi maqvs, Cemi rekordis
gaumjobesebas aravin Seecdeba~.
• Zmebi meng qsianCeni da meng
qsianiu pekinis maxloblad, ara-
legalur qvanaxSiris SaxtaSi
muSaobdnen da erT dRes cocxlad
daimarxnen. 2-dRiani Zebnis Semdeg, maSvelebma Zmebi dakargulebad miiCnies, ojaxma ki isini gamoitira. miwis qveS gamomwyvdeulebi
6 dRis manZilze ikvlevdnen gzas,
naxSiriT, SardiT ikvebebodnen da
samSvidobos gaaRwies Tu ara, piroba dades, rom SaxtaSi aRarasdros
imuSavebdnen.
• 29 wlis kevin tilma im manqanis gataceba gadawyvita, romelSic 7 wlis aleqsis gotinsi da
dedamisi (kevini misi yofili
boifrendi gaxldaT) isxdnen.
roca erT-erT avtogasamarT sadgurze qalma policiis gamoZaxeba scada, kevinma mas cecxlsasroli iaraRidan esrola. gogona
dedas gadaefara da gamtacebelma bavSvs 6 tyvia daaxala. pataras erTi tyvia TvalSi, meore
_ nikapSi, mesame ki ybaSi moxvda.
aleqsiss ukve 6 urTulesi operacia Cautarda da kidev ramdeni
dasWirdeba, ucnobia...
rusudan gelaSvilma
gza #42 15.10.2009
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samyaro
taZari
pirveli msoflio saeklesio kreba
da mwvalebluri moZRvrebis ganqarveba
qveyniuri didebiT gamorCeuli adgilobrivi eklesiebi,
epoqa, romelmac warmoSva 5 saepiskoposo saydari, kanonebisa
da uflis aRdgomis aRniSvnis damdgeni saerTo wesi _
aseTia amjerad Cveni rubrikis mTavari Temebi. gvesaubreba
arqimandriti makari (abesaZe).
Sorena merkvilaZe
_ imperator konstantines
dros konstantinopolis eklesia
romis eklesias gautolda. gamorCeuli pativiT sargeblobda da
dResac sargeblobs ierusalimis
eklesiac; igi iwodeba `dedad
yovelTa eklesiaTa~. mkiTxvels
ganvumartoT, riT iyo gamorCeuli es eklesiebi sxva adgilobrivi eklesiebisgan?
_ eklesia is adgilia, sadac adamiani unda cxondes. ar SeiZleba,
romelime konkretul eklesiaze vTqvaT _ adamians iq cxonebis meti SesaZlebloba aqvso, _ magram msoflio
marTlmadidebel eklesiaSi arsebobs
ierarqiuli wyoba, romelsac diptixi
ewodeba. diptixSi XI saukunemde, vidre dasavleTisa da aRmosavleTis
eklesiebs Soris ganxeTqileba moxdeboda da dasavleTis eklesia mwvaleblobis gziT wavidoda, pirvel adgilze moxseniebuli iyo romis eklesia, radgan romi gaxldaT dedaqalaqi, sadac idga saimperatoro taxti
da yvela mniSvnelovani sakiTxis gadasaWreladac iq iyridnen Tavs. qristianTa devnis Sewyvetis Semdeg, imperatorma konstantinem qalaqi konstantinopoli daaarsa da iqaurma
eklesiamac SeiZina miwieri avtoriteti. marTalia, es qalaqi gvian daarsda, magram radgan sataxto gaxda, qveyniuri didebis gamo, msoflio saeklesio krebis gadawyvetilebiT, kontantinopolis eklesias garkveuli
miwieri upiratesoba mieniWa. romis
eklesiis Semdeg, diptixSi konstantinopolis eklesia ixsenieboda. rac
Seexeba ierusalimis eklesias: imis gamo,
rom miwieri cxovrebis, dedamiwaze
xorcielad yofnis dros iq ufali
moRvaweobda, iqidan gamovidnen mociqulebi da iqve daarsda pirveli
eklesia, _ iwodeba `dedad yovelTa
eklesiaTa~, msoflio saeklesio krebis dadgenilebiT, masac mieniWa pativi qveyniuri didebisa. ase da amgvarad, ama Tu im adgilobrivi eklesiis garkveuli droebiTi Tu samaradJamo upiratesobebi iyo da aris
miwieri da ara _ zeciuri.
_ qristianobis pirvel saukuneebSi msoflioSi sul ramdeni
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gza
adgilobrivi eklesia arsebobda?
_ qristianobis pirvel
xanebSi arsebobda warmmarTveli saepiskoposo saydrebi, romlebic SemdgomSi _ V saukunidan da ufro metad, romis
imperiis daSlis Semdeg adgilobriv avtokefaliur eklesiebad Camoyalibda. am dromde,
romis imperiis teritoriaze,
rogorc vTqviT, arsebobda 5
saepiskoposo saydari _ mZlavri
saeklesio centri: romis, konstantinopolis, antioqiis,
aleqsandriisa da ierusalimis
eklesiebis saxiT; imperiis teritoriis gareT ki _ saqarTvelosa da somxeTis eklesiebi. somxeTis eklesia VI-VII saukunebis mijnaze
mwvaleblobaSi Cavarda _ monofizitobisken miidrika da dedaeklesias
CamoSorda.
_ IV saukunis pirvel naxevarSi, romis imperatoris _
konstantine didis sagangebo brZanebiT, pirveli msoflio saeklesio kreba gaimarTa. ra iyo
krebis mowvevis umTavresi mizezi?
_ ariozis mwvalebloba, romelmac IV saukunis 10-iani wlebidan masobrivi xasiaTi miiRo da faqtobrivad, mTeli imperiis teritoriebi
moicva, eklesiaSi SfoTi Seitana. 324
wels, bizantiis imperiis qalaq nikeaSi gamarTul saeklesio krebas msoflios sxvadasxva eklesiis warmomadgeneli 318 mRvdelmTavari eswreboda. saqarTvelos eklesias biWvinTis
episkoposi _ stratofilec warmoadgenda. krebasTan dakavSirebuli yvela
xarji imperatorma konstantinem gaiRo.
Tavyriloba eklesiis sasaxlis erTerT palataSi mimdinareobda. sasuliero pirebis garda, daswrebis ufleba saero pirebsac hqondaT, amitom
darbazSi zogjer, 2000-mde adamiani
iyrida Tavs (kreba orTve-naxevris ganmavlobaSi grZeldeboda). sxdomebs imperatori konstantinec eswreboda.
rogorc vTqviT, saeklesio krebis
mowvevis umTavresi mizezi da ganxilvis erT-erTi umTavresi sakiTxi
aleqsandrieli mRvdlis _ ariozis
mwvalebluri moZRvrebis uaryofa gaxldaT: krebam ganixila ariozis swav-
leba da SeaCvena igi, rogorc mwvalebluri; Tavad ariozi da misi mimdevrebi eklesiidan ganikveTnen. nikeis
msoflio saeklesio krebam dRis wesrigSi daayena aRdgomis dResaswaulis sakiTxic: qristianobis pirvel
saukuneebSi aRdgomis dResaswauls
sxvadasxva eklesiaSi sxvadasxva dros
aRniSnavdnen. magaliTad, zogan zeimobdnen erTsa da imave ricxvSi _
rodesac macxovari aRdga da ara _
kviradRes. nikeis saeklesio krebaze
saerTo wesi dadginda: aRdgoma yvela eklesiaSi gazafxulis savsemTvareobidan pirvel kviradRes unda aRiniSnos; es dRe ar unda emTxveodes
ebraelTa paseqs. Cven viciT, rom amgvari wesiT gamoangariSebul aRdgomas yovelTvis, uflis saflavze zeciuri cecxlis gardamosvla emTxveva.
pirvel msoflio saeklesio krebaze
SeimuSaves sarwmunoebis simbolos
(kredos) anu, rogorc qarTulad
ewodeba, _ mrwamsis teqsti (sarwmunoebis simbolos qarTuli saxelwodeba warmodga misi pirveli sityvidan
_ `mrwams~), romelmac saboloo, Camoyalibebuli saxe miiRo meore msoflio saeklesio krebaze _ Camoyalibebuli sityvebSi, Torem Tavisi azriT,
mrwamsiT manamdec da mas Semdegac iseTive darCa, rogoric mociqulebs
hqondaT Camoyalibebuli (sarwmunoebis simbolos safuZveli mociqulebidan momdinareobs, romlebsac
Tavad ufalma misca). TviT sityva `mrwamsi~ migvaniSnebs mis mniSvnelobaze, Tu
ra mrwamsis, ra Sexedulebis varT,
taZari
rogori saxiT vaRiarebT RmerTs. es
yvelaferi Tavmoyrilia sarwmunoebis simboloSi (`simbolo~ berZnuli
sityvaa da niSnavs _ `vaerTeb~, `erTad movicav~). e.i. mrwamsSi mokled,
SekumSuladaa gadmocemuli, SeiZleba
iTqvas, Sejamebulic, marTlmadidebluri sarwmunoeba, misi msoflmxedveloba da swavleba-moZRvreba... nikeis krebam aseve daamtkica ama Tu im
eklesiis mTavar warmomadgenelTa ierarqiuli da administraciuli normebi, urTierTSoris, pativisa da uflebrivi mdgomareobis Sesaxeb. krebam
sul 20 kanoni miiRo.
_ sainteresoa, ratom gaxda
saWiro mrwamsis erT-erT muxlSi eklesiis TvisebaTa dafiqsireba _ rom eklesia aris
erTi, wminda, kaTolike da samociqulo?
_ es aris erT-erTi sarwmunoebrivi sakiTxi. mrwamsSi eklesiis TvisebaTa xazgasmiT dafiqsireba wminda mamebma imis gamoc miiCnies saWirod, rom
gamoCnda mwvalebluri mimdinareobebi, romlebic TavianT crukrebulebs
eklesiad ixseniebdnen. cxadia, arc erTi
maTgani ar iyo eklesia, radgan,
rogorc ar SeiZleba erT sakiTxSi
iyos ori WeSmariteba, aseve ar SeiZleba iyos ori an meti WeSmariti
eklesia. WeSmariti eklesia erTia da
misi Tavi aris ufali ieso qriste.
mwvaleblur mimdinareobaTa krebulis,
crueklesiis Tavi ki aris eSmaki da
misi eklesiad wodeba dauSvebelia,
radgan erToba da Sekreba mxolod
ufalSia, eSmakTan ki aris gancalkeveba da mtroba.
_ ratom iwodeba marTlmadidebeli eklesia kaToliked da
samociqulod?
_ sityva `kaTolike~ niSnavs msoflios, sayovelTaos. WeSmaritad kaTolike, msoflio, sayovelTao Tavisi arsiT, mxolod marTlmadidebeli
eklesiaa, radgan is mTel msoflioSia ganfenili. qristes eklesia kaTolikea imitomac, rom ar ganisazRvreba adgiliT, igi moicavs casa da qveyanas, radgan eklesias ekuTvnian ara
mxolod dedamiwaze myofi morwmuneni, aramed gardacvlilebic, romlebic
WeSmariti uflis rwmeniTa da sasoebiT miicvalnen, RvTis winaSe gamarTldnen da zeciuri eklesiis wevroba
moipoves. marTlmadidebeli eklesia
samociquloa imitom, rom gavrcelebulia qristes mociqulTa qadagebiT
da ucvlelad da mtkiced icavs mociqulTagan gadmocemul swavlamoZRvrebas.
_ ratom aris marTlmadidebeli eklesia WeSmariti da rodis gaCnda termini `marTlmadidebeli~?
_ erTaderTi WeSmariti _ mar-
Tlmadidebeli eklesiaa, magram aramarTlmadidebeli mimdinareobis warmomadgenlebic amtkiceben, rom maTi
krebuli, maTi rwmena da swavlamoZRvreba WeSmaritia, Tumca yvela
aRiarebs, rom marTlmadidebloba
aris is Sto, romelmac uwyvetad Seinaxa msaxurebis is wesi da dogmebi,
romlebic Tavad ufal ieso qristedan
modis. amasTanave, sxva mimdinareobaTa warmomadgenlebi miiCneven, rom
Semdeg maT raRac axali da ufro
WeSmariti aRmoaCines. SeuZlebelia,
imaze meti WeSmariteba aRmoaCinos
vinmem, vidre Tavad ufalma da mociqulebma gvaswavles. qristes WeSmarit mimdevrebs, rogorc viciT,
pirvelad antioqiaSi ewodaT qristianebi, magram SemdgomSi, rodesac
sxvadasxva mwvalebluri mimdinareoba
gaCnda, damkvidrda termini `marTlmadidebeli~ _ imis aRsaniSnavad, Tu
vin aRiarebda marTlad, sworad
ufals. sityva `marTlmadidebeli~
niSnavs RmerTis marTlad, sworad
didebas. Tavisi arsiT, marTlmadidebloba qristianobamdec, adamianis gaCenamdec arsebobda _ manamde angelozebi adidebdnen marTlad ufals. Zveli aRTqmis mamamTavrebic marTlad
adidebdnen ufals _ ise, rogorc
unda edidebinaT. pirveli saukunis
qristianebic marTlad adidebdnen
ufals. rac Seexeba danarCen religiur
mimdinareobas, isini saerTod ar
adideben ufals, radgan is, vinc ufals
marTlad, sworad ar adidebs,
ara ufals, aramed eSmaks adidebs.
samyaro
dausabamo, igi RmerTia ara arsiT,
aramed saxeliT da mama RmerTis qmnileba _ anu ariozis cruswavlebis
ZiriTadi arsi iyo macxovris RvTaebriobis daknineba. ariozs aviwydeboda erTi ram: ar SeiZleba, mama ewodos mas, visac Ze ar hyavs. miwieri
TvalsazrisiTac rom mivudgeT, gamodis, rom RmerTi iyo cvalebadi, rac
absoluturi sicruea, magram maTi
goneba amas ver swvdeboda. ara marto
maTi, saerTod, adamianis goneba srulad ver Caswvdeba saRmrTo WeSmaritebas: arsebobs iseTi saRmrTo WeSmaritebebic, romlebic pirdapir, ganusjelad unda miviRoT, magram maT
es ar isurves. surdaT, yvelaferi
miwierad aexsnaT da mividnen amgvar
saSinel mwvaleblur azrovnebamde _
macxovars RvTis qmnilebad miiCnevdnen.
pirveli msoflio saeklesio krebis
Semdeg, ariozis moZRvreba, arianeloba ganqarvda, magram ariozis mimdevrebi, misi swavlebebi amis Semdgom
aTwleulebis manZilze kvlav arsebobda. iyo periodebi, rodesac isini eklesiis mmarTvelobaSic mividnen da marTlmadidebelTa devna daiwyes, Tumca
sabolood, marTlmadideblobam izeima da ariozis mwvalebluri moZRvrebebi
sabolood ganqarvda, Tu mxedvelobaSi ar miviRebT Tanamedrove periodSi
arsebul raselistTa _ ieRovelTa
seqtas, romelic faqtobrivad, ariozis
swavlebas misdevs.
_ ariozis swavleba pirveli masobrivi saxis eresi,
mwvalebluri moZRvreba iyo.
ras aswavlida ariozi, raSi
gamoixateboda misi cdomileba?
_ ariozis mwvaleblurma swavlebam SfoTi Seitana imdroindel eklesiaSi da faqtobrivad,
mTeli eklesia aRaSfoTa. am swavlebiT gansakuTrebiT, antioqiis
eklesia dazaralda, radgan ariozi da misi mimdevrebi _ evsevi
nikodimeli, Teognosti nikieli
da marisi qalkedonieli _ antioqiis eklesiis aRzrdilebi iyvnen
da TavianTi swavlebiT TiTqos,
antioqiis eklesiis swavlebas
icavdnen. xalxSi iseTi STabeWdileba Seiqmna, TiTqos, aleqsandriis eklesia antioqiis eklesias ebrZoda, amitom romis, imave
bizantiis imperiis aRmosavleT
nawilSi advilad miiRes ariozis
cruswavlebebi da mas mravali mimdevari gamouCnda. ariozi aswavlida, rom Ze RvTisa, ieso qriste
ar iyo bunebiT RmerTi; iyo dro,
rodesac Ze RvTisa ar arsebobda, igi ar aris maradiuli da
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samyaro
janmrTeloba
antidepresanti
rubrikas
informaciul-SemecnebiTi
kolaJi
goCa dvalis
ubis wignakidan:
1. galileo galilei qalaq pizaSi
daibada.
2. bred piti anjelina jolis mesame qmaria.
3. kobza Zveleburi ukrainuli simebiani sakravia.
4. niu-iorks finansTa msoflio
dedaqalaqs eZaxian.
5. dedamiwaze 450 saxifaTo vulkanuri zona arsebobs.
6. inokenti smoktunovskis samsaxiobo ganaTleba ar miuRia.
7. receptis pirs, romelic afTiaqidan gacemul wamals axlavs, signatura hqvia.
8. reaqtiuli gamanadgurebeli aviamzidze pirvelad erik uing braunma
dasva.
9. gia yanCels 50 filmisTvis aqvs
dawerili musika da aqedan 7 giorgi
danelias gadaRebulia.
10. saxelganTqmuli qarTveli moWidavis, roman ruruas mier mopovebuli
medlebidan mxolod erTia vercxlis,
yvela danarCeni ki oqrosi gaxlavT.
11. matareblis maqsimalur siCqared
550 km/sT rCeba. uaxlesi teqnologiebiT aRWurvil elmavlebs meti siCqaris
ganviTarebac SeuZlia, magram
am SemTxvevaSi, mgzavrebs diskomforti eqmnebaT.
12. sikomoro fikusis nairsaxeobaa, romelic aRmosavleT
afrikaSi xarobs da leRvis msgavs nayofs
isxams. CvenSi mas leRv-sulels eZaxian.
13. avtomobilebis gamonabolqvi mavne
gazebis saerTo raodenobis 20%-s
Seadgens. mecnierTa varaudiT, globaluri daTbobis Sedegad, msoflio
klimaturi ltolvilebiT gaivseba.
14. Zvelad ingliseli diasaxlisebi moduRebuli xiliTa da kenkriT
savse Tixis qilebs axaldakluli
Roris buStiT xufavdnen _ buSti
zed axmeboda qilis Tavs da SigTavss
hermetulad inaxavda.
15. `ar vici, ra ufro mniSvnelovania _ qristianoba Tu rok-en-roli.
qriste normaluri iyo, oRond mowafeebi hyavda aranormaluri. dRes
`biTlzi~ ufro popularulia, vidre
ieso qriste~, _ ganacxada erT-erT
interviuSi jon lenonma. am sityvebisTvis mogvianebiT, mas bodiSis moxda
da axsna-ganmartebis micema dasWirda.
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gza
uZRveba
eqimi
nino CargeiSvili
mxedvelobis
gasaumjobesebeli varjiSebi
statistikis
Tanaxmad,
msoflios
mosaxleobis
mesameds
mxedvelobis
problema aqvs. Tu Tqven
axlomxedveloba,
Sorsmxedveloba an astigmatizmi
gawuxebT da masTan Segueba ar gsurT, icodeT,
yvelaferi Tqvenzea (da
ara eqimze) damokidebuli. mxedvelobis SenarCunebis an gaumjobesebis, axlomxedvelobis da
Tvalis sxva daavadebebis profilaqtikis TvalsazrisiT
mniSvnelovania
Tvalis
regularuli
varjiSi.
kompiuterTan muSaobis, didxans kiTxvis an Tvalis daZabvasTan dakavSirebuli sxva samuSaoebis Sesrulebis dros aucilebelia:
* yovel 1-2 saaTSi mxedvelobis
sxva saganze gadatana;
* dasvenebis mizniT, 1-2 wuTis
ganmavlobaSi Tvalebis daxuWva;
* Tvalebis varjiSi: gaakeTeT
4-5 martivi varjiSi. magaliTad
_ CaatareT Tvalis, kisris, zurgis, mxris sartylis kunTebis
varjiSi. bavSvebisTvis rekomendebulia igive, magram maT ufro
xSirad unda Seisvenon. kerZod:
12-14 wlis asakSi yovel 45 wuTSi, xolo 15-17 wlis asakSi yovel saaTSi erTxel aucilebelia
15-wuTiani Sesveneba.
Tvalis daZabulobis mosaxsneli, axlomxedvelobis saprofilaqtiko da mxedvelobis gasaumjobesebeli varjiSebi:
Tvalis varjiSi dReSi 2-jer
mainc unda CaitaroT. airCieT
varjiSebis is kompleqsi, romelic
ufro gagiadvildebaT. ukeTesi
iqneba, Tu maT monacvleobiT SeasrulebT.
I kompleqsi _ mxedvelobis gasaumjobesebeli varjiSi:
1) Tvalebis moZraoba horizontaluri mimarTulebiT _ marjvnidan-marcxniv;
2) Tvalis kaklebis moZraoba vertikalurad _ zemoT-qvemoT;
3) Tvalebis wriuli moZraoba:
saaTis isris da mis sawinaaRmdego
mimarTulebiT;
4) Tvalebis swraf tempSi intensiuri daxuWva-gaxela;
5) Tvalebis moZraoba diagonalze: Tvalebis daxra marcxena
qveda kuTxeSi, Semdeg misi marjvena zeda kuTxeSi gadatana. analogiuri moZraoba sawinaaRmdego mimarTulebiT;
6) mxedvelobis cxvirze mipyro-
janmrTeloba
ba _ cxviris Zgideze daideT TiTi
da SexedeT mas;
7) Tvalebis xSiri xamxami;
8) midiT fanjarasTan, yuradRebiT SexedeT fanjris miRma,
axlomdebare raime sagans an minaze flomasteriT gakeTebul niSnuls, Semdeg SeecadeT yvelaze
Soreuli sagnis an obieqtis danaxvas.
TiToeuli varjiSi SeasruleT
6-6-jer, yoveli mimarTulebiT.
II kompleqsi _ axlomxedvelobis profilaqtika:
1) dajeqiT, Tavi ukan gadaswieT,
Rrmad CaisunTqeT, Semdeg win gadmoixareT da amoisunTqeT;
2) mieyrdeniT skamis sazurges,
daxareT quTuToebi, Semdeg ki magrad daxuWeT Tvalebi da gaaxileT;
3) SemoirtyiT doinji, Tavi moabruneT marjvniv da SexedeT marcxena idayvs; Semdeg Tavi moabruneT
marcxniv, SexedeT marjvena idayvs
da daubrundiT sawyis mdgomareobas;
4) aswieT Tvalebi maRla da gaakeTeT TvalebiT moZraoba jer
saaTis isris, Semdeg ki misi sawinaaRmdego mimarTulebiT;
5) xelebi gaswieT win, SexedeT
TiTis wverebs, aswieT xelebi maRla (Tan, CaisunTqeT), mxedveloba
gaayoleT TiTebs ise, rom Tavi ar
aswioT. bolos xelebi TandaTanobiT dauSviT da amoisunTqeT.
am varjiSebis gakeTeba sasurvelia kompiuterTan muSaobis dros,
yovel 40-50 wuTSi erTxel. yoveli varjiSi gaimeoreT 5-6-jer.
III kompleqsi _ xsnis Tvalebis
daRlilobas:
1) icqireT pirdapir 2-3 wami.
Tvalebidan 25-30 sm daSorebiT
gaaCereT TiTi, uyureT mas 3-5 wami.
dauSviT xeli, kvlav pirdapir
icqireT. gaimeoreT 10-12-jer;
2) fanqari miitaneT cxviris
wverTan, Semdeg swrafad gaswieT
win da swrafadve miitaneT cxviris wverTan. SeecadeT, am dros
fanqris moZraobas adevnoT Tvali. gaimeoreT 10-12-jer;
3) fanjris minas miakariT 3-5 mm
diametris mqone qaRaldis niSnuli. mxedveloba monacvleobiT miapyariT xan fanjris miRma arsebul sagnebs, xan minaze mikrul
qaRaldis niSnuls. gaimeoreT 1012-jer;
4) sivrceSi TvalebiT nel-nela
(sunTqvis tempSi) daxateT rviani
horizontalurad, vertikalurad
da diagonalurad. yoveli varianti gaimeoreT 5-6-jer;
5) xelis cera TiTi Tvalebidan
20-30 sm moSorebiT gaaCereT, orive
TvaliT uyureT TiTis wvers 3-5
wami, daxuWeT cali Tvali 3-5
wuTiT da kvlav orive TvaliT
SexedeT TiTs. Semdeg daxuWeT meore Tvali da a.S. gaimeoreT 1012-jer;
6) Tvalis doneze win gaSverili marjvena xelis cera TiTs
ucqireT 5-6 wami. nel-nela gaswieT xeli marjvniv da cera TiTs
Tavis gaunZrevlad gaayoleT mzera. igive SeasruleT marcxena xeliT. varjiSi yoveli mimarTulebiT 10-12-jer gaimeoreT;
7) Tavis gaunZrevlad gadaitaneT mxedveloba marcxena qveda kuTxidan marjvena zeda kuTxeSi, Semdeg _ marjvena qveda kuTxidan
marcxena zeda kuTxeSi. gaimeoreT
5-7-jer, Semdeg igive SeasruleT
ukumimarTulebiT.
IV kompleqsi _ varjiSebi
daRlili TvalebisTvis:
1) Rrmad CaisunTqeT da rac
SeiZleba magrad daxuWeT Tvalebi. daZabeT yelis, saxisa da Tavis
kunTebi. SeaCereT sunTqva 2-3 wamiT, Semdeg swrafad CaisunTqeT
da Tvalebi farTod gaaxileT. gaimeoreT 5-jer;
2) daxuWeT Tvalebi, gaikeTeT
wriuli masaJi warbebis rkalisa
da Tvalbudis qveda nawilis
garSemo _ cxviridan safeTqlebamde;
3) daxuWeT Tvalebi, moaduneT
warbebi. amoZraveT Tvalis kaklebi marcxnidan marjvniv da marjvnidan marcxniv. gaimeoreT 10jer.
4) cera TiTi gaaCereT Tvalebidan 25-30 sm-is daSorebiT, TiTis bolos ucqireT orive TvaliT 3-5 wamis ganmavlobaSi, Semdeg daxuWeT cali Tvali 3-5 wamiT da kvlav orive TvaliT SexedeT TiTs. mere daxuWeT meore
Tvali da a.S. gaimeoreT 10-jer.
5) daideT TiTis wverebi safeTqlebze da odnav daaWireT. 10jer swrafad da msubuqad daaxamxameT, Semdeg daxuWeT Tvalebi,
CaisunTqeT 2-3-jer Rrmad da daisveneT. gaimeoreT 3-jer.
Cven mier SemoTavazebuli Tvalis varjiSis TiToeuli kompleqsis Sesruleba sul raRac, 5 wuTs
wagarTmevT, misgan miRebuli sargebeli ki Zalian didia.
samyaro
antidepresanti
informaciul-SemecnebiTi
kolaJi
goCa dvalis
ubis wignakidan:
16. `vfiqrob, rom sworad moviqeci, TumcaRa, sazogadoebam kaenis daRi
damasva. xalxs rom Cemi keTili zraxvebisa raime gaegebodes, es gasrola
varskvlavebamde amamaRlebda~, _ werda sakuTar dRiurSi abraam linkolnis
mkvleli, jon uilks buti.
17. grigol robaqiZes orive coli
rusi hyavda. mas akakiviT arasdros
uTqvams, ucxoels arasdros SevirTavo. akaki wereTlis Svilma, aleqsim
qarTuli ar icoda.
18. `gamocdileba
Zalze Zvirad Rirebuli skolaa, magram
ra gaewyoba, Tuki
briyvTaTvis sxva skola ar arsebobs~, _
werda Tavis avtobiografiaSi benjamin
franklini.
19. iaponiis kapitulaciis Semdeg,
tokioSi TviTmfrinaviT Casulma generalma makarturma iokohamamde avtomobiliT imgzavra. mTeli am gzis
gayolebaze, iaponeli jariskacebi
iyvnen Camwkrivebulni da gzas patrulirebdnen. pativiscemis niSnad, yvela maTgani korteJisaken zurgSeqceviT
idga, riTac amerikel generals iseve
miagebdnen pativs, rogorc sakuTar
imperators.
20. petre pirvelis SviliSvilma, nikoloz pirvelma babuis favorits, kniaz
menSikovs yvela pativi ahyara, titulebi,
qoneba, mamulebi CamoarTva da miyruebul guberniaSi gadaasaxla. Tavads 13
milioni rubli gadaaxdevines, briliantis Tvlebi da sxva mravali Zvirad Rirebuli nivTi waarTves. esec ar akmares,
gzaSi wamoewivnen, tanisamosi gaxades da
mdabioTa samoseli miuyares. ruseTis
axalgazrda imperatorma menSikovs mamamisis sikvdiliT dasjaSi monawileoba ar
apatia. P.S. gadasaxlebaSi menSikovma morebisgan saxli sakuTari xeliT aago (xeloba axalgazrdobaSi petre pirvelis
brZanebiT iswavla) da Tan, oxravda: ase
viwyebdi cxovrebas da vin ifiqrebda,
Tu aseve davamTavrebdio.
21. veriko anjafariZem `uriel akostaSi~ 306-jer iTamaSa ivdiTis roli.
erTxel speqtaklis dros waiqca da
xeli moitexa. gulwasuli msaxiobi saavadmyofoSi waiyvanes. gonze mosvlisTanave moiTxova, TeatrSi damabruneTo. TabaSirSi xelCasmuli msaxiobi
TeatrSi waiyvanes, sadac erTsaaTiani
antraqtis miuxedavad, darbazi aravis
dautovebia da msaxiobma speqtakli bolomde iTamaSa.
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gza
samyaro
miniromani
adamiani
`Tbilisuri monmartri~,
ufulo qalaqelebi
da politikis gamo dakarguli rusi klientebi
Cveni qalaqisTvis ucxo sulac aRar aris, rom
zemelze, mecnierebaTa akademiis SenobasTan, Tbiliselma
mxatvrebma wlebia, rac bina daides da yoveldRiurad
saocar gamofena-gayidvebs awyoben; am adgilisTvis
piradad me gulgrilad arasdros Camivlia; yovelTvis
yuradRebiT vaTvaliereb da vecnobi qarTvel xelovanTa Sesrulebul quCaSi gamotanil Semoqmedebas... qalbatoni sofiko xatiaSvili iq ukve 16 weliwadia, dgas
da rogorc Tavad ambobs, cdilobs, yoveldRiurad
ukeTesi da ukeTesi eqspozicia moawyos...
lali facia
_ Cven am adgils Tbilisis `monmartrs~ veZaxiT... Tavidan, rodesac mecnierebaTa akademiis SenobasTan mxatvrebis namuSevrebis
gamofena-gayidva daiwyo, mec movedi. im droisaTvis gamoucdeli
xelovnebaTmcodne gaxldiT, Tumca Teoriuli codna, komunikabeluroba, zogadad, universitetSi
SeZenili ganaTleba damexmara imaSi, rom xelovnebaTmcodned Zalian
swrafad Camovyalibebuliyavi. Cemi
mTavari amocana is aris, rom
yoveldRiurad ukeTesi da ukeTesi gamofena movawyo...
_
mxolod
gamofena?
_ ki, es xom gamofenaa, vernisaJi! yovel SemTxvevaSi, is kuTxe,
romelic aq mikavia, akademiuri gamofenis nimuSia!.. CemTan Tavs iyris
profesionali, maRali donis mxatvrebis suraTebi, Tumca SeiZleba
_ moyvarulebis namuSevrebic iyos
(laparakia, mxolod originalebze).
_ iqneb damisaxeloT mxatvrebi, romelTa namuSevrebi Tqvens
gamofenaze ifineba?
_ Tengiz mirzaSvili, irakli
oCiauri, avTo popiaSvili, aleqsandre slovenski... isini titulo-
vani mxatvrebi arian, saxalxo mxatvris wodeba jer
kidev sabWoTa periodSi aqvT
miniWebuli. CemTan aris
aseve niko cecxlaZis, soso
ZamukaSvilis suraTebic.
_ iseTi gamoCenili
mxatvrebi, rogorebic arian:
elene axvlediani, lado
gudiaSvili, soliko virsalaZe?.. maTi suraTebi
TqvenTan Tu xvdeba?
_ rogor ara, magram am mxatvrebis namuSevrebi yoveldRiur,
mudmiv gamofenaze xSirad ar aris.
es ufro SemTxveviTi movlenaa.
SesaZloa, isini aq maSin moxvdes,
Tu vinmem gaWirvebuli ojaxidan
momitana. Tumca namuSevrebi maSinve iyideba.
_ rogorc miTxariT, ukve 16
welia, rac aq dgaxarT. es aris
adgili, sadac uamravi adamiani
midi-modis, mudmivad bevri mnaxveli da dainteresebuli piri
trialebs. namuSevrebi rodis ufro
iyideba an saerTod, iyideba Tu
_ ara? da vin yidulobs maT?
_ rac dro gadis, adamianebis
materialuri mdgomareoba TandaTan uaresdeba. suraTebi adreul
wlebSi ukeT iyideboda...
_
mainc
rodis?
_ rodesac ruseTTan savizo
reJimi ar gvqonda. mas mere, rac
savizo reJimi gamocxadda, rusebi
saqarTveloSi naklebad Camodian.
gind daijereT, gind _ ara, magram Cemgan suraTebs umetesad,
moskoveli turistebi yidulobdnen. Cemi yvelaze kargi klientebi
isini iyvnen.
_ amerikelebsa da evropelebze ras gvetyviT?
_ isini ZiriTadad, `riugzakiT~ mosiarule adamianebi arian,
romlebic tye-RreSi _ svaneTSi,
xevsureTSi dadian da ufro egzotikur adgilebs etanebian. SemTxveviT, roca aq moxvdebian, SeiZleba, raime suveniri: qarTuli droSa, qarTuli jvrebiT Semkuli qudi,
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adamiani
saqme
winda, xanjali, vercxliT movarayebuli yanwi an minanqarSi Sesrulebuli namuSevrebi SeiZinon. isini
suraTebs naklebad etanebian.
_ Tbiliselebi
loben?
ras
yidu-
_ im koleqcionerebsa da moyvarulebs, romlebic Cemgan adre
aqtiurad yidulobdnen, gauWirdaT,
xelmokled cxovroben da suraTis
SeZenas veRar bedavan. ise, gamogitydebiT da, kargi suraTis gayidva
yovelTvis Wirda... didi sanacnobo
wre unda gyavdes, koleqcionerebTan
kontaqtebic gWirdeba da unda ecado, rom rogorme suraTi vinmes
moawono da gayido. SemTxveviTi
_ ra Rirs maTi mowonebuli
namuSevrebi?
_ 500-600 dolari. es gudiaSvilis fanqriT gakeTebuli Canaxatebi gaxlavT, grafikaa, qalis portretia _ `muza~ hqvia. aris `mevenaxe gogonebi~ da `SoTa rusTavelis~ portretic...
_ qalbatonisTvis
aris yoveldRiurad,
amindSi aq dilidan
dgoma?
_ aq, rogorc samsaxurSi, qarSic, wvimaSic, mzeSic da yinvaSic
yoveldRe vcxaddebi. gamofenas,
SeiZleba iTqvas, rom 2 saaTidan
vxsni. 7 saaTamde aq var da Cems
yvela nacnobsa Tu megobars aqve
viReb, radganac yvelam icis, rom
Cemi naxva dRis am monakveTSi
swored aq SeiZleba. rogorc amboben _ `mesto vstreCi izmenit
nelzia~... siZneleebze mkiTxeT. gipasuxebT: ra Tqma unda, mZimea
yoveldRe aq dgoma, radgan martos miwevs suraTebis tareba, simZimis aweva, fizikuri Sroma... am
periodSi SeiZleba, gavcivde da
avad gavxde... magram miuxedavad
yvelafrisa, mainc saintereso samuSaoa. wlebis ganmavlobaSi aq dgomiT saocari fsiqologic gavxdi;
warmoidgineT, rom gamvlelebisa
da myidvelebis fsiqoportretebsac ki vadgen xolme...
_
sulxan merabiSvilis mier Seqmnili
qalbatoni sofikos portreti
gamvlelebi CemTan namuSevrebs praqtikulad, ar iZenen. Tu yiduloben,
umTavresad 10-20-lariani suraTi
undaT xolme.
_ gamodis, rom dRe SeiZleba, ise gavides, suraTi verc
gayidoT?
_ dRe ki ara, SeiZleba, ramdenime kviramac ise Caiaros, rom arc
erTi suraTi ar gaiyidos. (vsaubrobdiT, qalbatoni sofikos mowyobil gamofenasTan sami mamakaci
rom SeCerda; ZirZveli Tbiliselebi Candnen; suraTebis fasebi ikiTxes; lado gudiaSvilis namuSevrebs
didxans utriales da wavidnen. _
avt.) xom xedavT, maT maSinve SeniSnes
Cems gamofenaze gudiaSvilis namuSevrebi da fasi ikiTxes. etyobaT, rom mxatvrobaSi erkvevian,
magram usaxsrobis gamo myidvelebi ver aRmoCndnen.
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gza
Zneli ar
nebismier
saRamomde
rogor?
_ imis mixedviT, Tu romeli
suraTi ainteresebT. rom dailaparakeben da raRacas ikiTxaven,
CemTvis ukve gasagebi xdeba im
pirovnebis inteleqti, moTxovnileba, gemovneba da finansuri saSualebac. bevri aseTi portreti
Semidgenia. amrigad, kargad vicnob Cems Tanaqalaqelebs...
_ myidvelebs Soris, inteleqtualebi Warboben?
_ vinc aq modis, inteleqtualebi da profesionalebi arian...
aqvT daxvewili gemovneba, zogjer
mikvirs kidec, iseTi. rodesac
saukeTeso suraTs airCeven, mixaria, radgan vgrZnob, rom saqme karg
pirovnebasTan maqvs. sakuTari
TavisTvis miTqvams kidec: Sexede,
rogor kargad erkveva-meTqi!..
_ romelime axirebul klients
xom ar gaixsenebT?
_ axirebuls maincdamainc ver
vityvi da ratom: rogorc giTxariT, CemTan ZiriTadad, inteleqtualebi modian da maTgan axireba
TiTqmis gamoricxulia. aseT SemTxvevas ki marTla gavixseneb: erTxel parizidan cnobili koleqcioneri, gvarad Seremetievi Cam-
ovida. frangulad aRzrdili,
grafebis STamomavali rusi gaxldaT da rusulad cudad laparakobda. is CemTan saubrisas gaixsna,
radganac Tbilad miviRe. Cemgan
niWieri axalgazrda mxatvris _
soso ZamukaSvilis suraTebi (daaxloebiT 10 cali) Zalian iafad
SeiZina. aRfrTovanebuli iyo mxatvris ostatobiT da Sempirda,
rom namuSevrebis SesaZenad kidev
Camovidoda... magram aRar Camosula. albaT omis Semdeg cotaTi
dafrTxa... saintereso pirovneba
iyo, saocrad ganaTlebuli. rodesac vkiTxe, _ rusuli sad iswavleT-meTqi? _ mipasuxa: me ukve
aravin damrCa safrangeTSi, rusuli ki niko bagrationis deidam
(romelic parizSi cxovrobda) maswavlao (is niko buris da iyo). am
informaciis mosmenam Zalian gamaxara, radganac niko bagrationi
Cemi axlobeli iyo, romelic niko
buris SviliSvili gaxldaT.
grafisTvis parizSi swored am nikos
deidas uswavlebia rusuli. ase rom,
zogjer aq iseT saintereso adamians vxvdebi, rom sasiamovnod gaocebuli vrCebi xolme.
_ TqvenTan cnobili
anebi Tu modian?
adami-
_ mxatvrobaSi Zalian kargad
erkvevian da kargi gemovneba aqvT:
ivliane xaindravas da gia kobaxiZes; maT Cemgan suraTebic uyidiaT.
sxvaTa Soris, mxatvrobaSi kargad
arian gaTviTcnobierebuli iuristebi. maT marTla maRali klasis
gemovneba aqvT. ramdenime iuristi
CemTan swored imis gamo megobrobs,
rom icis, aq iafad karg suraTs
SeiZens. eseni Zalian cnobili
pirovnebebi arian da axla ar Rirs
maTi gvarebis dasaxeleba.
_ sul veravis daasaxelebT?
_ SemiZlia, jemal gaxokiZis,
guram axalaias dasaxeleba. batoni gurami saintereso pirovnebaa.
is fond `iavnanas~ aRmasrulebeli
direqtori gaxlavT. aRsaniSnavia,
rom yofili partiuli nomenklaturis warmomadgenlebic SesaniSnavi gemovnebiT gamoirCevian. aqve
SemiZlia, aCiko gogelias dasaxelebac...
_ dabolos: ar meTanxmebiT
imaSi, rom aq `Tbilisuri monmartrisTvis~ Seusabamo eqsterieria?
_ rac ufro gauaresda cxovrebis pirobebi, aqauri eqsterieric
gafuWda. is esTetika, romelic am
gamofenas Seesabameba, namdvilad ar
aris daculi... es ki marTlac rom
guldasawyvetia...
STamomavloba
adamiani
pirvelobiT gamorCeuli abaSiZeebi
da didi artisti, romelmac Svils
mis kvalze dadgoma aRukveTa
`bolo 3 wlis ganmavlobaSi
Zalian uWirda _ mZimed daavadebuli, sawols iyo mijaWvuli. mamas me vuvlidi da am
samma welma gansakuTrebiT dagvaaxlova. miyveboda warsulze, megobrebze, msaxiobebze, reJisorebze...
saxlSi
bevri
laparaki
arasodes
hyvarebia,
unda
gamogewvia, raime rom moeyola...~
_ ase igonebs gamoCenil msaxiobs, dauviwyari saekrano saxeebis Semqmnels _ dodo abaSiZes
misi
Svili,
istorikosi
zaza
abaSiZe, romelsac diaxac SeuZlia iamayos saxelovani winaprebis mravalricxovnobiT...
Tamuna kvirkvelia
_ mamaCemis mama, vaniko abaSiZe msaxiobi iyo. rusTavelis TeatrSi mas
15-16 roli hqonda Sesrulebuli.
vaniko sandro axmetelis mowafe gaxldaT, mas axmeteli did momavals uwinaswarmetyvelebda. 1937 wels vaniko
sandro axmetelTan erTad daxvrites...
bebiaCemi, nino andronikaSvilic msaxiobi iyo. mas didxans ar umoRvawia
TeatrSi: qmris daxvretis Semdeg ar
aZlevdnen uflebas, emuSava (mogvianebiT, muskomediis TeatrSi miiRes).
aRsaniSnavia isic, rom vaniko abaSiZis bebia _ efrosine yifiani-kldiaSvilisa, pirveli qarTveli profesionali msaxiobi iyo. masze gamoCenili qarTvelebi _ akaki wereTeli,
daviT kldiaSvili da sxvebi werdnen. akaki misi partnioric iyo scenaze.
efro dimitri yifianis Zmiswuli gaxldaT. masa da ruseTis armiis polkovniks _ grigol kldiaSvils 6
Svili hyavdaT. es pirovnebebi udavod,
Rirsi arian imisa, rom maTze calke
SevCerdeT. ufrosi _ simon kldiaSvili pirveli qarTveli profesionali arqiteqtori iyo, romlis
proeqtiTac dRevandeli, iv. javaxiSvilis saxelobis universitetis
pirveli korpusi aigo. meore vaJi _
aleqsandre (saba) _ cnobili qimikosi gaxldaT. saba odesaSi muSaobda universitetSi; 1905 wels man darbevas gadaarCina ebraelTa ojaxi, rasac
TviTon Seewira: Savrazmelebma xiStze
wamoages!.. mesame vaJs andrea erqva; is
erT-erTi pirveli eleqtroinJineri
iyo, puris eleqtrosacxobi gamoi-
dodos dros tareba
da qeifi uyvarda
gona... aseT cnobil ojaxSi daibada
bebiaCemi _ qalbatoni nuca. Tu
quTaisSi pativsacemi vinme Camovidoda, aucileblad grigol kldiaSvilisa da efrosine yifianis ojaxSi mihyavdaT.
_ namdvilad SesaSuri winaprebi gyoliaT. amboben, Svilis
ZarRvebSi 70% dedis sisxli
Cqefso... Tu SeiZleba, dedaTqvenze
_ qalbaton marinesa da mis
warmomavlobazec gviambeT.
_ dedaCemi marine axvlediania. misi
babua anu Cemi didi babua cnobili
samxedro eqimi iyo. man sakuTari saxsrebiT gaxsna lazareTi kurdRelaurSi, TelavTan axlos da iq ufasod mkurnalobda avadmyofebs. dedaCemis mamida _ cnobili qarTveli
mxatvari elene axvlediani gaxldaT.
_ Tu iciT, rogor gaicno
erTmaneTi Tqvenma ded-mamam da
ra dagamaxsovrdaT yvelaze metad,
mSoblebis
urTierTobidan?
rogori meuRle iyo batoni
dodo?
_ deda da mama erTmaneTs erosi
manjgalaZem gaacno 1948 wels. magram
mxolod 1956 wels daqorwindnen,
filmis _ `me vityvi simarTles~ _
gadaRebis dros, romelSic oriveni
monawileobdnen. erTaderTi problema
hqondaT: dodos dros tareba da
qeifi uyvarda, deda, rasakvirvelia,
ukmayofilo iyo amiT. erT SemTxvevas
gavixseneb: naqeifari mama Sin manqaniT
moiyvanes. im dros meSvide sarTulze
vcxovrobdiT. sanam maRla amovidoda, meore manqanam moakiTxa, rom isev
saqeifod waeyvana... am dros dedam
dauZaxa zemodan: amodi, kaco, bavSvs
38 aqvs sicxeo (me mgulisxmobda)! mamam
qvemodan amosZaxa: Cems Svils normaluri sicxe 40 unda hqondeso! _
da wavida... qeifi uyvarda da cnobili Tamadac iyo, magram bevri Rvinis smas erideboda; legendebi dadis,
_ dodo abaSiZe didi msmeli iyoo,
magram es tyuilia.
_ filmSi _ `roca ayvavda
nuSi~ _ dodo abaSiZe, Svilis
karierisTvis yvelaferze wamsvlel
gaiZveras
ganasaxierebs.
Tavad batoni dodo rogori
mama iyo?
_ Cven Soris eqscesi arasdros
yofila. mama arasodes itvirTavda
Tavs didaqtikuri saubrebiT, arasodes marigebda Wkuas. mec ar vaZlevdi saamiso sababs. bolo 3 wlis
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adamiani
STamomavloba
maiZula, `saqarTvelos istoriis narkvevebis~ oTxi
tomi Camebarebina misTvis,
aseve _ iv. javaxiSvilis
da n. berZeniSvilis ZiriTadi naSromebi. 1983 wlidan vatarebdi seminarebs, Semdeg ki vkiTxulobdi
leqciebs
saqarTvelos istoriaSi.
1988 wels axali saleqcio kursis _ saqarTvelos eklesiis istoriis
kiTxva daviwye. qalbatonma marikam komunisturi
reJimis pirobebSi pirvelad SemoiRo istoriis
fakultetze es kursi...
erTi periodi, sagareo
saqmeTa saministroSi
vmuSaobdi, jer sammarTvelos ufrosis moadgile
viyavi, Semdeg _ ufrosi.
mere, erTi wlis ganmavlobaSi oqsfordis universitetSi, religiis
istoriis sferoSi gavdiodi staJirebas. erovnuli biblioTekis
direqtorad 2005 wels damniSnes.
50 aTasi lari gamoiyo. saqme isaa,
rom manamde biblioTekas wlebis ganmavlobaSi aseTi didi Sevseba ar hqonia. es Zalian didi SenaZeni iyo biblioTekis fondebisTvis. aseve moxda
biblioTekis struqturuli reorganizacia. mniSvnelovnad mimaCnia is,
rom erovnul biblioTekas SeuerTda yofili wignis palata. samwuxarod, SemdgomSi, viRacebis gaugebari
aCemebis gamo, es struqtura daSales.
_
Tqveni
_ amJamad, ramdenad aqtiurad xarT CarTuli politikaSi?
zaza abaSiZe
vaJTan erTad
ganmavlobaSi mas Zalian uWirda _
mZimed daavadebuli, sawols iyo mijaWvuli. mamas me vuvlidi da am samma
welma gansakuTrebiT dagvaaxlova.
miyveboda warsulze, megobrebze, msaxiobebze, reJisorebze... saxlSi bevri
laparaki arasodes hyvarebia, unda
gamogewvia, raime rom moeyola... Sin
rolebze muSaobda, Zalian bevrs kiTxulobda. Tu raime ar moswonda,
arafriT metyoda pirdapir _ ubralod, Tavisi qceviT mimaxvedrebda, rom
ukmayofilo iyo Cemi saqcieliT. ar
maxsovs, mamas CemTvis SeniSvna moeces... ilia WavWavaZis saxelobis, Tbilisis 23-e saSualo skola davamTavre.
es skola yovelTvis gamoirCeoda cnobili pedagogebiT. aseve gamorCeuli
iyo moswavleTa kontingentiT. am skolis kursdamTavrebulTagan,
SemdgomSi bevri cnobili moRvawe
gamxdara. skola 1974 wels davamTavre.
kargi swavliT ar gamovirCeodi. ar
miyvarda qimia, fizika, maTematika. saSemodgomoebic ki mqonia am sagnebSi...
_ Tqveni saqmianoba erovnuli biblioTekis direqtorobis
periodidan ufroa cnobili. manamde ra gza gamoiareT?
_ skolis damTavrebis Semdeg,
erTi weli moskovSi vswavlobdi, saxelmwifo arqivmcodneobis institutSi. Semdeg TbilisSi davbrundi da
ivane javaxiSvilis saxelobis Tbilisis saxelmwifo universitetSi, istoriis fakultetze gavagrZele swavla, specialobiT _ evropis axali
da uaxlesi istoria, magram Semdeg
saqarTvelos istoriis kaTedraze
daviwye muSaoba. am kaTedrasTan 25
wlis ganmavlobaSi _ 1980-dan 2005
wlamde viyavi dakavSirebuli. kaTedris gamgem, qalbatonma marika
lorTqifaniZem, imis gamo, rom umaRlesi sxva specialobiT davamTavre,
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gza
rogorc
kolegaa...
vici,
meuRle
_ diax, Cemi meuRle _ nino
CikvilaZec istorikosia, kerZod _
eTnografi. is Cemi moswavle iyo skolaSi da Semdeg _ studenti. ufros
qaliSvils nuca hqvia, is 25 wlisaa
da daojaxebulia. nucam javaxiSvilis
saxelobis universitetSi sociologiis fakulteti daamTavra. kidev, 2 vaJi
myavs _ daTo da sandro. daTunamac
javaxiSvilis universiteti daamTavra,
ekonomikuri geografiis fakulteti;
sandro jer 10 wlisaa da mexuTe
klasis moswavlea. babuis kvals arc
erTi SviliSvili ar gahyolia, vnaxoT, sandro ras izams.
_ batono zaza, amJamad riTi
xarT dakavebuli?
_ saeklesio-saenciklopedio centris xelmZRvaneli gaxlavarT. am centrma `saqarTvelos marTlmadidebluri eklesiis enciklopedia~ unda
gamosces. samwuxaroa, rom usaxsrobis gamo, am saqmis srulyofilad
Sesruleba ver xerxdeba. SedarebisTvis erT faqts moviSvelieb: moskovSi gamodis mravaltomeuli _
`pravoslavnaia enciklopedia~; TiToeuli tomisTvis naxevari milioni dolari gamoiyofa. Cveni enciklopediisTvis sul 50 aTasi lari
gamoiyo, rac, TavisTavad cxadia,
sakmarisi ar aris.
_ partiuli arasdros vyofilvar. sazogadoebrivi moZraobis _
`daicavi saqarTvelo~ monawile gaxlavarT.
_ bavSvobaSi ar giocnebiaT, mamis profesias dauflebodiT, msaxiobi gamxdariyaviT?
_ saqarTvelos erovnul biblioTekaSi Tqvens moRvaweobas
Tavad rogor SeafasebT?
_ vfiqrob, Cemi mxridan am nabijis
gadadgma Secdoma iyo... mTavar miRwevad ki is mimaCnia, rom `qarTu
jgufTan~ molaparakebis Sedegad
(romelic jer kidev Cems direqtorobamde daiwyo), xeli movawereT xelSekrulebas biblioTekaSi kapitaluri remontisa da rekonstruqciis
Sesaxeb. dRes ukve amis rezultati
miviReT _ biblioTekis mesame korpusi damTavrebulia da misi didi
darbazi Tbilisis erT-erTi RirsSesaniSnaobaa. didi imedi maqvs, rom am
istoriuli Senobebis sruli rekonstruqcia moxdeba _ anu korpusebsac Cautardeba. erT-erT miRwevad isic
mimaCnia, rom me da Cemi moadgile,
levan TaqTaqiSvili moskovSi gavemgzavreT da didi raodenobiT literatura CamovitaneT. am yvelafrisTvis
_ ara. erTaderTxel vTqvi mamasTan, _ TeatralurSi xom ar Camebarebina-meTqi? _ da kategoriuli
uari miviRe. Semdeg am Temas aRar
davbrunebivarT...
_ dodo abaSiZis Sesrulebuli rolebdan, romelimes gansakuTrebulad xom ar gamoarCevT?
_ sosanas roli filmSi _ `didi
mwvane veli~ _ gansakuTrebulia; aseve
gamovarCevdi `pirvel mercxalSi~ iasonis rols da `yvaryvare TuTaberSi~ _ yvaryvares. yvaryvare TviTonac
gansakuTrebiT uyvarda...
adamiani
koloriti
nekiT gadagdebuli
2-fuTiani girisa da
`didi pedagogiuri
sabWos~ ambavi
80 wels gadabijebuli Cveni stumari istorikosi gaxlavT, saxeli da gvaric ki istoriuli aqvs _ juanSer
jurxaZe kinomcodne gogi doliZe wers: `Tu quCasa da
sazogadoebaSi qalsac moeqceva kiseri da kacsac, didsac da
patarasac, aqaursac da ucxoelsac, maSin unda icode, rom
sadRac, axlomaxlo dgas juanSer jurxaZe an modis igi
misTvis Cveuli dinji, darbaisluri, ampartavnuli nabijebiT, TiTqos Sua saukuneebidan gadmoutyorcniao drois
manqanas~... asakis miuxedavad, dResac mxned gamoiyureba _
erT-erTi pirveli Coxosania da sportuli formis SesanarCuneblad, Turme yoveldRiurad 4 kilometrs fexiT gadis.
irma xarSilaZe
_ meamayeba, rom jurxa-Ze anu
jurxas Ze var _ saukuneebis win
albaT, ase warmoTqvamdnen am gvars.
qarTuli filmi rom gadaiRes da
ratomRac, `jurRais fari~ waaweres, arasworia _ xalxur mwerlobaSic, vaJa-fSavelasTanac da
lado asaTianTanac saxeli `jurxaa~ moxseniebuli. juanSeri ki
deidam damarqva _ mixeil javaxiSvilis `TeTri sayelos~ erTerTi gmiri moswonebia da _ mis
pativsacemad. Tanac, Zalian esadageba gvars. Cemi winaprebi quTaTurebi iyvnen. papaCems Rvinis
qarxana hqonia. mama _ daviT jurxaZe quTaisSi cnobili pedagogi da skolis direqtori iyo.
dedac, nina obolaZe maswavlebeli gaxldaT. mSoblebis msgavsad,
mec pedagogoba avirCie, keTilSobiluri saqmea da imitom. Cemi
megobrebi `fulebs~ rom atrialebdnen, manqanebs yidulobdnen
da garaJebs aSenebdnen, me skolaSi saqarTvelos istorias vaswavlidi. meuRle, rusudan natroSvilic maswavlebelia, oRond _
qarTuli enisa da literaturis.
maxsovs, 60-ian wlebSi Cvens ojaxze
presaSi statiac daibeWda: `didi
pedagogiuri sabWo~ (icinis). fizikurad Zalian Zlieri viyavi, magram Cxubi ar miyvarda. TbilisSi, veraze var gazrdili, yvelanair xalxTan mqonia saqme, qurdTanac da profesorTanac, magram
arc aravin gamilaxavs da arc
aravis davuCagrivar _ icodnen,
ver momereodnen (icinis).
_ romel skolaSi swavlobdiT?
_ VII vaJTa skola davamTavre
_ axlandeli 53-e sajaro skola.
Cems klasSi swavlobdnen: mecnieri
laSa janaSia, vaso goZiaSvilis
Svili _ daTo, fexburTeli avTo
Wkuaseli... oTar meRvineTuxucesic
Cemi skolelia, oRond Cemze 3
klasiT ukan iyo. eseni wesieri
adamianebi iyvnen, magram xulignebic
xom gvyavdnen, sul muStebze rom
iyurebodnen!
_
Tqven
mainc
gagibedavdnen...
verafers
_ omis Semdgomi wlebi iyo da
an qurdi unda yofiliyavi, an moCxubari _ aba, sxva gasarTobi
araferi hqonda xalxs. erTaderTi,
kinoSi Tu waxvidodi. didi samamulo omi rom daiwyo, dedam tyibulis raionis sofel xresilSi wamiyvana saswavleblad _ xresilis
omze xom gsmeniaT? swored Cems
sofelSi moxda. sxvaTa Soris, iq
var dabadebuli da Zalian miyvars.
samwuxarod, 40 weliwadia, ar vyofilvar _ dedam da deidam soflis saxli gayides da mxolod mogonebebi SemomrCa. amas winaT Cemi
SvilTaSvili movida skolidan da
RimiliT momaxara: ici, babua, maswavlebelma `xresilis omi~ agvixsnao... mokled, ori weli viswavle
xresilSi. mere mamam axalqalaqSi
wagviyvana ojaxi _ samxedro diviziis maRalCinosani iyo, specialuri saswavlebeli daamTavra da
samuSaod iq gadaiyvanes.
_
da-Zma
ar
gyavdaT?
_ erTaderTi Svili viyavi da
imitomac gamovedi aseTi magari
(icinis). 3 weli vcxovrobdiT
axalqalaqSi, mere omic damTavrda da 1945 wels TbilisSi davbrundiT. kvlav Cems skolaSi mivedi. merve klasSi ukve imdenad
mxarbeWiani viyavi da ulvaSic
mamSvenebda, rom milicielebi maCerebdnen _ jaris asakis vegone
da mamowmebdnen, samxedro samsaxurs xom ar varidebdi Tavs. omis
periodSi bavSvebi Zalian daiCagrnen, saWmel-sasmeli akldaT
da ufro galeulebic iyvnen, me
ki axalqalaqSi axal xorcs vWamdi, arc karaqi maklda da yoveldRe TxilamurebiT davsrialebdi,
aman gamajansaRa. 53-e skolaSi maswavlebeli aRar miRebda _ es
kaci merveklaselebTan rogor
davsvao?!. ori klasis damrigebelma deda uariT gamoistumra,
mesames ki TviTneburad davujeqi
klasSi da raRas izamda (icinis)?..
CemTvis saamayo ambavi minda, mogiyveT, swored merve klasSi swavlisas SememTxva: veraze, qurdi
andos ezoSi Cemi Tanaklaseli
biWebi 2-fuTian anu 32-kilogramian girs waawydnen. jurxa _
klaselebi ase meZaxdnen _ giri
xom gWirdeba, wamo, moviparoTo,
_ SemomTavazes. imxanad sad iSovidi girs?! vedroSi vyridi aTas
xaraxuras da ise vvarjiSobdi.
mivediT. ubanSi erTi Ronieri
biWi iyo, denis vadaWkoria, romelic im girs Turme, ori xeliT
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adamiani
koloriti
swevda. mamaCems naTqvami hqonda
_ 2-fuTian girs nekiT vwevdio.
amas ar Sevswrebivar, magram is
ki minaxavs, xelisgulis dartymiT lursmani rom gaiyvana ficarSi. isic vicodi, rom quTaisis
sportul klub `SevardenSi~ aqtiurad varjiSobda, tatuc ki
gaekeTebina _ frTebgaSlil arwivs Zeli mihqonda. sxvaTa Soris,
mama yovelTvis miSlida tatus
gakeTebas da arc arasdros gamikeTebia. mokled, qurdi andos
ezoSi mivedi 53-elebis falavani
da iqauroba vereli biWebiT savse
damxvda. yvela Semomcqeroda da
raRas vizamdi?! giri waqceuli
iyo da nekiT wamovayene, mere ki
nekiTve avwie da Sors gadavisrole. ar gjeraT?
_ batono juanSer, mgoni,
fantastikis sferoSi SeviWeriT!..
_ amas hgonia, vatyueb (siciliT miubrunda batoni juanSeri
meuRles)... mamam ise gamzarda,
tyuils ver vitan, arc gazviadeba miyvars. iseTi Ronieri viyavi,
Saurians (5-kapikians) vRunavdi; Cems
namowafrebs komarovis skola-internatidan dRemde Senaxuli aqvT
zviad spasa
spasa-lars me
gavuTqvi
saxeli, zviad
spasalarma
ki _ me
Cemi da dodos
kinodebiuti `magdanas
lurjaSi~ Sedga
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#42 15.10.2009
gza
is gaRunuli Saurianebi da
Tu gindaT, hkiTxeT. is giri
ki misma patronma maCuqa,
oRond me ki ar wamomiRia,
monacvleobiT, biWebs mohqondaT; momitanes saxlamde da axlac Sin maqvs _
xom davimsaxure (icinis)?!
ase, nel-nela gaviTqvi saxeli ara marto veraze, aramed
mTel TbilisSi. sxvadasxva
ubnis biWebi saCxubrad rom
Seikribebodnen, Cemi ubnelebi ki me wamiyvandnen, mowinaaRmdegeebidan viRac mainc
konstantine gamsaxurdiam
micnobda, CemTan Serkinebas
`didostatis marjvenis~ Cvenebis
Semdeg kolxur koSkSi mimiwvia
Tavs aridebda da yvelaferi
mSvidobianad mTavrdeboda
dad vumzerdi moCxubrebs. irak_ biWebs varigebdi. bolos `mSlim nel-nela ukan daixia da rom
vidobis raindic~ ki miwodes.
momiaxlovda _ juanSer, miSve_
nuTu
wonasworobidan
leo, _ amoTqva (icinis). ori
arafers gamohyavdiT? nuTu TunnabijiT win waviwie da erT-erTs
dac
bavSvobaSi
gametebiT
ise gavartyi, vitrinaSi Sevagde.
aravisTvis dagirtyamT?
cocxali gadarCa. simarTle gi_ sxvaTa Soris, Zalian nervTxraT, maSin ar gavbrazebulvar,
iuli var, magram Tavis moTokva
mxolod megobars miveSvele... maSemiZlia da amitom vCanvar mSvigaliTad, dodo abaSiZe saCxubars
di. mama sul marigebda _ pirveleZebda xolme _ rusTavelze zigma ar gaartya, vinme Semogakvdeba
zagebiT gadi-gamodioda, vinmes
da daviRupebiT; rom gagartyaSemTxveviT mxari rom gaertya. ise,
men, Tu fexze
im dros TbilisSi erT-erTi pirdarCi, mere gaveli magari gamrtymeli gaxlartyio. erTxdaT. JorJika iaSvili iyo kidev
el rusTavelis
Zalian magari. mindoda, gavjiprospeqts mobrebodi, magram Tqmas ver vubevuyvebodiT
davdi _ Cemze 17 wliT ufrosi
oTxni; skolis
gaxldaT... erTxel megobrebTan ermoswavleebi viTad, matarebliT vmgzavrobdi.
yaviT; SemxvemcxeTaSi cnobili goliaTi _
drad eqvsi mosandro kandelaki dagvemgzavra.
dioda da erTkupeSi biWebma baton sandrosTan
ma mxari gamarvaJkacoba da Zala Semiqes. batotya. avijagre.
ni sandros gaoceba ioli ar iyo,
Cemma megobrebarada, Zalian mindoda. uecrad
ma, zandi (Tezeda Taros rkinis sabjeni Sevimuraz) bocniSne, ise miemagrebinaT vagonis
vaZem, msaxiob
kedlisTvis, Cveulebrivi adamizeiko bocvaZis
ani verafriT mohglejda. ver visZmam da irakli
venebdi da gadavwyvite, mecada.
wereTelma mimivxvdi, kupes dazianeba ar moeTxres,
Cven
woneboda Cvens saxelovan Tanamggvadroveo. mozavrs, magram raki Zveli da Sesaabrunes is bikeTebeli vagoni iyo, me ki Zalian
Webi da dascxmindoda Tavis gamoCena, Sevgulies. operis piandi, mTeli sulieri da fizrdapir wignebikuri energia movikribe, daveis maRazia iyo,
Wide rkinis sabjens, kedelsa da
broliTa da
Taros avacale da baton sandros
xis CarCoebiT
gavuwode. aSkarad kmayofilma gagawyobili vimomarTva da RimiliT miTxra: yotrina hqonda,
CaR, ymawvilo, kargia, kargio. sanmis win ki jidro kandelakis es sityvebi Cemxuri idga (dReTvis udidesi jildo iyo... ersac dgas), roTxelac orma megobarma rusTamelsac miveyrvelze, restoran `TbilisSi~ damdeni da mSvi-
koloriti
patiJa. sufras mivusxediT Tu ara,
maleve gverdiT magidisken gagveqca Tvali _ iq cnobili rusi
goliaTi, falavani Jerebcovi ijda, romelic imxanad cirkis arenaze gamodioda da mayurebels
Tavisi ZaliT aocebda: CogburTis burTiviT aTamaSebda 3-fuTian girebs, maRla swevda sagangebo ficarze moTavsebul or veeberTela buRas da kidev ra ileTs aRar atarebda!.. rogorc Cans,
Jerebcovma restoranSic moisurva Zalis demonstrireba _ magidaze xeli (amas msubuqad vambob, Torem tors ufro vuwodebdi) dado da msurvelebi mklavWidSi saasparezod gamoiwvia. erTi
qarTveli oficeri SeeWida, magram rusma wamSi gadauwia xeli.
megobrebi SemomiCndnen _ saqarTvelos Rirsebis sakiTxi dgas, unda
gvasaxeloo, _ da raRas vizamdi?! falavnis magidas mivuaxlovdi Tu ara _ sam arsen poiavilsiao! _ SesZaxa Jerebcovma: albaT smenoda arsena oZelaSvilis
Sesaxeb. mokled, dajdomac ar
macala, xelSi ise `Caigdo~ Cemi
marjvena. ase Zneli iyo SeWideba,
magram aRar vikadre poziciis gamosworeba da... wuTSi davugde
xeli magidaze. gagiJda es giganti, kidev erTxel dameWideo, _
momTxova. meoredac igive rom ganmeorda, gaognebuli Jerebcovi
wamodga, gamecno da daayola, _
43 wlis kaci var da jer aravis
gadauwevia CemTvis xelio; mere
sul gamaoca _ cal muxlze daiCoqa da xelze meambora. maSinve
wamovayene da gadavexvie. meore
diliT ki dodo abaSiZe gadamexvia: yoCaR, rom gvasaxeleo! im
saRamos Cemi gamarjvebis aRsaniSnavad, kvlav restoran `Tbiliss~
vewvieT... Jerebcovma ki Semadara
arsenas, magram warmodgenac ar
hqonda cnobil qarTvel mxatvar
aleqsandre (Sura) banZelaZeze,
romelmac Cemi portretis daxatva moindoma da Zlivs damiyolia erTaderTi argumentiT _
arsena oZelaSvilis tipaJisTvis
mWirdebio. kargi damTxveva gamovida, ara?.. kinoSic bevrs surda, gadaveRe, mepatiJebodnen xSirad. magaliTad, Cemi da dodos
kinodebiuti `magdanas lurjaSi~
Sedga: me mWedlis rolSi var,
dodos kadrebi ki montaJis Semdeg amoWres. lana RoRoberiZemac maTamaSa epizoduri roli
filmSi _ `Tbilisi 1500 wlisaa~... yvelaze mniSvnelovani ki
Cems cxovrebaSi zviad spasala-
adamiani
ris roli gaxldaT _ reJisor
_ ojaxuri tradicia ar davaxtang tabliaSvilis `didostavarRvie. ise ki yvelaferi maintis marjvenaSi~. iciT, ra Tqva
teresebda da yvelaferi gamombatonma vaxtangma? _ juanSer
dioda xelidan. 25 wlis ganmavjurxaZis spasalaris garegnobalobaSi xmlis qarqaSebs vamzaSi saqarTvelos Zliereba ikiTxdebdi da vercxlis, xisa da tyavis
ebao. rogoria?! pirvelma me
Zveli nimuSebis restavraciasac
aRvniSne, rom zviad spasalaris
saukeTesod vakeTebdi. ase kargad
prototipi _ mefe bagrat mesaalbaT, somxebic ver akeTeben (icimis spasalari, didi vaJkaci zvinis). mere es saqme mivatove: moad erisTavia. xom xedavT, zviad
mbezrda, muStaric aRar aris. erT
spasalars me gavuTqvi saxeli,
dros iaraRis saukeTeso koleqzviad spasalarma ki _ me (iciciac mqonda, magram iZulebuli
gavxdi, gameyida. sxvaTa Soris,
nis). `didostatis marjvenis~ pirvesasinj gadaRebaze yovelTvis sakli seriis Cvenebisas darbazSi
uTar jaWvis perangs vicvamdi.
mjdomma konstantine gamsaxurdimere zurab wereTeli SemomiCnam jer WriWinebis WriWinis kadris
da: parizSi qarTuli eTnografigamo gamoxata mowoneba, Semdeg
uli nivTebis gamofenas vawyob
im meZebari ZaRliT dainteresda,
da momyideo. viuare. ramdenjerromelsac filmSi wamlaven, _
me momigzavna kaci. vieSmake da
visia, ar gayidiso?.. bolos ki
iseTi fasi davade _ 50.000 manezviad spasalaris gamoCenisas SesZaTi, TviTon rom eTqva uari. warxa: if, ra mSvenieri zviadia! vin
mogidgeniaT?! _ meore dResve
ariso? Cvenebis Semdeg, ra Tqma
sul tkicina asmaneTianebi Camunda, masTan warmadgines. mere,
iTvala. arada, fuli Zalian
erTxel kolxur koSkSic mimiwvia...
gvWirdeboda, cdunebas veRar gasaerTod, Zalian kompleqsiani
vuZeli da gavatane (daRonda)...
viyavi da siTamame maklda, Torem
vxatavdi kidec, magram namuSevrekidev ufro ukeT gamovCndebodi
kinoSi. miT umetes, kino gamorCeulad miyvar`didi pedagogiuri sabWo~
da da miyvars.
STamomavlebTan erTad
30 wlis ganmavlobaSi TviTon
vwerdi scenarebs, jer 8-milimetriani, Semdeg ki 16-milimetriani aparatiT viRebdi
filmebs, vamJRavnebdi, vamontaJebdi, vaxmovanebdi, xmaurebs vadebdi.
mokled, Sin saojaxo kinostudia maqvs. 2001 wels festival
bidan mxolod giorgi saakaZis
`Tbilisur aisze~ 1968 wels gaportreti Semovinaxe _ es kaci
daRebul Cems or films _ `ar
CemTvis, bavSvobidan, gmirobisa
gaixaros mterma Cvenzeda~ da `proda vaJkacobis idealad iqca... axla
gresi~ _ saukeTeso animaciuri
pensiaze var. `didi pedagogiuri
da dokumenturi filmebis nomisabWos~ meore ucvlel da uerTnaciebSi diplomebi mianiWes. xegules wevrs, Cems meuRle rusudavT? amdeni wlis Semdeg gamimadans, qaliSvil mananasa da mis
rTla!.. bevri masala damigrovojaxs Sevxari; xSirad mstumroben
da, Zvelic da axalic, scenaric
megobrebi, moswavleebi, gansagavamzade da axla, sponsori Tu
kuTrebiT xSirad, Tengizi modioda
gamomiCnda (videomontaJi did xararCvaZe, magram axla mosvlas ise
jebs moiTxovs) juanSer jurxaZeze
xSirad veRar axerxebs... sibere
avtobiografiuli filmis gadamovida, magram mainc ar vtydebi
Rebas vapireb.
_ sul vvarjiSob. xom iciT, kaci
Tu modunda, uqmad dagdebul rki_ ki, magram Tu kino ase
nasaviT daJangdeba...
giyvardaT, istorikosoba ratomRa
airCieT?
gza #42 15.10.2009
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adamiani
kolega
`sensaciuri masalis gamo SeiZleba, garisko
da safrTxec Seuqmna sakuTar Tavs~...
rubrikaSi _ `kolega~ amjerad stumrad telekompania `saqarTvelos~ Jurnalisti, toqSou _
`samxedros~ wamyvani kaxa esebua gaxlavT. kaxa
Tavis profesiasa da saqmeze (romelsac dRes
siamovnebiTa da didi interesiT emsaxureba), uzomod Seyvarebuli adamiania. sanam mis toqSous
SevexebodiT, saubari odnav Soridan daviwyeT.
erTad, toqSou _
`samxedro~ migyavs...
_ ki, asea. erTmaneTs venacvlebiT: erTi
kvira me mimyavs, meore
kvira _ mas. gadacema
eTerSi gasuli zafxulidan gadis.
_ zafxulSi umetesad yvela televiziaSi satelevizio
sezoni ixureba, Tqven
ki axali gadacema
daiwyeT.
lali facia
_ skolis periodSi teqnikuri sagnebi mizidavda, mere meTerTmete klasSi Jurnalistoba gadavwyvite da skolis damTavrebis Semdeg universitetSi Jurnalistikis fakultetze Cavabare.
swavlis paralelurad, telekompania `imedSi~ proeqt `dubliorSi~ vmonawileobdi. mere telekompania `mzis~ korespondenti gaxldiT. ori wlis win
ki megobarma, giorgi Tuxarelma, romelic ukve telekompania `saqarTveloSi~
muSaobda, iqve samsaxuris dawyeba SemomTavaza: Jurnalisti sWirdebaT da xom
ar wamoxvidodio? im periodSi intensiurad musikiT viyavi dakavebuli. albaT
viRacebs axsovT kidec, jgufi `Yellow~.
Tavidan Cveni vokalisti nini Sermadini
iyo, mere _ lika SubiTiZe. monawileoba bevr satelevizio SouSi migviRia.
musika telefilmebisTvisac gvaqvs dawerili. seriozuli gegmebi gvqonda...
_ giorgis winadadebas
inve daTanxmdi?
maS-
_ Tavidan davfiqrdi, radganac
samxedro sfero im periodisTvis
CemTvis cota ucxo iyo, magram dRevandeli gadasaxedidan vxvdebi, swori
gadawyvetileba miviRe, telekompania
`saqarTveloSi~ muSaoba rom daviwye
Sexeba mqonda samxedroebTan, Tavdacvis
samoqalaqo ofisTan da am sakiTxebiT
Zalian davinteresdi. ra dagimaloT
da am sferom Zalian gamitaca. mere
Cemi interesebi da ideebi gamiCnda...
_ dRes ki ukve telekompania
`saqarTveloze~ giorgi TuxarelTan
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#42 15.10.2009
gza
_ ki, cota ucnaurad moxda. erT
mSvenier dRes, direqtorma me da
giorgi dagvibara da gviTxra, rom
unda gakeTdes aseTi gadacema, romlis
wamyvanebad Tqven SegarCieT da masze
muSaoba unda daviwyoTo. Cvenc davTanxmdiT da saqmes SevudeqiT. vicodiT
samxedro sferoSi arsebuli problematikis Sesaxeb: ra awuxebdaT
samxedroebs, ra ainteresebda sazogadoebas samxedroebze; sabolood,
SevjerdiT da daviwyeT gadacemaze
muSaoba. giorgi konkretulad ufro
samxedro Temebs amzadebs. me ki ufro
samxedro-samoqalaqo kuTxiT vmuSaob.
_ rogor fiqrob, gaamarTla
spontanurad eTerSi gaWrilma toqSoum?
_ es ufro mayureblis Sesafasebelia da pirvel rigSi, albaT samxedroebis... Tumca samxedroebs, SeiZleba iTqvas, rom moswonT gadacema, radganac
vinc ki mxvdeba _ maRali Tanamdebobis
piri iqneba Tu rigiTi, yvela meubneba,
rom gadacemam gaamarTla. sakuTar azrebsa da ideebsac gvTavazoben. ukugeba aris
da es Zalze mniSvnelovania, radganac
Cven maTTvis vmuSaobT. telekompania
`saqarTvelosac~ xom aseTi devizi aqvs:
`vemsaxurebiT maT, vinc msaxurobs~...
_ sferoSi, romelmac samuSaod
ase mogmarTa da aganTo, dResdReobiT ra mdgomareobaa? gansakuTrebiT sainteresoa, Tu ra viTarebaa am sferoSi omis Semdeg?
_ siaxle ar iqneba imis Tqma, rom
samxedro sfero qveynis arsebobis
qvakuTxedia. SeiaraRebuli Zalebi ki
qveynis arsebobis umTavresi garanti.
dRevandel samyaroSi aravis aqvs imis
iluzia, rom Zalis gareSe, mxolod
gamWriaxi diplomatiiT rame xdeba. admiral nelsons (marTalia, is Cveni Tanamedrove ar aris) aqvs aseTi fraza:
`evropaSi veravin awarmoebs molaparakebebs imaze ukeT, vidre britaneTis
samxedro sazRvao floti~. es niSnavs
imas, rom diplomatia da, ra Tqma unda,
sxva sferoebic Zalian mniSvnelovania
qveynisTvis, magram Tu mas samxedro
Zliereba ar gaaCnia, dRevandel msoflioSi angariSs aravin gagiwevs. rac
Seexeba saqarTvelos SeiaraRebul
Zalebs, jars da jariskacs, maTze augis
Tqma uRirsi saqcielia; dRes samwuxarod aseTi frazebi xSirad ismis.
arada, jari da jariskacic Cveni ar
aris?! isini xom Cveni ojaxebis usafrTxoebas icaven. amitom mis Rirsebas
pativi unda vceT. saWiroa, rom sazogadoeba kidev ufro pativiscemiT
moekidos Tavis samxedroebs, oficrebsa
da samxedro xelmZRvanelobas. saerTod,
samxedro sakiTxebi Zalze faqizi Temaa
da vinc am sferoSi kompetenturi ar
aris, naklebi unda ilaparakos.
_ SarSan, omis dros
iyavi, ras saqmianobdi?
sad
_ sanam omi daiwyeboda, mogexsenebaT,
daZabuli situacia iyo da im yvelafers
Cveni telekompaniis eTeriT vaSuqebdiT.
omis dawyebisas cxel wertilSi viyaviT. mxolod mciredi pauzebi gvqonda,
roca CamovdiodiT da isev ukan vbrundebodiT. rogorc bevri sxva, me iq
reportiori gaxldiT da Cveni
televiziis mayureblisTvis oms vaSuqebdiT... omi, ra Tqma unda, saSinelebaa
da is aravis unda, magram aris situaciebi, rodesac mas Tavidan verafriT
aicileb da unda iomo. rac Seexeba Jurnalisturi TvaliT danaxul oms, es
Cemi cxel wertilSi muSaobis pirveli
gamocdileba iyo. ra Tqma unda, raRacebi ar vicodi da ufros kolegebs _
visac amis gamocdileba hqonda, vekiTxebodi. SevdiodiT soflebSi, dabombil saxlebs vnaxulobdiT, mosaxleobas
vesaubrebodiT... CemTvis dauviwyaria
is emocia, rodesac vnaxe, mosaxleoba
adamiani
kolega
Tu rogori aRfrTovanebiT xvdeboda
Tavis samxedroebs. amis Semyure saocrad
amayi viyavi. isini maT gulSi ixutebdnen, yvelanairad mxarSi edgnen. Jurnalisturi TvalsazrisiT, sainteresoa
cxel wertilSi muSaoba, magram adamianuri kuTxiT, omSi yofnas erTgvari
SiSis momentic axlavs, magram is unda
daiZlios. unda gaixseno profesiuli
movaleoba: rom Sen iq upirvelesad
Jurnalisti xar!..
_ dResdReobiT ramdenad arian
qarTveli Jurnalistebi mzad imisTvis, rom sagangebo situaciebSi imuSaon? sworad imoqmedon?
_ JurnalistebisTvis periodulad
tardeba xolme instruqtaJebi. axla
raRac iniciativac arsebobs, rom
samxedro akademiaSi eqspertma irakli
aladaSvilma JurnalistebisTvis
leqciebi waikiTxos... aseve aucilebelia usafrTxoebis sakiTxebis codnac.
_ am mimarTulebiT mainc ra
unda icodes Jurnalistma?
_ aris elementaruli normebi: mogexsenebaT, rom kameras aqvs wiTeli sinaTle, is ar unda gamoCndes, mas zemodan
raRac unda gadaekras, rom vTqvaT, snaiperisTvis SesamCnevi ar iyo. cxel wertilSi sigaretis moweva ar SeiZleba... saerTod ki, Jurnalistis pirad gadawyvetilebazea damokidebuli, Caigdebs Tu ara is
Tavs safrTxeSi. es aseve damokidebulia
im kompaniazec, romelTanac is TanamSromlobs. Tumca sensaciuri masalis gamo
SeiZleba, gariskos da safrTxec Seuqmnas sakuTar Tavs. pirvel rigSi unda
axsovdes, rom arian adamianebi, visTvisac
is muSaobs, vinc teleekranebTan sxedan
da cxeli wertilidan uaxles informacias elodebian. man swored maTze unda
ifiqros, radganac isini xom am qveynis
moqalaqeebi arian...
_ Tqvens telekompaniaSi pirveli toqSou gaCnda, romelic giorgi TuxarelTan erTad Sen migyavs. ras ganiWebs es?
_ Sens yvelaze saintereso
gadacemas xom ver gaixseneb?
_ pirveli gadacema mivuZRveni Temas _ oficris adgili sazogadoebasa da saxelmwifoSi. masze muSaobisas samuel hantinqtonis wigniT _
`jariskaci da saxelmwifo~ vxelmZRvanelobdi. am wigns samxedroebis `biblias~ eZaxian. is samagido wignia da
samxedro-samoqalaqo urTierTobebze
erT-erTi fundamenturi naSromi gaxlavT, romelic Tornike SaraSeniZem
Targmna. im gadacemaSi Tornike da laSa
beriZe (maiori, oficeri, gaerTianebuli Stabis ganaTlebisa da wvrTnebis
sardlobis xelmZRvaneli) myavdnen
stumrad. saintereso gadacema gamogvivida. is gadacema erT-erTi nimuSi iyo
imisa, risi gakeTebac mindoda: erTsa
da imave Temaze, erTi da imave kompetenciiT Tu rogor saubrobda oficeri da samoqalaqo piri... mas Semdeg,
rac dasavlur modelze gadasvla daviwyeT, Cvens jarSi serJantis axali koncefcia Seiqmna da gadacema am sakiTxsac mivuZRveni. sabWoTa modeli ki serJants mcire funqciebs aniWebda. dRes
yvela serJants safuZvliani ganaTleba
aqvs, bevri dasavleTSi swavlobda.
_ rogor afaseb dResdReobiT samxedroebis mdgomareobas?
_ saxelmwifo yvelafers akeTebs imisTvis, rom samxedro socialurad daculi iyos, hqondes Sesabamisi pirobebi, rac Tanamedrove SeiaraRebul ZalebSi myof jariskacs sWirdeba; mas aqvs
aseve saSualeba, rom ganaTleba dasavleTSi miiRos, aqvs socialuri garantiebi. amitom, mimaCnia, rom sazogadoebas samxedroebis imedi unda hqondes.
isini xom Cvens qveyanas icaven?!.
_ am dargisa Tu sferos
ZiriTad xarvezad ras miiCnev?
_ prioritetad gamocxadebulia
ganaTleba da am mosazrebas mTlianad
viziareb. ganaTleba zedmeti arasdros
aris. Cemi azriT, ganaTleba SegvaZlebinebs imas, rom ukeT davicvaT Cveni qveyana: ganaTlebuli samxedro bevrad ufro Zlieria, vidre _ gaunaTle-
_ telekompania `saqarTvelos~
eTerSi, Cvenamde erTi toqSou giorgi
cxvitavas mihyavda. amitom am mimarTulebiT Cven ar varT
pirvelebi. Cemi azriT, aseganaTlebuli samxedro bevrad ufro
Ti gadacemis arseboba, TunZlieria, vidre _ gaunaTlebeli
dac samxedroebis samoqalaqo integraciis kuTxiT, Zalze mniSvnelovania... Cems
gadacemaSi mowveuli stumrebidan erTi samxedro piria
xolme, meore _ samoqalaqo.
mniSvnelovania, rom maT,
eqspertma da samxedrom erTmaneTi gaicnon, daaxlovdnen
da erTmaneTs azrebi gauziaron. piradad CemTvis ki
mniSvnelovani is aris, rom
am adamianebs Soris mediatori me var da yvelani erTad aseT Temebze vsaubrobT.
beli. is kargad unda erkveodes Tavis
saqmeSi. amave dros unda iyos morCilic, eqvemdebarebodes zemodan miRebul
brZanebebs. ase rom, morCileba da kompetencia _ es samxedros ori yvelaze
mniSvnelovani Tvisebaa, romelic mas
sWirdeba.
_ ras ityvi kompaniaze, romelSic muSaob?
_ telekompania `saqarTvelo~ kargi
televiziaa, is natos standartebiT
muSaobs; marTlac qveyanaSi unda arsebobdes aseTi telekompania, romelic
dros mTlianad samxedro sakiTxebs
dauTmobs. Cveni telekompania aSuqebs
yvelafer imas, rac Tavdacvis struqturaSi samxedro kuTxiT xdeba; CvenTan mzaddeba aseve istoriuli filmebic. ase rom, vaSuqebT yvelafers, rac
sazogadoebas samxedro sakiTxebis
Sesaxeb ainteresebs da rac Tavad
samxedroebs ainteresebT. amitom vcdilobT, samxedroebs mivawodoT yvelaferi is, rac maT aRelvebT. telekompanias sakmaod kargi gegmebi aqvs.
gvinda, rom gavxdeT metad popularulebi. Tumca Cveni niSa gvaqvs
dakavebuli, konkurencias aravis vuwevT da Sesabamisad, arc konkurentebi
gvyavs. specifikuri arxia da aseTive
mayurebeli hyavs. saxelic mimaCnia, rom
sworad aris SerCeuli; mas `saqarTvelo~ hqvia. saqarTvelo Cveni qveyanaa
da jaric xom qveyanasTan asocirdeba...
_ modi, axla Sens pirad
cxovrebazec gviTxari rame. daojaxebuli xar?
_ ara, magram myavs Seyvarebuli,
romelTanac seriozuli urTierToba
maqvs da albaT gadavwyvetT, rodis
davqorwindebiT...
_ ise, rogorc gatyob, sul
saqmeze xar orientirebuli da
SeyvarebulisTvis rodis icli?
_ vcdilob, rom yvelaferi erTmaneTTan SevaTanxmo. amisTvis arsebobs Tundac SabaT-kvira, magram Seyvarebulic migebs. icis, rom Cems karierasac unda mivxedo da amisTvis
saWiroa, rom vimuSao.
_ vin aris Seni Seyvarebuli?
_ erT-erTi samodelo saagentos yofili modeli. axla isev
apirebs, miubrundes Tavis saqmianobas. ise, jerjerobiT studentia (momavali ekonomisti).
_
mob?
dros
kidev
ras
uT-
_ Tavdacvis saministros JurnalisTvis statiebsac vwer. aris
kidev raRac saqmeebi, romlebiTac
dakavebuli var. aseve mainteresebs
sagareo politika. zogadad kiTxva
miyvars. ar arsebobs periodi,
raimes rom ar vkiTxulobde. es
Cemi profesiuli zrdisTvis aucilebeli ram aris.
gza #42 15.10.2009
63
adamiani
Tineijeruli pontebi
asaki
da
siyvaruli
dedis toli coli,
mamis toli qmari da
kamaTi siyvarulze
xSiria SemTxveva, rodesac biWi asakiT ufros
qalze qorwindeba da mSoblebi erT vai-uSvelebels
texen, _ ras hqvia, Cvenma Svilma ufrosi qali
SeirToo! mogexsenebaT, ufro miRebulia, roca
asakiT ufrosi kacia, magram maT Soris sxvaoba
arc imdenad didi unda iyos, rom qmari cols
mamad Seeferebodes. swored am Temaze laparakis
survili gauCnda ramdenime Cvens mkiTxvels da
axla swored maT cxovrebaSi CagaxedebT.
ise iRleba, rom sxva raRacebis
Tavi ar aqvs.
lika qajaia
24 wlis:
_ 18 wlis viyavi, roca 34 wlis
kaci Semiyvarda. am faqtma Cemi ojaxis
wevrebi aRaSfoTa, magram maT ganvucxade: me leos colad mainc gavyvebi da Tu damkargavT, es Tqvens sindisze iqneba-meTqi. dedam ukan daixia,
mama ki Seuvali iyo. Tumca, roca
gavTxovdi, Cemi qmari manac gulSi
Caikra. pirveli barieri, romelic
leos Seeqmna, is iyo, rom mamaCems
`mamas~ ver dauZaxebda, radgan masze
sul ramdenime wliT umcrosi gaxldaT. mokled, sasacilo situaciaSi aRmoCnda (icinis).
Sarlota,
_
da
axla
ras
eZaxis?
_ gamosavali ipova _ ivaniCs
eZaxis.
_ axla Sen 24 wlis xar, is
_ 40-is. erTmaneTs isev kargad
ugebT?
_ simarTle giTxra, bevri ramis daTmoba miwevs, raTa Cveni urTierToba ar gafuWdes. magaliTad,
mas sulac ar xiblavs kinoTeatrebSi siaruli, me ki quCaSi gasvla
da sulieri sazrdos miReba Zalian
minda.
_ ki, magram xom SeiZleba,
kinoTeatrSi mis gareSe waxvide?
_ nuras ukacravad, ar moswons,
roca sadme marto mivdivar. meubneba, Tu sadme wasvla mogindeba, me
miTxari da amisTvisac moviclio,
magram roca saqme saqmeze midgeba,
yovelTvis cdilobs, raime moimizezos. 6 welia, col-qmari varT,
magram erTxelac ar gasCenia survili, CemTvis siurprizi moewyo...
am yvelafers miveCvie da aRarc
vubrazdebi. sacodavi, samsaxurSi
64
#42 15.10.2009
gza
_ e.i. miuxedavad yvelafrisa,
Seni cxovrebiT kmayofili xar?
_ nu, roca gaTxovdebi, imiT
unda dakmayofilde, rac im ojaxSi
dagxvdeba. megrelma qalma kaxuri
qudi davixure da movirge kidec.
mTavaria, ar mRalatobs, Svilebsac ar aklebs siTbosa da yuradRebas.
_ ho, magram amis sanacvlod
sakuTar moTxovnilebebze uaris
Tqma rom giwevs...
_ eg araferi. bevr qarTvels
aqvs es problema: sakuTar siamovnebaze uars zogi usaxsrobis, zogi
drois naklebobis gamo ambobs, me
ki survilebis moTokva mxolod imitom miwevs, rom Cemi qmari asakovani da Tan, Zalian dakavebulia.
sul saxlSi rom ijdes, albaT, Tavadac gauCndeboda sadme wasvlis
survili.
_ Sen
rames?
gamo
is
Tu
Tmobs
_ ki. roca vTqvaT, wveulebaze
varT, ise arasdros daTvreba, guli
rom matkinos. saxlSic droulad
modis xolme. Zmakacebs ukvirT da
meubnebian: es kaci ase rogor moarjule, namdvili CxubisTavi bunCula kacad rom aqcieo (icinis)?! mokled, ojaxis SesanarCuneblad msxverpli orivem gaviReT.
marina, 42 wlis:
_ Svilebo, mamistola kacs colad ar unda gahyveT. ratom? SeiZleba, man samyaro sxvanairad daganaxvoT da amiT droebiTi bedniereba ganicadoT, magram wlebs
moaqvs sibere, eWvianoba da SeiZleba, amis gamo ojaxi CemsaviT
dagengreT.
_ Tqveni qmari Tqvenze ramdeni wliT ufrosia?
_ mas karga xania, davSordi. 20
wlis viyavi, roca 39 wlis kacs
gavyevi colad da roca am cxovrebis azrze movedi, aRmovaCine, rom
Cemi rCeuli beberi iyo. ara, garegnulad ki araferi etyoboda da
arc bevri naoWi hqonda, magram
xasiaTi aumJavda, eWvianoba daiwyo, sakuTar Zmakacebsac ki sxvanairad
uyurebda da cdilobda, saxlidan
arsad gaveSvi. erTxel, eWvianobis
niadagze xelic ki gamartya. 30 wlis
qals cxovreba mixaroda, is ki mboWavda mxolod imitom, rom garTobis Tavi aRar hqonda da egona, Tu
Cems nebaze odnav mainc mimiSvebda,
aucileblad vuRalatebdi.
_ iqneb,
liani iyo?
misi
eWvi
safuZv-
_ ar gamovricxav, rom droTa
ganmavlobaSi misTvis meRalata
kidec, radgan garda imisa, rom daberda, araadamianurad meqceoda. Ralatis Sansic bevrjer mqonia, magram aseTi nabiji ar gadamidgams.
miuxedavad yvelafrisa, is mainc
miyvarda da pativs vcemdi. Zalian
rom ar SeveboWe, mTeli cxovreba
masTan davrCebodi da usixarulod
vicxovrebdi.
_ ratom daSordiT?
_ rogorc giTxariT, arafris
gamo xelic ki gamartya da es ver
avitane... erTxel megobarTan saWoraod mivdiodi. rom unda wavsuliyavi, 2 dRiT adre icoda. roca
tanisamosi gamovicvale da makiaJi
gavikeTe, mkiTxa, _ sad midixaro?
_ makasTan-meTqi. _ arsadac ar
waxval, bazarSi unda wavideT, sur-
Tineijeruli pontebi
saTi viyidoTo. _ kviraSi erTxel
mainc xom maqvs ufleba, sadme gavide, isic, cota xniT-meTqi? _
xmis Semobrunebas rogor mibedavo
da xeli gamartya. aba, miTxariT,
misTvis es rogor unda mepatiebina? mere, roca vSordebodiT,
miTxra: im dRes qveviT, sadarbazoSi viRac kaci idga, Cveni binisken
iyureboda da megona, Sen gelodebodao. mokled, bolos molandebebi daewyo.
_
ramdeni
Svili
gyavT?
_ sabednierod Tu saubedurod,
Svili ar gveyola. rogorc eqimebi
meubnebodnen, es Cemi qmris brali
iyo, magram is eqimTan misvlas ar
kadrulobda da davrCiT ase, uSvilZirod... 6 welia, rac qmars
gavSordi. 2 wlis win Tayvanismcemeli _ Cemi Tanatoli kaci gamomiCnda da mas coladac gavyevi. axla
bednieri var. is aranairad ar mboWavs da arc megobrebTan wasvlas
mikrZalavs.
_ Tavidan xom Tqveni pirveli meuRlec araferSi gzRudavdaT? wlebis Semdeg meore qmarmac eWvianoba rom daiwyos...
_ (mawyvetinebs) mwyevli? ara
mgonia, ase moxdes. Cemi qmari Cemive asakisaa da vidre Tavi jer
kidev axalgazrdebad migvaCnia,
erTad verTobiT, urTierTs vendobiT, mere ki siberec erTdroulad mogvikakunebs da roca is daberdeba, Cemze ver ieWvianebs im
ubralo mizezis gamo, rom mec beberi viqnebi (icinis)... vidre me da
Cems pirvel qmars asakobrivi sxvaoba Zalian Segvetyoboda, kargad
vcxovrobdiT, mere ki, roca Tavad
daZabunda, eWvianoba daiwyo da cdilobda, mec davebeCavebine. ar gamouvida!.. uTavmoyvareo rom ar vyofiliyavi, mamis tol
kacs colad ar gavyvebodi. sxvaTa Soris, Cemi
meuRle mamaCemze 5 wliT
umcrosi iyo.
_ Tqvenma mSoblebma ar gaaprotestes, colad mas rom
mihyvebodiT?
_ gaaprotestes romelia, magram jiut qaliSvilTan verafers gaxdnen (icinis). saocrad
Tavneba viyavi da maT
ar davujere. hoda, ise
damemarTa, rogorc dedis win morbenal kvics
_ mgelma ara, magram
beberma kacma Sem-Wa-ma
(icinis). ase rom, gogonebo, Cems saqciels nu
gaimeorebT, nuravis SeaWmevinebT
Tavs...
mamuka, 34 wlis:
_ Tineijerul asakSi, Cemi Tanatolebisgan gansxvavebiT, asakovani
qalebi ar momwonda, magram roca
maT am gatacebam gadauaraT, me
gavgiJdi. Tanac, erTi qalis siyvarulma ise gamagiJa, rom is coladac SevirTe.
_ Tqven Soris sxvaoba ramdeni welia?
_ is Cemze 14 wliT ufrosi
iyo...
_ da aRar aris?
_ Cem gverdiT araa, Torem ise
Zveleburad, mSvenivrad gamoiyureba.
_ Tavis
mogxibla?
droze
man
riTi
_ Tavisi qalurobiT. 20 wlis
viyavi, roca gavicani. madona marTlac, qalRmerTiviT gamoiyureboda
da Tayvanismcemlebic buzebiviT
exveodnen, magram ratomRac, me amomarCia. Cven TavdaviwyebiT Segviyvarda erTmaneTi. im periodSi studenti gaxldiT. roca Cemebma madonas arsebobis Sesaxeb Seityves,
Cemi dafinanseba Sewyvites. egonaT,
is CemTan mxolod fulis gamo iyo
da ase Tu CamomaSorebdnen, magram
mwared Secdnen _ sayvarelma qalma swored amis Semdeg SemomTavaza:
Senebi, faqtia, Cveni daqorwinebis
winaaRmdeg wavlen. girCev, waxvide
da damiviwyo, me marTla bozi ki
ar varo. is marTla Zalian miyvarda, mis dakargvas ver gadavitandi
da amitomac, vuTxari: SenTan erTad minda da Seni saxlidan fexsac
ar gavadgam manam, vidre Tavad ar
gamagdeb-meTqi. bevri rom ar gavagrZelo, madona colad moviyvane,
magram Cvens qorwils misi megobrebisa da ramdenime naTesavis gar-
adamiani
da, aravin daswrebia. ara marto
mSoblebma, aramed Zmakacebmac ver
gamiges. miuxedavad yvelafrisa, mainc
bednieri viyavi, radgan sayvareli
qali gverdiT myavda.
_ da es bedniereba
xans gagrZelda?
ramden
_ sxvaTa Soris, sakmaod didxans _ 9 weliwads da mTeli am
drois manZilze mSoblebi axlosac
ar mikarebdnen, arc Cemma dam mimiRo. marTalia, siZes xSirad vxvdebodi, magram aSkara iyo, CemTan urTierToba masac ar epitnaveboda.
TiTqos, sul raRacis Tqma undoda
da ver meubneboda, erideboda. axlobeli adamianebi mxolod mas Semdeg davibrune, rac madonas davSordi.
_ cols ratom daSordi?
_ samsaxuris dawyebis survili
rom gamiCnda, miTxra: _ ras ambob,
Sen TiTs rogor gaganZrevineb, me
risTvis gyavaro?.. madonas mSvenieri
samsaxuri da kidev ufro mSvenieri
anazRaureba aqvs. mis xarjze cxovrebas miveCvie da bevrma fulma
`gamafuWa~ kidec _ qalebSi daviwye siaruli, smasac movumate. erTxel viRac Worikanam Seatyobina,
gRalatobso da es verafriT mapatia, Sinidan momisrola. sxva gza
ar mqonda da saxlSi wavedi.
mSoblebma mimiRes, magram im pirobiT, rom im qalis gamo maT arasdros mivatovebdi.
_ madona SenTan dabrunebas
arc cdilobda?
_ rogor ara, bevrjer damireka, magram ver vapatie, saxlidan
ZaRliviT rom gamomagdo. Tan,
mivxvdi, rom dro iyo, sakuTari
cxovrebisTvis mimexeda. mSobliur saxlSi dabrunebis Semdeg sul
sxva safiqrali gamiCnda _ wlebis
ganmavlobaSi Cemi
mSoblebi daberebuliyvnen, saocrad motexilebi momeCvennen. amasTan, Zmakacebma rogorc ki gaiges, cols gaSordao,
Sin momakiTxes da
gaxarebulebma gulSi Camikres: Tqmas ver
gibedavdiT, magram
is saSeno qali ar
iyo da mis gverdiT
rom gxedavdiT, guli
gvtkiodao. yvelaze
pirdapiri Cemi siZe
aRmoCnda, romelmac
madonas cxovrebis
Sesaxeb bevri iseTi
ram miambo, rom masze
STabeWdileba saer-
gza #42 15.10.2009
65
adamiani
Tineijeruli pontebi
Tod damekarga. is ki ara, siZes
vusayvedure: amdeni ram Tu icodi,
adre rogor ar miTxari-meTqi?.. ise,
romc eTqva, colis siyvaruliT ise
viyavi dabrmavebuli, amas arc davijerebdi da siZesac samudamod
SeviZulebdi.
_
aseTi
ra
giTxra?
_ iseTi ram, rac mxolod madonas piradi saqmea, misi cxovrebaa
da yvelafris afiSireba saWirod
ar mimaCnia... ubralod, masTan daSorebis Semdeg mivxvdi, rom mTeli 9 weli oqros galiaSi gavatare
da saukeTeso dro tyuilad davkarge.
_
axla
Seyvarebuli
gyavs?
_ erTi ulamazesi gogo Semiyvarda, magram man Cemi cxovrebis
Sesaxeb yvelaferi icis da amis
gamo Tavs maridebs. imedia, Cemi
Secdomis patiebas SeZlebs. bolos
da bolos, erTi Secdoma xom yvelas gvepatieba!
_
anu
Seni
da
madonas
qorwineba Secdomad migaCnia?
_ ra Tqma unda, udidesi Secdoma iyo colad iseTi qalis moyvana, romelic asakiT ar Semefereboda. mas Svili ar hyavda da Cemze
sakuTari pirmSosaviT zrunavda _
maWmevda, masmevda, macmevda. gansxvaveba is iyo, rom me qmris movaleobasac vasrulebdi. es yvelaferi
amazrzenia!
Cemi respondentebis sasiyvarulo
ambebis mosmenis Semdeg gadavwyvite,
satelefoni gamokiTxva Cametarebina
da gamerkvia, ras fiqrobs am TemasTan dakavSirebiT sazogadoeba. gamokiTxulTa umetesobam, mamistola da
dedistola adamianTan urTierToba
gaaprotesta da amas uzneoba uwoda,
xolo zogma aRniSna, rom dRes msgavsi ram aravis ukvirs da rom yvelas Tavisi cxovreba aqvs.
gio, 19 wlis:
_ XXI saukuneSi vcxovrobT da
isev komunisturi azrebi gvawuxebs. ra problemaa, ramdenime wliT
ufrosi gogo rom SevirTo colad? es dedaCemma ratom unda
gaaprotestos? bolos da bolos,
is Cemi coli iqneba, Cemi ojaxis
wevrebis ki ara.
_ rasac axla me meubnebi,
es dedaSenTanac naTqvami gaqvs?
_ ra Tqma unda da is ukve
Seegua im azrs, rom SeiZleba, Sin
asakovani qali mivuyvano. Tumca, amas
jerjerobiT, ar vapireb. Seyvarebuli ar myavs da ar vici, momavalSi vin an rogor Semiyvardeba.
_ ise, Sens yuradRebas umetesad, ra asakis qalebi iqceven?
_ Cemi asakis gogonebi didad
ar momwons. 2-3 wliT ufrosi qale-
66
#42 15.10.2009
gza
bi ufro momwons. isini TiTqos,
metad Camoyalibebulebi arian da
Tineijeri gogonebiviT ar cancareben.
_ Senze 10 wliT
qals Tu SeirTavdi?
ufros
_ Tu Semiyvardeba, arc davfiqrdebi. 10 weli bevrs arafers
niSnavs. ai, 20 weli sxvaoba ki metismetia, aseT asakovan qals verc
gavugeb.
sali, 21 wlis:
_ ra sisulelea! ratom unda
gavyve colad 10 wliT ufross?
ra, aseTi maxinji var? is rom daberdeba, me isev axalgazrda viqnebi
da mere rom vuRalato, ar SeeSindeba? RmerTma damifaros aseTi
saqcielisgan. Cemi qmari Cemze maqsimum, 5 wliT ufrosi unda iyos.
bi
_ Senze pataras Tu gahyvecolad?
_ nu, Tu Cven Soris sxvaoba
Tveebi an 1 weli iqneba, arc ki
davfiqrdebi, magram 2-3 wliT umcross arafriT gavyvebi _ bavSvi
gamovzardo, Tanac _ ufasod, tvingamoleuli ZiZa ki ar var...
zaza, 42 wlis:
_ Cemma Svilma lamis Cemxela
qali rom SeirTos, saxlSi ar SemovuSveb. ra iyo, gogonebi dailia
qveyanaze? mirCevnia, Tavisi asakisTvis Sesaferisi da maxinji gogo
SeirTos, vidre lamazi, magram bebruxana.
_
Tqven
beberi
xarT?
_ 20-25 wlis gogosTvis, wesiT,
beberi unda viyo.
_ am asakSi 20 wlis gogonas SerTvis Sansi rom mogeceT,
uars ityviT?
_ ginda, ojaxi damengres?
_ ras brZanebT, es ratom
unda mindodes? ubralod, kiTxva
dagisviT.
_ ra Tqma unda, ojaxs aravis
gamo ar davangrev!
_ ojaxi rom ar gqondeT
Seqmnili, aseT patara gogos
colad moiyvandiT?
_ (icinis) gulaxdilad gipasuxo?
_
kargi
iqneba.
_ Tu gogos Wkua ar eqneboda
da Cemze uars ar ityoda, ra Tqma
unda, moviyvandi. wiwilis xorci
yvelas moswons.
_ hoda, albaT, asakovan qalebsac moswonT yvinCilebis xorci...
_ gasagebia, magram es miuRebelia. qalma Tavisi adgili unda
icodes.
_ da mamakacs Tavisi adgilis codna ar moeTxoveba?
_ mamakaci susti nebisyofisaa
da Tu qalma winaaRmdegoba ar gauwia,
maxeSi advilad ebmeba. mokled,
mandilosnebi eSmakze odnav adre
daibadeT da amitomac miiCneviT
macduneblebad (icinis).
gizo, 35 wlis:
_ nu, asakiT didi qalebi mec
momwons, magram 10 wliT ufross
colad ver moviyvan, qveynis sasacilo ver gavxdebi. isedac, ra sasiamovnoa, 35 wlis kacs saxlSi 50
wlis qali rom geyoleba? ra, dedis magivroba unda gagiwios? beber cols verafriT Seveguebi. me
axla sisxli miCqebs da TavSi rac
momiva, imas vakeTeb, Camoyalibebuli qali ki verafriT gamigebs. Tu
gamigo, maSin dartymuli iqneba. is
ki ara, Cemi asakis qalebic moberebulebi arian bunebaSi xetialisa
da aqtiuri garTobisaTvis, SedarebiT patarebs ki, Cemi ar iyos,
xiblavT mTa-mTa Zromiali.
_ e.i. asakiT umcrosi gogonas SerTvas apireb?
_ ra Tqma unda!
_ da Seni rCeuli maqsimum,
ramdeni wlis unda iyos?
_ is maqsimum, Cemze 10 wliT
umcrosi unda iyos. ufro patara
rom SevirTo, misi gazrda momiwves, amis nervebi da dro ki namdvilad ar maqvs. gverdiT iseTi qali
mWirdeba, romelic saxlis problemebs ise moagvarebs, rom amas
arc gamagebinebs, me ki mas kacur
saqmeebs ar mivakareb da materialuradac uzrunvelvyof. ise, magari reklama gavikeTe da imedia,
Cemi gacnobis survilic bevrs gauCndeba (icinis).
manana, 50 wlis:
_ es mkrexelobaa. ar mesmis,
Svilistola biWs sxvanairad rogor
unda Sevxedo? vai, Cveni codva, am
serialebma xalxi sul garyvna.
_ vidre qarTul arxebze
serialebi gavidoda, msgavsi ambebi CvenTan ar xdeboda?
_ yovel SemTxvevaSi, iseTi garyvnileba ar iyo, rogoric axlaa.
_ magram bevri iseTi SemTxveva vici, roca gogonebs garigebiT Zalian asakovan, ara marto mamistola, aramed babuistola kacebzec aTxovebdnen...
_ msgavsi ram Cems saaxlobloSi rom momxdariyo, amas aucileblad gavaprotestebdi. vis gaugonia axalgazrda sisxlis beberTan
Serwyma? aseTi ojaxi myari ver
iqneba. sxva Tu araferi, moxuci
eWvianobas daiwyebs axalgazrda
colze, coli ki aucileblad gaaparebs Tvals axalgazrda mamakacisken da mas verc gaamtyuneb.
biblusi
biblusi _ igivea, rac papirusi, gragnili, wigni
wveTi poezia
samefos
simRera
qalo, gnaxe fexSiSvela,
gadahgogdi ezoSia;
genacvale _ kakabs hgvandi,
moseirnes ferdobSia.
visi ZuZu giwovnia,
iisa Tu vardisao!
genacvale, Sav-Tvalwarbav,
gulo Cemis dardisao!
gamigone, sad mirbixar,
Se ujiSos gvarisao?!
Sen Tund frCxilic nu agtkiva, _
sikvdils mivcem sicocxlesa;
erTxel kidev damenaxve,
RmerTi dedas gicocxlebsa!..
vaJa-fSavela
patara leqsikoni
bolo dros gaxSirda erT sityvad
sityvis gaerTianeba, magaliTad:
sxvaTaSoris,
arada,
swori
arcerTi,
or-ori
aramarto.
formebia:
sxvaTa Soris
arc erTi
ara marto
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biblusi
gulaxdili dRiuri
me - fsiqologi
inga jayeli
dasawyisi
ix.
`gza~
#40-41
vaJa saRamos cxra saaTisTvis dabrunda. isev restoranSi dampatiJa, magram uari vuTxari. nomerSi amovatanineT vaxSami da mere gvianobamde
vuyurebdiT televizors.
...es filmi ramdenjerme mqonda nanaxi da isic vicodi, rom male erotikuli scena daiwyeboda. rogorc Cans,
vaJamac icoda. xeliT mWidrod mimikra mkerdze da roca ki ekranze intimuri scenis kulminacia moaxlovda,
imaves gameoreba scada. kocnisas kidev
ara miSavda, TiTqos mec avyevi, magram
rogorc ki ufro Sors wavida saqme,
isev gamovfxizldi da isev uazrobad
momeCvena yvelaferi. isic SevamCnie, rom
vaJa gamocdaze gasuli TineijeriviT
daZabul-aRelvebuli iyo, amitom Cemi
tyuili ufro Sors wavida da Tavad
rom gamikvirda, ise gaviTamaSe kmayofili qalis roli, magram kacs arc
aman uSvela da roca Tavi damaneba,
mivxvdi, isev ver maqcia qalad...
ufro metic, SevamCnie, rom pijakis
gulis jibidan raRac abebi amoiRo
da dalia. mZimed sunTqavda.
_ guli xom ar gaqvs cudad?! _
davfrTxi me.
`egRa maklia, `saswrafos~ gamoZaxeba damWirdes an ufro uaresi _ zed
damakvdes da qveynis salaparako gavxde!~
_ gavifiqre da mivxvdi, rom Cems siyvaruls misdami wyali Seudga...
_ ara, kargad var! _ mipasuxa da
Tvali amarida. mere gverdiT momiwva
da Camexuta. _ miyvarxar da ar SemiZlia Cveulebrivi, rigiTi qaliviT
mogeqce! _ Tavis marTlebasaviT gamouvida.
loyaze vakoce. TiTqos amiT vcade
misi damSvideba da, wina Ramisgan gansxvavebiT, uceb dameZina...
cxra saaTi iyo, vaJam rom gamaRviZa:
_ naSuadRevs aucileblad qalaq-
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Si unda viyo, saRamos ucxoel stumrebs velodebiT. droa, wavideT...
_ Tu ar gewyineba, me kidev davrCebi, ori-sami dRe! _ uceb miviRe
gadawyvetileba.
_ raime xom ar gewyina?! _ SeSfoTda vaJa da sawolze Camomijda.
Cemken movizide da raki erTxel ukve
vikadre, morigi tyuili aRar gamWirvebia:
_ ici, rogor miyvarxar? _ CavCurCule yurSi. mere alersSi aviyole da
roca isev scada, damufleboda, ukve
SevaCere:
_ ara, ra!.. ar SemiZlia... tkivilis
SiSs ver moverie. mapatie...
damemorCila. mere mkiTxa:
_ aq ra unda akeTo martom?
_ ra vici. zRva aqaa da adamianebi
isedac ar maintereseben...
_ kargi, dagtoveb. oRond barem
SabaTamde darCi da mere me CamogakiTxav wasayvanad. aba, `marSrutkiT~ xom
ar iCaqCaqeb...
_ sixaruliT da ucnauris molodiniT dagelodebi! _ gavuRime
mravalmniSvnelovnad da mimixvda:
_ pirobas gaZlev _ tkivils siamovnebad giqcev...
erTad visauzmeT da roca vaJa gavacile, mivxvdi, SvebiT amovisunTqe.
siyalbem damRala da gamaRiziana, Tumca masze fiqri karga xans ver movicile da rac yvelaze samwuxaroa, es
nafiqri sulac ar iyo sasiamovno.
ufro metic: mivxvdi, vaJa CemSi `mokvda~ da rogorc mamakaci, me is aRar
mainteresebda: raRacnairad gacveTili
da, sxva problemebTan erTad, gulis
`frialis~ gamo wamlebze damokidebuli. amis gamo mebraleboda kidec. magram rogorc megobars, advilad ver
gavimetebdi da unda mefiqra im oqros
Sualedze, romelic Cvens urTierTobas tkivils aaridebda.
...karga xans vixetiale sanapiroze
da patara kafeSi mivirTvi yava, romelsac zRvispireTSi yovelTvis gansxvavebulad gemrieli aromati aqvs. xalxi
bevri ar iyo da es msiamovnebda...
sastumroSi mibrunebamde isev plaJze gavedi da mzis Casvlas vucqire.
mere fexiT davuyevi napirs da moxuc
meTevzes gadavawydi, romelmac Zlivs
amoaTria navi wylidan. mixmareba vcade
da ar damaneba:
_ ara, babu, ar qna magi... navs rom
veRar moverevi, movmkvdarvar da egaa!
_ mere dakvirvebiT Semomxeda. _
aqours ar gavxar. qarTulad rom ar
damlaparikebodi, rusi megoneboda da
guli damwydeboda.
_ ratom? ar giyvarT rusebi? _
gameRima.
_ arc mZuls, mara reiza unda miyvardes?! Tan, yvela lamazi qali magenis xo ar unda iyos... rusi qali rac
ufro lamazia, miT ufro advilad
iRebs namusze xels da arc unamuso
dedakacebi miyvars! _ moxucma gulis
jibidan qaRaldis nagleji da TuTunis qisa amoiRo. guldagul Seaxvia. navze Camojda da xarbad gaabola.
xveleba autyda:
_ mklavs da mainc ver veSobi...
_ oqros Tevzi Tu dagiWeria,
babu?.. _ vkiTxe ratomRac.
_ ramdenic ginda! _ eSmakunebi
Causaxlda TvalebSi.
_ matyuebT?! _ ar davujere, ra
Tqma unda.
_ oqros Tevzi rom ar dameWira,
92 wlis kaci martva gavbedavdi zRvaSi
Sesvlas?!..
_ arc eg mjera. didi-didi, 70
wlis iyoT.
_ oqros Tevzis saCuqaria janis
simrTele, Cemi 7 Svili da samjer meti
badiSi. Cemi beberi qalis siyvaruli
da kargad yofnobac! _ isev TvalebiT
icinoda moxuci. TuTunis mowevas rom
morCa, navidan vedro amoiRo. yvelaze
did Tevzs daswvda. jer isev cocxali
iyo. gamomiwoda:
_ gaCuqeb, aferi ar minda Seni...
ukan daviwie:
_ ver movkideb xels, meSinia, Tanac,
sastumroSi vcxovrob...
_ ramferebi xarT axlandelebi! _
ar esiamovna Cemi pasuxi. _ tafaze dabrawuls xom kargad miirTmevT... wamo,
apa, CemTan, stumrad da megvemsaxureba
Cemi beberi...
Tavazianad vuTxari uari da davemSvidobe.
_ ra gqvia? _ dainteresda ratomRac.
_ eka...
_ ekaterine... kai saxelia da kai
gvariSvilic iqnebi, imferi jiSiani xar!
_ ise Semavlo Tvali, mivxvdi, bolomde kacad darCeniliyo. Signidan
asxivebda misi vaJkacuri buneba... eh,
axlandeli kacebi axlosac ver mivlen
Zveli Taobis vaJkacebTan...
nomerSi Sesulma, pirvel rigSi, vaxSami SevukveTe da sanam amomitandnen,
Sxapis miReba gadavwyvite.
is iyo, saabazanodan gamovedi, mokle xalaTiTa da Tmaze pirsaxocmoxveuli, rom karze daakakunes. maSinve
gavaRe da roca nacnobma oficiantma
Semomcina, vigrZeni _ vwiTldebodi...
gaeRima.
_ mapatieT... darwmunebuli viyavi,
qali iqneboda...
usityvod Semoagora gorgolaWi da
sufris gaSla daiwyo.
biblusi
gulaxdili dRiuri
_ ar damewveviT? _ SevTavaze
ratomRac.
_ axla ar mcalia! _ ise ubralod
mipasuxa, TiTqos Cveulebrivi ram
SemeTavazebina. _ daaxloebiT or saaTSi movrCebi saqmes da SemiZlia, sasmelic amovitano...
_ rom ar vsvam?! _ mxrebi aviCeCe.
_ ratom ar damireke? _ moulodnelad mkiTxa pirdapir da arc me
`damiWeria poza~,
_ yvavilebisTvis _ madloba... sxvaTa Soris, mindvris yvavilebi miyvars mxolod da TiTqos icodi...
_ me yvavilebs vadareb qalebs da
Sen is yvavilebi momagone!
ar maRizianebda is, rom distanciis daWeras aRar cdila da mivxvdi,
rom es biWic sakuTari Tavis `saCuqrad~ mindoda.
_ dagelodebi! _ vuTxari mokled.
gamiRima. nabiji ukan gadadga, mere
Sebrunda da kars miuaxlovda.
_ ra gqvia?
_ nika.
... vivaxSme da televizori CavrTe,
Tan sawolSi Cavweqi, mindoda daRlilobis SegrZneba sabolood momexsna.
... nikam 2 ki ara, lamis 3 saaTi
daagviana. isic vifiqre, rom mosvla
gadaifiqra da Tavs gamovutydi _
guli damwyda...
_ saqmes ver movrCi droze! _
miTxra, roca bolos da bolos, Cemamde moaRwia. _ Sampanuri moitana, xilic
da tkbileulic. uniformac gaexada da
isev jinsi ecva.
_ is kaci sadaa, SenTan erTad rom
iyo?! _ mainc daizRvia raRacisgan
Tavi.
_ is kaci arc qmaria Cemi da arc
sayvareli. ase rom, SiSis safuZveli
ar gaqvs... saerTo saqme gvaqvs. imas
eCqareboda, me ki Tavs kidev ramdenime
dRiT darCenis ufleba miveci. SabaTs
CamomakiTxavs wasayvanad da maSin namdvilad ar minda Cem siaxloves gaWaWande...
_ amaRam damtoveb SenTan? _ mkiTxa
uecrad.
ar davibeni, sityva banze avugde:
_ mere, saxlSi ar gagibrazdebian?
Cemi ironia `gaatara~:
_ me Tbiliseli var. aq aravin myavs.
cota xniT gamorideba mWirdeboda da
radgan ucxo qalaqSi ufulod ver
viarsebebdi, samsaxuri daviwye.
_ TbilisSi ra gadagxda?
_ iseTi araferi, magram unda davmaluliyavi... danarCens nu mkiTxav, ra...
_ iqneba kriminali xar da SenTan
ganmartoeba saSiSia!?. _ aviCeCe mxrebi.
_ marTla geSinia? _ Semomxeda
gaocebulma.
wamierad Cavfiqrdi, magram veranairi SiSi ver ganvicade:
_ Sen warmoidgine, wamiTac ar Sem-
Sinebia. Tanac, arc me vapireb Cem Sesaxeb raime informaciis mocemas. TbilisSi rom viyoT, arc moaxloebis
uflebas mogcemdi. Cveni urTierToba
aq damTavrdeba, albaT...
_ SeiZleba! _ ar SemewinaaRmdega
biWi da sufra xelaxla gaawyo. Sampanuric gaxsna da bokali momawoda: _
SemTxveviTobas gaumarjos, Cveni Sexvedris SemTxveviTobas!..
_ da axdenil sizmrebs! _ davamate,
radgan isev sizmriseuli inkasatori
gamaxsenda.
buStukebma cxvirSi momiRutuna. bevri ver davlie.
_ nika, ramdeni wlis xar?! _ vkiTxe.
Tumca eWvic ar Semparvia, rom Cemze
umcrosi iqneboda.
_ ocdaoTxis! _ miTxra da
lamazad daWrili xiliT savse TefSi
dadga ganieri taxtis boloSi, romlis erT mxareze maRal baliSebze naxevrad wamowolili viyavi...
jinsis pijaki gaixada da maisurSi
kidev ufro mimzidveli gaxda misi sxeulis konturebi. xeliT vaniSne, gverdiT momjdomoda.
arc es gahkvirvebia.
xili jer me Camido pirSi da mere
Tavadac gemrielad CakbiCa atmis naWeri.
_ ras uyureb? _ gaxeda televizors.
_ Sen giyureb mxolod! _ vuTxari gamomwvevad da gaecina:
_ e.i. Cemi brali araferi iqneba?..
_ ra Tqma unda! me rom ar mndomoda, cxvirsac ver Semoyofdi Cems
oTaxSi! _ vuTxari da sinaTlis amomrTvels mivwvdi... axla mxolod televizoris ekrani asxivebda mocisfro Suqs.
nikam xilis TefSi magidaze gadado, mere maisuri gaixada...
mkerdze xeli davusvi da iseTi ram
ganvicade, rac vaJasTan ar migrZnia:
sigiJemde mominda, erT sxeulad vqceuliyaviT...
xalaTis erTaderTi Rili gamixsna
da ise momisrisa ZuZusTavi, davikvnese...
mere ra iyo, amis sityvebiT gadmocema ar SemiZlia; goneba aRar memorCileboda da ratomRac, zRvaSi Camaval mzed warmovidgine Tavi, TiTqos
nebierad virxeodi saocrad Tbil da
mSvid talRebze...
_ Sen ra, qalwuli iyavi?! _
gakvirvebuli damcqeroda biWi zemodan.
_ ho... ase moxda... axla uceb gadavwyvite, rom ase gagrZeleba sisulele
iqneboda... hoda, gmadlobT, rom sakuTari TavisTvis aseTi saCuqari gamakeTebine.
_ giJi xar! _ raRacnairad, aRfrTovanebuli micqerda biWi _ ramdeni
wlis xar?
_ ocdaaTis gavxdi guSinwin! _
uyoymanod vupasuxe.
daustvina:
_ aseTi temperamentis patroni 30
weli ram gagaCera kacis gareSe?!. uam-
ravi qali myolia da aseTi siamovneba
TiTqmis arc erTTan ar mimiRia! _
Semomxeda kmayofilma.
avdeqi da saabazanoSi gavedi.
simarTle vTqva, aRarc megona, Tu
qalwulad davrCi vaJasTan gatarebuli ori Ramis Semdeg da is, rac nikasTan moxda, CemTvisac moulodneloba
iyo. SeiZleba iTqvas _ sasiamovno moulodneloba...
nika kmayofili RimiliT micqerda.
_ ra iyo? _ vkiTxe dabneulma.
_ axla ukve vici, rom advilad ver
Segelevi da yvelafers gavakeTeb, Sen
gverdiT darCenis ufleba rom momce... modi CemTan! _ gaSala xelebi da
uari ar miTqvams...
mere, ucodveli bavSvis Zils miveci
Tavi da arc sizmrebs Sevuwuxebivar.
Tvali rom gavaxile, ukve gaTenebuli
iyo. nika sawolTan axlos, dediSobila idga da ratomRac, gavifiqre, rom
sasacilod gamoiyureboda: mamakacs,
rac unda srulyofili sxeuli hqondes,
ver ityvi, lamaziao...
Semdeg SevamCnie, rom xelSi Cemi
telefoni eWira da nomers krebda. ar
mesiamovna. ar miyvars, roca Cems telefons exebian da es Cemma axloblebma
ician. megona, sxvasTan rekavda, magram
roca wamierad ganaTebuli meore telefonis ekrans daxeda, mivxvdi _ Tavis
nomerze gauSva zari, rom Cemi nomeri
Seenaxa. imwamsve Cemma telefonma dareka da roca biWma Cemken gamoixeda da
Tvalgaxelili daminaxa, uxerxulad
gaiRima:
_ girekaven...
gagrZeleba
Semdeg
nomerSi
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qarTuli deteqtivi
nawarmoebze Tqveni STabeWdileba SegiZliaT gagviziaroT elfostiT
gza.fantazia@gmail.com
ix.
dasawyisi
`gza~ #37-41
goCa manveliZe
_ Zma?! _ sunTqva Seekra gogas.
_ ho... Zma... _ yrud Cailaparaka
Tamarma.
_ rogor... rogor unda momxdariyo aseTi ram?!
_ adamianis barbarosobas sazRvari ara hqonia. Cven arasodes dagaSorebdiT erTmaneTs. magram roca
vaxtangma amis Sesaxeb Seityo, ukve
gviani iyo. Seni tyupiscali ukve
wayvanili hyavda sxva ojaxs. vxvdebodiT, ra saSinelebasTanac gvqonda saqme, magram ra unda gveRona?!
samSobiaroSi pirdapir gviTxres: Tu
gindaT, datoveT, sxva ojaxi iSvilebso!.. rogor... rogor unda
davTanxmebodi amas?! rogor unda
dameTmo umweo axalSobili, romelic
ukve sakuTar Svilad mimaCnda... es
saSineleba Cvengan damoukideblad
moxda, magram mainc damnaSaved
vgrZnobdi Tavs. saSineli iyo imis
warmodgena, rom sadRac, SeiZleba
Sors, SesaZloa, TbilisSic cxovrobda Seni tyupiscali... Seni Zma, Seni
sisxli da xorci, da Cven araferi
vicodiT mis yofaze!.. es codva iyo,
romelic mosvenebas ar gvaZlevda.
Sen yvelaferi iyavi CemTvisa da
vaxtangisTvis, is Suqura, romelsac
naTeli Semohqonda Cvens cxovrebaSi. imis warmodgenac ki gviWirda,
Tu ra moxdeboda, im ojaxs, Seni Zma
ki ara, Sen rom waeyvane!.. vaxtangma
ramdenjerme scada Seni Zmis moZebna. imedi hqonda, rom ase mainc gamovisyiddiT Tqven winaSe Cadenil
danaSauls. magram ver moaxerxa. samSobiaroSi is ojaxi ar miaswavles.
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TviTonac ar undodaT am ambis gaxmaureba, Cvenc gveSinoda _ ar vicodiT, rogor miiRebdiT Sen da
Seni Zma realobas. mere ki gadavwyviteT, mogvecada, dro mogveca
TqvenTvis, vidre gaizrdebodiT da
sxva TvaliT SexedavdiT momxdars.
magram ar dagvcalda... visac veZebdiT, TviTon mogvakiTxa!..
_ mogvakiTxa?! risi Tqma ginda,
deda?!
_ zogisTvis codva _ tvirTia,
romelic sicocxlis bolomde unda
ataros, visTvis ki _ xarki, romelic sicocxleSive unda gadaixados!..
CvenTvisac ase yofila dadgenili:
gangebam sakuTari sicocxliT
gvazRvevina axalgazrdobaSi Cadenili codva!.. _ Tamarma Tvalebi
daxuWa da ise ganagrZo laparaki:
_ amboben, adamiani winaswar grZnobs
ubedurebis moaxloebaso!.. me ki im
diliT araferi migrZnia. yvelaferi
ise iyo, rogorc wina dReebSi...
rogorc erTi kviris, erTi Tvis
win. Sen samsaxurSi waxvedi. vaxtangi ar Cqarobda. SuadRisTvis apirebda saxlidan gasvlas. am dros karze
zari darekes. samzeridan gavixede
da Sen daginaxe. vifiqre: raRac darCa
da amitom mobrunda-meTqi. magram
kari gavaRe Tu ara, gaognebuli
gavSeSdi _ ver mivxvdi, vin idga
Cem winaSe, Sen Tu viRac sxva. garegnobiT Zalian ggavda... ggavda ki
ara, Seni oreuli, sarkis anarekli
iyo: igive aRnagoba, Tmis, Tvalebis
feri... xalic ki!.. magram erTi ram
Zalian ganasxvavebda Sengan _
gamoxedva!.. arasodes minaxavs aseTi
civi, borotebiTa da zizRiT aRsavse Tvalebi...
_ vina xar? _ vkiTxe SeSinebulma. metis Tqma ver movaswari. sityva
damTavrebulic ar mqonda, saxeSi
gamartya. dartyma iseTi Zlieri iyo,
rom waviqeci, magram goneba ar damikargavs. xmaurze derefanSi vaxtangi gamovarda. Seni oreuli mzad
daxvda. pistoleti saxeSi daumizna
da Tqva: xmas Tu amoiReb, orives
dagxocavTo!.. ara mgonia, vaxtangs
misi sityvebi gaegonos. muqaraze
metad, misma saxem dazafra. vgrZnobdi, rom CemsaviT gaognebuli iyo.
_ es beberi bozi aqedan gaaTrie da divanze daegdeT! _ yinuliviT civi xmiT brZana.
vaxtangi CemTan movida, fexze wamomayena da sastumro oTaxSi Semiyvana. is biWi ukan mogvyva. Tan pistoletis lulas ar gvaSorebda.
_ xati! _ mokled wamoisrola,
sastumro oTaxSi Semosvlisas.
maSin ki mivxvdiT, rom yaCaRTan
gvqonda saqme.
vaxtangma xeliT aniSna sapirispiro kedlisken, sadac xati ekida.
yaCaRma iqiT gaixeda da adgilze
gaqvavda. amjerad misi gaocebis jeri
dadga: imave kedelze xom Seni suraTic ekida!.. _ Tamarma isev mosva
wyali da laparaki ganagrZo: _
suraTma ise gaaoca, rom mcire xniT
saerTod, davaviwydiT. zurgi Segvaqcia, suraTs miuaxlovda, yuradRebiT daakvirda, mere ki swrafad
Semobrunda da gvkiTxa: es vin ariso?
_ Cveni Svili, _ upasuxa vaxtangma.
ar vici, ratom, magram pasuxma
arnaxulad gaaSmaga:
_ tyui!.. ar SeiZleba, es Tqveni
Svili iyos!..
_ damSviddi... yvelafers agixsniT, _ upasuxa vaxtangma.
_ ras amixsni?! ra gaqvs saerTod, saTqmeli?! Tqveni dedac!.. _
iyvira moulodnelad, mere ki adgils moswyda, vaxtangi divanze waaqcia da pistoletis tari ramdenjerme saxeSi Caartya. vaxtangs cxviridan sisxli waskda. mainc ar SeswinaaRmdegebia. isev umeorebda: damSviddi, yvelafers agixsnio!.. is ki
ar usmenda. gaafTrebuli gaiZaxoda: jer Tqven dagxocavT, mere ki im
nabiWvrebsac mivxedavo!.. amas ganuwyvetliv imeorebda da cemas agrZelebda. me veRar SevZeli amis atana,
mxrebSi Cavafrindi da ukan mivizide, rom vaxtangisTvis momeSorebina. is swrafad Semobrunda da mTeli ZaliT gamartya saxeSi. Tavis
Sekaveba veRar SevZeli da divnidan
iatakze gadmovvardi. am dros ucnauri xma Camesma: moguduli xma iyo,
TiTqos Zalian frTxilad dols
qarTuli deteqtivi
Semohkreso... gaWirvebiT avwie Tavi
da vaxtangs gavxede. is gaocebuli
Sescqeroda im biWs, mkerdze ki wiTeli laqa aCnda, romelic swrafad
farTovdeboda... mere me gamomxeda...
Cveni Tvalebi wamiT Sexvda erTmaneTs. ra ar amovikiTxe mis mzeraSi:
tkivili... TanagrZnoba... gaoceba...
tuCebs amoZravebda. veraferi Tqva,
magram tuCebis moZraobiT mivxvdi,
rom Cemi saxelis Tqmas cdilobda...
mere ki... yvelaferi erT wamSi
damTavrda. vaxtangi uecrad moeSva,
cali xeli Camouvarda... xels
swrafad Camohyva sisxlis nakadi,
romelic iatakze TandaTan gubed
dadga... amis mere aRaraferi maxsovs: TvalT damibnelda da goni
davkarge... eqimi xar da Cemze kargad
unda icode, grZnobs rames ugonod
myofi adamiani Tu _ ara. adre
megona, verafers grZnobda _ goneba gaiTiSeboda da sikvdil-sicocxlis zRvarze myofi, samyaros veRar
aRiqvamda, magram ase ar yofila. is,
rom adamiani xmas ar gcems, sulac
ar niSnavs, rom verafers grZnobs.
tanjva... esaa erTaderTi sityva, romliTac am mdgomareobis gadmocema
SeiZleba... goneba erTimeoris miyolebiT acocxlebda warsulis suraTebs. vxedavdi imasac, rac marTla moxda da imasac, razec mxolod
mifiqria: dedaSens, romelic mSobiarobisas daiRupa; mamaSens, romelic xarbad iTvlida Svilebis gayidvisas aRebul fuls... Sen da Sens
Zmas, romlebsac erTmaneTs aSorebdnen... drodadro am suraTebs Seni
bavSvoba enacvleboda... is dReebi,
romlebic me, Sen da vaxtangs erTad
gagvitarebia. Semdeg yvelaferi
Tavidan iwyeboda. magram yvela xilva
erTi da imave suraTiT
mTavrdeboda: vaxtangi wevs
divanze, mkerdze wiTeli
laqa aqvs, mis mklavze ki
sisxlis nakaduli moedineba da iatakze gubdeba...
da Tvalebi... nacnobi saxe
da _ aqamde ucnobi Tvalebi... Seni saxe, nacnobi da
sayvareli, romelSic
borotebiT momzirali
Tvalebi `CausvamT~!.. es
saSinelebaa. ar SemiZlia
da verc SevZleb amiT cxovrebas. me da mamaSenma
bedisweris Secvla vcadeT,
magram araferi gamogvivida da ai, sazRauric...
_ deda, Tqven cudi
araferi CagideniaT, _ mZimed Tqva gogam, _ Tavs
nu itanjav... ibrZole...
mamisgan mitovebuli, Senc ar mimatovo!
_ es ganwmendaa, goga. Cemi cxovreba orad iyo gayofili: Senamde
da _ Sen Semdeg. wlebi velodi im
dRes, rodesac saSualeba momecemoda, Cemi Svili mkerdSi Camekra da
mere, kidev wlebi _ im dRes, rodesac SenTvis simarTlis Tqmas SevZlebdi. es yvelaferi ukve moxda,
_ Cailaparaka Tamarma da Tvalebi
daxuWa.
_ deda!.. _ goga frTxilad Seexo loyaze.
Tamars Tvalebi ar gauxelia. mZimed aswia xeli, Tmaze moefera da
Tqva:
_ vici, rom SenTvis Zalian mZime iyo amis mosmena, magram sxva gza
ar mqonda. simarTles samareSi ver
Caviyolebdi. Sen yvelaferi unda
gcodnoda. es ubedureba Cvens ojaxSi
SenTvis yvelaze axlobelma adamianma Semoitana, magram mtrad nu
moekidebi. mudam gaxsovdes, Tqven
erTma dedam gSobaT, erTnairebi moevlineT am qveyanas da Tu is mkvlelad iqca, mxolod garemos bralia
da ara misi. mxolod erT rames
gTxov: piroba momeci, rom devnas
ar dauwyeb, nurc policias mouyvebi amis Sesaxeb. imasac dampirdi,
rom TviTon moZebni da Zmobas
SesTavazeb...
_ raa?! _ daibna goga. _ Zmoba
SevTavazo adamians, romelmac cxovreba jojoxeTad miqcia?!
_ ara... Zmas! _ Seuswora Tamarma. _ dRes Sen ubedurad grZnob
Tavs, magram ifiqre imaze, Tu raoden
ubeduri unda yofiliyo is, rodesac mkvlelad yalibdeboda!
_ ara, amas ver SevZleb!.. _
biblusi
swrafad Tqva gogam.
_ misi sikvdili an dapatimreba
Svebas ver moganiWebs, Svilo. am
tkivils veRarsad gaeqcevi da rac
ufro meti dro gava, ufro da ufro
cudad igrZnob Tavs. gTxov, momeci
piroba, rom arafers dauSaveb. es
Cemi ukanaskneli Txovnaa!
goga didxans dumda. mere mZimed
Cailaparaka:
_ gpirdebi.
_ gmadlob... _ Zlivs gasagonad
daiCurCula Tamarma.
`ratom? ratom? ratom?.. _ gogas swrafad gauelva gonebaSi. _
ratom movatyue? me xom ver SevZleb am pirobis Sesrulebas! mTeli
cxovrebis manZilze ar momityuebia
da axla vatyueb, _ maSin, rodesac
yvelaze metad uWirs! rogor unda
miviRo Zmad arakaci, romelmac amdeni tkivili mogvayena?!. magram ratom unda momxdariyo es? Tu ase
vgavarT erTmaneTs, ratom gaxda is
mkvleli? mxolod garemoa amaSi damnaSave?! _ sakuTar Tavs hkiTxa gogam. mere ki Tavad upasuxa: _ raSi
mainteresebs, ra garemoSi aRizarda da ratom iqca mkvlelad?! im
arakacma mama momikla da dedis mokvlasac cdilobda. is mteria... mosisxle mteri, romelsac pirvelive
Sexvedrisas, gveliviT unda gavusriso Tavi!..~
palataSi wyvetili signali gaisma. gogam Tavi aswia da sareanimacio aparaturas gaxeda. Tamaris wnevisa da pulsis maCveneblebi swrafad
ecemoda.
_ deda!.. _ goga swrafad daixara sawolisken da odnav SeajanjRara Tamari. magram mas xma ar
gaucia. aparatidan gabmuli signali gaisma.
_ eqimi!.. _ mTeli xmiT
iyvira gogam da karisken
gaiqca.
giorgi derefanSi bolTas scemda, roca reanimaciul ganyofilebaSi
xmauri atyda. male ramdenime eqimic gamoCnda. maT
sirbiliT Cauares gverdiT da kars miRma miimalnen.
_ ra moxda? _ giorgi swrafad miuaxlovda
karTan mdgom sanitars.
_ eeh, _ upasuxa man,
_ ramdeni welia, aq
vmuSaob da mainc ver
SeveCvie: qali kvdeba.
_ kilaZe?! _ sunTqva
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biblusi
qarTuli deteqtivi
Seekra giorgis.
_ ramed xom ar gekuTvnis? _
TanagrZnobiT Sexeda sanitarma.
_ SemiSvi! _ karis saxelurs
waetana giorgi. magram sanitari
swrafad gadaudga win da SeaCera.
giorgim jibidan piradobis mowmoba amoiRo.
_ qalaqis sammarTvelos gamomZiebeli var!
_ hoda, eg sabuTi iq gamoiyeneT.
aq ki reanimaciaa da eqimebis mets
veravis SevuSveb!
_ is mainc gamige, gadarCeba is
qali Tu ara? _ sTxova giorgim.
_ gagigeb, magram mogvianebiT.
xom xedav, ra xdeba! vis scalia
axla CemTvis?! _ upasuxa sanitarma
da kari daketa.
giorgi karga xans eloda sanitris gamoCenas. magram mTeli am
xnis manZilze reanimaciidan aravin
gamosula. bolos moTminebis fiala aevso da kars miadga, sanitari
rom gamoeZaxebina. am dros reanimaciidan goga da morige eqimi gamovidnen. gogas saxe gahfiTreboda,
Tvalebi CaswiTleboda da fexareuli modioda... maT gamomZiebels uxmod Cauares da saordinatoroSi
Sevidnen. cota xanSi ki reanimaciidan sanitarma gamoabija.
_ ukve ici? _ hkiTxa giorgis.
_ gardaicvala?
_ gardaicvala, _ amoioxra sanitarma, _ amden xans ibrZola da
mainc ver moeria sikvdils. eeh, ra
xdeba qveyanaze: cxovrobda xalxi
TavisTvis, aravis arafers uSavebda
da viRac arakacma mTeli ojaxi mospo... rad unda aseTs sasamarTlo?!
saxalxod unda Caqolo, rom sxvamac
ar gaimeoros igive!..
magram giorgi sanitars aRar usmenda. vidre is sityvas daamTavrebda, zurgi Seaqcia da saordinatoroSi Sevida.
goga savarZelSi ijda. saxe xelebSi Caergo.
eqimi mcire xans dascqeroda mis
mocaxcaxe mxrebs. mere abi da Wiqa
wyali miawoda: dalie, dagamSvidebs
da mogamagrebso.
gogam abi gadaylapa, wyali daayola da gamomZiebels miapyro mzera.
_ viziareb Sens mwuxarebas, _
uxerxulad Tqva giorgim.
_ SegiZlia, dagvtovo? _ mimarTa gogam eqims.
man Tavi dauqnia da maSinve gavida saordinatorodan.
_ dedaCemi gardaicvala, _ uTxra
gamomZiebels gogam.
_ vici da Zalian mwyins, _
upasuxa man.
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_ ra ufro gwyins _ misi gardacvaleba Tu is, rom saqmes veRar
gaxsni?..
_ ra Tqma unda, misi gardacvaleba. yvela adamianis sikvdili udidesi
tragediaa.
_ lamazad laparaki gyvarebia,
_ civad miugo gogam, _ ese igi,
saqme aRar gadardebs?!
_ saqme mainc gaixsneba. samwuxarod, es Seni mSoblebisTvis veRarafers Secvlis...
_ ar gainteresebs, ra miTxra
dedaCemma sikvdilis win? _ ikiTxa
gogam.
_ amaze laparaki naadrevad
meCveneba, _ SeniSna giorgim.
_ ratom? _ damcinavad Tqva
gogam. _ mamaCemis sikvdils xeli
ar SeuSlia SenTvis: amocnobebic
Camitare da xatis gayidvaca da vinme
papaSvilis mkvlelobac me momawere!.. axla ra gaqvs mofiqrebuli?
iqneb, dakiTxva geuxerxuleba? rac
unda iyos, ramdenime wuTis win deda
gardamecvala. Tu uxerxulad grZnob
Tavs, sammarTveloSi gamogyvebi da
iq momiwyve dakiTxva. Tu ginda...
_ damSviddi, goga, _ Seawyvetina giorgim, _ mesmis, rasac ganicdi, magram arafris Secvla SemiZlia.
_ me ki SemiZlia!
_ risi Secvla SegiZlia? _
daibna giorgi.
goga adga, miuaxlovda, TvalebSi Caacqerda da uTxra:
_ marTla ar gainteresebs, ra
miTxra dedaCemma?
giorgim dumiliT upasuxa.
_ icode, naRd Sanss uSveb xelidan... xval SeiZleba, aRar movindomo amaze laparaki, _ gaafrTxila gogam.
_ ra giTxra? _ cdunebas veRar
gauZlo giorgim.
_ mkvlelis saxeli!
_ ese igi, dedaSeni mas icnobda?!
_ Sen warmoidgine, icnobda!
_ raxan daiwye, bolomde Tqvi!
vinaa is arakaci?
_ Sen vin ginda, rom iyos?
_ es ukve metismetia!.. _ brazi
moeria giorgis. _ ar ginda ase
laparaki. kmara. danarCenze mere
vilaparakoT!
`ra moxdeba, axla dedis naambobi rom gavumxilo?.. _ gaifiqra
gogam. _ ra unda moxdes?.. ra Tqma
unda, ar daijerebs. bodvad... ara,
ufro uaresad _ Tavis daZvrenis
yvelaze idiotur mcdelobad miiRebs... am yvelafers policiis avantiurad miviCnevdi da Turme raSi
yofila saqme! tyupiscali Zma!.. ara!
is ar aris da arc SeiZleba iyos
Cemi Zma!.. es aRar aris policiis
saqme. es mxolod Cven ors gvexeba
_ me da mas! movZebni... me TviTon
movZebni da...~
_ ramis Tqma xom ar ginda? _
giorgis sityvebma goga fiqrs moswyvita.
_ ese igi, sammarTveloSi wamiyvan?
_ sxvas ras eli Cemgan? prokurors jer ar gadauwyvetia Seni
sakiTxi. yvelaferi dedaSenis Cvenebaze iyo damokidebuli. vwuxvar, ase
rom moxda, magram prokurors sxva
miTiTeba ar moucia. cota dros
kidev mogcem, gonebis mosakrebad,
mere ki sammarTveloSi unda dagabruno!
_ dedis dasaflavebasac ar macliT?!
_ am sakiTxs me ar vwyvet, _
upasuxa giorgim.
_ Tqveni dedac!.. _ gogam braziT
gaaxrWiala kbilebi da elvis siswrafiT moswyda adgils...
prokurori didxans aTvalierebda giorgis Calurjebul Tvals da
Sesivebul yvrimals. mere kedelTan
gamwkrivebul policielebs miubrunda da isev ayvirda:
_ amis mere sadRa gamogeyofaT
Tavi?! yaCaRebs da banditebs ra fexebs mosWamT, roca erTma ubralo
eqimma oTxi kaci gaToxlaT!
_ ukve gamoCnda, rom ubralo
eqimTan ar gvqonia saqme... _ Cavardnili xmiT Cailaparaka erT-erTma
policielma.
_ kidev bedav xmis amoRebas?! _
xmas auwia prokurorma. _ ra davaleba miiRe Cemgan?
_ momexdina eWvmitanilis respublikur saavadmyofoSi badragireba, _ uxalisod upasuxa policielma.
_ dedis mosanaxuleblad mimaval
`ubralo eqims~ badrags gavayolebdi?..
_ ara.
_ is kaci arc yaCaRi iyo da arc
banditi. iyo eWvmitanili! Sen ki _
misi badragi, romelsac saavadmyofoSi unda mieyvana da mere ukan
moeyvana. yvelaferze Sen iyavi pasuxismgebeli! mas arc koWi unda
eRrZo, arc surdo Sehyroda da verc
gaqceva moexerxebina!.. ra gaakeTe
saamisod?!
policiels aRaraferi upasuxia.
_ batono kote, biWebi damnaSaveebi ar arian... _ CaurTo
giorgim.
_ maS, vinaa damnaSave? _ swrafad
miubrunda prokurori.
biblusi
qarTuli deteqtivi
_ me...
_ Seni cotnedadianoba
aravis
sWirdeba! pasuxs yvela erTad vagebT _
mec da Senc. magram
vidre Cemamde moaRweven, am briyvebs
mainc gavyri samsaxuridan!.. da ici, ratom?.. am samsaxurSi
me, Sen da Cvennairebi fiqroben, eseni ki
Cvens nafiqrs asruleben. fiqrisas SeiZleba, nebismieri Secdes,
Sesrulebisas _ ara!
_ xom giTxariT,
yvelaferi Cemi bralia. biWebi me davtove foieSi. ras vifiqrebdi, kilaZe
aseT rames Tu gabedavda?!
_ magram gabeda!..
kargi, magaze mogvianebiT vilaparakebT... Tqven Tavisuflebi xarT, _
policielebs gaxeda prokurorma,
mere ki isev giorgis miubrunda: _
Sen ki dajeqi da yvelaferi normalurad momiyevi!
rogorc ki policielebi kabinetidan gavidnen, giorgi magidas
miujda da laparaki daiwyo:
_ raSic gindaT, damadanaSauleT; gindaT, samsaxuridanac gamagdeT. Tavis marTlebas ar vapireb,
magram erT kiTxvas mainc dagisvamT:
Tqven Tu elodiT kilaZisgan aseT
saqciels?
_ ar velodi, _ gulwrfelad
upasuxa prokurorma, _ amis molodini rom mqonoda, sams ki ara, aT
policiels gagayolebdi.
_ mec ar velodi, _ amoioxra
giorgim, _ magram naTqvamia _ zogi
Wiri margebeliao... aqamde yvela
mimtkicebda, rom kilaZe wesieri,
patiosani axalgazrdaa. axla mainc
xom gamoaCina Tavisi namdvili saxe.
me mgoni, eWvis qveS aRar dgas misi
danaSaulSi monawileoba.
_ magaze laparaki naadrevad
meCveneba. jer is miambe, ra moxda
saavadmyofoSi, _ Tqva prokurorma.
_ eg CemTvisac gaugebaria. dedis gardacvalebis Semdeg, eqimma
kilaZe saordinatoroSi Seiyvana. momxdarma gaurkvevlobaSi Camagdo.
aRar vicodi, ra gamekeTebina. amocnobis Semdeg, saavadmyofoSi ver davtovebdi, magram misi sammarTveloSi wamoyvanac ar gamodioda: rac
unda iyos, adamians deda gardaecvala da sadac unda wameyvana, mis
dakiTxvas mainc ver SevZlebdi. TqvenTan darekvac ar mindoda: Ramis 3
saaTze xom ar SegawuxebdiT!..
_ bavSviviT msjelob. Cvenma samsaxurma dro da amindi ar icis.
roca saWiroa, maSin unda damireko!
_ SeniSna prokurorma.
_ ase Tavidan vfiqrobdi. mere
ki kilaZem magrad gautia. maSinve
gadavwyvite TqvenTan dakavSireba,
magram veRar movaswari.
_ ratom dagesxa Tavs?
_ Tavidanve Sevatyve, rom Zalian
agznebuli iyo, magram amisTvis gansakuTrebuli mniSvneloba ar miminiWebia, yvelaferi dedamisis daRupvas mivawere. mere mivxvdi, rom mxolod amaSi ar iyo saqme. agdebulad,
gamomwvevad melaparakeboda. bolos
marTlac, Rrmad Setopa. dasaSoSmineblad vuTxari, _ Tu ase gaagrZele, sammarTveloSi mogviwevs laparakis gagrZeleba-meTqi!.. es iyo da
es. maSinve gaafTrebuli meca...
_ raa saTqmeli _ kargi Cxubi
scodnia... _ Calurjebul Tvalze
mianiSna prokurorma.
_ ar velodi, Torem... _ SeiSmuSna giorgi. _ erTi dartymiT
gamTiSa. mere iaraRi amarTva da
wavida.
_ Cvens xalxs rogor auara gverdi? _ gaukvirda prokurors.
_ eqimis xalaTi Caucvams da pirbadec aufarebia. Cveni biWebi foieSi
idgnen. raa gasakviri imaSi, rom
reanimaciis mxaridan wamosul eqims
yuradReba ar miaqcies?! iq mxolod
erTi derefania. kilaZe sxva gziT
ver wavidoda da maTac mSvidad gaatares TeTrxalaTiani da pirbadi-
ani eqimi... ise, kmayofilic ki var, ase rom moxda: Cvens biWebs kilaZe
rom ecnoT, ubedureba
datrialdeboda. is ukan
damxevi aRar iyo da amis
gamkeTebeli kaci iaraRsac gamoiyenebda!..
_ ese igi, Seni iaraRi gaitaca.
_ marto iaraRi _
ara, manqanac zed miayola. gasaRebi amomacala jibidan da saavadmyofodan gasulma Cemi
manqaniT gaqusla.
prokurori mcire
xniT Cafiqrda da mere
Tqva:
_ aseTi saqme arasodes mqonia. momkali da,
kilaZis saqcielSi logikas ver vxedav. saavadmyofoSi wasvlamde aSkarad vagrZnobine, rom misi
cixeSi CasmiT ki ara, saqmis gaxsniT
var dainteresebuli. advokatic esaubra; manac agrZnobina, rom patimrobaSi ayvanas ar vupirebdiT. Semdeg dedas Sexvda... davuSvaT, es yvelaferi marTlac man Caidina. davuSvaT, ojaxis wevrebTan SeuTanxmeblad gayida xati, rac mogvianebiT
konfliqtis mizezad iqca. davuSvaT, imave xatis mizeziT, papaSvilTan
Cxubi mouvida, rasac am ukanasknelis mkvleloba mohyva. davuSvaT,
dedamisi ar apirebda amis damalvas
da sakuTari Svilis winaaRmdeg
Cvenebas mogvcemda, magram is mokvda. raRa saSiSroeba unda egrZno
amis Semdeg kilaZes?.. ratom unda
dagsxmoda Tavs, gaetacebina iaraRi, manqana?!. es xom aSkara kriminalia, danaSauli, romlis gamoc is
Zalian didi xniT wava cixeSi!..
_ magaze verafers vityvi, batono kote. kilaZisgan jer arc normaluri saqcieli minaxavs da arc
sityva momismenia. Cemi saqme misi
daWera da braldebis wayenebaa. mere
ki sasamarTlom imsjelos, normaluria is Tu _ SeSlili,
alogikurad moqmedebs Tu _ gaazrebulad... axla Tqvengan mxolod erTs
veli _ kilaZeze respublikuri
Zebnis gamocxadebas!..
_ ho, magaSi marTali xar, _ am
sityvebTan erTad, prokurorma magidis ujridan ramdenime blanki amoiRo da giorgis gauwoda, _ axlave Seadgine dadgenileba misi
ZebnaSi gadacemis Sesaxeb. me xels
mogiwer!..
gagrZeleba
Semdeg
nomerSi
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biblusi
miniromani
winaswarmetyveleba
mari jafariZe
inga sadacaa, 21 wlis gaxdeboda.
misi megobrebi skolidanve gaTxovdnen, is ki ijda da TeTr cxenze amxedrebul princs eloda. TiTqos jibrze, wesieri mTxovnelic ar gamouCnda.
mezobeli goga uxsovari droidan
iyo ingaze uimedod Seyvarebuli, magram gamxdari, `grZeli~ biWi iyo da
ar moswonda. Tanac, is xom misi Tanatoli da mezobeli gaxldaT. gogonas
ufro soliduri mamakacebi moswonda, iseTi, qalis pativiscema rom SeuZliaT da fexzec myarad dganan; Zvirfasi avtomobilic rom hyavT da kargad mowyobili saxl-karic. gogas es
`nakrebi~ ar hqonda. samagierod, yovel saRamos ingas sadarbazosTan idga
da darajobda. gogonas es aRizianebda, gverdiT Cauvlida da mxars zemodan gadasZaxebda _ `goga, ramdenjer giTxari?!~
inga lamazi da mxiaruli gogo iyo,
kargadac swavlobda, magram iseTi saqmro, rogorzec TviTon ocnebobda,
ratomRac, ara da ar gamouCnda.
_ Sen an Tvali geca, an vinmem jado
gagikeTa, _ uTxra erT dRes
Tanakurselma naTiam.
Tavad naTia 17 wlis asakSi gaTxovda da aseT sakiTxebSi Tavi eqspertad
miaCnda.
_ xval TiniasTan wavideT, Segilocavs da raRacebs giwinaswarmetyvelebs
kidec.
_ mkiTxavTan wavide?! araviTar
SemTxvevaSi! am TaRliTebis ar mjera!
_ mtkice uari ajaxa ingam.
_ ver gavige _ ginda gaTxoveba Tu
ara?
_ minda.
_ ar minda, Rrublebidan daeSva
da miwas daenarcxo, magram erTi ram
icode: saqmro TavisiT zevidan ar Camovardeba, _ gaiRima `brZenma~ naTiam,
_ TeTr cxenze amxedrebuli princi
iseTive miTia, rogoric Tovlis babua
an jadosnuri joxiT `SeiaraRebuli~
feria. IX klasSi viyavi, roca mag Tiniam miwinaswarmetyvela, rom Cems momaval qmars maRaziaSi, saiuveliro
ganyofilebaSi vipovidi.
_ mere? _ skeptikurad ikiTxa ingam.
_ mere, mTeli naxevari weli virbine maRaziebSi, sadac saiuveliro
ganyofilebebi iyo, gamyidvelebi ukve
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gza
saxeze mcnobdnen. mere daviRale da
gavifiqre, rom es yvelaferi sisulelea... dro gadis, me wlebi momemateba
da mere viRas davWirdebi?! hoda, jandabas, ukanasknelad Seval da eg iqneba-meTqi.
_ mere? _ ingas TvalebSi interesi gaCnda.
_ maRaziaSi Sevedi da oqroulobis seqciasTan SevCerdi. viRacam mxarze xeli damado. Sevbrundi da simpaTiuri mamakaci SemrCa xelSi. saucxoo
sunamos surnels afrqvevda. mogwonT
es sayureo? _ lamis guli wamivida...
_ diax-meTqi, _ vupasuxe da gavifiqre, rom Tiniam simarTle miTxra.
Tma ukan gadaviyare, rom daenaxa, yurebi
gaxvretili ar mqonda.
_ mere, rao?
_ aRmoCnda, rom Tavisi sacolisTvis saqorwilo saCuqars arCevda.
_ mdaa... da ase wamoxvedi?
_ ho, magram marto ki ara, masTan
erTad wamovedi, yurebis gasaxvretad,
_ naTias tuCis kuTxeebi Rimilma
Seurxia.
_ aki _ sacoleo?!
_ sacole cota fxizlad unda yofiliyo... axla Cems qmars marto arsad
vuSveb: ra ici, ra xdeba?! marTalia,
misi coli var, magram Cemi suraTi
gulis jibiT ar daaqvs! samagierod,
axla me davabijeb sparsul xaliCebze,
piradi stilistic myavs da yovel diliT sauzmeze xizilalas mivirTmev.
_ ar Segecoda?
_ vin? _ ver mixvda naTia. _ sacole? Zvirfaso, Cemsa da saTvalian
gvels Soris is erTaderTi gasxvavebaa, rom me 2 fexi maqvs...
inga iZulebuli gaxda, `kapitulacia~ gamoecxadebina.
meore dRes megobrebi mkiTxav TiniasTan gaeSurnen. misi `ofisi~ swored
ise iyo mowyobili, rogorc wesi da
rigia: yvelafers idumalebis elferi
dahkravda. kedlebi Sindisfrad iyo
SeRebili, fanjrebs wiTeli, foCebiani fardebi amSvenebda, kedlebze uamravi sarke ekida. uzarmazar, antikvarul magidaze kompiuteri, printeri
da `qseroqsis~ aparati idga. ingam
mimoixeda. kedelze prezidentis suraTsa da iatakze _ kalaTSi Casmul
gvels eZebda, magram ver aRmoaCina...
Tiniam gogonebi `mefuri ubraloebiT~ miiRo da eTiopiuri Cai SesTavaza. is ormociode wlis, qera qali
gaxldaT, romelsac saxe grimis sqeli
feniT hqonda dafaruli. mkiTxavi ar-
omatizebul sigarets Zvlis mundStukiT eweoda.
_ gamarjoba, qalbatono Tinia, _
miesalma naTia, _ ai, Cemi megobari
mogiyvaneT. ra ubedureba sWirs, ver
gavigeT, _ ver Txovdeba.
Tiniam kritikuli TvaliT Sexeda
ingas, romelic uxerxulad iSmuSneboda.
_ am saqmes vuSveliT, _ damaimedeblad Tqva qalma, _ modi, aq dajeqi,
_ mkiTxavma gaqucul, tyavis savarZelze miuTiTa. inga napirze Camojda
da megobars SeSinebulma Sexeda. naTias iseTi saxe hqonda, TiTqos eubneboda, nu geSiniao.
_ xeli dade! _ ubrZana Tiniam. _
marjvena, _ daazusta da `qseroqss~
Tavsaxuri axada.
_ aq? _ gaukvirda ingas, magram
xeli mainc dado.
Tiniam Tavsaxuri xels zemodan daado, tuCebi gaawklapuna da Rilaks xeli
daaWira.
`qseroqsi~ amuSavda da ramdenime
wamSi gamosrialda furceli, romelzec
ingas xelisgulis Sav-TeTri anabeWdi
iyo gamosaxuli.
Tiniam viwroCarCoiani saTvale
moirgo da qaRalds yuradRebiT
daakvirda.
inga daZabuli akvirdeboda saxeze
mkiTxavs da cdilobda, misi saxis gamometyvelebiT sakuTari momavali amoecno. is ki drogamoSvebiT marjvena
warbs aswevda da burtyunebda: `aRmosavleTidan dasavleTisken... sainkubacio periodi... ZaRli~...
inga cota SeSinda.
_ qalbatono Tinia, rames xedavT?
_ acaxcaxebuli xmiT hkiTxa.
mkiTxavma pasuxis Rirsad ar CaTvala. qaRaldi gverdze gadado da kompiuteris klaviaturaze TiTebi aakakuna.
ingas sul sxvanairad hqonda warmodgenili mkiTxaobis procesi.
_ nu Relav, _ CurCuliT daamSvida naTiam.
_ ai, Cemo kargo, _ Tiniam saTvale
moixsna da printerze raRac amobeWda.
_ axla gaigeb, ra gelis momavalSi.
gamomarTvi es `bedisweris sfero~, _
mkiTxavma raRac `kubikrubikis~ msgavsi nivTi gauwoda.
ingas gaukvirda, magram `bedisweris sfero~ mainc gamoarTva.
_ maS, ase, _ Tqva Tiniam da misi
mzera printerze amobeWdil, jer kidev
Tbil qaRalds `daerWo~, _ Sen gaTxovdebi mamakacze, romlis saxelic `g~ze iwyeba.
gogonebma erTmaneTs gadaxedes.
_ mas ZaRliT icnob! ZaRli Sens
bedze did gavlenas axdens... naxvamdis!
_ Tinia wamodga, rac imis niSani iyo,
rom mkiTxaobis procesi dasrulda.
_ ki, magram... _ ingam scada, SeeCerebina.
_ me yvelaferi giTxari. fuli sal-
miniromani
aroSi gadaixade da misaRebSi, visi
rigicaa, uTxari, Semovides.
inga gaocebuli gavida gareT.
_ veraferic ver gavige...
_ aba, ra gindoda? Seni momavali
qmris misamarTsac xom ver getyoda?!
_ gabrazda naTia.
_ Sen xom ufro zustad giTxra!
_ samagierod, Sen saxelis pirveli
aso giTxra. es ukeTesi araa? gyavs
vinme nacnobi, visi saxelic `g~-ze iwyeba?
_ `g~-ze? ara, aseTi aravin maxsendeba, _ Tvalze cremli moadga ingas.
_ nu bRavi! mkiTxavma isic xom
giTxra, ZaRliT icnobo? ZaRli Tu
hyavs, albaT fulic eqneba.
_ damcini?! _ cremlnarevi xmiT
uTxra ingam.
_ me vici, rac unda gavakeToT! _
naTias iseTi saxe hqonda, TiTqos genialuri idea gauCnda.
_ ra? _ cremli moiwminda ingam.
_ ici, ra vqnaT?.. kinologTan mivideT an veteqimTan. iq mihyavT ZaRlebi da iqneb vinme swored
iq gamoCndes?.. ZaRlebis
gamofenazec SeiZleba wasvla, _ naTia cota xans gaCumda, rom energia moekriba,
_ mokled, unda vimoqmedoT, ase gaCereba ar SeiZleba. dasanania, rom `g~ze nacnobi ar gyavs, maSin
ufro ioli iqneboda...
_ ara, `g~-ze ki myavs...
mezobeli, goga. jer kidev
bavSvi viyavi, rom Sevuyvardi.
_ eg romelia, `grZeli~ biWi romaa, miamiti gamometyvelebiT?.. biznesmenia
Tu mSoblebi hyvanan mdidrebi?
_ studentia, mesame kursze swavlobs. deda maswavlebeli hyavs, mama
mZRolad muSaobs, romeliRac Tanamdebobis pirTan. Tanac, ZaRli arasodes
hyolia, radgan rogorc vici, bewvze
alergia aqvs.
_ aha-a, gasagebia-a, _ Cailaparaka
naTiam, _ maSin, Tiniam albaT sxva vinme
igulisxma. xvalidan daviwyebT Zebnas. vinc
eZebs, poulobs kidec, xom gagigonia?
...marTlac, orTviani, giJuri Zebnis, ZaRlebis gamofenebze siarulis
Semdeg, rogorc iqna, `g~-saqmros
miagnes.
erTxel, gamofenaze axali lekvi, feliqsi gamoCnda, romelic didi jipiT
moabrZanes. avtomanqanis saWesTan
Savgvremani, simpaTiuri, halstuxiani
axalgazrda mamakaci ijda.
inga am droisTvis ukve, gamofenis
saorganizacio jgufis wevri iyo. is
mamakacs miuaxlovda da RimiliT uTxra:
_ gamarjoba! ra gqviaT? _ Tan,
Tavisi `safirmo~ mzera esrola. _
gamofenis teritoriaze manqaniT Semosvla mxolod gansakuTrebuli saSviTaa daSvebuli.
_ saSvi giorgi mxeiZis saxelzea, _
upasuxa mamakacma.
ingas guli SeufarTxalda. Sinaganma xmam ki ukarnaxa, rom is swored `is~
iyo _ `g~, misi bedi.
mamakaci manqanidan gadmovida, Zvirfasi fexsacmelic `gaamariaJa~ da ukana
kari gamoaRo. feliqsi yefiT gamovarda gareT. mas ukan... patroni mihyva,
romelic xvneSiT gadmovida manqanidan.
inga cali TvaliT uyurebda am yvelafers, radgan orive TvaliT danaxvis eSinoda: feliqsis patroni, giorgi, msuqani, wiTuri, TiTze briliantisTvliani beWdiT `morTuli~ mamakaci
iyo... man gogonas Tvali Caukra, gverdiT medidurad Cauara da SenobaSi
Sevida.
_ giorgi Tqven ar xarT? _ imedgacruebulma hkiTxa im mamakacs,
romelic saWesTan ijda.
_ ara, me giorgis mZRoli var. Sen
aq muSaob? ra gqvia? _ mamakacs Tavisi simpaTiis damalva ar ucdia.
_ amas ra mniSvneloba aqvs?! _
miugo ingam da am adamianis mimarT
yvelanairi interesi dakarga.
_ es `g~ saSineli Sesaxedavia, _
wuwunebda mogvianebiT, naTiasTan
saubrisas, _ sul raRacas Wams. piri
kanfetebiT aqvs gamotenili. masTan
aranairi urTierToba ar minda.
_ xom ar gagiJdi?! es Seni bedia,
romelsac ver gaeqcevi! _ brZnul
azrebs afrqvevda naTia. _ xom xedav,
Tinias tyuili ar uTqvams. egaa Seni
bedi da es iseve naTelia, rogorc is,
rom dRes Rame mosdevs. mag mamakacis
Sesaxeb gazeTebSic wamikiTxavs; saqmiani, Wkviani adamiania.
ramdenime xnis Semdeg inga giorgis
Sexvedraze daTanxmda.
leqciebis Semdeg mamakaci universitetSi akiTxavda, jer maRaziebSi mihyavda, mere _ restoranSi. giorgi
biblusi
xelgaSlili adamiani aRmoCnda da ingas saCuqrebiT xSirad anebivrebda.
gogona saCuqrebs iRebda, magram guli
ekumSeboda. am mamakacis colobis perspeqtiva ar xiblavda. yvelaferi aRizianebda _ Wamis maneriT dawyebuli,
ugergilo xumrobebiT damTavrebuli.
Tavisi `armanis~ pijakiT giorgi iseve
amayobda, rogorc veluri indieli
_ cxvirSi gayrili, axali rgoliT.
magram naTias gavleniT, ingam daijera,
rom bedisweras versad wauvidoda.
2 Tvis Semdeg, giorgim briliantisTvliani saqorwilo rgoli aCuqa
da xeli sTxova. inga daTanxmda.
rodesac am faqtis aRsaniSnavi vaxSmis Semdeg giorgim sacole Sin miiyvana da inga sadarbazoSi marto darCa, emociebma sZlia.
ra xdeba?! mas xom ase undoda gaTxoveba da axla, rodesac am mdidari
kacis sacole gaxda, Tavs bednierad
ratom ar grZnobs?.. asea Tu ise, bedi
usamarTlod moeqca. inga
sadarbazoSi ijda da gulamoskvnili tiroda. ar
undoda, dedas misi cremlebi daenaxa. am dros
kibeze gogam amoiara.
_ inga, Sen xar? _ sibneleSi kargad ver gaarCia
biWma.
_ me var, _ upasuxa
ingam da saxe miabruna, biWs
misi cremlebi rom ar
daenaxa.
_ ra gatirebs? _ mxarze xeli daado gogam.
_ Seni saqme araa!
_ vifiqre, rom dagexmarebodi, _ mSvidad upasuxa ingas uxeSobas SeCveulma gogam.
aman gogonas guli auCuya da ufro atirda. moulodnelad,
gogas simarTle gaumxila _ Tinias
winaswarmetyvelebis, ZaRlisa da giorgis Sesaxeb.
_ ra suleli xar, mkiTxavebis dajereba SeiZleba?! ratom iubedureb
Tavs? Sen xom is ar giyvars! _ TanagrZnobiT savse xmiT uTxra biWma.
gogas keTilma Rimilma, gulwrfelma
TanagrZnobam da simarTlem ingas guli
daumZima.
_ eh, Sen ra gesmis?! giorgi Cemi
bedia da me masze unda gavTxovde.
am naTqvams dumili mohyva. mere gogas saxidan Rimili waeSala.
_ wadi, _ xeli hkra biWs msubuqad.
...qorwili Tvis bolos iyo daniSnuli. mzadebam da facifucma ingas Tavbru daaxvia. stumrebis sia iyo Sesadgeni, kabac _ sayideli... wesiT, es Zalze
sasiamovni procedurebia patarZlisTvis, magram ingas ar uxaroda.
giorgis naTqvammac ki, _ Taflobis
Tves italiaSi gavatarebTo, _ ver
mohgvara sixaruli.
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biblusi
dokumenturi proza
gogasTan kibeze Sexvedra da Tavisi
uxeSi saqcieli mosvenebas ar aZlevda. ingas imedi hqonda, rom biWs
kvlav Sexvdeboda, magram is sadRac
daikarga.
gogonam siamayes sZlia da erT
saRamos gogas karze daakakuna.
_ inga?! _ Zalian gaukvirda gogas dedas.
_ gamarjoba, maia deida, goga
Sinaa? _ uxerxulad SeiSmuSna gogona.
_ Sinaa, _ mokled upasuxa mezobelma, magram ar SeipatiJa.
_ dauZaxeT, Tu SeiZleba, _ inga
mixvda, rom dedam Svilis upasuxod
darCenili grZnobis Sesaxeb icoda.
_ de-e, vinaa? _ gaisma biWis xma
da mere is TviTonac gamoCnda.
_ ratom adeqi? eqimma xom giTxra,
rom unda iwve!
inga gaocebuli uyurebda gogas:
biWs xelebi da saxe wiTeli buStukebiT hqonda dafaruli.
_ ra gWirs? _ rogorc iqna, ena
moabruna, gaocebulma.
_ araferi, male gamivlis, _
darcxveniT miugo gogam.
_ araferic ar gagivlis, vidre
am Sens axal megobars Sinidan ar
gaagdeb! ai, naxe, vin hyavs saxlSi?!
arada, bewvze alergia aqvs da ZaRli
moiyvana. veubnebi, gaagde-meTqi da
ar esmis! _ qalma buTquna lekvi
xelSi aiyvana; lekvi Rrmad sunTqavda da patara, wiTel enas gareT
yofda, Tan interesiT aTvalierebda
ingas.
_ maia deida, me waviyvan lekvs,
SeiZleba? _ SesTavaza ingam. _ cota
xans CemTan iyos, mainc erT sadarbazoSi vcxovrobT da roca mogesurvebaT, naxavT. goga, SeiZleba, lekvi
waviyvano?
_ ra Tqma unda, SeiZleba, _ gogas magivrad dedamisma upasuxa da lekvi
gauwoda, _ moica, mis sayelursa da
saWmelsac gagatan, _ maia Sin Sebrunda.
_ ase Cem gamo moiqeci, xom? _
ingam gogas sxva TvaliT Sexeda.
gaukvirda, rom mis win is awowili
biWuna ki ara, simpaTiuri, maRali mamakaci idga, romelic Zalian keTili
TvalebiT uyurebda da Tbilad uRimoda.
goga xmas ar iRebda.
_ gamojanmrTeldi, xval kidev ginaxuleb, im kviraSi ki SeiZleba,
gaviseirnoT kidec.
_ qorwili? _ gogam, rogorc
iqna, xma amoiRo da ingas Sexeda.
_ qorwili? _ gogos saxeze
Crdilma gadaurbina, magram _ mxolod
ramdenime wamiT. _ qorwilamde Senc
gagivlis alergia da mec yvelaferi
damaviwydeba... _ gauRima mamakacs da
lekvi gulze miixuta.
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#42 15.10.2009
gza
Sexvedrebi stalinTan
fragmentebi
vladimir
karpovis
wignidan
`generalisimusi~
sabWoTa kavSiris braldebis notas 29 noembers fineTis mTavrobam sapasuxo nota aaxla mis
elCs. ai, ramdenime amonaridi am dokumentidan:
`sazRvarze momxdar incidentTan dakavSirebiT, fineTis mTavrobam dauyovnebliv Caatara
gamoZieba. amis Sedegad dadgenilia, rom sazarbazne cecxli, romlis Sesaxebac Tqvens baraTSia
laparaki, fineTis mxridan ar gaxsnila. piriqiT,
Catarebuli kvlevis Sedegad davadgineT, rom
aRniSnuli srolebi 26 noembers, 15 saaTsa da 45
wuTidan, 16 saaTsa da 6 wuTamde drois monakveTSi,
sofel mainilis maxloblad mdebare, sabWoTa
sasazRvro zolis mxridan iyo ganxorcilebuli~...
dasawyisi
omi fineTTan
finurma mxarem agreTve wamoayena winadadeba, rom sabWoTa
sasazRvro komisrebs, finelebTan
erTad, adgilzeve SeeswavlaT saqmis viTareba, raTa darwmunebuliyvnen, rom swored maTi teritoria aRmoCnda cecxlis obieqti.
bolos notaSi jaris gayvanis mzadyofnac iyo gamoTqmuli, oRond
Tu amas orive mxare Seasrulebda.
marSali mereckovi Tavis mogonebebSi werda:
`1939 wlis ivnisis bolos
stalinma gamomiZaxa. mis kabinetSi
kominternis erT-erTi lideri,
bolSevikTa partiisa da msoflio
komunisturi moZraobis cnobili
moRvawe kuusineni damxvda... detalurad aRmiweres Seqmnili politikuri viTareba da gamiziares
SeSfoTeba, romelsac Cveni xelisufleba fineTis mTavrobis antisabWoTa politikis gamo ganicdida...~
amis Semdgom mereckovi msjelobs cnobil koncefciaze, romlis arsi imaSi mdgomareobda, rom
`fineTi SeiZleboda, ori mTavari
_ germanuli da inglisur-frangul-amerikuli _ burJuaziuli imperialisturi dajgufebis antisabWoTa moqmedebis placdarmad
qceuliyo~.
marSals daavales,
ix.
`gza~,
#27-41
moemzadebina moxsenebiTi baraTi,
romelSic mocemuli iqneboda
`agresiisgan sazRvris dacvis da,
maTgan samxedro provokaciis SemTxvevaSi, fineTis SeiaraRebuli
ZalebisTvis kontrdartymis miyenebis gegma~.
rogorc vxedavT, stalini mereckovs mxolod fineTis mxridan
SesaZlo Tavdasxmaze elaparakeboda; mas araferi uTqvams imaze, rom
sabWoTa kavSiris dar gigantze
momcro fineTis ieriSi naklebad
SesaZlebeli iyo da amdenad, krintic ar dauZravs imaze, rom Tavad
apirebda pirveli dartymis miyenebas. albaT swored amitom, roca
mereckovs SesaZlo Tavdasxmisgan
TavdacviTi gegmis Sedgena daavala, swored am dros, samxedro moqmedebis dawyebisTvis mzadebis saidumlo brZaneba gasca.
ai, mereckovis mogonebebis gagrZeleba:
`ivlisis meore naxevarSi kvlav
moskovSi gamomiZaxes. Cemi moxseneba stalinma da voroSilovma moismines. fineTis mxridan SesaZlo
Tavdasxmis SemTxvevaSi sazRvris
dacvisa da misTvis kontrdartymis Cemeuli gegma moiwones da
mirCies, imaze mezruna, rom es
kontrieriSi rac SeiZleba mokle
xanSi ganxorcielebuliyo. roca
vTqvi, Tavmoyrili Zalebi am masStabis operaciisTvis sakmarisi ar
iqneba-meTqi, mipasuxes, rom me leningradis samxedro olqis SesaZleblobebze dayrdnobiT vmsjelobdi, arada, mTeli sabWoTa kavSiris
Zalebi unda gameTvaliswinebina.
Sevecade, SevwinaaRmdegebodi _
fineTis garda, antisabWoTa pro-
biblusi
dokumenturi proza
vokaciaSi sxva qveynebis monawileobis SesaZlebloba vaxsene. mipasuxes, amaze sxvebic fiqrobeno da
gamafrTxiles, rom Semodgomis damdegs kvlav momiwevs imis moxseneba, Tu rogor mimdinareobs TavdacviTi RonisZiebebis ganxorcieleba~.
Tavis mogonebebSi mereckovi
aRniSnavs, rom `arsebobda kontrdartymis sxva variantebic. stalins yvela rodi gamoutania mTavar samxedro sabWoze gansaxilvelad, aramed is TiToeuls calkecalke, adamianTa gansazRvrul,
umetes SemTxvevaSi _ gansxvavebul jgufTan ganixilavda~. erTerTi maTgani _ general SapoSnikovis gegma gaxldaT. mereckovis
TqmiT, genStabis ufross fineTis
moreva rTul amocanad miaCnda da
darwmunebuli iyo, rom sakmaod
daZabuli, mZime, Tveebze gawelili
omi mogviwevda im SemTxvevaSic ki,
didi imperialisturi qveynebic
rom ar Cabmuliyvnen pirdapir konfliqtSi...
ase iyo Tu ise, mainilasTan momxdari incidentisa da saprotesto notebis urTierTgacvlis Semdeg, 30 noembers, dilis 8 saaTze
wiTeli armiis nawilebi ieriSze
gadavidnen.
axla ki movitan kidev erT
Strixs, romelic samwuxarod, Cvens
istorias ar Svenis, magram simarTle yvelaze mniSvnelovania.
1939 wlis 30 noembers _
samxedro moqmedebis dawyebis dRes
_ gazeT `pravdaSi~ gamoqveynda
informacia imis Sesaxeb, rom `dazverviTi RonisZiebis Sedegad, cnobili gaxda fineli xalxisadmi
qveynis kompartiis cekas mowodeba
_ memarcxene Zalebisgan mTavrobis Camoyalibebis Sesaxeb~...
1939 wlis 1-el dekembers sabWoTa jariT dakavebul daba teriokiSi swored aseTi mTavroba Seiqmna da mas fineli komunisti, kominternis aRmaskomis mdivani kuusineni
Caudga saTaveSi. am jgufma `fineTis demokratiuli respublikis~
droebiT saxalxo mTavrobad gamoacxada Tavi.
im dResve sabWoTa mTavrobam
kuusinenis mTavroba aRiara, masTan diplomatiuri urTierTobis
damyarebis Sesaxeb gamoacxada,
xolo ukve 2 dekembers massa da
sabWoTa kavSirs Soris daido xelSekruleba `megobrobisa da urTierTTanamSromlobis Sesaxeb~.
versia _ `dazverviTi RonisZiebis~ Sesaxeb imisTvis iyo saWiro,
raTa yvelas daejerebina, rom sa-
bWoTa kavSirs kuusinenis mTavrobis SeqmnasTan araferi akavSirebda.
magram yvelaferi naTeli xdeba, rogorc ki am `finuri mTavrobis~ dokumentebis dublikatebSi
CavixedavT (isini sabWoTa kavSiris
sagareo politikis arqivSi inaxeba): TiToeul maTgans molotovis
xeliT gakeTebuli Sesworebebi axlavs, rac imaze metyvelebs, rom
`dazverviT RonisZiebamde~ es dokumentebi sabWoTa ministris magidaze ido. rom ityvian, komentari zedmetia...
Cvenma sardlobam fineTis
winaaRmdeg mTeli sazRvris gayolebiT 4 armia ganalaga. mTavari
mimarTulebiT _ kareliis naxevarkunZulze, 9 msroleli diviziis, 1 satanko korpusis, 3 satanko
brigadisgan dakompleqtebuli me7 armia moqmedebda, romelsac
artileria da aviacia erTvoda
da baltiis flotic exmareboda.
miuxedavad imisa, rom mTeli
sazRvris gayolebaze amxela Zalebis koncentrireba moexdina, sabWoTa sardlobas imaze ukeTesi veraferi moefiqrebina, vidre mTavari dartyma im droisTvis yvelaze mZlavri TavdacviTi sistemis _ manerhaimis zolisken miemarTa. 12-dRiani ieriSis Sedegad, jarma, udidesi danakargebiT,
mxolod mTavari jebiris gadalaxva moaxerxa, magram aRniSnuli
zolis ZiriTad poziciebSi SeWra
mainc ver SeZlo, Tavad daiSrita
da ieriSis gagrZelebis unari aRar
Seswevda.
am dros, CrdiloeTiT moqmedi
me-14 armia fineTis teritoriaze
15-20 km-iT Sevida, misgan marcxniv, me-9 armia _ 45 km-iT, me-8 ki
_ 50-80 km-iT.
fineTis jari, Tumca sakmaod
CamorCeboda Cvensas, magram patri-
otuli grZnobiT gulanTebuli
medgrad icavda Tavsa da qveyanas.
is did zians ayenebda wiTel
armias.
msoflio Tanamegobroba aRSfoTebuli iyo sabWoTa kavSiris
qmedebiT. erTa ligam Cveni qveyana
Tavisi rigebidan garicxa da mTel
msoflios fineTis mxardaWerisken
mouwoda. inglissa da safrangeTSi garkveuli wreebi imedovnebdnen, rom es konfliqti did omSi
gadaizrdeboda da rom fineTis
mxardasaWerad, masSi germania Caebmeboda. ufro metic _ sabWoTa
kavSirze Tavdasasxmelad xelsayrel
momentadac miiCnevda...
patara qveynis mier gaweuli
medgari winaaRmdegobiT gaocebuli sabWoTa sardloba iZulebuli
gaxda, sabrZolo moqmedeba SeeCerebina, kareliis naxevarkunZulze
kidev erTi axali armia Seeqmna da
CrdiloeT-dasavleTis fronti
Camoeyalibebina, romelsac generali timoSenko Cauyena saTaveSi.
magram am frontis sardlobamac
ver SeeZlo samxedro xelovnebis
ufro moqnili formebis migneba
da uwindeburad, manerhaimis zolze
pirdapir ieriSebs axorcielebda.
kareliis naxevarkunZulze imdeni
artileriisTvis moeyaraT Tavi, rom
zarbaznebi lamis gverdigverd idga.
TiTqmis mTeli sabWoTa aviaciac
iq iyo koncentrirebuli da cidan
dartymas dartymaze ayenebda mTel
regions.
samdRiani sisxdabombili lismRvreli brZohelsinki lebis Semdeg, udidesi danakargis
fasad, wiTelma
armiam manerhaimis
zolis pirveli
xazi gaarRvia, magram meore verafriT gadalaxa. da
kvlav axali dartymis momzadebas
mihyves xeli: sabWoTa sardloba ganadgurebul diviziebs avsebda. 11 Tebervals sabWoTa sajariso nawilebi kvlav
gadavidnen Setevaze. bolos da bolos, sardlobam scada, SemovliTi gziT _ gayinuli viborgis
srutiT Seetia mowinaaRmdegisTvis.
amis Sedegad, viborgis gamagrebuli raionis zurgSi SeiWra da viborgi-helsinkis gzatkecili gadaWra. 12 martisTvis, manerhaimis
zolis garRveva dasrulda.
gagrZeleba
Semdeg
nomerSi
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biblusi
romani
tura.
_ kargi, lamazo. maSin saxlis gasaRebsac mogcem. roca
mobrundebiT, es saZageli samzareuloSi Cakete, gasaRebi ki
gareT, fexsawmendis qveS dade.
me salonSi unda wavide. ukana
ezodan gadiT, iq parkia,
udides siamovnebas miiReb, ulamazesi bunebaa, gaxalisdebi.
_ ki, magram... Tqven xom
srulebiT ar micnobT... ratom mendobiT? _ iuxerxula
ninim da qals gasaRebi gamoarTva.
_ me Cems intuicias vendobi da ara Sen, _ gaiRima lelukam, _ garda amisa, Capac
gendoba da Cems uZvirfasessac Zalian moewone. aba, Sen
ici, kargi dro gaatare! _
Tqva diasaxlisma, ZaRli iqve,
skamze miaba da qariviT gavarda oTaxidan...
ninim orazrovnad awkipa
warbebi. sainteresoa, vin igulisxma lelukam `uZvirfasesSi~? is xom ara, ucxvirpiro
televarskvlavi, stumarTmoyvareobis rom araferi gaegeba? Tan fiqrobda, Tan
botasebs icvamda, rom Capas
gaseirnebisas komfortulad
yofiliyo. vinicobaa da, gaeqces ZaRli, xom unda gaekidos?..
rogorc ki gareT gamovidnen, Capa yefiT gaqanda win,
radgan mixvda, sadac mihyavdaT.
parkSi Sevidnen Tu ara,
ninis Tavi oazisSi egona. saocarma siCumem da simSvidem
gaaogna. quCidanac ver aRwevda xmauri, iseTi siwynare sufevda irgvliv. aRtacebuli, CapasTan erTad wiTeli kenWebiT mokirwylul biliks
dauyva. mziani dila iyo, amitom parkSi
blomad adamians moeyara Tavi. zogi bavSvs
aseirnebda, zogi merxze Camomjdari wigns
kiTxulobda, zogic ubralod, zafxulis mzes eficxeboda. saSualo asakis
ramdenime mamakaci iqve, mwvaned mobibine
mindorze wamogorebuliyo da luds Seeqceoda. viRac bavSvebi Capas gaeTamaSnen,
rogorc Cans, icnes mezoblis foqsterieri. Capa win garboda, TiTqos ninis im
gzas uCvenebda, saiTac patrons saseirnod dahyavda.
_ imedia, ukan mosabrunebeli gzac
ar SegeSleba, patarav, _ Caiburtyuna
gogonam da daijRana.
TiTqmis parkis boloSi gavidnen. es
is adgili iyo, romelic gios saxlis
ukan mdebare baRs uerTdeboda. gogonasac swored es undoda. aqedan kargad
moCanda saxlis parmaRi, amitom Tu Tornike gareT gamovidoda, nini mas ueWvelad
akrZaluli
ocnebebi
sveta kvaracxelia
nawarmoebze Tqveni STabeWdileba
SegiZliaT gagviziaroT elfostiT
gza.fantazia@gmail.com
dasawyisi
ix.
`gza~
#38-41
lelukam gakvirvebiT Sexeda gogonas.
_ ras ambob, sayvarelo! Sen Seni
problemebi geyofa, Cemic rom ar mogaxvio Tavs!
_ piriqiT, Capas gaseirneba did siamovnebas momaniWebs, Tan jer uamravi
Tavisufali dro maqvs.
qalma swrafi, gamWoli mzera esrola
ninis da Tanxmobis niSnad Tavi daakan-
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gza
SeamCnevda. isedac, ukve igrZno daRla,
amitom Capas Rvedi moqaCa da lurjad
SeRebil grZel merxze Camojda, romlis
sazurgesac viRacis mondomebuli xeliT
amoCiCqnili warwera amSvenebda: `dro
megobrobas amagrebs, siyvaruls _ asustebs~.
`ra boroti xumrobaa!~ _ gaifiqra
ninim da ukmayofilod mobrica tuCebi.
enagadmogdebuli Capa mis fexebTan Cacucqda da aqeT-iqiT yureba daiwyo. rogorc
Cans, Tavadac mohbezrda sirbili.
_ Sors ar waxvide, kargi? _ nini
daixara, ZaRls Rvedi Sexsna da zurgze
xeli gadausva.
swored am dros iqve, buCqebSi raRac
Seirxa. moulodnelobisgan ninisac ki
SeeSinda. foqsterieri adgils moswyda
da buCqnarSi Sevarda. wamic da... gogonas smenas ZaRlis Rrena da katis ganwiruli knavili miswvda. sanam rames
moifiqrebda, katamac da Capamac elvis
siswrafiT Caurbines gverdiT da, TiTqos
molaparakebuli iyvneno, gios baRSi
Secvivdnen... ramdenime wamSi orive Tvals
miefara.
_ o, RmerTo! oRond eg ara!.. _
amoikvnesa ninim da gaqceulebs kvaldakval
mihyva.
uSedegod... mTeli naxevari saaTi eZeba
gogonam foqsterieri, magram mis kvals
ver miagno. sasowarkveTilma amaod iara.
gamwarebulma aRar icoda, ra gzas dasdgomoda. fexebi ukan rCeboda, sanam gios
baRs saguldagulod gadaqeqavda.
is iyo, ukan gamobrunebas apirebda,
rom moulodnelad win ar SeeCexa?! mas
Capa xelSi aetatebina da viwro bilikze
mxiaruli baasiT modioda. mamakacma gogonas danaxvaze ironiulad CaiRima.
_ saqalbatone nini, _ yovelgvari
emociis gareSe Cailaparaka Jurnalistma, _ sulac ar mikvirs, aq rom gxedavT.
Tornikes Tu eZebT, unda gagawbiloT,
is jerac ar dabrunebula.
_ samwuxarod, sastikad cdebiT, _
TavdaWerilad upasuxa gogonam, Tan gulSi, gaCenis dRes iwyevlida.
gios qviSisferi tilos Sarvali da
TeTri perangi ecva, akecili saxeloebiT. fexSiSvela iyo, Tan Tmac sveli
hqonda, TiTqos es-esaa, saabazanodan
gamovidao. `sainteresoa, JRalTmiani
hyavs axla saxlSi Tu qeraTmiani? _
damcinavad gaifiqra ninim. _ Tumca,
CemTvis es, ra Tqma unda, sulerTia~.
gogona mamakacs miuaxlovda da ZaRli gamoarTva.
_ sulac ar vapirebdi Tqvens teritoriaze SemoWras. Capa katas gaekida
da iZulebuli gavxdi, ukan gamovyolodi.
giom misi axsna-ganmarteba mSvidad
moismina da Tavi daaqnia, mere xeli gaiwvdina da gogonas Tmidan patara foToli amoaZvrina. nini ar eloda mamakacisgan aseT Jests da misi Sexebisgan
aTrTolebuli, yurebamde gawiTlda.
romani
_ roca ZaRls parkSi aseirnebT,
sayeluri ar unda moxsnaT. lelukas ar
gaufrTxilebixarT? _ civad ikiTxa giom.
ninim tuCi moikvnita, radgan ucnobebisgan Wkuis darigebas miCveuli ar iyo.
_ sxvaTa Soris, sayeluri ar momixsnia, mxolod Rvedi Sevxseni.
_ es erTi da igivea. Zalian gTxovT,
sityvaze nu gamomekidebiT.
_ arc mifiqria.
_ Tumca darwmunebuli var, romc
gcodnodaT, mainc Tqvensas gaakeTebdiT,
radgan wesebi TqvenTvis arafers niSnavs, Zvirfasuna, ara? xom gamovicani? _
Setevaze gadmovida mamakaci.
_ wesebis dacvas maincdamainc arc
Tqven unda iyoT miCveuli, rogorc mivxvdi, _ ukan ar daixia ninim, _ is ki
ara, roca gWirdebaT, mgoni, Tavad adgenT TqvenTvis sasurvel wesebs. nu nerviulobT, es metad aRar ganmeordeba,
gpirdebiT, _ civad daamTavra saTqmeli.
_ vimedovneb, ase iqneba, _ uxeSad
Cailaparaka giom.
_ mapatieT, rom uneburad SemogeWeriT, magram sanam dagtovebdeT, erTi
ram minda giTxraT. Tqven, ra Tqma unda,
ggoniaT, rom me sxvis ojaxs vangrev da
madanaSaulebT amaSi, magram minda icodeT, rom es ar aris marTali. Tornike
manamde gaeyara meuRles, sanam me xelmeored Semxvdeboda.
_ xelmeored?.. ese igi, adrec icnobdiT erTmaneTs?
_ TiTqmis mTeli cxovreba... iseve,
rogorc Tqven... Takos...
_ eWvi mepareba...
_ iciT, lelam miTxra, rom
Tqven da Tako bavSvobidan erTad izrdebodiT da is
TqvenTvis Zalian Zvirfasi adamiania, amitom jobia, saqmis
kursSi CagayenoT da icodeT,
rom maT colqmrul urTierTobaSi didi xania, bzari gaCnda.
_ Cemi biZaSvilis arCevaniT
aRfrTovanebuli arasdros vyofilvar da arc did imeds
vamyarebdi, rom isini bolomde SerCebodnen erTmaneTs, magram es sulac ar niSnavs, rom
me maT ganqorwinebas siamovnebiT
Sevuwyob xels, _ xma gaumkacrda mamakacs.
_ amas arc me vapirebdi! _
gamomwvevad ganacxada ninim. _
aseTi rameebi TavisTavad xdeba
da sulac ar aris aucilebeli,
maincdamainc vinme mesame iyos
damnaSave.
_ geTanxmebiT, xdeba, amas
ar uarvyof da sakmaod kargad
vicnob statistikasac, _ giom
cxvirze xeli moisva da cali
TvaliT gaxeda gogonas. _ sxva?
kidev ra SegiZliaT miTxraT
Tavis gasamarTleblad?
_ meti araferi... da saerTod, sulac ar var valdebuli, rame agixsnaT.
es ubralod, CemTvis gavakeTe. Tu Tqvenc
araferi gaqvT saTqmeli, davamTavroT
da Cems gzas gavudgebi.
_ namdvilad araferi maqvs saTqmeli, Tumca erT keTil rCevas mogcemT:
dabrundiT Tqvens... _ mamakacma TiTebi
gaatkacuna. _ rogor miTxariT, saidan
varo?
_ baTumidan, _ gaRizianebuli xmiT
amoTqva gogonam, _ didi madloba rCevisTvis, magram me vrCebi, _ is daixara,
Rvedi ZaRlis sayelurs miaba da welSi
gasworda. _ mapatieT, rom Capa gameqca.
_ is Cveni mezoblis kata iyo, babeta,
sparsuli jiSis. Capam erTi rom Caavlos kbili, adgilze gaglejs, rasac
didi usiamovneba mohyveba. ase rom, frTxilad iyaviT, nini.
_ sifrTxileSi ras gulisxmobT _
Capa gyavT mxedvelobaSi Tu? _ nazi
xmiT scada dakonkreteba gogonam.
_ sxvac, Zvirfasuna, ara marto Capa,
_ xazgasmiT Seuswora giom. _ Tumca
darwmunebuli var, Cems rCevas ar gaiTvaliswinebT. gamousworebeli jiuti CanxarT.
nini tuCabzuebuli gatrialda. zurgi
ewvoda, radgan mamakacis daJinebul mzeras grZnobda. ramdenime nabiji rom
gaiara, mitrialda.
_ roca Tornike dabrundeba, iqneb
pativi damdoT da uTxraT, damirekos?!
imedia, lelukas nomeri ar dagviwyebiaT...
gios tuCebi damcinavad Seerxa.
biblusi
_ banaluri komentarisgan Tavs Sevikaveb. ra Tqma unda, aucileblad gadavcem Tqvens danabarebs, Tuki es namdvilad gsurT.
_ diax, msurs, _ jibrianad upasuxa
gogonam, mamakacs civi mzera esrola da
gza ganagrZo...
RmerTo, lamisaa, tradiciad eqces am
kacTan Sexvedra da kamaTi! Tumca amjerad,
wagebuls ar dautovebia `brZolis veli~.
an iqneb, piriqiT?.. aseT kacze danamdvilebiT verafers ityvi. giorgi robaqiZe viRac xom ar aris, cnobili
pirovnebaa, Wkuac ki ekiTxeba. magram arc
ninia mTlad uWkuo, amitomac sxvisi rCevebi araferSi sWirdeba. Tumca erT rames
mainc gaiTvaliswinebs da ueWvelad gamoiCens sifrTxiles...
gio samuSaos miubrunda, magram uceb
aRmoaCina, rom Zalian cud gunebaze dadga.
imis magivrad, rom es Tavxedi gogona
Tavidan moeSorebina, lelukasTan ar
gagzavna?! sakuTar Tavs daabralos, rac
daemarTa. nuTu waramara mis cxvirwin
unda itrialos?! mouwevs awi yoveldRe
misi amrezili fizionomiis yureba! raSi
sWirdeboda es? auuuu! ra gauZlebs axla
am yvelafers!
mamakacma magnitofoni CarTo da firze
Caweril Tavis xmas mousmina. drodadro
kmayofili CaiRimebda, sakmaod sainteresod da damajereblad hyveboda Tomas
jefersonis cxovrebis ambavs. ra lamazad
Camouyalibebia yvela winadadeba! `yoCaR,
gio!~ _ gunebaSi Seaqo Tavi...
roca Canawers mousmina, bloknoti
gadaSala da Semdegi Tavebis gadakiTxvas
Seudga, raTa Caesworebina da
srulyofili versia gadaetana
firze. ara, es bolo varianti
ar moswons, raRac ver gamouvida kargad. Zalian mSrali
eCveneba. netav, risi bralia? xom
ar gadaiRala? iqneb im gogos
udierobam auria guSin Tavgza
da amis gamo gaRizianda?..
TiTqos Tavi ver mouyara
saTqmels... arada, roca Targmnida, es ar ugrZnia. moica,
erTi! is ra SuaSia?.. roca
muSaobda, arc gaxsenebia, ise
iyo Cafluli nawerebSi...
`droebiTi gamRizianeblebi~ mis
Sromis nayofierebaze arasdros axdens gavlenas. aseTebis gamo seriozuli problema
jer ar Sehqmnia. oh, Tornike,
Tornike! Camovides, erTi! naxos, ra scenasac mouwyobs! sadac unda, iq wavides Tavis morig
naSasTan erTad, Tu ara da,
saerTod aorTqldes misi saxlidan, isedac zedmeti mouvida pativiscema. sawyali Tako!
kidev kargi, ar icis, ra dReSia
misi qmari, Torem marTla gascildeboda. aba, vin gauZlebda
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biblusi
romani
egeT lovelass?!
eyofa amaze fiqri, jobia, wuxandeli
saRamo gaixsenos. kargi qali aRmoCnda
kristi... sakmaod mimzidvelic aris da
Wkvianic... arc is damala, gio rom moswonda, pirdapir uTxra, yovelgvari ganazebis gareSe. mamakaci ar gamoricxavda,
vaxSmis Semdeg dizaineri Tavis loginSi
Semoetyuebina, magram bolo momentSi gadaifiqra. aseT saqmeSi aCqareba ar uyvarda. jer kargad unda gaicnos, Sexedos, Semoxedos da roca cnobismoyvareobas bolomde daikmayofilebs, mere ifiqrebs masTan urTierTobis gagrZelebaze. amasTan, kristim axsena, kerZebis momzadeba Zalian miyvars da erTxel CemTan
stumrad dagpatiJebo... `vnaxoT, vnaxoT...
iqneb, marTla kargi diasaxlisia? hoda,
Sevxedav, davagemovneb mis naxelavs da iq
gamoCndeba, ivargebs Tu ara loginSi...~
amis gafiqrebaze Caecina. adre rom ar
yoymanobda amdens?!. albaT asakis bralia. patara biWi xom ar aris, pirvelsave Sexvedraze daxarbdes qals da seqsze gaeqaCos. arc erTi naxviT Seyvarebis sjera. erTi naxviT ki ara, siyvarulis saerTod ar sjera. rogor ecineba
xolme, vinme Tavis siyvarulze rom daiwyebs laparaks!.. arasdros msgavsi ram
ar ganucdia. colsac usiyvarulod SeirTavs albaT. mere ra? gana cota daojaxebula usiyvarulod?! es sulac ar SeuSlis xels imaSi, rom misi qorwineba
Rrma siberemde gagrZeldes. namdvilad
ar iqneba urigo qmari. ojaxi _ sxvaa,
siyvaruli sulac ar aris aucilebeli.
mTavaria, colsa da qmars erTmaneTis
esmodeT. da ara ise, rogorc Tako da
Tornike cxovroben... amis gafiqrebaze
Tavisda uneburad, gonebaSi ninis saxe
amoutivtivda da moiqufra... rogor
Secda, maSinve rom ar Casva is gogo
manqanaSi da ukan, avtosadgurSi ar gaaqana! rogor moiqces axla, rogor gamoasworos situacia?.. savsebiT SesaZlebelia, aseTma Tamamma da lamazma gogom
marTla daungrios ojaxi mis biZaSvils. karga xans Tavdaxrili ijda, mere
raRac gadawyvetileba miiRo, mobilurs gadaswvda da nomeri akriba.
_ alo... Tako, Sen xar? rogor midis saqmeebi?
kviradRe iwureboda. nini adgils
ver poulobda, daZabuli bolTas scemda oTaxSi, Tan cali Tvali telefonisken
hqonda, _ iqneb Tornikem darekoso?..
rogorc iqna, nanatri zari gaisma da
gogona swrafad daswvda yurmils.
_ alo, Torni!
_ lena var, gogo, lenuka... rogor
xar? mainteresebda Seni ambebi, kargad
moewyve? _ daqalma odnav Seayovna, mere
ki xmadabla gaagrZela: _ rogorc vatyob, is Sen gverdiT jer kidev ar aris,
ara?
_ amwuTas ar aris... _ nini Seecada,
ar Sestyoboda sasowarkveTa. _ ar
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damxvda TbilisSi, cudi dro amovirCie wamosasvlelad, magram wuTi-wuTze
velodebi.
_ ki, magram is ra nomeri damitove?
arasworad Camawerine? viRac tipma aiRo
yurmili da Zlivs movaswari Seni saxelis Tqma, rom yvirili daiwyo, arc
macala, wesierad meTqva rame, lamis gamomlanZRa, mere ki es nomeri momca.
_ mapatie, le... damaviwyda Seni
gafrTxileba. ici, radgan Tornike wasuli iyo, gadavwyvite, bina meqiravebina.
ici, ra sayvareli oTaxia? myudro,
lamazi... Tan Zalian iafad Camivarda xelSi. namdvili mercxlis budea... arc ki
mjera, ase rom gamimarTla! _ yvela
sityvas gamozomilad arCevda nini.
_ RmerTma qnas! _ lenukas xmaSi
eWvi gakrTa. _ mTavaria, Sen iyo kmayofili. samsaxurze ra gaige? gamoCnda
rame?
_ jer araferi...
_ gamagebine, roca rames iSovi, kargi? gaviqeci axla, magviandeba.
_ aucileblad, le, aucileblad
gagagebineb. naxvamdis.
ninim yurmili dakida da amoioxra.
axlaRa mixvda, ra saSinel dReSi aRmoCnda... gulze lodiviT daawva raRac.
undoda, daereka dedamisisTvis, eTqva,
rom kargad moewyo, magram ver gabeda.
SeeSinda, ar atirebuliyo. ajobebs, cota
moicados, sanam bolomde ar gairkveva
misi ambebi. deda daarwmuna, karieris
gasakeTeblad gadavdivar TbilisSi, iq
ukeTes pirobebs mTavazobeno... rom
icodes, risTvis gamoiqca, albaT infarqti ar ascdeba sawyal qals... kidev
kargi, ar icis, coliani kaci rom uyvars mis erTaderT qaliSvils.
iseT cud xasiaTze dadga, Tvalebi
cremliT aevso. televizori CarTo, xmas
auwia da loginSi Sewva. mere sabani Tavze
gadaifara da xmamaRla atirda...
diliT adre adga, gamouZinebelsa
da namtiralevs Tvalebi SeSupeboda.
saswrafod Seudga saxis mowesrigebas
_ aseT formaSi samsaxuris saZebnelad
gasvlas azri ar hqonda.
tonalurma kremma da msubuqma makiaJma cotaTi uSvela. Semdeg tansacmlis
SerCevas Seudga. damqiraveblebze
rogorme unda moexdina STabeWdileba
_ sxvanairad, Tbilisis datoveba ar
ascdeboda... sabolood, upiratesoba
ruxi feris tilos moklesaxeloebian
pijaks, Sav qvedabolos, TeTr perangsa
da saSualoquslian Sav fexsacmels mianiWa _ erTdroulad eleganturic iyo
da saqmianic. winadRes lelukam ramdenime misamarTi moutana, sadac SeiZleboda, vakansiebi yofiliyo. rveulis furcelze Camowerili misamarTebis sia CanTaSi Caido da saxlidan imedianad gavida.
erTgan uTxres, rom ori dRiT
daagviana, meoregan iseTi dabali xelfasi SesTavazes, dafiqrebac ki ar Rir-
da, mesamegan TiTqos SedarebiT gaumarTla, radgan qali, romelTanac gasaubreba gaiara, Zalian gulTbilad Sexvda.
_ bavSvebTan odesme gqoniaT Sexeba?
magaliTad, maTi skolidan gamoyvana, gaseirneba...
_ iciT... me gaTxovili ara var... _
ninim Tavi daxara.
_ bavSvebis movlasTan gaTxoveba
arafer SuaSia, _ gaecina qals, _ mTavaria, giyvardeT isini da cota moindomoT. Tu SeiZleba, SeavseT es anketa
da kviris bolos iqneb raRac gamogiZebnoT an _ ufro adrec. me eTeri
mqvia.
_ sasiamovnoa, qalbatono.
_ aucileblad dagikavSirdebiT.
ukve dRis 4 saaTi iyo. siaruliT
daRlilma da uWmelma laslasiT miaRwia Tavis oTaxamde da is iyo, wamowolas apirebda, rom mobilurma dareka.
ninis guli Seuqanda da akankalebuli
xeliT daswvda telefons.
_ nini, Sen xar? _ amjerad gogonas
winaTgrZnoba gamarTlda: Tornike urekavda. _ giom rom miTxra, sakuTar
yurebs ar davujere... rogor aRmoCndi
TbilisSi?
_ Sen ra, ar gixaria? _ ninis guli
moewura.
_ ras hqvia, ar mixaria... mixaria ki
ara, gonze ar var! _ umtkicebda mamakaci. _ magram imdenad moulodneli iyo
Seni gamoCena!.. megona, winaswar damirekavdi. Cven xom ar SevTanxmebulvarT...
_ vfiqrob, droa, sityvebidan saqmeze
gadavideT. rodis mnaxav? _ xma gaucivda gogonas.
_ albaT ufro... saRamos, _ TiTqos
Seyoymanda Tornike, arcTu ise damajereblad JRerda misi xma. _ sadme
barSi davsxdeT da...
_ barSi? _ gakvirvebiT gaimeora
ninim. _ magram... me SenTan seriozuli
salaparako maqvs, Toko, dros satareblad ar mcalia...
_ hoda, iq vilaparakoT, ra problemaa? _ udardelad Tqva mamakacma da
uceb aCqarda: _ mapatie, magram axla
Zalian dakavebuli var. eqvsis naxevarze
vakis parkis centralur SesasvlelTan
dagxvdebi, kargi?.. aba, Sen ici, manamde
ar moiwyino. axla unda gaviqce, meCqareba. gkocni, sixarulo! _ da sanam gogona raimes ityoda, gaTiSa.
saubarma ninis guneba wauxdina, radgan ufro Tbil miRebas eloda Tornikesgan. magram guli imiT daimSvida, rom
sayvarel mamakacs aucileblad Sexvdeboda, Tan mas sayveduric ar dascdenia
giosTan ninis vizitis gamo.
maSinve moexsna daRliloba. SimSilmac gauara. axla Sin jdoma aRar SeeZlo, amitom CanTas xeli daavlo da gareT gavarda.
fexiT gauyva gzas, Tan waramara ekiTxeboda gamvlelebs, _ rogor da ramden
xanSi mividoda vakis parkTan. ra sircx-
biblusi
romani
vilia! amxela qalma vakis
parki ar icis, sad mdebareobs!.. arc ise Sors yofila, rogorc egona... naxevari saaTis Semdeg adgilze iyo. daTqmul dromde TiTqmis erTi saaTi rCeboda, magram radgan siarulis Tavi aRar hqonda,
parkSi Cavida da pirvelsave merxze Camojda Sefiqrianebuli.
zustad eqvsis naxevarze
misi mobiluri awkrialda.
_ sad xar? _ TiTqos
sayveduri gaisma mamakacis
xmaSi.
_ qvemoT... axlave amoval, _ nini wamodga da
wasasvlelad gaemzada.
_ ara, iyavi, me TviTon
Camoval, _ mamakacs winadadeba damTavrebuli ar hqonda, rom
ninim ukve mohkra Tvali, rogor Camorboda kibeze.
Sexvedra sulac ar aRmoCnda iseTi
romantikuli, rogorsac eloda. Tornikem mxolod loyaze akoca, mere xeli
gadaxvia da qveda gasasvlelisken waiyvana.
_ aqve axlos erTi baria da iq
SevideT.
nini TiTqos damunjda, Tavzardacemuli xmas ar iRebda.
_ ici, rogor momenatre?!. ra lamazi
xar, sixarulo!.. _ rogorc iqna, raRac
Tqva mamakacma da xeli TmaSi Seucura.
_ mec momenatre... _ amoRerRa gogonam. _ amitomac Camovedi.
_ hoda, Zalianac kargi, rom Camoxvedi, _ misi toni uxalisod moeCvena
ninis...
ramdenime aseuli metri gaiares da
wiTlad SeRebil momcro Senobas miadgnen.
_ movediT... mTavaria, bevri xalxi
ar iyos, _ Tqva Tornikem da xis kari
SeaRo. _ auuu! ra ambavia!
patara darbazSi yayanis xma ismoda.
iqauroba sigaretis kvamliT iyo gaJRenTili.
_ ara uSavs, iqiT davsxdeT, fanjarasTan... _ mamakacma marcxena kuTxisken gaiSvira xeli da ninis win gadauswro...
_ aq Semosvla miyvars, kargi ludi
aqvT...
_ ludi?! magram me luds ar vsvam!..
_ Sors daiWira, kopebSekrulma.
_ SenTvis Sav Rvinos SevukveT, magari Camosxmaa, ai, naxav. xom giyvars Savi
Rvino?
_ ho, _ ukmayofilod daaqnia Tavi
ninim da mamakacs Tvali aarida.
_ netav axla marto me da Sen viyoT
aq! me vici, rasac vizamdi... _ Tornikem
vnebiani mzera esrola gogonas.
ninis siTbom dauara sxeulSi, ise
gaabrua Seyvarebulis sityvebma.
sanam Tornike oficiants SekveTas aZlevda, Tvali ar mouSorebia misTvis. mamakacs Cveulebrivze odnav mokled SeekriWa
Tma, rac Zalian uxdeboda. cotaTi momatebuliyo kidec wonaSi.
_ aba, axla momiyevi _ sad xar, visTan
cxovrob da ramden xans apireb TbilisSi darCenas? _ Tornikem mklavebi magidaze Camoawyo, zed daeyrdno da miaCerda.
_ ras niSnavs, ramden xans?! _ kiTxva
ver gaigo gogonam.
_ me mxedvelobaSi maqvs, ramdenime
dRe rCebi Tu ramdenime kvira. xom unda
vicode?
nini gacinebas Seecada.
_ Toko... me sul Camovedi... es ise,
cnobisaTvis. megona, SenTvis es ucxo ar
iqneboda... _ am sityvebze sunTqva Seekra.
_ erToTaxiani bina viqirave da samsaxuris Zebnac daviwye... pativcemulma giom
ar giTxra amis Sesaxeb? _ ironiiT
daamata bolos.
_ ara, gios araferi uTqvams, mxolod is Sematyobina, rom CvenTan iyavi
mosuli da mikiTxe... nin... minda, egreve
gaverkve raRacebSi. Sen yvelaferi miatove baTumSi da aqeT wamoxvedi? sworad gavige? arc ki CaTvale saWirod,
gagefrTxilebine?
gafiTrebulma ninim tuCebTan mitanili Rviniani Wiqa saswrafod magidaze
dadga...
_ megona, gagixardeboda... Cven xom
amaze vocnebobdiT, Torni... ra gWirs?!
_ vocnebobdiT, geTanxmebi da arc
damviwyebia, magram... ara am momentSi, sixarulo. cudi dro SearCie. aman SeiZleba, raRac problemebi Seqmnas.
_ problemebSi gios gulisxmob?
_ imasac... _ Tornikes saxe daejRana. _ kidev kargi, iseTi araferi uTxari, Torem...
_ iseTi araferi?..
rao, ra melaparakao? _
yurebi cqvita am ambiT
gaognebulma.
_ rac Sen uTxari, is
gamimeora: rom Cven Zveli nacnobebi varT da
radgan TbilisSi Camoxvedi, sanaxavad gamomiare.
ra, ase ar uTxari?
msgavsi araferi! gogonas Tvalebi lamis Sublze aucvivda! RmerTo,
ra xdeba?! ra TamaSs TamaSobs es robaqiZe, ram
aTqmevina aseTi ram?! ninim Subli Sekra.
_ simarTle rom
meTqva, ra moxdeboda? _
gogonam mamakacs gamWoli mzera esrola.
_ saSineleba moxdeboda, _ amoixvneSa
Tornikem. _ momismine, sayvarelo. me
cols mSvidad unda gavSorde, ar minda
skandali. kidev kargi, gios araferi
uTxari... Takom Sen Sesaxeb rom gaigos...
Sen mas ar icnob. uamrav xalxs icnobs
da SeuZlia, iseTi ram gamikeTos, samudamod damingrios kariera... gesmis,
raze vlaparakob?
_ mgoni, ki... ese igi, Seni survilia,
Cven kvlav malulad gavagrZeloT Sexvedrebi? _ Camkvdari xmiT ikiTxa gogonam.
_ es didxans ar gagrZeldeba, sixarulo... cotac macale... sanam giosTan
vcxovrob, Cveni erTad yofna gamoricxulia, Zalian frTxilad unda viyoT.
gasagebia? manamde normalur binas movZebni da mere sacxovreblad erTad gadavalT... axla swored amiT var dakavebuli... Tumca advili ar aris. minda,
kargi pirobebi Segiqmna. ho, marTla,
Sen visTan xar aq?
_ Sens saxlTan axlos viqirave, leluka gagigonia?
_ im alqajTan?! _ saxe moeqca Tornikes. _ imasTan rogor moxvdi?
_ giom gamgzavna, roca gaigo, rom
binas veZebdi...
_ erTi damixedeT, ra keTili Zias
roli uTamaSia! _ eqidnurad gaicina
Tornikem. _ rac aris, aris, raRas
vizamT, raxan iq moewyve... magram erTi
garemoeba Zalian SegviSlis xels: me
lelasTan ver gamovCndebi, Torem maSinve CamiSvebs giosTan. rom gagefrTxilebine Camosvlamde, sxvagan giSovidi
rames.
_ sadac kargi pirobebi meqneboda,
ara?.. _ ironiulad SeniSna ninim. _
nu dardob, me Zalian kmayofili var,
araCveulebrivi qalia leluka. vwuxvar,
problemebi rom Segiqmeni. ar megona,
Cemi Camosvla ase Tu SegaSinebda, _
mwared gaicina bolos.
gagrZeleba
Semdeg
nomerSi
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biblusi
dasawyisi _
realuri
`gza~,
#38-41
mari jafariZe
sxva gza ar mqonda _ mamakaci saxlSi SemovipatiJe. Tan isic Zalian mainteresebda, ra saqme hqonda aseTi, Tavs
rom ar manebebda.
_ ara, CemTan unda wavideT. TqvenTan ukacravad, megobrebo, magram uta
unda waviyvano, _ mimarTa Cems zurgs
ukan mdgar vasikosa da lalis.
_ aq SemodiT, ukve mosuli xarT
da barem aq ilaparakeT, _ vasikom
scada, molaparakebaze wasuliyo.
_ samtrod ar var mosuli, megobris daxmareba ar dasWirdeba... _ mixvda aleqsandre, darCenas ratomac
sTavazobda vasiko.
_ miT umetes. Tu samtrod ar xarT,
SigniT SemodiT, _ ar eSveboda vasiko.
stumari mibrunda da usityvod
daeSva kibeze. 2 axmaxi ukan mihyva, orni
ki me melodnen.
_ axlave gamoval, _ vTqvi da Sin
Sevbrundi, _ manamde Tqven SemodiT,
_ mxars zemodan gadavZaxe biWebs.
Semolagdnen. imodenebi iyvnen, oTaxi
lamis gaavses.
_ wyals gadavivleb, namgzavri var,
_ mivugde sityva da saabazanos kari
mivxure. _ lali, samzareuloSi yava
moZebne da mouduRe, _ isev gamovaRe
kari.
moTminebiT melodnen biWebi.
rogorc Cans, miCveuli iyvnen lodins.
tanisamosi gamovicvale, stumrebs
yavis daleva vadrove da Sinidan gamovediT. interesiT vkvdebodi, vin iyo
es vertiukovi da ra undoda Cemgan.
miliciels ar hgavda, arc `Savs~...
Tavis manqanaSi Camsves, Cemi manqaniT
wasvlis ufleba ar momces. aman eWvi
gamiCina da cota SevSfoTdi. cota
xanSi, moskovis centrSi, maRalsarTulian, erTsadarbazoian korpuss mivadeqiT. saerTo sargeblobis liftiT ar avsulvarT. rogorc Cans, calke
hqonda lifti vertiukovis apartamen-
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tebs, radgan kabinaSi mxolod erTi
Rilaki iyo.
bolo sarTulze avediT da
liftidan pirdapir misaRebSi amovyaviT Tavi. warmoudgeneli sididis, komfortulad mowyobili bina iyo. bolo
2 sarTuli hqondaT gaerTianebuli
da patara sasaxled eqciaT. iqaurobas
Tvali rom movavle, gaocebisgan davustvine.
_ mogwons? _ mkiTxa maspinZelma,
romelic verc ki davinaxe, saidan gaCnda; TiTqos iatakidan amoZvrao...
_ magaria. aseTi ram arc ki minaxavs. Senia?
_ ara, Senia!
_ hm, _ Camecina, _ ironia da
sarkazmi SenTvis daitove, _ warbebi
Sevyare.
_ araviTari ironia da sarkazmi,
es yvelaferi _ Senia. axla notariusi
mova da yvelafers oficialurad
gavaformebT.
_ cudad xumrob, vertiukov!.. _
sibrazisgan wamovwiTldi.
_ ar vxumrob da es kidev yvelaferi araa, rac Sens mflobelobaSi
gadmodis...
_ samagierod ras iTxov? _ vici,
rom aseT saCuqars aravin gagikeTebs,
Tu Zalian seriozuli saqme ara aqvs
gasakeTebeli.
_ arafers, _ mipasuxa mSvidad.
_ gamoricxulia.
_ geubnebi _ arafers-meTqi.
_ movidnen, _ oTaxSi dacvis TanamSromelma Semoabija.
_ Zalian kargi.
_ vin movidnen?.. ra gamocanebiT
melaparakebiT, ra xdeba? _ verasdros
vitandi gaugebrobas, yvelaferi `gaiasnebuli~ da gamartivebuli merCivna.
_ axla naxav, _ raRacnairad, keTilad gaiRima maspinZelma.
cota xanSi oTaxSi nica Semovida im
2 kacis TanxlebiT, romelmac me momacila.
daminaxa Tu ara, gamoiqca da Camex-
uta, mere tirili auvarda. karga xans
vefere da vamSvide gogo, magram mec
erTi suli mqonda, avbRavlebuliyavi.
oTaxSi rom mimovixede, aravin iyo.
rogorc Cans, cota xniT dagvtoves.
nica divanze davsvi, gverdiT mivujeqi, misi Tavi mkerdze mivixute.
cremlebs isev misca gza.
_ rodis Camoxvedi? _ vkiTxe,
roca cotaTi dawynarda.
_ guSin Camomiyvanes.
_ kursi mTlianad daasrule?
_ ara, magram mamam damireka da
miTxra, rom unda gamovyolodi im kacebs, romlebic momakiTxavdnen. mec gamovyevi. axla ki Sin momakiTxes da aq
wamomiyvanes.
_ icnob am vertiukovs?
_ vinaa vertiukovi?
_ ar vici, mec ar vici. TiTqos
sadRac minaxavs, magram ver vixseneb...
ra unda, ver gavige.
gogos TvalebSi Cavxede. mis mzeraSi udidesi siyvaruli igrZnoboda, siyvaruli da monatreba...
_ mapatie, kargi? _ miTxra mere.
_ ra unda gapatio?
_ is, rom roca saavadmyofoSi iweqi, im qarTvels vxvdebodi, romelmac
mere momitaca. ara, ar ifiqro, rom
masTan rame mqonda. is Sens megobrad
asaRebda Tavs da Cemze zrunavda. meubneboda, valdebuli var, utas sacoles
pativi vceo...
_ kargi, amaze sxva dros vilaparakoT, _ gavaCume, radgan oTaxSi vertiukovi Semovida.
_ wamodiT, saxls dagaTvalierebinebT, _ win gagviZRva. mivyeviT. qveda sarTulze saZineblebi, misaRebi da
kidev, ramdenime saabazano oTaxi iyo...
zeda sarTulze _ kabineti, ramdenime
saZinebeli, misaRebi da didi darbazi... misaRebidan kidev adioda kibe
zeviT.
_ aq mesame sarTulicaa? _ ikiTxa
nicam.
_ wamodiT, gaCvenebT, _ kibes auyva maspinZeli.
kibe saxuravze adioda, sadac Turme didi auzi yofila, momcro, CaliT
gadaxuruli bariTa da qviSiani plaJiT.
aRfrTovaneba ver davfare.
_ es am saxlSi yvelaze magari adgilia, _ RimiliT Tqva vertiukovma.
nicam gadawyvita, auzisTvis Semoevlo.
_ nica ratom CamoiyvaneT germaniidan? _ vkiTxe, roca marto davrCiT.
_ mas reabilitaciis kursi ara aqvs
dasrulebuli.
_ nicasTan zeg misi germaneli eqimi Camova da reabilitaciis kurss aq
daasrulebs. me vici, rogor genatreboda... me kargad vici, ra aris monatreba... _ iqve, Sezlongze Camojda da
nicas gaxeda. is neli nabijiT miuyve-
realuri
boda auzis napirs.
_ zustad nicas toli Svili myavda. isic aseTi lamazi iyo...
_ axla sad aris? _ sulswrafoba
gamoviCine.
_ axla mkvdaria. is da dedamisi
manqanaSi Cacxriles.
_ es rodis moxda?
_ es am zamTars moxda...
_ gamaxsenda, gazeTebi iyo aWrelebuli maTi fotoebiT...
_ ho, _ Tavi daaqnia.
am dros dacvis biWma Seatyobina,
rom notariusi movida.
_ dabla CavideT, _ wamodga.
_ nica! _ gavZaxe gogonas. _
wavediT!
oriode wuTSi ukve yvelani notariusis pirispir visxediT.
_ bina am mamakacis saxelze unda
gadavaformoT, _ uTxra aleqsandrem.
_ ara, me am sabuTs xels ar movawer, Cven raRacebi gvaqvs gasarkvevi, _
mtkiced vTqvi da fexze wamovdeqi. _
Tu SeiZleba, calke davilaparakoT, _
mivmarTe maspinZels.
_ damijere, aq araferia gasarkvevi.
yvelaferi wesisa da rigis mixedviT
xdeba. arc samagierod viTxov rames.
_ ara, xels ar movawer, _ gavjiutdi.
_ Tu gnebavT, Cuqeba gavaformoT,
maSin am sabuTs misi xelmowera ar
dasWirdeba, _ SesTavaza notariusma.
_ es xels xom ar SeuSlis qonebis
gadaformebaSi?
_ ara, aranairad. CemTan mova da
gadavuformeb.
_ kargi, _ daTanxmda vertiukovi.
TvalebgafarToebuli vuyurebdi,
rogor gadmodioda Cems xelSi es bina,
agaraki, ucxouri, dajavSnili avtomobili da biznesis 80%-iani wili...
notariusma yvela saWiro sabuTi
gaaforma da wavida.
_ axla wamodi, kabinetSi gavideT,
_ aleqsandre win gamiZRva.
barTan mivida, WiqebSi koniaki Camoasxa.
_ Cvens dRevandel `sdelkas~
gaumarjos! _ Tqva da Wiqa odnav
momijaxuna.
_ dRes araviTari garigeba ar momxdara, me Sens saCuqars ar viReb!
_ imedia, biznesis marTvas SeZleb,
_ ise gaagrZela saubari, TiTqos Cemi
naTqvami arc gaugonia.
_ araviTari survili ar maqvs,
biznesi vmarTo: Sen albaT ar ici,
rom me sul sxva cxovrebiT vcxovrob...
_ me yvelaferi vici, absoluturad yvelaferi... isic ki, rom sakuTari
mSoblebis ojaxSi ar gazrdilxar;
isic, rom erT dros qali giyvarda
da swored man dagRupa; isic vici, is
qali axla sadaa, isic, rom SurisZiebis wyurviliT xar Sepyrobili da
gpirdebi, rom Sen magivrad, masze Surs
me viZieb... isic vici, erTxel, zamTris
civ Rames sakuTari agarakidan rom
modiodi da gzaze dagdebuli mamakaci ipove. gegona, manqana daejaxa da
miatova... is kaci saavadmyofoSi miiyvane, miuxedavad imisa, rom Zebnili
iyavi da ar SeSindi, rom misi aseTi
mdgomareoba Sen dagbraldeboda; vici,
rom sakuTari sisxli ramdenjerme
gadausxi, rom eqims Seni telefonis
nomeri dautove, Tu rame gauWirdes,
damirekeT da aq gavCndebio; fulic
Sen gadaixade da daibare, ar idardoT, gadaarCineT da Tu saWiro iqneba,
kidev gadavixdi; imis gamo, rom fuli
ara aqvs da patroni ar hyavs, nu
gawiravTo... am kacis mosakiTxad manamde dadiodi saavadmyofoSi, vidre
ar darwmundi, rom mis sicocxles
safrTxe aRar emuqreboda... Tumca misi
palatis kari erTxelac ar SegiRia...
es yvelaferi vici da kidev, Seni cxov-
biblusi
rebis TiToeuli detali. hoda, axla,
roca Cems ZarRvebSi Seni sisxli
moZraobs, Cven xom TiTqmis Zmebi varT!..
me ki minda, rom Cemma Zmam Zvel cxovrebas Tavi daanebos da axali daiwyos...
_ Sen... Sen is xar?!. _ rogorc
iqna, goneba gaminaTda.
_ ho, is var. magram manqana ki ar
damejaxa... maSin motacebuli viyavi, 3
dRe da Rame mawamebdnen da rom egonaT, movkvdi, gzaze damagdes. swored
im dRes Cacxriles Cemi col-Svili...
Sen rom ara, me iq gaviyinebodi. Wrilobebic sicocxlisTvis saSiSi iyo
da Tu yinvas gadavurCebodi, travmebi
momiRebda bolos... ise gvian iq
aRaravin gaivlida da romc gaevlo
vinmes, ara mgonia, SensaviT Tavi Seewuxebina... me am qalaqSi da am qveyanaSi
cxovreba aRar SemiZlia, sadac gasaqans
ar maZleven da sadac Cemi bedis bor-
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biblusi
realuri
bali ukuRma datrialda. aqedan mivdivar. am yvelafris gayidvas mirCevnia,
Sen daepatrono. oRond, erTi pirobiT _ Zvel cxovrebas unda SeeSva.
_ magas me mgoni, mniSvneloba ara
aqvs. Sen biznesmeni xar, me _ Savi samyaros warmomadgeneli, magram erTnairad gvebrZvian da erTnairad gviteven.
ase ar aris?
_ Cemi saqme sxvaa... me piradi angariSi gamiswores da araviTari biznesinteresebis gadakveTa ar momxdara. me
gaswavli, rogor imuSao. 1 Tve win
gvaqvs. yoveldRe ivli CemTan samsaxurSi; TanamSromlebs gagacnob, saqmeebSi
gaerkvevi.
_ es ase ioli araa. Cemi cxovrebisgan Tavis daRweva ioli araa... Cemi
wilebi unda davTmo... oficialurad
unda gamovacxado, rom qurdobaze
uars vambob. es ki Savi laqa iqneba Cemi
cxovrebisTvis. Tu mag gadawyvetilebas miviReb, maSin nel-nela unda davTmo poziciebi, ase xelaRebiT ver gadavdgam mag nabijs.
_ eg Seni gadasawyvetia. maSin, sando kaci unda daniSno, rom biznesi
akontrolos. gyavs vinme aseTi?
_ ki, mama myavs... Wkviani kacia, Tavisuflad gauZRveba yvelafers. is `piterSi~ cxovrobs, Tavisi biznesi aqvs, magram gayidis da sacxovreblad aq gadmoviyvan. Sen? Sen rom am yvelafers
Tmob, ras apireb?
_ sakmarisi qoneba maqvs da ucxoeTSi biznespartniorebi myvanan; ukve
wilic maqvs erT karg saqmeSi...
_ es yvelaferi manamde ratom ar
miTxari, vidre dokumentebs gaaformebdi?
_ vici Seni xasiaTi _ uars ityodi.
_ mainc xom vTqvi uari.
_ ase CavTvale saWirod. axla ki
gavideT, nica martoa da mixedva unda.
misi eqimi xval Camova da yvelafers
ise daasrulebs, rogorc saWiroa.
_ kidev erTi sakiTxi mainteresebs...
_ vici, melanoze ginda dalaparakeba. misi misamarTi da yvela koordinati maqvs. narkotikebis gasaRebaSi
im faifuris qarxnis direqtorma CaiTria, sadac muSaoba daawyebine. misi
sayvarelia da saqmiani partnioric. ase
rom, mag saqmes me mivxedav.
_ ara, minda, TvalebSi Cavxedo.
bevri ram maqvs saTqmeli... koordinatebi unda momce...
_ kargi, Tanaxma var.
me da aleqsandre erTmaneTs marTlac, ZmebiviT davSordiT. nica Tan
waviyvane da Sin isev dacvis biWebma
mimiyvanes.
vasiko da lali gaocdnen, roca
nicasTan erTad daminaxes. ramdenime
wuTis Semdeg ki gaognebulebi ismendnen im ambavs, romelic bolo saaTebSi
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gadamxda Tavs.
im saRamos Cveni moskovSi dabruneba, nicas Camosvla da vasikosa da lalis SeuRleba restoranSi aRvniSneT.
guli xarobda. Zveli dro maxsendeboda. nica gaxalisda. yvelam movilxineT da Sin gvian davbrundiT.
meore dRes, dilaadrianad, me da
vasiko melanos sanaxavad gaveSureT.
miTiTebul misamarTs male mivageniT.
karga xans vakakuneT karze da zaric
vrekeT, magram aravin gamogvpasuxebia.
simwrisgan kbilebs vaRrWialebdi.
Signidan faCunis xma ismoda, magram
kars ar aRebdnen. rogorc Cans,
saWvritinoze xeli rom gvqonda afarebuli, amis gamo frTxilobdnen.
_ kargi, wavideT. es ki aq, karTan
davtovoT da roca gamovlen, TviTon
naxaven, _ xmamaRla Tqva vasikom da
Tvali Camikra. iseTi scena gaiTamaSa,
TiTqos raRac mivitaneT da karTan
vtovebdiT.
kibeze daveSviT. oriode wuTSi ukan
avbrundiT da kedels avekariT. cota
xnis Semdeg saketi gaCxakunda. vasikom
TaviT maniSna, moemzadeo. rogorc ki
kari odnav gaiRo, erTi naxtomiT veci
da mTeli ZaliT mivaweqi. viRacam Sekivla da binis siRrmisken gaiqca.
davedevne. vasikos nabijebis xmac mesmoda, fexdafex momyveboda. saZinebelSi Sesul qals Tavze davadeqi da baliSis qveSidan iaraRis amoReba ar davacade. sawolze pirqve davagde, xelebi amovugrixe, vasikom ki misive iaraRi aiRo da Tavze daado. qalma winaaRmdegobis gaweva Sewyvita. vasiko momexmara da is gulaRma amovabruneT. melano iyo. Cveuli grZeli Tmis nacvlad,
biWiviT mokled SekreWili varcxniloba hqonda.
qvemodan amomxeda da rom micno,
Tvalebi daxuWa.
sawolze wamovsvi.
_ gamarjoba, _ mTeli ironia da
zizRi Cavaqsove am erT sityvas.
xma ar gamca.
_ mainc dadga Cveni Sexvedris dro,
xedav?
isev dumda.
_ nu xar gaCumebuli. bevr kiTxvaze
mogiwevs pasuxis gacema.
_ mezizRebi... _ kbilebSi ise
gamocra, mivxvdi, simarTles ambobda.
_ mec mezizRebi da swored amitom
mogZebne, rom es giTxra da saflavSi
gagatano Cemi zizRi da siZulvili.
_ CemTvis sulerTia, _ gverdze
gaixeda.
_ CemTvis araa sulerTi... axla miTxari, ratom gadawyvite nicas ganadgureba?
_ mag gogom Seni Tavi wamarTva da
imitom...
_ Cemi Tavi Sen mas mere aRar
gekuTvnoda, rac me aqeT wamovedi da
Sen TbilisSi darCi. es xom icodi.
_ faqtis winaSe damayene, dampalo!..
_ melano, Sen araswori gza airCie:
narkotikebis saqmeSi Tavis Cayofa xumroba araa, _ Wkuis darigebasaviT gamomivida.
_ eg Seni saqme araa.
_ Cemi saqmea sworedac. aq me Camogiyvane da me var pasuxismgebeli Sens
saqcielze. jer _ prostitucia, mere
_ narkotikebiT vaWroba... sulSi gaqvs
bozoba, Seni!..
uecrad ucnauri moZraoba gaakeTa
da majaze kbilebiT damwvda. simwrisgan daviRmuvle. misi tuCis kuTxeebidan Cemma sisxlma gamoJona. amis danaxvaze Wkua gadameketa da meore xeli
saxeSi iseTi ZaliT Semovcxe, rom loginze gulaRma gadavarda. frCxilebiT,
xelebiT, fexebiTa da kbilebiT, Zu mgeliviT mebrZoda. vasiko wamomeSvela
da xelebi gaukava. iqve dadebuli pistoleti aviRe da Sublze mivabjine.
_ Zukna xar! _ gamovceri kbilebSi.
saxeSi SemafurTxa.
sasxletze TiTis daWeras vapirebdi, magram bolo momentSi xeli amikankalda; ver SevZeli.
erTma suraTma gaielva Tvalwin _
me da melano pirvel klasSi, pirvel
seqtembers xelixelCakidebulebi rom
mivdiodiT... iaraRi movaSore da ukanmouxedavad davtove misi bina.
vasiko fexdafex momyveboda. manqanaSi rom Cavjeqi, iaraRi `bardaCokSi~ Cavagde da manqana adgilidan movwyvite.
_ xom giTxari, ver gaimeteb-meTqi?!
_ ar gavimete... me misi gansjis ufleba ar maqvs. RmerTi gansjis. isedac
bevri codva maqvs zurgze mokidebuli da magis damateba aRar iyo saWiro.
_ sinamdvileSi ki saqme sul sxva
rameSia, ara?.. _ CamekiTxa vasiko, magram xma aRar gaveci...
utas dRiuri aq wydeba. misi
Semdgomi cxovrebis Sesaxeb informacia misive axloblebis saSualebiT
movipove.
am ambidan ramdenime Tvis Semdeg
melano manqaniT kldidan gadaCexili
ipoves... ucnobia, vin gausworda ase.
SesaZloa, ubeduri SemTxvevis msxverpladac iqca... uta da nica axal saxlSi
gadavidnen sacxovreblad. utam dedamama TavisTan gadaiyvana, mamas biznesi
Caabara, saqmeebis keTebasa da `sxadniakebze~ siarulze xeli aiRo, magram
qurdis saxeli SeinarCuna... is axlac
ruseTSi cxovrobs, 4 Svilis mamaa,
sakuTar bizness ukve Tavad uZRveba.
aleqsandre vertiukovTan megobruli
urTierToba aqvs _ misi erT-erTi
Svilis naTliacaa...
dasasruli
mari jafariZe
`jadosnur joxs milions vTxovdi... Cven rom viciT, imis asrulebisTvis, maaar... eeeeh, rogor minda
milioniii... bevrs xom ar vTxov, ara? 5, 10, 20 ki ara, 1 milioni, vaaa... SWEET-GIRL~. ar gagikvirdeT, am `mokle
CarTvis~ mesijiT rom daviwye `gzavnilebis~ Sesavali. minda, SWEET GIRL-is ideaze giamboT, Tu raSi sWirdeba
milioni. mas surs, zRvispireTSi, kerZod _ baTumSi, didi saxli aaSenos da daarqvas `mgzavnelebis samoTxe~.
am saxlSi mudmivad mxolod mgzavnelebi iqnebian. zogi iq icxovrebs, zogi stumrad miva, moxucebulobis
Jams ki yvela erTad iq moiyris Tavs da gaixseneben im wlebs, axalgazrda mgzavnelebi rom iyvnen. mgzavnelebs
didi avtobusic eyolebaT, Sesabamisi warweriT da am avtobusiT eqskursiebze ivlian, gemic eyolebaT,
kruizisTvis (Tumca, amas milioni ar eyofa) da yvelanairi komfortic eqnebaT Seqmnili. mokled, RmerTma
usminos SWEET-s da misces milioni. imedia, pirobas ar daiviwyebs. axla ki Tqveni mesijebi.
gaumxeleli siyvarulis
msxverpli
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gzavnilebi
mokle CarTva
ras vizamdi,
jadosnuri joxi
rom mqondes?
daviqnevdi jadosnur joxs
da putinsa da medvedevs gavaqrobdi. kidev, gavaCendi bevr
fuls da nino burjanaZes gavugzavnidi, agaraki rom daebrunebina. gruzinka.
jadosnuri
joxi
rom
mqondes, xelis erTi aqneviT mTel
qveyanas umdidresad vaqcevdi,
maTxovrebi aRar iarsebebdnen da
absoluturad yvelas, keTilmowyobili sacxovrebeli eqneboda.
TiTqos banalurad JRers, magram daukvirdiT, ramxela bedniereba iqneboda. qveynad sul
Rimili, sikeTe da siTbo iarsebebda!.. bambuCa.
ara, ra... mainc ar minda
jadosnuri
joxi,
mere
iseT
rameebs movindomeb... ubralod,
ufals vTxov, deda mimyofos
janmrTeli. au, moica, mainc minda _ kosmosSi gavidodi 1
kviriT mainc da kidev, ramdenime adamians Zalian mmmagrad
vcemdi, magram maTi sikvdili
mainc ar minda. ha, ras ityvi,
mar, momcem joxs? genacvale
Sen, rogor vimxiarule, am SMSis weris dros... sarvieta.
vici, rom ar meqneba, magram imdeni survili maqvs, mgoni, TviTonac ar moindomebda
CemTan yofnas. mwvaneTvaleba angelozi.
mdaa, sainteresoa... ras vizamdi mag SemTxvevaSi da... Cemi
sawolis gadasafarebels xuTi
mmagari biWi rom axatia, ai, maT
gavacocxlebdiii! mxolod CeemTvis!
me da _ isini! Zmebi, ra! luna.
netav, marTla mqondes jadosnuri joxi, ise mtkiva fexi,
pirvel rigSi, fexze davirtyamdi
da male gamojanmrTelebas visurvebdi, Semdeg Cems sayvarel
quTaisSi miviqnev-moviqnevdi da or
wuTSi davasrulebdi samSeneblo
samuSaoebs. daviRale am `iamkebze~
xtomialiT. :) Sokolada.
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erTi nabiji
bednierebamde
`biWi wynari, sevdiani nabijebiT miuyveboda viwro orRobes.
mTvareuliviT win iyureboda
mxolod, gafiTrebuli... TiTqos
iyo da arc iyo amqveynad... Tovda. gulwasuli dedofaliviT
efineboda fantelebi miwas. cioda, is ki verafers grZnobda.
sadRac RamenaTevi mamlebi yiodnen... orRobeSi, erTgan, uSvelebeli mura ZaRli gamouxta,
zarmaci RreniT. adre iqneb
SeSineboda kidec misi, axla ki
mware Rimili esrola mxolod
da gulgrilad gauara. mxolod
erTi kiTxva utrialebda TavSi:
ratom ver SeZlo, raime eTqva,
iqneb yvelaferi Seecvala, Tundac erT sityvas? Tovda gadauReblad. orRobis boloSi tyvianakraviviT gaSeSda da erT adgils mieyina... sevdiani TvalebiT
gaxeda daTovlil Sesaxvevs. im
SesaxvevTan, pawia WiSkris miRma
mdgomi, kopwia saxlidan misi
bedniereba iwyeboda da mTavrdeboda kidec. fiqrebma gaitaca.
biWi 16 wlis iyo, gogona _ 15is. biWi bebiasTan isvenebda,
gogo stumrad iyo Casuli. erT
dRes igrZno, rom suli auforiaqda, mere ki saerTod dakarga mosveneba. eSinoda sakuTari
Tavis, grZnobebis, imis, rom iqneb
azric ar hqonda am yvelafers.
mixvda, rom uyvarda usazRvrod
da mTeli arsebiT. im zamTars
bevri uZilo Rame gaTenda TeTrad. ramdenjer gadawyvita, yvelaferi eTqva, magram Sexedavda
Tu ara, azri efanteboda. Tumca, imiTac bednieri iyo, rom
mis gverdiT xalisian dReebs
atarebda. erT dRes, Tavzardamcemi ambavi gaigo _ kidev erT
biWs hyvarebia anuki. isic stumrad iyo, mamidasTan. uTxra, rom
uyvarda, magram gogom rom gaigo, gaubrazda da eCxuba. am faqtma da imis SiSma, rom sakuTari
grZnobis gamxeliT sul ar
dauvarcxneli Wkua sisulelis
parikad gamoiyureba
daekarga, kidev ufro Caketa sakuTar TavSi. mere ki is moxda,
rasac ar eloda. erT dRes giam
anuki moitaca da samudamod
dautova auxdeneli ocnebebi. 2
wlis Semdeg SemTxveviT qalaqSi
Sexvdnen erTmaneTs da mixvda,
rom isev usazRvrod uyvarda.
sevdiani Tvalebi hqonda gogonas. gulSi Caikra, aTrTolebulma. mere gaiseirnes. gulma veRar gauZlo da amoxeTqa, niaRvariviT wamovida grZnoba. im
dRes bevri isaubres. biWma
uTxra, rom uyvarda. gogoc gamoutyda, rom masac uyvarda da maSin mixvda, rom daigviana. sul
raRac erTi nabijiT CamorCa
bednierebas. mas Semdeg bevri
dro gavida, wlebma Tavisi
gaitana da nel-nela mtvriT
daifara mogonebebi. ukve daviviwye. axla mxolod warsuli hqvia
am yvelafers... Soreuli warsuli... Tumca, xandaxan, roca Cemi
cxovrebis ganvlil wlebs gadavfurclav gonebaSi da gulis
romeliRac, miyruebul kunWulSi mtkivneulad wydeba TiTo
Zafi. netav, ra moxdeboda, maSin
yvelaferi rom meTqva? eh... vin
icis... vin icis... maestro~.
megobrobis xaTriT
dakarguli siyvaruli
`nikam da levanma universitetSi gaicnes erTmaneTi. maleve
gamonaxes saerTo ena da ganuyrel
Zmakacebad iqcnen. yvelgan erTad dadiodnen. levani amayobda, Zma vipove, nikas saxiTo.
ramdenjerme iyo nika levanTan
saxlSi, magram mxolod mSoblebi xvdebodnen. arada, icoda, dac
hyavda da levans mis gacnobas
sTxovda. etyoda xolme, Seni da
Cemi dac iqnebao. Tumca, roca
gaicno, inana, radgan TavdaviwyebiT Seuyvarda Tiko. didxans
itanjeboda imis gamo, rom ar
gzavnilebi
SeeZlo, grZnobebi gaemxila. veRarc levans uyurebda TvalebSi. xandaxan imasac fiqrobda,
xom ar sjobs, saerTod gadavikargo samSoblodano?! mogvianebiT asec moiqca, adga da wavida. arada, is xom Tikosac uyvarda... biWis grZnobebsac xvdeboda da isic icoda, rom am
siyvaruls levani ar apatiebda,
magram uyvarda da ra eqna? Tumca, wlebi gavida, Tikom ojaxi
Seqmna, nikam _ ara an _ vera.
is ki vici, rom nikas da levans
dResac samagaliTo megobroba
aqvT. P.S. mar, am bolo dros
aRar mwyalob... :( feSena~.
xuTni
`dawyebiT klasebSi~ sakmaod
popularuli viyavi, yvelaze kargad vswavlobdi da Turme, erTdroulad 5 klasels Sevyvarebivar. TiToeuli cdilobda,
axlos yofiliyo CemTan, gverdiT momjdomoda... me ki verafers
vxvdebodi. mere sxva skolaSi
gadavedi, Zvel klaselebs xSirad vnaxulobdi ubanSi, sakmaod
kontaqturi var da Zalian mwyinda, rom xuTeulidan mxolod
erTi mesalmeboda, danarCenebi
ki Tvals maridebdnen. Semdeg
saerTo nacnobisgan gavige, erTerTs uTqvams, saukeTeso megobrebma magis gamo, bavSvobaSi
erTmaneTs Tav-piri davaleweT;
gvgonia, icis, gaecineba da
TvalebSi ver vuyurebTo. bolo
wels, im xuTeulidan erTi Cems
axal klasSi gadmovida da
yovelTvis amayad acxadebda, es
Cemi pirveli siyvarulia da rom
viCxube, sulac ar vnanob, amdeni weli gavida da ar mrcxvenia
amis aRiarebiso. Cven axla kargi megobrebi varT, arc danarCenebis aRiarebiT Seicvleboda
rame Tavis droze, magram... saerTod, jobia, saTqmeli yovelTvis
bolomde iTqvas, rom mere gaSvebuli Sansebis sadRegrZelos
daleva ar mogviwios. svanis asuli~.
axdenili ocneba
`pirveli da erTaderTi siyvaruli bavSvobaSi, 12 wlis asakSi mewvia. is Cems klasSi im wels
gadmovida. Tavidan erTmaneTs
TiTqos `mtrad~ movekideT, erTmaneTs ver vitandiT da gamudmebiT vCxubobdiT, magram vgrZnobdi, rom es mtroba ki ara, raRac
sxva iyo, ufro didi da Tbili.
male radikalurad Seicvala Cveni
urTierToba, ufro `daTba~. verafriT vixseneb, ra iyo Cveni
saubris Tema, magram mTavari isaa,
rom erTad viyaviT da vlaparakobdiT. saswavlo wlis dasrulebisas, dadianebis sasaxleSi
wavediT eqskursiaze. samwuxarod,
is ar wamovida. maxsovs, raRac
xeivani iyo. iq gviTxres, Tu am
xeivanSi TvaldaxuWuli samjer
ise gaivli, rom arafers Seexebi, rasac Caifiqreb, agixdebao
da... vcade... yvela cdilobda,
moepovebina survilis asruleba
da mxolod me SevZeli. Zneli
misaxvedri araa, ra Cavifiqre.
ar gjeraT? me maleve davijere
da dResac mjera. ratom? gaigebT,
sul cota moTmineba iqonieT,
oRondac. im saRamos gavige, rom
mas movwondi da ubednieresi
viyavi. esec nawilobrivi asruleba Cemi survilis. im zafxuls
xSirad vkontaqtobdiT telefoniT. mivxvdi, rom miyvarda da
amaSi kidev ufro davrwmundi,
roca skola daiwyo da 3-Tviani
ganSorebis Semdeg kvlav vnaxe.
Zalian bednieri viyavi, rom
vuyurebdi, yoveldRe sunTqvaSekruli velodi, rodis gaiReboda
kari da Semovidoda. is dRe
CemTvis dakarguli iyo, Tu ver
vnaxavdi. miTxra, miyvarxaro. amas
arc sxvebTan malavda, magram me
ar vaRiarebdi, rom miyvarda da
dResac vnanob amas. Cemma siji-
Wkuidan SeSla ufro advilia,
Tu goni mometebuli gaqvs
utem da dumilma damakargvina.
erT dResac mohbezrda, adga da
wavida. sxva skolaSi gadavida,
naxevar welSi ki saerTod wavida qalaqidan. saSinlad mtkioda
guli, mindoda, sakuTari Tavi
damerwmunebina, rom ar miyvarda. Cems Tavs vsayvedurobdi, rom
misi dakargva Cemi brali iyo. 3
wlis ganmavlobaSi saerTod
aranairi urTierToba aRar gvqonda. mas axali Seyvarebuli hyavda da Zalian bednierad grZnobda Tavs. mec moveSvi masze fiqrs,
rom isev dabrundeboda Zveli
dro... an ki ra ufleba mqonda,
amaze meocneba? me xom `is~ Cemi
sisulelis gamo davkarge! meere?
mere ase gavida 3 weli. zogjer
skolaSi modioda xolme, erTmaneTs ise gavuvlidiT, TiTqos arc
ki vicnobdiT da arafrad vagdebdiT, magram aqve unda vaRiaro,
rom Cumad sul vuyurebdi.
winaswar vicodi, rodis movidoda, sizmarSi vnaxulobdi. sul
vfiqrobdi warsulze, vcdilobdi, warmomedgina, rogor iqneboda yvelaferi, me rom sxvanairad movqceuliyavi, magram mere
moveSvi fiqrs da ocnebas... dRes?
dRes Cven isev erTad varT, RmerTis wyalobiT. es saswaulia
da sxva dros mogiyvebiT am ambavs. es xom ukve sxva Temaa. RmerTma isev Segvaxvedra erTmaneTs. ukve mjera, rom ocnebebi
xdeba. is ocnebebic, romelze
fiqric arasdros gagvibedavs.
minda, viyviro, rom miyvars!
Zalian, Zalian miyvars! SKY~.
sinanuli
`Cems megobars Zalian uyvars
erTi biWi. am zafxuls yvelani
erTad dasasveneblad wavediT.
erT saRamos davTveriT. imdenad iSviaTad vsvam, rom sasmelma
cudad gamxada. im biWma gonze
mosasvlelad gareT gamiyvana, Ramis 1-el saaTze. Cemi gaTiSuli
goneba ver mixvda mosalodnel
safrTxes da rodesac im biWma
nel-nela alersi Semapara da
mere giJiviT kocnaoba gamimarTa, odnavi winaaRmdegobac ki
ver gavuwie. aRar movyvebi, ramxela ambebi mohyva amas Cemi megobris mxridan. miuxedavad imisa, rom Cemma megobarma gamigo,
mapatia da isev Zveleburad varT,
me mainc ver vpatiob sakuTar
Tavs! mere ra, rom mTvrali
viyavi?! bambuCa~.
gza #42 15.10.2009
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gzavnilebi
jvars daiweren...
mokle CarTva
ras vizamdi,
jadosnuri joxi
rom mqondes?
 86
jer momca jadosnuri
da... Zalian bevr sikeTes
keTebdi. hoda, amitomac ar
da arc meqneba odesme.
asuli.
joxi
gavamaqvs
svanis
jadosnuri joxi rom mqondes,
simaRles movimatebdi da Cems
sixaruls amayad davudgebodi gverdiT. lii.
pirvel rigSi, bednierebas
vTxovdi, mere qveyanas avaRorZinebdi, mere msoflios, mere Cvens
axloblebsa da naTesavebs da...
viqnebodi bednieri... marwyvis gogo.
jadosnuri joxi rom mqondes,
bevr karg saqmes gavakeTebdi, Cumad
da uxmaurod. bevr biurokrat
da cxovrebisgan gazuluqebul
adamians Zils davufrTxobdi.
olegario.
jadosnuri joxi rom mqondes,
uklebliv yvela mgzavnels, marisa
da likas... aq, Cems uuulamazes
sofelSi davpatiJebdi. mdinaris
piras, CanCqerTan gavSlidi sufras da didxans, Zalian didxans
visiamovnebdi TqvenTan yofniT... eh,
am yovelives asruleba ar uweria
da viocnebo mainc... CRAZY GIRL.
Cems sicocxles TbilisSi
gadmoviyvandi sacxovreblad. au,
ra magari iqnebodaaaa?! eeh, WriW,
iocnebe, iocnebe... WriWina.
jadosnuri joxi rom mqondes,
saqarTveloSi, msoflioSi ulamazesi
xalxi ivlida, saqarTvelo aucileblad nikofsiidan darubandamdis iqneboda, Sveicariuli politika gveqneboda da mere CemTvisac
erT kadilaks gavCiTavdi. sanam
ar damibeWdavT, ar mogeSvebiT,
icode. :) aTareksia.
jadosnur joxs pinoqios
Cavukakunebdi TavSi da azrze
moviyvandi. albaT Tqven ver mixvdiT, ra minda, magram pinoqio
rom waikiTxavs, mixvdeba. mware.
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#42 15.10.2009
gza
`rogori mogonebebi amiSala
Temam, Tqven ra iciT?! 4 weli
erTad viyaviT me da `is~. pirveli siyvaruli iyo, pirveli sixaruli... is yovelTvis meubneboda _ `miyvarxar~... me ki Tavs
vikavebdi amis Tqmisgan. vpasuxobdi _ `mec~ an rame sxvas. xanac,
gavinabebodi da Cavexutebodi
xolme... Zalian bevri ram gamoviareT erTad. me mxolod erTxel vuTxari, miyvarxar-meTqi...
magram gviani aRmoCnda, Zalian
gviani... mere damSorda, raRac
binZuri tyuilis gamo, romelic Cemze uTxres. erTi kvirac
ar iyo gasuli, ukve axali Seyvarebuli hyavda. yvelafers sakuTar Tavs vabraleb. ra iqneboda, misTvis ufro xSirad meTqva, rom miyvarda? iqneb, yvelaferi sxvanairad yofiliyo?..
iqneb, ufro darwmunebuliyo Cems
siyvarulSi. ar vici, ramdenad
marTali var, magram me Tavs
gaumxeleli grZnobis msxverplad
miviCnev. P.S. im gogos muceli
daumrgvalda... albaT am kviraSi jvars daiweren, me ki maT
jvrisweraze momiwevs yofna...
patara mavne~.
sxvisi siyvarulis
mfarveli
`roca naTiam luka gaicno, ukve
saqmro hyavda, magram lukas mainc
Seuyvarda. uyvarda Cumad,
TavisTvis da uimedod, radgan
xedavda, rom gogona megobrad
miiCnevda, Tavis siyvarulzec
gulRiad uyveboda da zogjer
xumrobiT, biZiasac eZaxda. sxva
gza ar hqonda lukas, vaJkacurad
itanda patara gogonas xumrobas
da TvalebSi Sehyurebda Tavis
qalRmerTs (ase uwodebda), raTa
misi survilebi amoecno da gaexarebina. erTxel, Seyvarebulebma
ikamaTes da gaibutnen. luka sufrasTan ijda, roca naTiam es
Wkua, Tu SeiZleba, ase iTqvas,
iq iwyeba, sadac saRi
azrovneba mTavrdeba
ambavi miswera da isic Rvinos
mieZala. nasvamma ki gadawyvita,
gogosTvis siyvaruli aexsna.
daureka da 1-saaTiani Sesavlis
Semdeg uTxra, rom uyvarda da
aRar SeeZlo megobrobanas TamaSi. ar vici, naTia sxva situaciaSi rogor moiqceoda, magram
maSin lukas sityvebi Ralatad
CaTvala. bevrjer scada dalaparakeba biWma, magram naTiam
axlos ar gaikara. luka iZulebuli gaxda, gzaSi daxvedroda
da ise aexsna yvelaferi. brZolas ar apirebda, radgan miaCnda, rom gogona masze ukeTess
imsaxurebda da isev megobrobis
xeli gauwoda. naTia Seurigda,
radgan ukve aRar SeeZlo mis
gareSe. luka ki dRemde mfarvelobs mis siyvaruls. bevrjer ixsna wyvili daSorebisgan da
amaod arwmunebs naTias, qalebSi siaruls ar viklebo. gogo
axlac grZnobs, erTaderTxel
gamxelili grZnobis naperwkals.
pariJanka~.
gulnatkeni
`wlebis win, rodesac ded-mama
axalgazrdebi iyvnen da Zalian
uyvardaT erTmaneTi, Svilis
yolas ar Cqarobdnen. deda mainc
dafexmZimda da bavSvis moSoreba gadawyvita. eqimma auxsna, Tu
pirvel Svils moiSoreb, SeiZleba, veRar dafexmZimdeo. ase
movevline qveyanas, magram radganac dedaCemi studenti iyo,
bebias misca Cemi Tavi gasazrdelad. upatronod vizrdebodi
bebosTan, mSoblebs mxolod SabaT-kviras vaxsendebodi. gadahyvnen swavlas, mere _ karieras.
mTeli am wlebis manZilze naTesavebi me mabralebdnen, Sen ar
acade Sens mSoblebs cxovreba
da imitom migagdes da umadurad, ZaRliviT gaizardeo. maTi
naTqvamis ar mjeroda, magram,
gzavnilebi
rodesac gavizarde, mivxvdi, rom
naTesavebi simarTles ambobdnen,
radgan arc dedas da arc mamas
arasodes tkbili sityva ar uTqvamT CemTvis. nuTu ver grZnobdnen, rom me Zvirfasi saTamaSo
da Casacmeli ki ara, mSoblebis
yuradReba, Caxuteba da mofereba ufro gamaxarebda. bavSvobaSi yovelTvis mSurda Tanatolebis, roca isini mSoblebis siTboze laparakobdnen. mec vnatrobdi, netav, deda male Camovides da wamiyvanos saseirnodmeTqi. axla ki, rodesac gaiges,
rom avad var da Tanac _ seriozulad, Tavs damtrialeben, civ
niavs ar makareben, me ki imdenad
var gaborotebuli, rom ar
mjera Cemi mSoblebis siyvarulis da rogorc me matkines guli,
axla mec ise veqcevi. Tumca,
gulSi msiamovnebs Cemi mSoblebis
gadametebuli yuradReba. yvelaze metad ki is momenti momwons, roca Tavs movimZinareb,
deda Camomijdeba, Sublze mkocnis da tkbil da gemriel sityvebs meCurCuleba. vcdilob,
maT vapatio yvelaferi~.
SurisZieba
`mzia da misi qmari, kote,
bednierad cxovrobdnen, sanam maT
korpusSi, qveda sarTulze eka
ar gadmovida (katasTan erTad).
eka msubuqi yofaqcevis qali iyo.
kote moewona, Tvalebis paWuni
dauwyo. kacs meti ra unda da...
mosaxdeni moxda. es ambavi Worikana mezoblebma aitaces. sul
male ki mziamac gaigo. Tma gaiwewa, loyebi Camoixoka da
SurisZieba gadawyvita. ekas kata
daiWira, CamoaxrCo da sxvisi
qmris mimTvisebels fanjridan
Seugdo. daujerebelia, magram
faqtia. erTi kiTxva mawuxebs:
katam ra dauSava, im ubedurma,
an amiT ras miaRwia? ra vici,
ra vici... ra aRar xdeba amqveynad?! italianka~.
Temaze da Temis gareSe
mosuli mokle mesijebi
`albaT Rirsi var martoobis
an Ralatis, ase Zalian miyvarda
da vumalavdi~... erTmaneTi gviyvarda, magram Cemebma dagvaSores.
orjer SevrigdiT da bolos
mainc davSordiT. mesamed aRar
davubrundi. cudia, roca siamayes siyvarulze didi Zala aqvs.
axla Cemi siamayis gamo vzivar
da warsuls mivtiri. ani~.
`me erTi lamazi da usayvarlesi gogo miyvars, romelsac lana
hqvia. mis gareSe cxovreba warmoudgenlad mimaCnia. lanas
mSoblebma rom gaiges, dauSales
CemTan urTierToba. Zalian cudad viyavi amis gamo, megona,
davkargavdi. telefonic waarTves da saxlSi Caketes. ise cudad viyavi, verc aRvwer, magram
axla erTad da bednierad varT,
Cveni siyvaruliT. is Cems sicocxles mirCevnia. m.u.d.o~.
`me levani var, axalcixidan.
msxverpli var da Tanac _
rogori?! minda, gavando, magram
gaTxovilia da esaa mizezi, rom
mas verasdros ver gamovutydebi. am grZnobas saflavSi Cavitan. siyvaruli lamazi grZnobaa,
romelic adamians amunjebs~.
`sevdian ambavs mogiyvebiT: 14
wlis viyavi, roca Zalian simpaTiuri biWi gavicani da Semiyvarda, Tan _ Zalian. ase daiwyo
Cemi tragikuli siyvarulis ambavi. ukve 5 welia, misi siyvaruli mabednierebs. amavdroulad,
gaumxeleli grZnobis msxverpli
var, radgan colic hyavs da male
meore angelozic eyoleba. minda
vuTxra: daviT, yovelTvis meyvarebi. odesme Cemi cxovrebac
gaferaddeba. madlobeli var,
siyvarulisTvis. mxatvari~.
jadosnuri joxi? eh, sur-
Tu codna _ Zalaa, maSin
silamaze zeZlierebaa.
vilebs ra gamolevs, pirvel
rigSi, Cemi Ripucas guls davipyrobdi. hooda, mere Tqven gaCuqebdiT jadosnur joxs, aba, marto me viyo bednieri? pirvelad
gwerT, magram Soridan gicnobT
da Zalian miyvarxarT. miskaka.
`garigebaze mogiyvebiT, raa...
:) hoda, ra xdeba: 20 wlis, axlad gafurCqnil qaliSvils
mirigeben 33 wlis, melot biZias. mec davfacurdi da yvela
`paklos~ vauwye, vTxovdebi-meTqi da dafacureba unda naxoT,
Tavs rogor mawoneben. aqamde sad
iyaviT, bavSveboo? dubliori~.
`Cems sayvarel ZaRls uzomod
Seuyvarda Cemi kata. kudis qiciniT dasdevda ukan, magram kata
namdvili kaparCxana aRmoCnda da
axlosac ar gaikara, gaumxeleli grZnobiT gulCaTuTquli
ZaRli. mura cdilobda, dialogze daeyoliebina jiuti kata,
magram ar usmenda. erTxel kata
saseirnod wavida, gzad mezoblis ZaRli gamouvarda da SesaWmelad gaekida. muram es ver
aitana da mezoblis urCi ZaRli
`duelSi gamoiwvia~. am grZnobis msxverpli mura iyo, romelmac katis gadasarCenad sicocxle gaswira. aha, amaze didi msxverpli raRa gindaT? amas bevri
`orfexa ZaRli~ ar gaakeTebda.
WriWina~.
`me axali var. Cemi uaxloesi
megobari biWi Semiyvarda. erTmaneTs arafers vumalavdiT. erTxel gamimxila, rom Turme Cemi
da uyvarda. Zalian cudad gavxdi. ar movelodi... vcade, dameviwyebina da SevZeli. mas Semdeg 2
weli gavida da iciT, ra moxda?
im biWma siyvaruli amixsna, magram uari vuTxari, imitom, rom
Seyvarebuli myavs da Zalianac
miyvars. gkocniT yvelas. miyvarxarT. salo~.
`gzavnilebis~ momdevno
Temad gTavazobT _
`iRbliani SemTxveva~.
gamogzavneT mesijebi
telefonis nomerze:
8.77.45.68.61 an momwereT
elfostaze:
marorita77@yahoo.com
rac
Seexeba `mokle CarTvas~,
amjerad unda daasruloT
fraza: `zarmac patarZals
Rrubliani dRe ...~
gza #42 15.10.2009
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gzavnilebi
yvela erTisaTvis
`Cemi 16 wlis da 40 wlis
kacs gahyva colad~
`ram gagagiJaT am asakovan mamakacebze?~
`gzis~ #41-Si daibeWda 18 wlis ninis mesiji, romelsac 32
wlis ucolSvilo kaci Seuyvarda. `saqme isaa, rom Seyvarebulis
asakis gamo ojaxSi problemebi Semeqmna da aRar vici, rogor
moviqce~, _ gvwers nini, romelsac imedia, mis saxelze mosuli
mesijebi gadawyvetilebis miRebaSi daexmareba.
lika qajaia
giorgi, kaxeTidan:
`marTalia, amboben, _ siyvarulma asaki
ar iciso, magram Cemi azriT, masze aRar
unda ifiqro, ar Segefereba. ise, ram
gagagiJaT am asakovan mamakacebze? ecade,
SedarebiT patara biWi Seiyvaro~.
qis
19:
`mec Sens dReSi var. Cemi Seyvarebuli
Cemze 20 wliT ufrosia, magram amas ra
mniSvneloba aqvs? me is miyvars da sxvebi
ras ifiqreben, saerTod ar manaRvlebs...~
ikuSkebi:
`mec ar gamixardeboda Cems Svils
asakiT Seuferebeli, 14 wliT ufrosi
kaci rom Sehyvareboda. Tumca, ra Tqma
unda, saqme sagangaSod ar aris. Tu erTmaneTi gulwrfelad giyvarT, ratomac
ara, iyaviT bednierebi, magram vidre
seriozul nabijs gadadgam, kargad unda
dafiqrde. Cemo kargo, gaTxovebas nu
iCqareb... Sen arafers gvwer mis Sendami
damokidebulebaze. ratom, sayvarelo?
iqneb, mas ar uyvarxar da seriozulad
ar aRgiqvams?.. sruli pasuxismgeblobiT geubnebi: es moCvenebiTi siyvarulia
da male gaqreba. Senze cotaTi ufrosi
var, magram am cxovrebas gemo kargad
gavuge. merwmune, namdvili siyvaruli male
mova, dagetakeba da gadagrevs~.
mariami:
`arc ise didi asakobrivi sxvaobaa.
Cemi 20 wlis daikoc 32 wlis biWs gahyva
colad da Zalian bednierebi arian. mTavaria, kargi adamiani iyos. asaki? _
mere ra!..~
WriWina:
`Cemi axlobelic 14 wliT ufross
gahyva colad. mSoblebs uxarodaT, _
Camoyalibebuli kaci iqneba da Cvens Svils
arafers gauWirvebso, magram ramdenime
TveSi darwmundnen, rom is uyuradRebo
da upasuxismgeblo mama, meuRle da siZea...
da kidev, Cemma nacnobma moiyvana Tavisive
toli, 18 wlis gogona, magram 2 weliwadSi ojaxi daengraT _ biWis usaqmurobis gamo. daskvna: mTavaria, adamiani kacad vargodes da asaks ra mniSvneloba
aqvs?.. Cemo Zvirfaso, Seni rCeuli
mSoblebs gaacani. nu daSordebi mxolod
imitom, rom Senze ufrosia~.
mogatyueb. vin var, rom gangsajo, magram
rogorc sakuTar das, ise girCev: gaixedgamoixede, xalxs kargad daakvirdi,
gaerTe (cuds arafers vgulisxmob) da
mixvdebi, rom es siyvaruli ki ara, gatacebaa. aba, dafiqrdi, 10 wlis mere beber
qmarTan erTad siaruli gesiamovneba?
damijere, ojaxis wevrebs SenTvis mxolod sikeTe undaT!~
gruzinka:
`Tu mis siyvarulSi darwmunebuli
xar, ibrZole, ar danebde. ojaxs auxseni, rom mxolod masTan iqnebi bednieri.
ecade, damajerebeli iyo. warmatebebi!~
luna:
`Seni mesmis, magram mSoblebsac unda
gaugo. maTTvis rTuli iqneba imasTan
Segueba, rom 18 wlis gogo 32 wlis kacs
gahyve colad. axlaxan Cemma biZaSvilma
Seityo, rom 30 wlis kacs vuyvarvar da
ici, ra Tqva? _ rad minda ojaxSi Cemxela siZe Semomivideso?.. im SemTxvevaSi,
Tu erTmaneTi marTla uzomod giyvarT,
misTvis ibrZole. mTavaria, namdvilad
uyvarde, sxvas yvelafers moevleba~.
ani:
`kargad dafiqrdi, masTan yofna namdvilad ginda Tu es gatacebaa? Cems das,
romelic 15 wlisaa, 12 wliT ufrosi
`love~ hyavs da yvelas mosazreba `hkidia~. mTavaria, Sen iyo bednieri :))~.
morCila:
`dro, asaki da manZili did grZnobasTan uZluria. siyvaruli, garkveulwilad,
riskia. Tu erTmaneTi namdvilad giyvarT,
veravin da veraferi dagaSorebT!~
feSena:
`SeiZleba, axla ggonia, rom giyvars,
magram gava wlebi da roca Sen jer
kidev axalgazrda, sicocxliT savse iqnebi, gverdiT ki asakovani, sxvanairad
moazrovne kaci geyoleba, mixvdebi, rom
odesRac araswori nabiji gadadgi~.
Sokolada:
`asakis garda, Sens rCeuls kidev ra
aqvs iseTi, rasac ar gvimxel da Seni
mSoblebi uwuneben? piradad me, 21 wlis
var da vici, am asakis kacs ver gavugeb.
erTs isic ki vuTxari, mamad Semeferebi-meTqi. ase rom, Seni mSoblebis mesmis, magram Tu sakuTar siyvarulSi darwmunebuli xar da problema mxolod
mis asakSia, bednierebisTvis ibrZole!~
matitela:
`kargad dafiqrdi, Rirs ki im kacis
siyvaruli axloblebis gulis tkenad?
erT ambavs mogiyvebi da iqneb, raimeSi
dagexmaros. Cemi 16 wlis da, miuxedavad
Cveni winaaRmdegobisa, 40 wlis kacs gahyva
colad. siZesTan urTierToba gamifuWda
da axla, sakuTari da tirilamde menatreba.
modi, Seni ojaxis wevrebis adgilas warmoidgine Tavi. RmerTi gfaravdes mudam.
Seni momavliT davinteresdi~.
damavoi:
`sainteresoa, ojaxSi problemebi ratom
Segeqmna? Tu Tqveni urTierTobis winaaRmdegi mxolod asakis gamo arian, erTmaneTi
ar dakargoT. siyvarulma asaki ar iciso,
araooo! magram mainc, girCev, dedas daelaparako, is cuds arasdros gisurvebs!~
virtualur sayvarelze
gacvlili ojaxi da megobari
damavoi:
`lik, Tqveni daxmareba mWirdeba. erT gogos veraferi Sevagnebine da iqneb,
Tqven mainc daexmaroT. nata 26 wlisaa. gaTxovilia da 2 wlis lukac hyavs.
mis qmarsac vicnob _ Zalian kargi adamiania da rac mTavaria, coli Zalian
uyvars. 2 Tvis win natam `jeo-CatSi~ viRac laSa gaicno, romelic dRemde ar
unaxavs. amas winaT gamimxila: qmari mombezrda da gadavwyvite, laSasTan
wavideo. gakvirveba rom SemamCnia, dasZina: ho, laSam miTxra, saxls giyidi da
iq gacxovrebo. gacofebulma lamis, TmiT viTrie. vuTxari, rom sulelurad
iqceoda. mivaxale: laSa pataraa da Sen da Seni Svili mas sulac ar adardebT.
es saqcieli sananebeli gagixdeba _ qmarsac dakargav, laSasac da rac mTavaria, Svilsac-meTqi. miuxedavad amdeni Cxubisa da rCeva-darigebisa, veraferi gavagebine. bavSvebo, iqneb Tqven mainc SeZloT, gamoafxizloT da
realobaSi daabrunoT nata. winaswar gixdiT madlobas (marTalia, damavoim
ramdenime dRis win momwera, es mesiji aRar dabeWdo, azri ar aqvs, radgan
natam CemTan urTierToba gawyvita da aRarc vici, sadaa da rogoraa. Tan,
Jurnalebis kiTxviT didad ar iklavs Tavs da albaT, rCevebsac ver waikiTxavso, magram me imeds vitoveb, rom nata Tqvens rCevebs aucileblad gadaavlebs Tvals, gons moegeba da damavoisac bodiSs mouxdis. _ avt.)~.
ruispiri:
`rom giTxra, Seni mesmis-meTqi,
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gza
P.S. maS ase, Tu damavois werilis wakiTxvis Semdeg, masTan
dakontaqtebis survili gagiCndebaT, dagvimesijeT telefonis
nomerze: 8.58. 25.60.81. mas Tqveni daxmarebis imedi aqvs.
yvela erTisaTvis
gzavnilebi
`dedamTili an agaSenebs, an _ dagaqcevs~
`gzis~ #41-Si daibeWda ucnobis mesiji. SegaxsenebT,
gogona gvwerda, rom 2 welia, Seyvarebuli hyavs da mas
ukve coladac unda gahyoloda, magram: `dedamisma momwera, sxva uyvarso (vici, viRacas urigeben, is axlaxan
gaacnes). amas winaT Seyvarebuli piradad vnaxe. miTxra,
_ miyvarxar, Cemi sicocxle xaro. ar meubneba, ra sWirs,
ase ratom iqceva~.
`Seni `love~ `dedikos biWia~
damavoi:
`rogorc Cans, sadedamTilos ar
exatebi gulze, is biWi ki mSiSaras
STabeWdilebas tovebs. albaT, dediko
sxvas urigebs da mis winaaRmdeg
ver midis, paralelurad ki Seni
daviwyebac ar SeuZlia. aseTi kaci
meuRled ar gamogadgeba~.
Sokolada:
`Seni `love~ erTi unebisyofo
`dedikos biWia~. Tu ar ginda, mTeli cxovreba gaataro ojaxSi, sadac aravis eyvarebi da gverdiT
gyavdes kacuna, romelmac sakuTari
siyvarulis gadasarCenad brZolac
ver SeZlo, `loves~ sabolood unda
daSorde. Tavis mokvlaze aRar ifiqro. icode, ufali ar migatovebs.
Tu survili geqneba, damikavSirdi~.
sarvieta:
`Seni gasaWiris Sesaxeb netav,
araferi wamekiTxa... mSoblebo, rogor
SegiZliaT, Svils siyvaruli mxolod
sakuTari interesebis gamo aukrZaloT da ratom ggoniaT, rom
yovelTvis marTlebi xarT? Seni Seyvarebuli mtkice xasiaTiT namdvilad
ver daikvexnis. gaarkvie, ra moxda
sinamdvileSi da iqneb, Tqveni siyvarulis gadarCena SeZlo kidec. gTxov, gagvagebine, ra iqneba momavalSi. Seni gulSematkivari var~.
eka
18:
`Seni ambavi Cemsas hgavs, magram
im gansxvavebiT, rom Cemma Seyvarebulma 1 Tvea, coli moiyvana :((.
vici, axla rasac ganicdi. icode,
yvelaferSi damnaSave dedamisia.
guli ar gaitexo, cxovreba grZeldeba~.
luna:
`pirvel rigSi, sulier siZlieres
gisurveb! Tavi Sens adgilas rom
warmovidgine, saSineli SegrZneba
dameufla. Tu Seni Seyvarebuli ar
gatyuebs da mas marTla uyvarxar,
maSin dedamisia yvelaferSi damnaSave. ar mesmis, Svilis saqmeSi ratom ereva? Tavis mokvlaze nu ifiqreb, daiko. mjera, yvelaferi kargad iqneba. im viRac gogos nu mis-
cem uflebas, sayvareli adamiani wagarTvas. warmatebebi!~
mima:
`im biWs uTxari, dedamisma rac
mogwera da yvelafris axsna mosTxove. simarTles mis TvalebSi amoikiTxav!~
svanis
asuli:
`aseTi seriozuli urTierTobis
Semdeg is biWi valdebulia, agixsnas, ra moxda sinamdvileSi. saerTodac, ratom hgoniaT biWebs, rom
aseT SemTxvevaSi yvelafris damalva saukeTeso gamosavalia? arada,
gamudmebiT vaJkacobaze deben Tavs...~
mware;
`ra gatirebs? _ daureke da
mosTxove, yvelaferi agixsnas. aba,
aseT uazro situaciaSi rodemde
unda iyo? Seni ambavi aucileblad
mogvwere~.
abezara:
`mgoni, Sens Seyvarebuls mSoblebi sxvas urigeben da SenTan urTierTobas uSlian. gaurkvevlobaSi
yofna dagtanjavs. seriozulad unda
daelaparako da yvelaferi gaarkvioT. warmatebebi!~
harvi
meamboxe
suli:
`ooo, cotaTi davibeni. imas ar
gvwer, sadedamTilos moewone Tu
ara. ise, xom ici, dedamTilze bevri ramaa damokidebuli: an agaSenebs, an _ dagaqcevs. iqneb, `dedikos biWTan~ gaqvs saqme? rom hyvarebodi, SenTvis ibrZolebda, movidoda da simarTles getyoda, magram saamisod vaJkacoba ar hyofnis. Tu giyvars, moZebne da aiZule,
simarTle giTxras~.
GOLD GIRL:
miskaka:
`ar mikvirs, ase rom itanjebi.
`loves~ gulwrfelad daelaparake.
sTxove, rac ar unda mtkivneuli
iyos, simarTle giTxras. Cemi azriT,
uyvarxar, magram raRac problema
aqvs. guls miende. mas ver daiviwyeb
manam, vidre simarTles ar gaigeb.
aba, warmatebebi!~
li
WriWina:
`dedamisma ki ara, Tavad unda
agixsnas, ratom gaqra. romeli saukunea? ras hqvia, viRacas urigeben?
qalma, romelmac Svilis sacole gaicno, sxvis rZlobaze rogorRa ifiqra?.. ise, cota ar iyos, damabnie.
mgoni, raRac gaugebrobaa da is
aucileblad dagibrundeba!~
osvaldi:
`Tu erTmaneTi giyvarT, am gamocdas unda gauZloT. warmatebebi!~
ruispiri:
`gamarjoba. Sen Segiyvarda adamiani, romelic amas ar imsaxurebs!
is sakuTar grZnobebSi CaxlarTuli adamiania da Seni fasi ar icis.
Tu misi sicocxle xar, sxvas ratomRa irTavs? ZaliT rom SerTon,
gana, 1773 welia. mec biWi var da
vici, Seni rCeuli axla rasac
grZnobs. merwmune, is Sens erT
cremlsac ar imsaxurebs!~
`rogorc Cans, Seyvarebulis
naTesavebs ar moewone da amitomac urigeben sxvas, Seni `love~ ki
`dedikos biWia~. merwmune, misnairi adamiani cxovrebaSi ar gamogadgeba. RmerTi gfaravdes~.
ikuSkebi:
`aq ukve zewolas aqvs adgili,
ojaxis mxridan. rogor SeiZleba,
aseTi seriozuli urTierTobis Semdeg migatovos? 2 weli sakmaod
didi droa saimisod, rom mimxvdariyo, uyvardi Tu ubralod, vneba amoZravebda. albaT, mis ojaxs
ufro perspeqtiuli sarZlo hyavs
SerCeuli, Sens Seyvarebuls ki nebisyofa ar hyofnis, maT winaaRmdegoba gauwios. didi siamovnebiT
davelaparakebodi Sens sadedamTilos da azrze moviyvandi. Tu siyvaruli gulwrfelia, misTvis brZola namdvilad Rirs. ise, mSiSara
da unebisyofo kacTan cxovreba gagiWirdeba. erTxel kidev Sexvdi da
ecade, yvelaferi aTqmevino. TvalebSi uyure da Tu Sens motyuebas
Seecdeba, maSinve Seatyob. Tu uRirsia, masze aRar idardeb mainc.
warmatebebs gisurveb!~
gza #42 15.10.2009
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gzavnilebi
mobili-zacia
mobili-zacia
imisaTvis,
`mobili-zaciaSi~
moxvdes,
imisaTvis,
rom rom
Tqveni Tqveni
mesiji mesiji
`mobili-zaciaSi~
moxvdes,
SMS-funqciaSi
SMS-funqciaSi
unda akriboT
unda akriboT
sityva sityva
GZA
GZA
mobiluri
telefonis
telefonis
mobiluri
gamotovoT
gamotovoT
erTi erTi
simbolos
simbolos
adgiliadgili
da akriboT
da akriboT
sasurveli
sasurveli
teqsti.teqsti.
SemdegSemdeg
mesiji mesiji
gamogzavnoT
gamogzavnoT
nomerze:
nomerze:
8884. Cems
8884. mobilCems mobilurze urze
mosuli
mosuli
mesijebi
mesijebi
am rubrikaSi
am rubrikaSi
ar gamoqveyndeba
ar gamoqveyndeba
(gamonak(gamonaklisi lisi
mxolod
mxolod
ucxoeTidan
ucxoeTidan
gamogzavnili
gamogzavnili
mesijebia)
mesijebia)
da kidev:
da kidev:
erTi erTi
mesiji mesiji
mxolod
mxolod
160 simbolos
160 simbolos
itevs. itevs.
Tu vrceli
Tu vrceli
mesijismesijis
gamogzavna
gamogzavna
gsurT,gsurT,
is ramdenime
is ramdenime
mesijad
mesijad
unda unda
gadmogzavnoT.
gadmogzavnoT.
qalebi
1. var ana, 29 wlis, ganaTlebuli,
mSvenieri. maqvs smenis problema. gavicnob daojaxebis msurvels, Tundac
raime nakliT, ganaTlebuls, 35 wlamde, Segnebul adamians. datoveT mesiji.
2. gamecaniT biWebo, ra, 15-dan 19
wlamde. biWebo, gamecaniT. berbiWav, sad
daikarge?
3. var 39/175, wynari, seriozuli
qali, kargi garegnobiT. daojaxebis
mizniT gavicnob Sesaferis mamakacs.
4. mqvia maka, var 27 wlis. gamomexmaureT mxolod seriozulebi, ojaxis Seqmnis mizniT.
5. var 31 wlis, maRali, susti, garegnulad kargi da arc Tu ise cudi
xasiaTis gogona. ojaxis Seqmnis mizniT
gavicnobdi maRal, simpaTiur, uzrunvelyofil mamakacs.
6. var profesiiT eqTani, axalgazrda
gogo. mqvia niniko, var 25 wlis. minda,
ojaxis Seqmnis mizniT gavicno seriozuli, axalgazrda pirovneba. geliT.
makaci. gavicnobdi 32-37 wlamde qalbatons, ojaxis Seqmnis mizniT. var
raionidan.
9. gavicnobdi 36 wlamde asakis qalbatons, ojaxis Seqmnis mizniT, uSvilos an Tu eyoleba erTi Svili.
10. var 42 wlis, ganqorwinebuli
mamakaci. vcxovrob raionSi. gamomexmauros 35 wlamde asakis qalbatoni.
sasurvelia, iyos uSvilo. giorgi.
11. myavs 36 wlis, ucolo Zma, simpaTiuri garegnobis. ojaxis Seqmnis
mizniT gamoexmauros 27 wlamde asakis,
gasaTxovari qaliSvilebi.
12. var 37/172/80, simpaTiuri garegnobis mamakaci. ojaxis Seqmnis mizniT
vexmaurebi 25-35 wlamde asakis
mandilosans, visac namdvilad unda
Tbili da tkbili ojaxi. gasarTobad
ar mcalia.
13. vexmianebi `gza~ #41-Si gamoqveynebul me-5 gancxadebis avtors.
veZeb
14. veZeb aTenSi mcxovreb Tako CxaiZes.
damikavSirdi, menatrebi. mosuliSvili.
kacebi
7. var raionidan, 38 wlis. ojaxis
Seqmnis mizniT gavicnob raionidan an soflidan, gindac qvrivs da uSvilos. kaxa.
8. var 36 wlis, dasaojaxebeli ma-
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#42 15.10.2009
gza
sxvadasxva
• idealuri aravin da araferia amqveynad. ase rom, giyvardeT erTmaneTi
naklovanebebiT, mankieri mxareebiTa da
cudi TvisebebiTac ki. me axali var.
TqvenTan minda. aTareqsia.
• cremls, Tvalze momdgars gaumarjos, vaJkacis xeliT Sekavebuls, siyvaruls, uTqmels gaumarjos, Tvals
rom ver usworeb Seyvarebuls... Seni
saqcieli makvirvebs.
• mari, sixarulo, rogor xar? aqamde sayveduri xom ar damcdenia? daa...
ratom mCagrav, Zvirfaso? xan mimblokav... dRes ki ras vxedav? Cemi
mesijis bolo wawyvetilia, Tan arc
nikia miwerili... ratom, maar? da ra
gamovida? zogi movikiTxe, zogi _ ara?
bavSvebs ar ewyinebaT? Tan oles babuoba
mivuloce... miyvarxar! CRAZY GIRL (Cemo
kargo, saqme is gaxlavs, rom erT mesijad mxolod 160 simbolo igzavneba
da Tu mets akreb, maSin programa TviTon CamoaWris, rac zedmetia da mxolod 160-s gamouSvebs. ase rom, Seni
mesiji Tu `boloSi wawyvetilia~, eg
Cemi brali araa. rac Cemamde movida,
is davbeWde. mivxvdi, rom naxevari mesiji
iyo, magram me xom ar SemeZlo, gamomecno, vis mokiTxvas apirebdi, kidev? ase
rom, mag sayvedurs usamarTlod miviCnev, magram, vwuxvar, rom ase moxda,
_ avt).
• ramdenime ZaliT kacs unda mogmarToT: Tu vinmeze rames werT, nikic
miawereT, rom icodes adamianma, vin
ambobs masze cuds. ra mainteresebs,
iciT, kacunebo? roca vinmes aqebT da
elaqucebiT, maSin ratom werT nikiT
da roca aginebT _ unikod, ha? tyavSi ver eteviT, biWo? fu, vinc Tqven
kaci giwodaT, me imis deda da daJe
deida vatire, raa... JurnalSi
gogonebTan Tqvens magar biWobaze
laparakobT da albaT kacebTan mowmeebiviT dgaxarT. ar SegiZliaT,
ubraloeba? popularobas eZebT, kacunebo? cxovreba zRvaa, Cven ki patara
kenWebi. zedmetia borgva da farTxuni,
mobili-zacia
TviTon migviCens Cvens adgils. eg gaanalizeT, biWo. mibaZeT Sewirulsa da
moxucs ubraloebiT, qals xotba SeasxiT, apoloniviT. gaxsovT, misi leqsebi? mibaZeT gulRia iumoriT maestrosa da olegarios. Tu vinmesTan arSiyi gindaT, gaicaniT da earSiyeT,
magram Tqven xom marto furclidan
SegiZliaT laparaki. imaze rogor
laparakobT, vin cdilobda Tqvenze
gasaRebas? magrad ar gvkidia, yvelas?
mgoni Tqven ver saRdebiT. qals unda
agrZnobinoT, rom sasurvelia, magram
ara _ Tqveneburad, Tqve ubedurebo.
qals Tvali gausworeT da ise
agrZnobineT, sajdomze rom uyurebT
da mere Tqvens emociebs aq werT, egaa
Tqveni siZliere? daviT da gio, dabrundiT ra, kacurad... 9717.
• berbiWav, Sen albad ar gaxsovs
gruzinkas guliani, kamelias usazRvro
tkiviliTa da siyvaruliT gaJRenTili,
ikuSkebis Tvalmouwyveteli da iumoriT savse, pariJankasa da lunas romantikuli da mxiaruli gzavnilebi (romeli erTi CamovTvalo), Torem `gzis~
mamoZravebel RerZze sxva azri Segeqmneboda. mari, is `gza~ menatreba, yvela
erTmaneTs rom efereboda. nuTu
tkivili imdenad aborotebs xalxs, rom
siyvaruli aviwydebaT? tirifi73.
• mariamul, mapatie, wina kviras ver
Segexmiane, magram mepatieba, gadarbenaze
var... awi aRar dagtoveb... sixarulo,
ar mesmis, am xalxs ra unda? me msiamovnebs gzavnilebis wera da vwer, magram rogorc Cans, es sxvebs aRizianebs. Tavadac weron, vin uSliT? minda,
mas vuTxra, vinc `gzaSi~, Cems Tavidan
moSorebas cdilobs, rom ubralod
mecodeba. sxvebi xom xedaven, rom
arafers vaSaveb garda imisa, rom vwer?
magram ara uSavs, mesmis Tqveni. luna.
• gamarjoba, mari deida. rogor
xarT? me zuka var, 12 wlis da minda
mgzavneli gavxde, magram mgoni patara
var, ar mimiRebT da guli mwydeba.
arada, Zaan minda, Cemi mesijebic daibeWdos `gzaSi~. iqneb mimiRoT? Taxvi.
• ara ra, mar, xom geubnebi, yvelaferi CawyobiTaa, raa... or mgzavnels
gacnoba vTxove da ignori ar miviRe,
Zama? hmmm, azrze xarT? mgzavneli mgzavnels gacnobaze uars eubneba da is
viRac gadamTieli natoSi SegviSvebs?
araaa, ra saSveli araa... faqtobrivad,
davrCiT mapis gareSe da dagviWkna ayvavebul-gafurCqnuli ekonomika. hm,
arada, ras hyvaoda bebiaCemis tyemaliviT?! mere ityvian, tyuoda stalinio
(stalini raRa SuaSia, Tu vicode,
mivewio berias. uh, RmerTma damifaros).
9717.
• maar, Cems kacobasa da vaJkacobas
geficebi, Tu odesme raime problema
an arasasiamovno situacia Segiqmna.
ubralod gTxov, miTxari, ratom
mblokav xolmee? mister. (am kiTxvas
bevri TqvenTagani misvams da axla gipasuxebT: aravis mimarT piradi mtroba rom ar makavSirebs, amas albaT xvdebiT. ubralod, xSiradaa, rom Tqven
mier gamogzavnili mesiji araa saintereso an iseT ambavs Seicavs, romlis
`gzavnilebSi~ dabeWdvac miuRebelia da
amitom iblokeba. merwmuneT, rom umizezod arc erTi mesiji ar daikargeba.
saintereso ambavi `deficiti~ gaxda
lamis `gzavnilebisTvis~ da Tu ase
gagrZelda, SesaZloa, rubrika
`mokvdes~ kidec. amitom, Cemi Txovna
iqneba, gulisyuriT moekidoT Cems
naTqvams da iseTi mesiji gamogzavnoT,
romlis dablokvac SeuZlebeli iqneba, _ avt).
• limona, madloba dai, yvela miyvarxarT da maxsovxarT, magram garkveuli problemebis gamo unda dagemSvidoboT. albaT rodesme davbrundebi.
gkocniT yvelas. ukareba.
• mari, gTxov, mgzavnelebis fotoebi kidev dabeWde, raa...
• maar, privetebi, rogor xar, kargo adamiano? ici, ra minda gTxovo?
Sens dedikos Cems magier madloba
uTxari, aseTi kargi rom gagzarda.
aba, dafiqrdi, Cemi CaTvliT ramdens
ulamazeb cxovrebas. Seni romanebisa
da `gzavnilebis~ mere cxovreba iseTi
ruxi aRar mgonia. maris dediko, madloba marisTvis. matitela. (madloba
matitelas. Cems dedikos Zalian gaaxarebs Seni mesiji, _ avt).
•
au, biskvituniebi momenatraaa...
silamaze gadaarCens msoflios, Tu am ukanasknels
eyofa Zala masTan erTad
mSvidobiT icxovros
gzavnilebi
Tqven ras ityviT, kremebooo? uCvenod ra Sesaxedavebi iqnebian, warmomidgenia, gamxmar-gafSekilebi... Cems
moRalate biskvits, supersTars erTi
kai magari Capwkena Cemgan da Cems surogat biskvits, kozanostras Caxutebaooo... momenatreT, boTukebooo...
SWEET-GIRL.
• me gagixsene, oRond ukve _
rogorc warsuli.../ ai, movida Semodgoma, palitriT, ferTa.../ da gamaxsenda im dReebis siame, gancda.../ qars
moaqvs Cemken surneleba im ganvlil
dReTa.../ magram am surnels aRar aqvs
Cveuli siTbo.../ mas mxolod Zveli
SerCenia faruli sevda.../ an iqneb CemSi
moxda raRac feriscvaleba.../ albaT is
guli aRar maqvs, maSin rom Zgerda...
SWEET-GIRL.
• duuC, menatrebi, kozanostra, uumagresi xar, gakoce. WriWina, sikvdila,
roko, limona, real, yvelani miyvarxarT, saZagleboo! SKY.
• mgzavnelebo, ani, NON STOP, GRAZY
GIRL, soni da yvelas didi madloba,
iubiles molocvisTvis. ise, 14-is gavxdi da yvelaze pawia mgzavneli kidev me
viqnebi? :) abezara.
• nini, genacvale, Tqven da Tqvens
rCeuls asakis saproblemo intervali
ar gaqvT. rac Seexeba erTad yofnaaryofnas, aucileblad orive mxaris
mSoblebisa da axloblebis azri unda
gaiTvaliswinoT.
• ASHLEY-s mokiTxva. luniCk, nu moiwyen, aq yvelas uyvarxar! eSmakuna, pasuxi ratom ar damibrune, jigaro?
namdvili mamakaci.
• moTminebiT velodi, rodis dabrundebodi, limon. Sens gareSe gzavnileTs simxiarule aklia. :) kidev erT
suliT lamaz mgzavnels, tirifi73-s
movikiTxav. sarvieta.
• msajul, Seni martivi daskvna, geficebi, gulian Rimils mgvris. samwuxaroa, pativiscemas da kudis qicins
erTmaneTisgan rom ver ansxvaveb, magram ar iRelvo, Seni mesmis, SesaZloa,
multfilmebis yurebis asakSi xar da
amitomac gaqvs wiTel-yviTeli feris
azrovneba, magram Tu saqarTveloSi
mcxovrebi, serialebis mayurebeli,
gabruebuli qalebis jgufis wevri xar,
maSin Seni am SemTxvevaSic mesmis. ise,
Sen da bebiaCemi iolad daZmobildebiT, masac SensaviT mecnierebisTvis jer
kidev auxsneli azrovneba aqvs. ho, marTla, Seni fenomenaluri gonebrivi
SesaZleblobebi ar aRemateba sityva
msajulis statuss. amitom misaRebi
iqneba, Tu sakuTar Tavs Sesaferisad
anu metaCkeTi waradgen. P.S. gmadlob
Cems gaxalisebaze rom zrunav. mister.
• cocxalo
Tojinav, WOW! WOW!
gza #42 15.10.2009
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gzavnilebi
da kidev erTxel _ WOW! gancvifrebuli var SeniT, sityvebs namdvilad
ver vpoulob. saocreba xar! Semogevle! genacvale sulSi da gulSi. Cemi
sixaruli xar! geficebi, xuTSabaTis
dila Seni saocari mesijis gamo gansakuTrebuli iyo. Seni Tavi mixaria
da SeniT vamayob! gaigee? vamayob! mister.
• salami yvelas. me axali var da
pirvelad vamesijeb, xom mimiRebT?
Zalian momwonxarT da gadavwyvite, SemogierTdeT. me idumali qalis qaliSvili var. megi.
• limon, gaixare. gina20, miRebuli
xar. ukarebav, fotoebs rodis gamomigzavni? olegario, gilocav. yvelani
kargebi xarT. abezara.
• Zia Saqro zRvaze anu rogor
datova orma axalgazrda biWma Zia
Saqro plavkis amara: napirs talRebi
etrfian, SariSurobs niavi,/ Toliebis JivJivia da palmebis Sriali,/ mze
mTebidan gadmomdgari, anTebs Suqis
maraos,/ Zia Saqro aRtacebiT, lurj
talRebSi banaobs./ tansacmeli napirze
aqvs, Sarvali da xalaTi,/ zedac kidev
ZvelisZveli, devs Cugunis saaTi./ iqve,
axlos, ori biWi gawolila silaze
da ise eficxebian almasiviT mbrwyinav
mzes!/ amovida zRvidan Saqro, naxa misi
karavi,/ tansacmels rom gadaxeda, zed
saaTi ar aris./ biWebs uTxra: _ ar
gewyinoT, arvinaa, Tqvens meti,/ hoda,
saaTs aiRebdiT, romelime, erT-erTi.../
hoda, Cemi rom ar SegrcxveT, isev
zRvaSi CavyvinTav/ da saaTi iqve dadeT, sadac ido Tavidan!/ ...da CayvinTa Zia Saqrom zRvaSi wami samoci,/
amovida, aRar daxvda, aRarc tanisamosi... jeje.
• iasamano, gaixare, madloba mokiTxvisTvis. mec mogikiTxav. flamingo,
Senc didi madloba, kargi sityvebisTvis. me davbrundi. jeje.
• siyvarulis morevSi gadaveSvebodi TaviT, mara raaa, ro? iyo da arc
ra iyo, ra... es droc rogor uazrod
garbis da... wadi, wadi monasterSi,
monasterSi, ofelia! meme.
• rogor xar, mari? limon, gaixare!
SWEET, GREEN, 9717, li harvi, Cup, duC,
supersTar, ole, ASHLEY, ikCo, ikuSkebi, aTen... miyvarxaarT da gakoceT! CRAZY
GIRL.
• rogor xarT, Cemo kargebo, tkbilebo, gemrielebo da sayvarelo mgzavnelebo? WriWina gavicani da magrad momewona, droa, sxvebic gavicno. ho, marTla, olegarios vulocav
SviliSvilis, likunas dabadebas. sasaxelo da saamayo gazrdiliyos. aqve
movikiTxav limonas, tirifi73-s, iasamans, Tolias, lunas, gruzinkas, berbiWas, namdvil mamakacs, mgzavrs, ole-
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gza
mobili-zacia
garios, Sewiruls, qal cdunebas, qal
patruls, 9717-s, maestros, WriWinas,
sikvdilas. vaime, vinme xom ar gamomrCa? idumali qali.
• gaixare, Cemo kargo, didi madloba. aba ra, naT, unda gavawvaloT,
oRond ormagad mogviwevs, Torem
momaval wlamde TviTon gamawvalebs.
gaixareT. Tako.
• vin bzes qeqavs, vin ki nacars, Sen,
msajulo, qaqs rad qeqav? frTxilad,
Torem Cvens sajdomze, emag kbilebs
moitexav. Sen sxvis dones rogor gansji, roca SeniT briyv Wuks hgavxar?
aude, raa... berbiWa.
• iasamano, didebuli gogo xar. eqsgulnatkeno (amoucnobo), epicentrSi
myavxar, yuradRebis 8-baliani sazomiT.
Zmoba giTxra, Tuu... ha? berbiWa.
• ris mijaWva da daSroba, mag 9
Tvals rad mibrialeb? am Cems boboqar nakadSi, almasad agabrWyvialeb. sicocxlis sagalobeli, kafiad agixmiane. gakoceoo. berbiWa.
• me da misteri megobrebi varT,
Sen ki msajulad ver gamodgebi, ukanonod rom msjelob, imitom! aseTi mkveTri
azrovnebisgan Tavis Sekavebas girCev.
ikuSkebi.
Tureb xelebs. enigma.
• eSmakunas: gigla, geyofa swavla,
axla kargia gavla... qalo, momenatre.
dade cota xani eg wignebi. limon, miyvarxar. sikvdil, rTvelze ratom ar
dampatiJe? WriWina.
• am kviras sevdian da idumal qals
Sevxvdi. beevri viWoraveT, erTmaneTs
movefereT da umagresi Salaxoc vicekveT. abaaa! orive Zalian miyvarxarT.
WriWina.
• Zvirfaso iasamano, iasamani mec miyvars. sesi, Seni nomeri davkarge, arada, menatrebi. realo, Cemi guli xar.
limon, Cemo Savtuxav, miyvarxar. WriWina.
• sixaruliT movikiTxav Tolias,
sevdian da idumal qals, enigmas, olegarios, misters... limona da iasamano,
gexutebiT Tbil gulebSi. gkocniT
yvelas, kuskusela.
• maestro, Cemi gamogzavnili suxari mogewona? Seni jeria, SoTi unda
gamoatano Cems Zmas. ;-) Seni leqsi momewonaaa. yvelas mogikiTxavT, siyvaruliT. Tako.
• alina, sixarulo, ver warmoidgen, rogor miyvarxar da gafaseb. sofi,
mamu, kami, gaRmerTebT! namdvilo mamakaco, madloba, Zami! luna.
• parmen, eg Sen xar, visac Cemi wasvla gauxardeba. sveta, erTi survili
mec maqvs. mister, rodis davTvreT?
luna.
• didi siyvaruliT movikiTxav dacema qalebs _ sevdiansa da idumals.
Zalian gamoacocxleT `mobili-zacia~.
ukarebav, gmadlob, sixarulo. soni,
jigari xar, gaixare. olegario.
• movkuskusdiii... iasamansa da limonas vexutebi Tbilad da udidesi
sixaruliT. miyvarxarT Zalian, gkocniT. kuskusela.
miyvarxar
gomSi, gijdaubanSi yvelas vetyvi
_ miyvarxarT da menatrebiT da rac
dro gadis, ufro metad. Tqveni beberi.
minda vuTxra giorgis, rom usazRvrod miyvars da gausaZlisad
menatreba. Cemi guli arasodes gacivdeba
Sen mimarT, mTeli cxovreba Seni
aCrdili viqnebi. gio, Seni daviwyeba
gamoricxulia, es icodes yvelam! uyvarxar, uyvardi da eyvarebi marad,
Sens sofios.
• me Sen aucileblad dagimtkiceb,
Cven Soris vis ra ekuTvnis da vin
risi Rirsia. daTo.
• hangebs Cavmalav sada riTmebSi,
bedcremliani vumRer momavals, gzaSi
arsebul labirinTebSi, me gzas daveZeb, Tqvenken momavals. COLD GIRL.
• msajulo, done jiqanze gicani!
Tumc, Seuracxgvyof me, ikuSkebs, berbiWasa da misters, magram gvjera, am
dros Seni jiqnebiT ki arada, ZuZuebiT gvlocav. gewyina? ara, marTla?
daimaxsovre, rom sxvebsac ase swyinT
da nu cdilob, popularoba ase unamuso gziT, sxvaTa waqezebiTa da lanZRviT moipovo. sulSi nuravis ufa-
gilocav!
• neapolSi, monatrebul bicola
julis vulocav dabadebis dRes, 15
oqtombers. moTminebas, janmrTelobasa
da uflis wyalobas gisurveb. gvenatrebiT... Seni muliSvili, vova.
• dabadebis dRes vulocavT Zmebs,
mobili-zacia
jaba da irakli ujmajuriZeebs. mravals
daeswariT, RmerTi gfaravdeT. ecadeT, cxovrebaSi iyoT `vin~ da ara _
`ra~.
• Cems oTxi wlis unaxav, monatrebul, sayvarel SviliSvils, goga yifSiZes vulocav dabadebis dRes, 10
oqtombers. aTi wlis xdebi, Cemo
sixarulo, gaizarde janmrTeli, Wkviani da sasaxelo vaJkaci. gfaravdes
ufali. Seni maguli bebo da daro
deida. gakoce bevri, Cemo sixarulo.
• Cems patara angelozebs, ekas da
valeris: Cemo sicocxleebo, netav
icodeT, rogor menatrebiT. Zalian
miWirs uTqvenoba, yovel Rame sizmrad sul TqvenTan var. RvTismSobels vevedrebi, mudam Tqveni mfarveli yofiliyos. vecdebi, rac SeiZleba male davbrunde da is dedis
siTbo da siyvaruli, rac dagakeliT,
aginazRauroT. miyvarxarT uzomod
da mxolod TqveniT vsuldgmulob.
irma kapanaZe.
• Cemgan Sors myof, ucnob, monatrebul SviliSvils, Cems patara Tevdore
Carkvians didi siyvaruliT vulocav
pirvel dabadebis dRes, 9 oqtombers.
mironisa da mrwamsis Zala sulSi CageRvenTos, angelozis CiraRdani Sin da
gareT genTos, iebis da enZelebis bilikebiT gevlos, mamis, Zis da suliwmindis madli dagebedos. ase glocavs
Cemi guli. gamezarde, bebo. ana bebosa
da murTazi babus Zalian uyvarxar.
gkocniT da geferebiT.
• qalbaton nestan svanaZes vulocav
dabadebis dRes, 17 oqtombers. janmrTelobas, yvelafer kargs vusurveb.
Tamuna.
• saberZneTSi mcxovreb bajeliZe
nestans minda mivuloco 14 oqtomberi, dabadebis dRe. vusurvo
janmrTeloba, sixaruli da gamZleoba, ucxo qveyanaSi. xar erTguli da
sayvareli qali da lamazi Svilis
deda. gfaravdes mudam RmerTi, ojaxTan erTad. naTia.
• nestan bajeliZe, 14 oqtombers
Seni dabadebis dRea da gilocavs yvela. mec minda, dagloco da gisurvo
janmrTeloba da survilebis axdena.
Sen xom keTili da erTguli xar, yvelasTvis. gkocni da gilocav. xatia.
• minda,
20 oqtombers dabadebis
dRe mivuloco quTaisel Tornike ServaSiZes. gaizarde sasaxelo vaJkaci, gaaxare yvela Senianis guli. gisurveb
yovelive kargs. eka.
• minda, Svilis dabadebis dRe mivuloco quTaisel Sorena da daTo
ServaSiZeebs. iyaviT bednieri mSoblebi, gaixareT da gamravldiT, Tqveni
Svilebis momavliT. eka.
• oqtomberSi dabadebul yvela
lamaz adamians, Cemi TamadobiT, minda
mivuloco dabadebis dRe da vusurvo
kargi momavali. nestani.
• minda, dabadebis dRe mivuloco
patara SoTa kakabaZes. Cemo patara,
WikWika mercxalo, marTlac im lamaz
da bednier dRes, 15 oqtombers gaumarjos, Sen rom gaCndi amqveynad, Cemo
yvelaze dido monatrebav da sixarulo. gilocav dabadebis dRes. daeswari
mravals, Sens mSoblebTan da axloblebTan erTad. gaizarde sasaxelo
vaJkaci, bebos sixarulo. marina bebo.
• xonSi apolon kuxalaSvils vulocav dabadebis dRes, 17 oqtombers
da vusurveb lamazi, qarTuli ojaxis
Seqmnas da saukeTeso wlebs. nestani.
• TianeTSi, Cems sayvarel da monatrebul dedikos, lia zviadaurs vulocav dabadebis dRes. vusurveb janmrTelobas da didxans sicocxles. Seni
marika.
• Cems rZals, elenes vulocav dabadebis dRes. vusurveb bednierebas,
qmarTan, akosTan erTad. deda, qeTino.
• Cems biZaSvils, miSiko kbilaSvils
vulocav dabadebis dRes. daeswari
mravals. gaxareba da uflis wyaloba
ar mogklebodes. warmatebebiT gagexarebinoT. irina da kaxa.
• miSiko kbilaSvils vulocavT dabadebis dRes. daeswari mravals. kargi
momavali da uflis wyaloba ar mogklebodes. bicola mayvala, biZaSvili _ ana.
• Cems uzomod monatrebul Zmas,
nugzar jaliaSvils vulocav dabadebis dRes. Cemo erTaderTo, Cauqrobelo sanTelo, didxans icocxle, Sens
patara, lamaz ojaxTan erTad. Zalian
menatrebi, Cemo sicocxlev, gfaravdes
RmerTi. gilocaven Seni sayvareli
daikoebi, ia da maia jaliaSvilebi.
• minda, didi siyvaruliTa da
monatrebiT, CemTvis yvelaze Zvirfas
adamians, miSka tyeSelaSvils 15 oqtombers dabadebis dRe mivuloco.
ufali gfaravdes mudam, dae, es weli
Seni ocnebebisa da survilebis asrulebis weli yofiliyos! menatrebi
Zalian. irina.
• xaTuna CakvetaZes dabadebis dRes
vulocav, 15 oqtombers. mravals
daeswari, Seni sayvareli ojaxiTa da
momavali pataraTi. ufali gfaravdeT!
miyvarxar. irina.
• didi siyvaruliTa da sixaruliT
minda mivuloco gabedniereba aTenSi
myof pelikos da alikas. lamazebo,
ixareT, ibedniereT da sitkboTi SeaberdiT erTmaneTs. imravleT da Rmer-
gzavnilebi
Ti iyos yovelTvis Tqveni mfarveli.
qalebis saxeliT glocavT da geferebaT nanuli.
• aTenSi droebiT myof elza CirgaZes vulocav dabadebis dRes. gisurveb did-did siyvaruls, lamaz sixaruls, ocnebis axdenas, varskvlavis
anTebas, cxovrebis sinaTles, uvrceles sicocxles. agreTve Seni didi
ocnebebis asrulebas, romelze fiqrSic aTeneb da aRameb. ineza.
• aTenSi droebiT mcxovreb amiran
da Tamuna CafiZeebs vulocavT dabadebis dRes, 19 da 23 oqtombers. gisurvebT janmrTelobas, didxans sicocxles da droulad dabrunebas,
Tqvens SvilebTan, rusudanTan da ninikosTan. gkocniT da miyvarxarT. manana
da Salva qavTaraZeebi.
• minda, gabedniereba mivuloco aTenSi droebiT mcxovreb alika aladaSvils da pelagia gogiSvils. gisurvebT yovelive kargs, cxovrebis
bolomde. RvTismSobeli mariami
gfaravdeT mudam. gisurvebT janmrTelobas, bednierebasa da Svilebis simravles. Tqveni keTilis msurveli biZa
da bicola, Salva da manana qavTaraZeebi.
• Cems sayvarel meuRles, buzRunas,
18 oqtombers vulocav dabadebis dRes.
vusurveb yovelive saukeTesos, Tavis
ojaxTan erTad. Zalian miyvarxar. Seni
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unda gamogzavnoT telefonis nomerze:
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#42 15.10.2009
gza
taim-auti
mozaika
taim-auti
saSiSi kerZebi da riskis moyvaruli gurmanebi
is Sxams Seicavs da SeuZlia, adamians RviZli dauzianos. giganturi bayayi
safrangeTSi Zalian popularulia da mis xorcs
qaTmisas adareben.
kasu marzu
fugu
iaponel mzareulebs Tevz fugusgan kerZebis momzadebas wlebis
ganmavlobaSi aswavlian. Sxamiani
Tevzis erT grams SeuZlia, dambla
da momentaluri sikvdili gamoiwvios. iaponiaSi yovelwliurad, misi
msxverpli daaxloebiT, 10 adamiani
mainc xdeba. gurmani klientebisTvis
umi fugus Txlad daWrili xorcisgan yvavilebsa da Citebs qmnian. 4
adamianis ulufa 200 dolari Rirs.
san nak ji
restornis akvariumSi SerCeul
rvafexas sufraze umad mogarTmeven.
misi Wama Zalian rTulia, radgan is
sacecebs saocrad grexs. rvafexas
dagemovnebisas, weliwadSi daaxloebiT, 6 adamiani iRupeba. Tu usafrTxod sadiloba gsurT, mzareuli rvafexas sacecebs dagiqucmacebT.
kasava
samxreT amerikasa da afrikaSi
gavrcelebuli am mcenarisgan tradiciul kerZebs amzadeben, magram Tu
mas arasworad moamzadebT, SeiZleba, ukanaskneladac isadiloT, radgan kasava cianidis Sxams Seicavs.
giganturi bayayi
namibiaSi giganturi bayayis xorci delikatesad miiCneva. ar miirTmeven mis Signeulobas, radgan
cxvris yvelSi matlebi budoben. maT 15 sm-ze
axtoma SeuZliaT, amitom Wamis dros sasurvelia, Tvalebi daxuWoT.
daWrili yvelisgan mZafri sunis mqone siTxe
iRvreba, romelic enas
gwvavT. mas SeuZlia, Rebineba an sulac, mowamvla gamoiwvios. kasu marzus gayidva akrZalulia da igi aralegalurad iyideba.
ak
i
aki
iamaikur da dasavleTafrikul
samzareuloSi xSirad iyeneben akis
nayofs. msxlis msgavsi nayofi, mkvaxec da gadamwifebulic, Sxams Seicavs. vargisia mxolod kurkasTan
mdebare rbilobi.
anwli
mwife anwli saSiSi araa, magram mkvaxe cianids Seicavs.
tarantuli
kambojaSi delikatesad miiCneva
Sxamiani obobasgan momzadebuli
kerZi. gigantur obobas Sxamian sacecebs aclian da nivrian zeTSi
xrakaven. kambojaSi miaCniaT, rom
tarantulis kerZi adamians mravali daavadebisgan kurnavs.
ra saidumlos gascemen Tvalebi?
cisferi, nacrisferi an lurji
aseTi feris Tvalebis mqone adamians winaaRmdegoba ar aSinebs da
dasaxuli miznisken jiutad miiwevs. yovelTvis mzadaa Tavgadasavlebisa
da avantiurisaTvis. Tu aseTi Tvalebis mqone adamianTan romani gaqvT,
mis Secvlas nu SeecdebiT. umjobesia, saerTo miznebi ganaxorcieloT.
WroRa
meryevi xasiaTi aqvs da guneba-ganwyobileba xSirad ecvleba. dRes Tu erTi
moswons, xval meores eficeba siyvaruls.
uWirs gadawyvetilebis miReba. brZolas
danebeba urCevnia.
zurmuxtisferi
ver itans kritikas. yovelTvis aRfrTovanebulia sakuTari saqcieliT da ideebiT. uyvars mxiaruleba da arc garSemo
myofebs aZlevs mowyenis saSualebas. Tu
Seuyvarda, mis gamo SeuZlebels SeZlebs.
Taflisferi
yovelTvis mowesrigebulia. icis, rogor
moawonos Tavi garSemo myofebs; kargi mosaubrea da daxvewilad icvams. uyvars yuradRebis centrSi yofna. siyvarulSi bednierebas maSin povebs, Tu rCeuli nebismier survils ausrulebs.
gza #42 15.10.2009
97
taim-auti
faruli garigeba da
25-milioniani
kontraqti
italiurma `ferarim~ espaneli
pilotis, fernando alonsos Tavis
gundSi gadasvlis faqti oficialurad daadastura. `feraris~ warmomadgenlis TqmiT, dadebuli
kontraqtis Tanaxmad, alonso am
sajinibos saxeliT 2010-2012
wlebSi iasparezebs. xelSekrulebis detalebi iaponiis gran-primde cota xniT adre gaxda cnobili. Tumca, moaruli xmebiT, maT
Soris faruli SeTanxmeba jer
kidev 2008 wlis ivlisSi Sedga
_ maSin, roca fernandos, `renos~
saxeliT gamosvla ramdenime Tvis
ganaxlebuli hqonda. axali kontraqtis mixedviT, alonso weliwadSi 25 milion evros miiRebs.
`mivesalmebiT Cvens rigebSi im
sportuli mozaika
runi Carltonis rekordis moxsnas gvpirdeba
`manCester iunaitedis~ forvardma uein runim Jurnalistebs
gaando sanukvari survili _
erovnul gundSi gatanili golebis raodenobiT gauswros
legendarul fexburTels, inglisis nakrebis kvlav `daumarcxebel~ goleadors, bobi Carltons. `am dReebSi saubrisas,
xumrobiT SevexeT am Temas, _
hyveboda runi. _ ser bobim
mirCia, klubSi TamaSisas meti
golis gatana davisaxo miznad.
amis gagonebisas, kargi gagebiT,
`daviqoqe~: erovnul gundSi gamosvlisas ukve 25 goli maqvs gatanili.
arada, mxolod 6 welia, rac nakrebSi vTamaSob, e.w. karieris dasrulebamde am maCveneblis sul cota, gaormageba SemiZlia; Carltonis rekordi ki _ 49 golia... amasTanave, isic unda aRvniSno, rom seriozuli
moqmedi konkurentic myavs: albaT mixvdiT _ maikl ouens vgulisxmob,
romelsac 40 goli aqvs gatanili. marTalia, mas karga xania, erovnuli
nakrebis maisuri ar mourgia, magram mainc aqvs Sansi, bombardirTa
nusxaSi pirveli striqoni daikavos~, _ dasZina ueinma.
Seuxedaobis kompleqsis
miuxedavad...
98
pilotis gamoCenas, romelmac ukve
araerTgzis gamoavlina saucxoo
Tvisebebi da orjer moipova
msoflios Cempionis tituli, _
ganacxada sajinibos Tavkacma, stefano dominikalim. _ aseve gvinda, madloba gadavuxadoT kimi
raikonens im mravali gamarjvebisTvis, romelic man Cvens gunds
moutana~. `vadaze adre kontraqtis gawyveta mxareebis SeTanxmebis safuZvelze moxda~, _ ganacxada raikonenma. finelis TqmiT,
im gundis datoveba, romelSic
ukanaskneli 3 weli gaatara, misTvis Zalian mZimea. `aq ise
vgrZnobdi Tavs, rogorc sakuTar
saxlSi. `ferariSi~ gatarebuli
wlebi CemTvis dauviwyar mogonebad darCeba~. `feraridan~ wasvlis Semdeg kimi raikoneni savaraudod, `maklarenSi~ dabrundeba,
romlis saxeliTac 2002-2006
wlebSi gamodioda. Tavis mxriv,
alonsos adgils `renoSi~ robert kubica daikavebs, romelic
amJamad `beemve zauberis~ saxeliT
gamodis.
#42 15.10.2009
gza
TiTqos Znelia, warmoidgino msoflios pirveli Cogani, serena uiliamsi
e.w. priala Jurnalis garekanze `standartuli~ lamazmanis ampluaSi, magram
sportuli Jurnalis _ ESPN _ mesveurebma am nabijis gadadgma gabedes da, rogorc
xedavT, erTob efeqtur Sedegsac miaRwies. serenas Tavadac miaCnia, rom fotomodelisTvis sakmaod Seuferebeli,
dakunTuli mklavebi, fexebi da metismetad ganieri mxrebi aqvs, magram sportuli Jurnalis fotoostatebma mas iseTi
poza SeurCies, romelic yvela am nakls
faravs da mouxeSav sportsmen qals erotikuladac warmogvidgens da amave dros,
misi sxeulis arc erT nawils ar aSiSvlebs. damatebiTi _ brWyviala efeqtis misaRwevad, mas specialuri zeTiT
dauziles tani da serenac, namdvili
varskvlaviviT `akaSkaSda~. arada, uiliamss
Turme sakuTari Seuxedaobis kompleqsi
awuxebda: `Cemi sxeuli... vfiqrob, metismetad didia, _ aRniSna CogburTelma qalma. _ xelebi uzomod
dakunTuli maqvs, uzomod sqelic...
da kidev _ visurvebdi, barZayebic
ufro viwro mqonoda. amitom, yoveldRe mTeli saaTi specialur varjiSebs
vasruleb, raTa mudam formaSi viyo...
da mainc, minda, yvela qals vuTxra:
nu SegeSindebaT! SeiZleba, sxeulis
nebismieri zoma gqondeT, magram mainc
lamazi da moxdenili iyoT _ rogorc
sulierad, ise garegnulad~.
taim-auti
sportuli mozaika
eWvebi `manCester iunaitedTan~
dakavSirebiT moixsna
sabolood gaifanta eWvebi inglisuri fexburTis grandis mimarT, romelic frangi fexburTelis transferTan
dakavSirebiT arsebobda. amgvarad, `manCester iunaiteds~
ufleba mieca, gauformos kontraqti 16 wlis pol pogbas,
romelsac misi wina klubi _ franguli `gavri~ 2010
wlamde TavisTan datovebas upirebda. fifas gadawyvetilebis
Tanaxmad, `manCesters~ pogbasTan molaparakebisas aranairi
wesi ar daurRvevia; amasTanave, `gavrs~ aqvs ufleba, es
gadawyvetileba gaaprotestos...
wleuls seqtemberSi fifam `Celsi~ imisTvis dasaja, rom
am klubma ukanonod gaaforma kontraqti frang gael
kakutasTan: inglisur klubs axali moTamaSeebis SeZena
2011 wlis ianvramde aekrZala. swored am movlenis Semdeg, ramdenime frangulma da italiurma klubma
ganacxades pretenziebi `manCester iunaitedis~ mimarT, magaliTad, `fiorentinam~ da `empolim~ klubs
maTi fexburTelebis gadabirebisTvis uCivles fifaSi.
`barsas~ mesveurTa wuxili
espanuri `barselonis~ xelmZRvanelebi Sewuxebuli arian im faqtiT,
rom karles puioli da rafael markesi gundTan kontraqtis gagrZelebas ar Cqaroben. kataloniuri gamocemis _ Sport _ cnobiT,
klubis mesveurebma orive fexburTels Taviseburi ultimatumic ki
wauyenes: gadawyvetileba maT msoflios saklubo Cempionatis dasrulebamde _ e.i. dekembris Sua ricxvebamde unda miiRon. `barselona~ puiols orwlian kontraqts sTavazobs, xolo markess _ mxolod
erTwlians.
rubrika
moamzada
aleqsi r
exviaSvilma
rexviaSvilma
Seucnobeli
jados Sedegi _ gauTxovroba, Ralati, nevrozi
anu problema, romelic sul ufro TvalSi sacemi xdeba
am bolo dros TiTqmis yvela adamiani uCivis
nevrozs, ubaraqobas, ojaxur problemebs da a.S.
axalgazrdebi ojaxis wevrebs ver ugeben, rac
Cxubis mizezi xdeba da Semdeg, bavSvebi saxlidan
garbian an sulac, Tavis mokvlaze fiqroben...
qalbatoni lia
xsnis jados, av Tvals, Caketil beds, amzadebs damcav Tilismebs
da xSirad, mosalodnel sikvdilsac aSorebs adamians. man Tavisi
niWis wyalobiT Turme, araerTi ojaxi ixsna dangrevisgan.
qalbaton liasTan politikosebi,
biznesmenebi da Soubiznesis warmomadgenlebi rCevis sakiTxavad rom dadian, es araxalia. vidre masTan intervius Cavwerdi, mosacdel oTaxSi
Sekrebil adamianebs mivmarTe kiTxviT _ Tu saidumlo ar aris, qalbatoni lias niWi odesme raimeSi dagexmaraT-meTqi? umetesobam pasuxis gacemisgan Tavi Seikava, mxolod ori
maTgani ar moerida Cems diqtofons:
Tamriko:
`roca Cemi gasaTxovari gogonas
asakma 35-s miaRwia, xolo biWi ukve
40-is iyo da colis moyvanaze ar
fiqrobda, sagonebelSi Cavvardi. qalbaton liasTan axlobelma momiyvana.
aq rom movdiodi, vfiqrobdi, _
tyuilad mivdivar, verafers miSvelis-meTqi, magram Sevcdi. qalbatonma
liam miTxra: Tqvens Svilebs bedi aqvT
Sekrulio. mere damariga, Tu ra
rogor unda gamekeTebina. 3 Tvis Sem-
deg Cemi qaliSvili daniSnes, mogvianebiT ki Cemma vaJmac SeirTo coli.
axla aq madlobis saTqmelad movedi~.
lali:
`saxlSi daqali Sevifare... cota xanSi
Cemi meuRle ise Seicvala, rom vifiqre,
_ sayvareli gaiCina-meTqi, magram verc
vieWvebdi, Cems daqalTan Tu miRalatebda. mokled, orivem ise mkra xeli, Tvalic ar dauxamxamebia. Tavi ki ase imarTles: erTurTi Segviyvarda da ra
vqnaTo?!. qalbatoni lias wyalobiT
meuRle davibrune. didi madlobas mas
amisaTvis. axla sxva problema maqvs da
aq amitomac var~.
lia xuciSvili:
_ dRes yvelaze didi problema
gauTxovroba, uSviloba, ubaraqoba da
nevrozia, romelic ZiriTadad, axalgazrdebs awuxebT.
_ maT rogor exmarebiT?
_ Caketil bedsa da jados qristianuli locvebis (romelic wminda bar-
bares gamocxadebis Semdeg viswavle)
daxmarebiT vxsni. roca adamians jado
aqvs gakeTebuli, is saxlidan umizezod garbis, Cxubobs, ojaxis wevrebs
zizRiT uyurebs, xSirad avadmyofobs
da a.S. aseT adamianebs vaZlev Tilismas, romelSic sizmarSi naswavli saidumlo locva weria da is maT problemis mogvarebaSi exmareba.
_ amboben, rom axalgazrdebs
daqorwinebaSic exmarebiT...
_ xSirad, Seyvarebul wyvils
daqorwinebaSi xels boroti `Tvali~ an Caketili bedi uSlis. maT
locvebis garda, veraferi uSvelis...
aseve, xSiria SemTxveva, roca kacebi
sayvarlebis gamo ojaxs toveben. maTi
dabruneba Tqvens xelSia _ amisTvis
viRacisTvis zianis miyeneba sulac
araa saWiro. arsebobs specialuri
locvebi, romliTac gaqceuli adamianis mobruneba SesaZlebelia. mTavaria
rwmena, locvebis kiTxva da amiT eSmaki ganidevneba.
P.S. qalbaton lias SegiZliaT
daukavSirdeT telefonis
nomerze:
69-60-00; 8(93) 21.52.33
(Cawera winaswar).
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taim-auti
eruditi
yofili `poetis~ wigniereba da
uRran tyeSi gatarebuli dReebi
`vaRiareb, dResdReobiT wignebs veRar vkiTxulob, magram iyo dro, roca aqtiuri mkiTxveli viyavi da upiratesobas biografiuli Janris
literaturas vaniWebdi~, _ miTxra msaxiobma
gia cinaZem, romelic sazogadoebam ucnauri
imijiT da myudros rolis SesrulebiT gaicno.
misi
sayvareli
avtori
guram
doCanaSvilia.
uyvars poeziac. iyo dro, roca leqsebs Tavadac werda da Tavi magari vinme egona, axla ki
darwmunebulia, sakuTari leqsebi rom gadaikiTxos, gaecineba da Sercxveba.
`mTaSi yofnisas araerTi leqsi damiweria~
Tamuna kvinikaZe
preambulis
_
gia,
leqsebs
ra
magier
asakSi
werdi?
_ maSin 15-16 wlis biWi viyavi, sisxli miCqefda.
_
raze
werdi,
_ am ulamazesma qarTvelma msaxiobma araerTi dauviwyari saxe Seqmna. bevrma ar icis, rom
is varSavaSia dabadebuli. daasaxele es msaxiobi.
siyvarulze?
_ (fiqrobs) miniSnebas ver metyvi?
_ siyvarulzec. im wlebSi da Semdegac mTaSi
xSirad davdiodi. iq yovelTvis mimqonda ramdenime wigni da vkiTxulobdi. sxvaTa Soris, mTaSi
yofnisas araerTi leqsi damiweria.
_
mwvervalebze
ar
mTa
riT
gizidavs?
_ iq yvelafers sxvagvarad aRviqvam. mTaSi
sxva silamazea, magram misi SegrZnebis unari yvelas rodi aqvs... erTxel myinvarwverTan axlos,
uRran tyeSi mdebare kldes Sevafare Tavi da iq
1 Tve vcxovrobdi. marto ar viyavi _ mecxvaris
jiSis lekvi maxlda, romelic Semdeg, TbilisSi
wamoviyvane. maSin iseTi periodi iyo, mTaSi ganmartoeba msiamovnebda, magram axla rom wamiyvano, SeiZleba, 3 dRec ver gavZlo.
_
1
Tve
Tavi
riT
gaitane?
martoobaSi
ra
aRmoaCine?
_ iq raimes aRmosaCenad ar wavsulvar. ubralod, davisvene, davmSviddi. tyeSi Tavs saocrad
msubuqad vgrZnobdi da ar mindoda, rameze mefiqra.
_ mTaze laparaki
kiTxvarze gadavideT.
gagvigrZelda,
droa,
_ aba, daviwyoT. vecdebi, yvela is faili
gavxsna, sadac esa Tu is informacia maqvs Senaxuli (icinis).
_ Tu ici, pirvelad vin
mokle Sarvali e.w. `Sorti~?
_ ara, Sen ici?
_
oskar
uaildma.
_ kargi, awi mecodineba.
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gza
SemoiRo
tragikulad
daiRupa.
_
ra
erqva
vaxtang
gorgaslis
vaJs?
_
_ daCi. vin
reJisori?
aris
filmis
_
`uZinarTa
mze~
_ Temur babluani.
_ ra prizi miiRo am filmma
berlinis saerTaSoriso festivalze?
1993
wlis
_ `oqros daTvi~.
_ cdebi, `vercxlis daTvi~. ra erqva saidumlo saxelmwifo policias faSistur germaniaSi?
_ vici da unda gavixseno (fiqrobs) gestapo,
ara?
_ diax. romel
saxelmwifo?
kontinentzea
mxolod
erTi
_ avstraliis kontinentze.
_ tyeSi megobrebTan erTad wavedi, magram iq
didxans ver gaZles da ukan maleve gamobrundnen.
sakvebis maragi waRebuli mqonda, magram Tu raime
damWirdeboda, yazbegSi Cavdiodi, vyidulobdi
da isev Cems gamoqvabulSi vbrundebodi.
_
is
_ ar maxsovs.
adiodi?
_ rogor ara! myinvarwveri orjer davlaSqre.
_
_
_ nato vaCnaZe.
xmarebaSi
_ am
sakanSi 75
qarTvel mwerals sikvdilmisjilTa
dRe aqvs gatarebuli.
_ amJamad cocxalia?
_
diax.
_ Wabua amirejibi.
_ ra ewodeba saxelmwifos
Semosavlisa da gasavlis nusxas?
yovelwliuri
_ ggonia, ar vici? biujeti.
_ romel wels
sabWoTa kavSiri?
Seiqmna
da
rodis
daiSala
_ rodis Seiqmna, ar vici, magram 1991 wels ki
daiSala.
_ 1922 wlis 30 dekembers Seiqmna. romeli
operis personaJebi arian _ malxazi, cangala da
kiazo?
_ `daisis~.
_
ra
hqvia
ukrainis
parlaments?
_ rada.
_
romelia
braziliis
_ portugaliuri.
oficialuri
ena?
taim-auti
eruditi
_
`kapitani
nemo~
wakiTxuli
_ ar vici.
gaqvs?
_ ra Tqma unda, Jiul vernma dawera.
_
ra
erovnebis
iyo
kapitani
nemo?
_ indoeli. naxe, ra magari var, ramdeni ram
vici.
_ romis pirveli diqtatori _ lucius
kornelius sula feliqs diqtatorad iwodeboda.
ras niSnavs `feliqsi~ qarTulad?
_ rkina. Tavdapirvelad, am mcenares mxolod
dekoratiuli daniSnuleba hqonda, radgan misi
nayofi Sxamiani egonaT, dRes ki is mniSvnelovani
sakvebi produqtia.
_ aseTi ram pomidorze msmenia. gamovicani?
_ diax.
kunZulebi?
_ es rTuli kiTxvaa. feliqsi kacis saxelia...
_ `feliqsi~ bedniers niSnavs. marmarilos
zRvasTan romel zRvas aerTebs dardanelis srute?
_ (icinis) kiTxva Semibrune, ara? ggonia, davibnevi? dardanelis srute aerTebs.
_ daasaxele cnobili literaturuli personaJi, romelic kinoSi imeda kaxianma, xolo
TeatrSi gogi gegeWkorma ganasaxiera.
_ miniSnebas ver metyvi?
_ am literaturul personaJs
aSvilis SemoqmedebaSi vxvdebiT.
daviT
kldi-
_ vin
avtori?
_ arCil gomiaSvilma.
_ romeli
Tambaqo?
`qarTvlis
deda~
saxelmwifos
gerbzea
gamosaxuli
_ ar vici.
_ braziliis gerbze. baxtrioni, samSvilde,
artanuji _ CamoTvlili istoriuli cixe-qalaqebidan, romeli ar mdebareobs dRevandeli saqarTvelos sazRvrebSi?
_ miganiSneb.
aaSena.
es
cixe
vaxtang
gorgasalma
aqlemis
_ artanuji. II msoflio omis dros romel
saxelmwifoSi mdebareobda gansakuTrebuli sisastikiT cnobili tyveTa sakoncentracio banaki _
`osvencimi~?
_ poloneTSi.
Svils?
_ aqlemuka (icinis). kozaki hqvia.
_
_ romel qveyanaSi laSqrobisas moukles
aleqsandre makedonels sayvareli cxeni bucefali?
_ mgoni, indoeTSi laSqrobis dros.
_ diax. `yofila daviT mefe
yofilan opizrebi gasaSterebeli,/
strofis
avtori?
_ murman lebaniZe, me mas vicnobdi.
_ es ingliseli mwerali sicocxles arafrad
agdebda da sakuTar dabadebis dRes Savebs
icvamda. viszea laparaki?
_ ver gipasuxeb.
_ deniel defoze. es sasargeblo wiaRiseuli
Cvens welTaRricxvamde II-I aTaswleulebSi oqroze
Zvirad fasobda.
ra
aris
gamosaxuli
`micubiSis~
logoze?
_ 3 rombi.
_ 3 rombisebri brilianti. `audi~, `opeli~,
`porSe~ _ romeli qveyana awarmoebs dasaxelebuli markis avtomobilebs?
_ germania.
aRmaSenebeli,/
yofila...~
_ `...modrekili, yofila curtaveli,/ rasac mohyolia SoTa rusTaveli~.
am
_
_ ver gipasuxeb.
_ cdebi, mixeil mesxi. romelma qarTvelma
msaxiobma Seasrula ostap benderis roli cnobil kinofilmSi _ `Tormeti skami~?
aris
qandakebis
_ elguja amaSukeli.
_ daviT yifiani.
vin
aris
_ (fiqrobs).
_ pirvelad romeli qarTveli fexburTeli
iyo dasaxelebuli msoflio simbolur nakrebSi?
_
aRdgomis
_ avstralias. vin Seasrula ilikos roli
filmSi _ `me, bebia, iliko da ilarioni~?
_ platon samaniSvili.
hqvia
ekuTvnis
_ sandro JorJolianma.
_ maSin is miTxari, marmarilosa da egeosis
zRvebs romeli srute aerTebs?
ra
qveyanas
_ ar vici.
_ (fiqrobs)...
_
romel
de
_ ra profesiis iyo frangi mwerali antuan
sent egziuperi?
_ mfrinavi iyo, ara?
_ pasuxi CageTvala. es marcvlovani mcenare
samxreT-aRmosavleT da centraluri aziis mcxovrebTaTvis ZiriTad sakveb produqts warmoadgens. is CineTSi jer kidev Cvens welTaRricxvamde V saukuneSi mohyavdaT.
_ axlac mohyavT?
_
diax
da
mas
sakvebad
Cvenc
viyenebT.
_ (fiqrobs) TeTri ferisaa?
_
am
kiTxvaze
ar
gipasuxeb.
_ brinji.
eruditi +
1. antarqtidaSi yinuli rom damdnariyo, okeaneebis done 30metriT aiwevda.
2. veeberTela kenguru 6-dan 10 metramde sigrZisaa da 2dan 3 metramde naxtoms akeTebs, magram xtomaSi rekordi
rwyils ekuTvnis _ rwyilis naxtomi misi sxeulis sigrZes 200jer aRemateba.
3. cxovelTa udides nawils curva SeuZlia, magram aqlemi,
Tu is Rrma wyalSi Cavarda, maSinve CaiZireba.
4. yvelaze zust bunebriv `saaTad~ dedamiwa miiCneva, magram
mecnierebma daadgines, rom igi yovelTvis Tanazomierad ar
brunavs: yvelaze swrafad _ agvistoSi, xolo yvelaze nela
martsa da aprilSi brunavs. mecnierebma isic daaskvnes, rom
dedamiwa saukuneebis win ufro swrafad brunavda, vidre _ dRes.
50
_ gamoicani. ra hqvia saeklesio wesebis krebuls?
_ ar vici.
_ tipikoni. dabolos, daasrule leonardo da vinCis cnobili gamonaTqvami: `mteri, romelic aaSkaravebs Sens Secdomebs,
ufro sasargebloa, vidre...~
_ (fiqrobs) ar vici, leonardo da vinCi ras fiqrobda, magram me am gamonaTqvams ase davasrulebdi: `...megobari, romelic
Secdomebze arafers geubneba~.
_ `...megobari, romelic maT
faravs~.
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taim-auti
gonebis
savarjiSo
anekdotebi
`gzis~
erTguli
mkiTxvelisaTvis
***
(kiTxvebi)
qvemoT mocemuli kiTxvebi Jurnal `gzaSi~ sxvadasxva dros gamoqveynebuli masalebis mixedviT aris Sedgenili. SeecadeT pasuxi gasceT am kiTxvebze ise, rom
axali ambebi: _ teroristebma
xelSi Caigdes Rvinis marani da
ager ukve meoTxe dRea, TavianTi
moTxovnebis formulirebas ver
axerxeben...
`pasuxebis~
svetisken
ar gageqceT Tvali
profesori CuqCas exveweba, TeTr
daTvze sanadirod wamiyvaneo.
_ daTvze sanadirod rom waxvide, Wkua unda gqondes, _ eubneba CuqCa.
_ eg namdvilad ar maklia, profesori kaci var.
_ kargi, wagiyvan!
wavidnen. didxans iares, 10 km
gaiares da miadgnen daTvis bunags.
CuqCam daTvs yvirili da yinulebis srola dauwyo. daTvi gabrazda
da orives gamoekida. gamorbian
CuqCa da profesori da mosdevs
daTvi. profesorma ifiqra, _ netav, ras gavurbivar am aqoTebul
nadirso? motrialda, Tofi daaxala da mokla.
_ gadairie?! _ ayvirda CuqCa
_ eg aris, rom miTxari, Wkviani
varo?!
_ var kidec! _ ar Seepua profesori.
_ hoda, Tu egrea, mohkide axla
mag daTvs xeli da saxlamde zurgiT aTrie!
1. ras eZaxian raWa-leCxumSi wbers,
aRmosavleT saqarTveloSi ki saqajavs?
2. ris gamo moxvda finuri sityva `saippuakivikauppias~ (SaliT
movaWre) ginesis rekordebis wignSi?
3. 1792 wels jeims smitis gamogonebam Zireulad Secvala fexsacmlis warmoeba, ris Sedegadac
mkveTrad gaizarda maTi realizacia. ra gamoigona smitma?
4. ra aris qumeli?
5. daasaxeleT qarTveli reJisori
da dramaturgi, romelic samjer
iyo germanelTa tyveobaSi da
samjerve gaiqca.
6. risi gamomxatveli Sorisdebulia `maxlas~?
7. ruseTis romelma imperatorma imefa 4 weli, 4 Tve da 4 dRe?
8. `znaite li vi Sto nikagda
naSa rodina ne bivaet takoi bezzaSitnoi kak 23-vo fevralia veCerom! bezzaSitnee ana tolko...~ _
daasruleT mixail zadornovis xumroba.
9. pirvelad caTamjeni 1885 wels,
uiliam le baronis mier CikagoSi
sadazRvevo firmisaTvis aSenebul
Senobas uwodes. ramdensarTuliani
iyo igi?
10. `igi udavod saSiSi adamiania, radgan Tavadac uryevad swams
imis, rasac laparakobs~, _ vis Sesaxeb
ambobda amas onore mirabo?
11. axal gvineaSi mcxovrebi
tomi tangu mSvidi xasiaTiT, kacTmoyvareobiT gamoirCeva da misi
wevrebi mopovebul sakvebs yovelTvis Tanabrad inawileben. riT
gamoirCeva maT mier gamarTuli
asparezoba-TamaSebi?
12. kunZul honululuze rvafexebs sarecx manqanebSi recxaven.
ratom?
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gza
***
***
mixom Tavis 6 wlis biWs dauZaxa da eubneba:
_ Svilo, Sen ukve didi xar da
seriozulad unda gelaparako. ukve
unda icode, rogor Cndebian bavSvebi qveynad.
_ kargiT, ra! sami wlisam gavige, rom Tovlis papa ar arsebobs,
oTxisam _ jujebis ambavic rom
gamogonili yofila; xuTi weli
Semisrulda Tu ara, egreve momaxaleT, kudianebic mezRapreebis
mogoniliao. axla Tu isic unda
miTxraT, seqsic ar arsebobso,
raRad minda sicocxle?!
***
deda Svils cixeSi swers: `Svilo, Zala aRar maqvs da bostnisTvis xeli aRar momikidebia.
miwis damuSaveba aRar SemiZlia,
veraferi davTese da ra vqna, aRar
vici~. Svili pasuxobs: `dedi,
bostans ar miekaro, Torem iseT
rames amoTxri, sananebeli gagixdeba~. deda: `Seni werili rogorc
ki movida, Cvens bostans policia
daesia da sul gadaTxara. veraferi
naxes da Zalian gabrazebulebi
wavidnen~. Svili: `riTic SemeZlo,
dagexmare, daTesva Senzea~.
***
svani rekavs miliciaSi.
_ `klara cetkinis~ boloSi
mkvdari kaci vnaxe.
_ ra adgilzea?
_ eg ar vici, nomeri ar aweria.
_ aba, ra giyoT? _ uTxres da
yurmili daukides.
cota xanSi svani isev rekavs:
_ rusTavelis ZeglTan amovaTrie! aq xom moagnebT?!
***
sidedri mixos ekiTxeba:
_ Svilo, is kaci Tu naxe, guSin
daxrCobas rom gadamarCina?
_ ho, TviTon movida da bodiSi momixada.
***
mesaaTe klients eubneba:
_ aha, waiRe saaTi, oRond icode,
dReSi orjer unda daqoqo.
_ Wamamde Tu Wamis Semdeg?
taim-auti
***
_ rogor fiqrob, ra daxata
mxatvarma am suraTze _ mzis amosvla Tu Casvla?
_ darwmunebuli var, Casvlaa.
_ ratom?
_ kargad vicnob mag mxatvars,
SuadRemde uyvars Zili.
***
coli dgas merve sarTulze
moSenebuli da daumTavrebeli Ria
aivnis kideze da qmars uyviris:
_ mombezrda, aRar minda Sennair loTTan da giJTan cxovreba!
axlave unda dasruldes yvelaferi!
erTi nabiji da yvelaferi gaTavdeba!.. xels nu mkrav, Se degenerato!..
***
indieli kovbois mwvadiT umaspinZldeba. orive madianad ilukmeba da Tan, laparakoben:
_ raRac ar momwons eg Tqveni
beladi, _ eubneba kovboi.
_ ar mogwons da nu Wam.
***
ebraeli saxuravidan gadmovarda, sakuTari samzareulos Ria
fanjaras Caufrina da cols SesZaxa:
_ sara, CemTvis sadili aRar
gaakeTo!
***
kaci midis eqimTan:
_ eqimo, miSveleT, naxevrad yru
var!
_ egeTi ram ar arsebobs an
yru unda iyoT, an _ ara.
_ Tu ar gjeraT, SemamowmeT.
eqimi daiCurCulebs: ormocdaoTxi da mere ekiTxeba:
_ aba, ra vTqvi?
_ ocdaori!
***
ori loTi maRaziaSi Sevida.
erTi meores ekiTxeba:
_ ramdeni aviRoT?
_ albaT, ori.
_ ori ra ambavia, erTi gveyofa.
_ erTi marto me minda.
_ ra gWirs, ram gagaRora?!
_ kargi, ho, erTi iyos.
_ qalbatono, oTxi boTli
arayi da erTi peCenia mogveciT.
`gzis~
erTguli
mkiTxvelisaTvis
***
(pasuxebi)
_ da Tqven amtkicebT, rom
qmarma gcemaT, romelic yavarjnebis daxmarebiTac Zlivs dadis?!
_ Cxubamde yavarjnebs ar xmarobda.
***
_ Zvirfaso, vgavar idealur
qals?
_ ara, Sen ufro meti xar!..
_ mainc, ramdenad?
_ ase, 50 kilogramiT meti!
***
_ WiWikia, win rom oqros kbili
gqonda, ra uyavi?
_ biWikias vaTxove, guSin qorwilSi midioda.
***
RamiT mixo maros aRviZebs:
_ loqos qinZmarSi ar SasWamdi?
_ ratomac ara, mixo!
_ mere wadi da daiWire.
_ sad wavide, gagiJdi? gareT
Tovs da Tanac, Ramea.
_ maSin egde Cumada!.. ar mamindoma Tevzi?!.
gonebis
savarjiSo
1. WaWis gamosawur wnexs.
2. igi yvelaze grZeli
palindromia msoflioSi (sityva, romelic waRmac da
ukuRmac erTnairad ikiTxeba).
3. fexsacmlis zomebi.
4. moxaluli marcvlis
fqvili.
5. mixeil TumaniSvili.
6. `maxlas~ dananebis gamomxatveli Sorisdebulia da
`ras izam~, `ra gaewyobas~
niSnavs.
7. pavle II-m. igi sakuTari
gvardiis oficrebma mokles.
8. `...24-vo utrom!~ (23
Tebervali armiis dRe gaxlavT, rasac mTeli ruseTi
sayovelTao loTobiT aRniSnavs, meore dRes ki nabaxusevze gamodian).
9. aTsarTuliani.
10. robespieris Sesaxeb.
11. isini yovelTvis yaimiT
mTavrdeba.
12. raTa isedac rbili
xorci ufro daarbilon.
C
Cv
ve
en
ni
if
fo
ot
to
o gg aa ll ee rr ee aa
es foto mkiTxvelma
Tamuna
WrelaSvilma
gamogvigzavna da
daarqva: siyvaruli
yvelas unda
SegaxsenebT, rom
namuSevrebi SegiZliaT
gamogvigzavnoT
elfostiT:
gza.fantazia@gmail.com, `kviris
palitris~ (`sityva da
saqmis~) safosto yuTebis
(konvertze miawereT
`gzisTvis~) meSveobiT an
mogvawodoT redaqciaSi
mis.: Tbilisi,
iosebiZis q. #49.
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taim-auti
astrologia
horoskopi
( 15-21
oqtomberi)


egoisturad iqceviT, radgan mxolod sakuTar
siamovnebaze zrunavT. axloblebs Tqveni daxmareba
sWirdebaT da kargi iqneba, Tu maT mimarT met yuradRebas gamoiCenT.

axali perspeqtiuli samsaxuri gamogiCndebaT da
ideebic `SegawuxebT~. eqimis rekomendaciis gareSe
nu miiRebT preparatebs. meti dro dauTmeT fizikur
varjiSs.

samuSaos paralelurad, saojaxo saqmianobisTvisac
moicaleT. Tu Zalian pretenziuli da kritikuli ar
iqnebiT, sasiyvarulo urTierTobaSi gagimarTlebT.
fortuna gagiRimebT da am kviraSi warmatebas miaRwevT. garSemo myofebi saCuqrebiT gaganebivreben. SemoqmedebiTi ideebi TanamoazreebTan erTad ganaxorcieleT.

nu gaxdebiT Worebis msxverpli. Tavi aarideT
uazro konfliqtebs. samsaxurSi kolegebTan loialoba gamoiCineT. kviris meore naxevarSi xanmokle
mogzauroba geliT.

am kviraSi uamrav iseT informacias miiRebT, rac
momavalSi gamogadgebaT. sasurvelia avejis ganaxleba. dasvenebis dReebi megobrebis, sayvareli adamianis garemocvaSi gaatareT.


uZrav qonebasTan dakavSirebuli sakiTxebi moagvareT. kargi iqneba, Tu sxvis, Tundac, Svilebis saqmeebSi
ar CaereviT. xalxmraval adgilebSi siaruls moerideT.

am kviraSi fuli zomierad unda xarjoT. sakuTari
moTxovnilebis dasakmayofileblad vals nu daidebT.
kviris bolos SeecadeT, saojaxo saqmeebi moagvaroT.

sxvebis daxmarebaze uars nu ityviT da piradi
saqmeebic moagvareT. dro ise gadaanawileT, rom
yvelaferi moaswroT. naklebi ifiqreT megobrebTan
garTobasa da internetze.
2,5 wlis aTuka qiziyuraSvilma
antikvaruli saaTi gatexa. Secbunebulma da SeSinebulma bavSvma babuas
mimarTa:
_ ala gabrazde, babu, ala
gabrazde.
cota xanSi, rogorc ki igrZno,
rom babua ar ubrazdeboda, uTxra:
_ babu, Tu ginda gabrazdi, me
al mewkineba.
4 wlis xatia arCvaZes biZa estumra, romelmac ramdenime xnis win
fexi moitexa. gakvirvebulma xatiam
didxans uyura biZas da hkiTxa:
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kargi periodia mogzaurobisTvis. Tu sakuTar ideebs
damajereblad wamoayenebT, xelmZRvanelobas daainteresebT da mis mxardaWerasac igrZnobT. uqme dReebi Sin gaatareT.

romantikulma Tavgadasavlebma SesaZloa, Tavgza
agibnioT. SeecadeT, ufro mobilizebuli gaxdeT.
sakuTari saqmis Sesrulebas sxvas nu daavalebT. kviris
bolos samosi SeiZineT.
patarebi geniosoben
gazeT `kviris palitris~ arqividan
_ joni Zia, axali fexi amogivida?
○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○
○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○ ○
3 wlis baCi bebos eubneba:
_ eg titveli qaTami ar gecodeba? sawyali, macivarSi xom
gaiyineba?!
nu iqnebiT metismetad pirdapiri. sakuTari Tavi rom
ar daazaraloT, samsaxurSi seriozul gancxadebebs nu
gaakeTebT. SesaZloa, sazRvargareT gamgzavreba mogixdeT.
8 wlis luka SaiSmelaSvili
televizors uyurebs, sadac ruseTCeCneTis oms uCveneben. luka mamas
ekiTxeba:
_ vin da vin omobs?
_ rusebi da CeCnebi, _ pasuxobs mama.
_ vin igebs?
_ rusebi.
_ ramdeniT ramdens?
5 wlis Tamuna qosaSvili hyveba:
_ iyo sami goWi: pirvelma var-
keTilSi aiSena saxli, meorem _
gldanSi, mesamem anu yvelaze magarma _ vakeSi.
3 wlis ana rurua mamas mamidasTan mihyavs. roca avtobusi mdinare
cxeniswyalze gadadioda, mamam auxsna: _ Svilo, es cxeniswyaliao.
ana ekiTxeba:
_ mami, Zroxis wyali sad aris?!
erTxel gaioz babuam 2 wlis
gvanca mxrebze Seisva.
_ babu, Subli giCans, uknidan,
_ uTxra pataram da TiTi gamelotebul kefaze daado.
taim-auti
skanvordi
1
2
mxare
visime
sityvebis saqarTveloSi
maragi
3
4
antidaniis
lopis
dedaqalaqi
saxeoba
5
amerikis
Stati
6
rusi
mwerali
7
naxSirbadis
nairsaxeoba
13
londonis
taqsi
8
9
Tivis
didi
grova
lepra
fr- 1 2
ZvirTosani
fasbewviani
cxeni
berZn. miT. mtacebeli
14
1 5 holandiis
walkoti
udabnoSi fexburTis
gundi
10
11
eqskursiamZRoli
16
qarTuli
Jurnali
17
Teatraluri
koleqtivi
18
kremiani
namcxvari
23
24
patara qva
qvevri
1 9 ukraine- 20
li
qveyana
momRerali evropaSi
qali
25
preparati
acrisaTvis
21
Zveli
quTaisi
sahaero
brZolis
ostati
26
27
CamonaTvali
brazilieli
fexburTeli
29
22
maRali
Zeli
2 8 SiSveli
sxeuli
xelovnebaSi
30
CineTis
sainformacio saagento
31
muxis
nayofi
3 2 espaneTis
fexburTis
gundi
33
kaTolike
mRvdeli
34
Txis
xmianoba
35
bavSvis
sabani
36
stadioni
valensiaSi
3 7 bred
pitis
pirveli
coli
38
40
39
bostneuli
komSi
nacvalsaxeli
1. farsadani; 2. rupia; 3. katreni; 4. saini; 5. esperanto; 6. arsenali;
7. onkologia; 8. nokia; 9. daiveri; 10. variani; 11. satira; 12. alikapi;
13. aversi; 14. samikitno; 15. klinika; 16. evro; 17. mixaki; 18. kii; 19. jin; 20. rko; 21. kasida; 22. friali; 23. tirifi; 24.
ajika; 25. roberto; 26. isani; 27. korpi; 28. no; 29. sofia; 30. klaseri; 31. aspiti; 32. boTe; 33. nasa; 34. go; 35. leptopi;
36. iordania; 37. pistoleti; 38. bolivia.
suraTebi: 1. frederik difentali; 2. sofi marso.
wina
nomris
skanvordis
pasuxebi
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i
Sevsebis wesi: upasuxeT krosvordSi dasmul
SekiTxvebs da pasuxebi Sesabamis grafaSi CawereT.
krosvordis sworad amoxsnis SemTxvevaSi gamuqebul ujredebSi qarTul andazas amoikiTxavT.
C. qalis grZeli, msubuqi mosasxami, muslimanur qveynebSi, romelic saxesac faravs; v. mamakacis potenciis asamaRlebeli preparati; e. mwvave
Sexla-Semoxla; n. qarTuli, satirul-iumoristuli Jurnali, romelic sabWoTa periodSi gamodioda; T. metsaxeli; a. qviTkiris samare; n.
CanCqeri CrdiloeT amerikaSi; e. atmosferuli
movlena; r. erTnaxadi susti arayi; T. daba aRmosavleT saqarTveloSi; a. ganTiadis qalRmerTi
romaul miTologiaSi (misi saxeli rusebma Tavis
droze erT murdal kreisers uwodes); d. moskovis safexburTo klub `spartakisa~ da sabWoTa
kavSiris nakrebis yofili mekare; a. zRvis talRebis zemoqmedebiT napiris ngreva-Carecxva; r.
qalaq madridis safexburTo klubi; a. meqanikuri
musikaluri sakravi. warmoadgens did yuTs, romelsac mxarze RvediT ikideben da taris trialiT
ukraven; s. krebulSi, Jurnalsa an gazeTSi moT-
o
d
e
s
i
w
y
e
n
e
n
m
e
n
i
m
s
J
q
i
avsebuli mcire moculobis publicisturi an mecnieruli nawarmoebi; o. norvegiis dedaqalaqi; d.
xani, Jami; e. mcenare an cxoveli, romelic gavrcelebulia mxolod garkveul geografiul arealSi; s. patara TevzsaWeri gemi; i. uranosi _ gea,
kronosi _ rea, zevsi _ hera, iupiteri _ ?; w.
fexis wina nawili muxlidan koWamde; y. Tavissave
qonSi moxrakuli xorci xaxviT; e. ra erqva hemingueis; n. ra erqva leninis cols; e. saeklesioadministraciuli erTeuli, romelsac ganagebs
episkoposi; n. qarTuli xalxuri antibiotiki.
wina
nomerSi gamoqveynebuli
krosvordis pasuxebi:
pasuxebi: g. gabelia; a. agutini; e. ebraeli; r.
riTma; T. Teirani; e. endro; d. dialogi; a.
asmaTi; d. diogene; a. amerika; i. indoeTi; s.
slalomi; v. vendeta; e. etiketi; n. namqeri; e.
etaloni; g. gambiti; z. zvaraki; a. anci; s.
soselo; T. TodaZe; a. avansi; n. narcisi; e. elCi;
r. rveuli; T. TibaTve; a. alarixi; d. dro.
gamuqebul ujredebSi ikiTxeba:
burTi da moedani mamacs darCebao.
iaponuri
sensacia
sudoku
`gzis~ wina nomerSi gamoqveynebuli
sudokus pasuxebi
*
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saSualo
***
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