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A CONVERSATION WITH SCOTT KING SCOTT KING interview Martin Hossbach archival photography Scott King portrait Ben McMahon THE TRAVEL ALMANAC THE TRAVEL ALMANAC 18 51 A CONVERSATION WITH SCOTT KING What was your favorite mode of transport when you were a kid? looking bloke outside Leeds train station, which I think he’d stolen and cut down to remove the frame number. That was only £80 but it was great really, the first scooter I had ‘on the road,’ when I was 16. It was a wreck as well, but it was quite fast … I home-painted that one too. I painted the word ‘Disillusion’ down the side in white Hammerite. Well, my mum always tells me that I was permanently glued to my red plastic racing car, not literally, but I used to spend all my time racing round on that, apparently. I don’t ever remember being excited about going on trains … I wasn’t one of those kids. My dad bought me my first motorbike when I was eight, and although I never went any further than the back field on it, I’d have to say that my bike, a Yamaha TY50, was my favorite mode of transport. What was next? Next was a Vespa P200E, I bought it from a well-known criminal in Goole, he needed money in a hurry so I got it for £100. It had a wheelbarrow tire on the back, totally deadly. I soon got rid of that one, but not before I’d customized it and made it worse. Then in August 1986 I bought a beautiful scooter, one I wish I’d kept all my life. It was called ‘Reflections’ and was famous in the Goole area. It had been built and painted by a bloke called Ozzy, an engineer who actually knew what he was doing—very rare in those days. It was a Lambretta GP200, Stage 4 tuned with a 30 mm Dell’Orto carb and DJ pipe, so it was very fast for its time. It was painted in candy apple purple and silver, with a lot of chrome. By the time I got it, it had seen better days; the paint was fading and the chrome was peeling but I loved it. I used to spend my whole life polishing it, which only adding to my dad’s suspicions, especially as I got my hair streaked around this time. I had to wait until my 17th birthday to ride it legally, so I had three long months of just cleaning it and admiring it in the garage at When did you get your first scooter? Since the 1990s, Goole-born artist, graphic designer and author Scott King has been investigating image production, the imagistic and emblematic in popular culture—first as art director for i-D magazine and later as influential creative director for Sleazenation as well as designer of album covers for Pet Shop Boys, Suicide and Morrissey. He has exhibited his art works in museums and galleries all over the world and has published several books including ‘Anxiety & Depression,’ ‘Anish & Antony Take Afghanistan’ as well as the monograph ‘Art Works.’ He loves Dr. Feelgood, The Jam and Sleaford Mods, and is Professor of Visual Communication at University of the Arts, London. For The Travel Almanac he takes us to Northwest England to revisit the motorbikes and scooterboys of his youth, and to marvel at the decaying monument to British industrialism that is Blackpool Tower. When I was 14. I pestered my dad to buy it for me. He loves motorbikes and was openly worried that I might be turning into ‘one of them,’ as he put it, because I wanted a Lambretta. My dad has always equated scooters with homosexuality; he calls them ‘hairdryers.’ Anyway the first one I got was a J125 which cost £145, quite a lot in 1984. It was rubbish. The J Range Lambrettas are a complete no-no for anyone who knows about scooters, but of course I didn’t, I only knew I wanted a Lambretta. I used to paint it once a month, always trying to make it look better, but it just got worse and worse … by the time I’d finished it looked like a meltdown at the aerosol factory. I eventually managed to flog it to a lad in my class, Daz Hobson, for £150. I felt sorry for him as he rode it away. After that I bought a cut-down Vespa 90 from a dubious THE TRAVEL ALMANAC THE TRAVEL ALMANAC 20 21 A CONVERSATION WITH SCOTT KING fashion or music. It was the northern tradition to make these scooters faster, strip them down and make them loud. So the first scooterboys I remember, around 1979, were the Goole Gladiators Scooter Club. A lot of them were Leeds United fans, so they were really more akin to what everyone now knows as ‘casuals’ than Mods. As the ’80s progressed the scooterboy attitude or approach spread across the UK (and further) and began to incorporate all sorts of sub-sub-cultures. So by 1985, scooterboys might also be rockabillys or psychobillys … there was no definitive look other than wearing what was practical for riding a scooter over long distances. But the scooterboys I always looked up to as a kid were the ones that were more ‘townie’ or just ‘lads’ really … scooter and football and Jam fans. Ian Brown and Mani from The Stone Roses were big scooterboys, you can see that in them and hear it in their first LP, I think. home. On 23 November 1986, a freezing cold Sunday morning, I got up at 6 am and rode the scooter into Goole, and as I rode across the bumpy level-crossing in town, both side panels fell off and skidded backwards down the road. I was nearly in tears as I picked them up. They were ruined. It was a valuable lesson though, one I’ve never forgotten: owning a Lambretta is a heartbreaking business. Did you manipulate the scooters to make them go faster? We all did. I’m a useless mechanic, so my skills never really extended beyond polishing the paintwork, but there were loads of kids in Goole who believed themselves to be ace Lambretta tuners—self-appointed shed-based geniuses—who were of course, not. I didn’t know anybody who had a Lambretta that would go for more than eight miles without exploding, usually because they’d tried to tune it themselves with an angle grinder, some rare parts from a vintage lawnmower and three rolls of gaffer tape. What made you buy a racing bike? I was brought up to love fast bikes. When I was very young, from about six to 12, my dad used to take us to Oliver’s Mount, the famous road racing circuit in Scarborough. I saw Barry Sheene, Mick Grant, Wayne Gardner and other stars of the day racing and I loved it … just the smell, the noise and the speed of the bikes was incredible. For years I’d always wanted a sports bike, but either couldn’t afford one or was too scared to get one. The one I’d coveted since my teens was a Suzuki GSX-R 750. These were really What makes a boy a ‘scooterboy?’ Scooterboys, as they emerged when I was a kid, were really a northern English thing, often coming from backwater towns like Scunthorpe, Barnsley, Bury, Wakefield and all that. Scooterboys were not Mods, like they had down south. In the North there had always been scooterboys, and they were really bound together by a love of scooters, over managed to almost crash, then get lost, but I was definitively having it. The next day I took it for a ride out to Southend, and once it hit 9000 revs it just screamed and took off. On that first day I just couldn’t resist, I had to see how fast it would go, I was terrified but I had to do it. It was one of the best things I’ve ever done; getting on that bike on a sunny day and hitting top speed along an empty dual-carriageway. A prison offence I think, but it was worth it. With bikes, people either love them or are scared of them. As a kid I have a clear memory of being in the car with my mum and dad, the first and still arguably the best ‘street sports’ bikes. Ash L’Ange, one of the directors of my gallery Herald St, told me in 2006 that he planned to sell his bike. It was a Suzuki GSX-R 600 … I just had to buy it. I knew I’d never get a better chance to own one and so I pestered Ash about it and got it at a bargain price. When I went to collect it from his house in Fulham, it was stuck in a dilapidated garage and was covered with a sheet, sort of left to rot, but it was so beautiful. I fell in love with it straight away. He suggested I take it for a test drive so I rode it around the block and somehow THE TRAVEL ALMANAC THE TRAVEL ALMANAC 42 43 A CONVERSATION WITH SCOTT KING “I have a clear memory of going to the coast with my parents, and lines of bikes roaring past us ... and where most parents would tut or shout ‘bloody idiots!’ my dad would cheer and punch the air.” Scotland, so I decided to go to see them in Blackpool, spend some time with the band in a place that wasn’t a trendy part of London, and where I thought they’d make more sense. maybe going to the coast, and lines of bikes roaring past us as we traveled at maybe 60 mph, they’d come past at 100, 120 … and where most parents would tut or shout ‘bloody idiots!’ my dad would cheer and punch the air, until my mum told him to put both hands on the steering wheel and look where he was going. So my love of fast bikes is genetic, it seems. What was your first impression of Blackpool? It’s a very strange place, the second poorest town in Britain after Hull, with this odd mix of rundown alcoholic misery and neon seaside fun. I was so excited about going there I went two days early, which in retrospect was perhaps a mistake. What do you do in Blackpool for two days alone? I set myself the task of wandering the streets and photographing its misery; the problem was, all my photographs were predictable sub-Morrissey clichés of sad northern poverty. They were terrible. Then on the third day I started to think about Blackpool Tower. I’ve made a lot of work about public art and how governments, in the hope of ‘regenerating’ rundown or post-industrial areas, deploy it. It struck me that this half-sized copy of the Eiffel Tower, built by local industrialists in the 1890s, was perhaps a similar example of utilizing a monument in order to create ‘place’—that is, in the same way that Antony Gormley’s ‘Angel of the North’ created a sense of place for Gateshead, so the tower created as sense of destination or place for Blackpool. It became a For your work ‘Study of Blackpool Tower’ which I recently saw at Wolfgang Tillmans’ Berlin gallery Between Bridges, you took photos of the Blackpool Tower from different angles with your phone. Do you often make site- or city-specific work? I think I’ve done quite a lot of work about particular places, about incidents or memories of a place. But ‘Study of Blackpool Tower’ was different. I sometimes think ‘creativity’ is a bi-product of boredom, and that was certainly the case with this work. I first heard the then little-known band Sleaford Mods in late August 2013 and I fell in love with them, so I forced Arena Homme+ magazine to let me write an article about the band. I interviewed them after a gig in Shoreditch and tried to write my article, but it was crap, so I needed another plan. In December 2013 they did a short tour of the North and THE TRAVEL ALMANAC THE TRAVEL ALMANAC 44 45 A CONVERSATION WITH SCOTT KING THE TRAVEL ALMANAC THE TRAVEL ALMANAC 49 48 A CONVERSATION WITH SCOTT KING A CONVERSATION WITH “Blackpool was essentially invented by Victorian factory owners as the ‘go-to’ resort for their workers to spend one week each year and, well, go mad." lucky enough to find yourself in Berlin, New York or Paris, where you always know someone, where you’re never alone for long … or you might find yourself alone in remote and strange places … so you become an expert on places that you would probably never dream of visiting. I know every bar in Dunkirk, for example, and not by choice. beacon of positivity for the town. Blackpool was essentially invented by Victorian factory owners as the ‘go-to’ resort for their workers to spend one week each year and, well, go mad. It’s a ‘fun town’ that the working classes have visited for almost 150 years in order to get drunk, have fights, have casual sex and enjoy themselves. So by night it’s a magical place, but by day it’s pretty miserable. I wanted to both document the tower, its complete dominance of the landscape and also the daylight misery that surrounds it. I wanted to photograph the surrounding chip shop terraces, just as I had with my Morrissey snaps, but this time with the central motif always being the tower at the same size and in the same position, thus dictating the composition of the photograph and forcing me to objectively document the streets that surround the tower. Making this work took me about four hours. I loved doing it, and I would never have made it if I hadn’t been alone with a lot of time on my hands. Once I’d finished it I then went to the pub to celebrate. It was a great day, though the band arrived very late and my interview with them largely consisted of me slurring. You visit Berlin quite often. There you recently worked on your ‘Festival of Stuff ’ show for Berliner Festspiele’s ‘Foreign Affairs’ theatre festival, and the visual identities for an internet music show called ‘The One-Hit Parade’ and the music festival ‘Pop-Kultur’ at Berghain. You said that you’d hate it becoming ‘normal’ for you. What do you like about Berlin? Well, I love Berlin. I miss it as soon as I leave. I’ve got into this strange ritual every time I take the train back to Schönefeld airport. I always turn the wrong way in the tunnel between the train station and the airport – there’s a dirt track at the ‘wrong’ side and I go there to think for five minutes and take a photograph of the track. I really don’t like leaving Berlin at all. It’s a sort of special place for me and my girlfriend, and I’m lucky to have a lot of friends there. Also I almost always stay in this amazing apartment … so my version of Berlin is Do you like traveling alone? Yes, I think it’s one of the great privileges of having exhibitions. You might be SCOTT KING how much I’ve drank. You know, after a certain amount of booze getting on a bus or a tube just isn’t an option, is it? In fact, moving at all becomes very unattractive. But I’ve not been drinking recently so I’ve been using the bus a lot. Not only that, last week I even bought a bicycle … Ich bin ein Berliner. w very privileged. What I like about it is very obvious I think, it doesn’t have the draining intensity of London, people seem much happier in Berlin, I don’t know, I can only talk about it in clichés. With London, for a long time I didn’t like it. I just felt I had to be here to do the kind of work I wanted to do. I used to dream of moving to Kent and having an easier, cheaper, quieter life … but it was just a fantasy. I’d be lost without London. The only other place I’d really like to live is New York, though I suspect I never will. Your girlfriend's family has a house at the seaside, which you often travel to. Would you call that a holiday? Well it’s in Whitstable, which is one of the ‘go-to’ places now for middle-class types from London, a sort of low-rent Hamptons. But it’s great there. The house that my mother-in-law owns is right on the beach so yes, it’s definitely a holiday. I hate leaving there too, I drag my feet all the way to the train station. Sometimes I burst into tears and lie on the floor in a star shape crying hysterically, refusing to move, like toddlers do in supermarkets. You like taking cabs but your knowledge of the London public transport system is quite thorough. Are there certain times during the day where you prefer the cab? When’s ‘cab time’? Well, I’ve been good recently. My excessive use of cabs is a direct reflection of THE TRAVEL ALMANAC THE TRAVEL ALMANAC 46 45