Journal - North West Kent Family History Society

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NORTH WEST KE NT
FAMILY HISTORY
Farningham Church Ch oir c 1934 ( see page
)
Vol9 No 2
June 2001
NORTH WEST KENT FAM ILY HISTORY SOCIETY
Founded 1978
Registered Charity No.28262 7
Member of the Federation of Family History Societies
PRESIDENT
June. Biggs
VICE PRESIDENTS : Jean Stirk, Stella Szachnowski , Guy Nevill, David Cufley,
Susan Pittman, Joan Field & Joyce Hoad.
COMMITTEE
Chairman:
Waiter Eves, 11 Cliftonvi lle Ave .,Cliftonville, Kent, CT9 2AJ
Vice Chairman:
Treasurer:
Bob Woodward, 25 St Francis Ave, Gravesend , DA12 4SY
Stella Rhys , 6 Winderm ere Road, Bexleyheath, Kent DA7 6PW
Secreta ry :
Stella Baggaley, Saddlers House, High St, Farn ingham , DA4 DOT
Journ al Editor:
Computer Branch Ted Connell ,11 0 Manor Forstal , New Ash Green , DA3 8JQ
Tape Library :
Post Vacant
Exchange Journals:Bob Woodward ( see above)
Libraria n:
Audrey Rainer, 82 Plantation Road, Hextable, Swanley, BR8 7S8
Post Vacant
Publicity:
Minutes Sec
Audrey Rainer, (see above)
Brian Waymnnt,2 Lawrence Hill Gnds,Dartford, DA1 3AP
Projects :
Publications:
Maureen Fearn, 1a Knoll Road, Sidcup, DA14 4QT
Ron Anthon Y,2 Perry House,Chislehurst Rd ,Sidcup, DA14 6BE
Bromley rep:
Dartford rep :
Vera Bai ley, 58 Carendon Gdns, Stone, Dartford , DA2 6EZ
Sevenoaks rep : Lynn Marsh,25 Broomfield Road, Sevenoa ks, TN13 3EL
THE OBJECTIVES of the Society are to encourage and aid the study of family
history, genealogy and heraldry in S.E. London and N.W. Kent.
MEMBERSHIP of the Society costs £8.00 per year (individual) ;£10.00 for fa mily
membership (two or more persons at the same add ress receiving one copy of the
Journal). The subscription year is 1st January to 31st December. Four journals are
issued per year, March , Ju ne, Septe mber and December.
MEMBERSHIP ENQUIRIES should be sent to the Members hip Secretary: Bob
Woodward ( address above)
MEMBERSHIP REN EWALS should be sent to Mrs Maureen Griffiths, 30 Bladindon
Drive, Bexley Kent DA5 3BP
GENERAL CORRESPON DENCE on Society matters should be addressed to the
Secretary (address above).
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NORTH WEST KENT FAMI LY HISTORY
Vol 9, No 2 June
2001
Editor Stella Baggaley, Saddlers House, High St, Farningham , DA40DT
CONTE NTS
From the Editors Desk
Stella Baggaley
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Josephine Birchenough Award
June Biggs
51
Carried Out
Jennifer Holmes
52
Ice Cream Tub or more of the Myatts
Brenda Payne
54
It's Worth a Try
June Biggs
56
Danson House, Welling Conservation Plan (Pt 1)
David Cufley
60
Memoirs of a Centenarian
Sue Whitworth
64
Sweet FA and the 1881 Census
Jane Hurst
67
A Wartime Childhood
Ann Dyer
69
Misleading Certificates
Dennis Easy
70
I n Sea rch of Kate
Jennifer Hanney
71
Was your Ancestor at Rotherhithe Docks in 1891·7
Ken Kirkden
73
Josephine Birchenough's Slip Indexes
Oavid Cufley
74
Accounts
Bob Woodward
78
Society Matters
79
****** FUTURE PROGRAMME ******
A ll members are welcome at any of the venues.
BROMLEY
July 20
Birth & Baptism in the 1800's Tom Doig
NO MEETING
Aug
Sept
TBA
Meetings will be held at Bromley Civic Centre, Rochester Ave , Bromley, Kent and the
doors are open from 7.15pm. Why not allow plenty of time to browse at the Bookstall
and in the Society's Library before and after the talk, which norrnally begins at 8.00pm.
We are open until 10.00pm .
DARTFORD
July 7
A ug 4
Missing Links
Eric Probert
Preservation , Conservation & Restoration
of documents/photographs etc
John Mumford
Geoff Swinfield
Sept 27
History of Woodlands Farm
Meetings will be held at Oartford Grammar School for Girls , Shepherds Lane, Dartford
and start at 10.30am . The hall will be open from 1Oam to 12.30pm. Please come early if
yo u are seeking help with your family history.
SEVENOAKS
July 26
Do you really want to know your ancestors
John & Beryl Hurley
Aug
NO MEETING
September
The Happiest Days Ron Cox
Meetings will be held at Sevenoaks Community Social Club, Otford Road, Sevenoaks
and start at 8pm. The Library and Bookstall will be open from 7pm so do come early if
you can.
COMPUTER BRANCH
July 3
Family Search on the Internet
August 7
WW1 Soldiers CD Rom demo + 1851 Tri County Census etc
September
The master Genealogist
Paul Featherstone
Meetings will be held at The Small Hall , Crofton Halls Orpington 7.45pm - 10.15pm
£1 .50 admission please try and bring the correct change.
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FROM THE EDITORS DESK
A big than ks you to all those of you who sent in articles for the
journal. I still have a stock of wartime memories that I shall use gradually
and June Biggs has set out a new challenge for you to rise to, see the
article below. You never know you could end up with an award for the best
article. Please don't think that your article has been rejected it is in the file
awaiting publication.
I have decided that it is time for me to lay aside my 'pen' and my
last journal will be the December 2002 edition . If anyone comes forward
before that with a burn ing desire to take over I should be delighted to give
them my help and support. I knew nothing about editing when I took over so
don't think that you can't do it, anyone can . Al l you need is a computer and
the willingness to learn how to use it.
I am sure like me yo u are all fed up with the perpetual rain! ! Let's
hope that we get some pleasant summer weather over the next few
months. Enjoy this Journ al and good luck with all your research.
The Editor
LIVE AND LET DIE
Annette Legg
Does it come as a shock to other members of Family History
Societies to realise that not everyone is an enth usiast for family history? I
cou nt myself fortunate to have some lovely Victorian portrait and wedding
photographs which I have proudly on display. I was therefore taken aback
recently when my sister in law whom I see infrequently visited and said in a
loud voice in front of other guests ."W hat have you got photos of all these
people around for? I wou ld not want people looking at me, it is gruesome." I
am afraid I was left speech less, but then to explain my passion would have
taken forever!
Annette Legg, 57 Croft A ve, West Wickham Ken t BR4 OQH
ANNETTE.L EGG@tin vworld.co.uk
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JOSE'HINE BlRCHENOUGH AWARD
After the death of Josephine, who was a Family History Teacher and a
Founder member of this Society, many members made donations in her memory.
Originally we set up an annual Bursary for a member who was carrying
out some research or project which fulfilled the objects of the Society. No
applications were received for the year 2000 and there does not appear to be a
requ irement for a Bursary.
The President's Panel have considered how best we could utilise the
money to further the aims and ideals of Josephine, who was always ready to help,
advise and encourage Family Historians. We therefore decided that we would like
to offer a prize or prizes each year for articles in our Journal which help, encourage
and widen the horizons of the readers in their research.
The criteria wou ld be:An interesting story, well written, which shows how the readers might tackle
their own research problems. i.e.
•
Show the way the research was approached,
•
What sources were used, with class and reference numbers, if possible
and where they can be found.
.
•
How the information found was confirmed
•
How problems were overcome.
A simple family tree to clarify relationships. Illustrations, if available add interest.
It will not be possible to apply these criteria in retrospect for 2000, or 2001
(as we are halfway through this year) but rather than wait until 2002 before utilising
this award we have decided to make an award for 2000.
Although we did not feel that any article last year fully met the criteria, we
have chosen one which shows how important and useful it is to put one's
ancestors into the context of their background and the community around them,
demonstrating the influence that context had on their lives.
We are, therefore, awarding a prize of £25 to Tessa Leeds for her article "The
Railway Navvy" which appeared in the September 2000 issue.
June Biggs President
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CA RRIED OUT
Jennife r Holmes
Burial registers record the burials in that parish, don't they? Well,
no, not always. Sometimes they reco rd the export of a body for burial
elsewhere. What emerges from the burial registers for the years 1800-1812
of the former Kent parishes now in London is th at the tran sport of corpses
from one parish to another for burial was routine and that the event,
together with other useful information, would often be recorded in the
registers of both parishes.
Most carryings out, as th ey were termed, were relatively local,
freq uently to the next parish. But movement between the ex-Kent area and
other Kent or Surrey parishes or indeed central London was not unusual
with some bodies being brought from as far away as Bath , Southampton,
Tonbridge, Canterbury or Dover and taken to Sevenoaks or Leicestershire.
Some entries merely have the unhelpful comment 'carried out' without any
indication of the parish of burial. A burial index can sometimes provide the
answer, as for exam ple with Thomas BRADBURY, a gent, carried out from
Greenwich, destination un-stated, in January 1802 , since the next entry in
the Ex-Kent Burial Index records his burial in Deptford St Nicholas.
Where both the exporting and importing parishes fall with in th e exKent area it has been possible to compare the entries. In relatively few
cases is there an entry for the parish of death but not of burial. Most of the
missing burial entries seem to be in Beckenham, like th e one expected for
George WEBj3 aged 78 who is alleged by the Bromley register to have
been buried at Beckenham after dying in the Workhouse in Ju ly 1802 ; this
suggests unreliable record-keeping (though some entries have been lost
because of damage to the Beckenham registers). But there are many
instances where the parish of burial notes th at the deceased died
elsewhere but the parish of death has no entry for the export of the body. A
typical example is that of Sarah FRITH aged 55 who was brought from
Woolwich to Plumstead for burial in January 1806: there is no mention of
her in the Woolwich registe r.
Most interesting are the cases where both parishes record the
event. Normally the parish of burial is the more informative, but thi s is not
always so. For instance Dorothy GEORGE was buried in Woolwich on 9
October 1807, the burial entry mentioning that she was brou ght in from
Greenwich . The Greenwich entry (oddly enough for 10 October) reco rd s
September 1811 ; the Lee register entry for the same date notes the buria l
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in a vault of Mrs Harriet BOONE from Freelands House, Bromley, but does
not mention her age. Whereas the Hayes reg ister records the burial on
9 February 1806 of Wm MATTHEWS aged 80 without further comment,
the Bromley entry for that date shows William MATTHEWS being carried to
Hayes with the additional inform ation that he died of smallpox. And while
the parish clerk of Orpington records that Mary STILES aged 68 who was
buried there in January 1807 died suddenly, his opposite number in
Brom ley notes that she was carried to Orpington with the invaluable
genealogical ad dition that she was 'mother to Charles CUTBUSH's wife'.
Compa rison between two register entries may reveal
inconsistencies between them. For instance John PORTER, who died in
July 1807 in Bromley and was buried in Orpington, was recorded in
Brom ley register as 21 but in Orpi ngton as 32. And the recording of names
may vary widely between parishes: Ann IMMANNEY, as the Bromley
register describes her, a 54-year-old gentlewoman, was carried to
Lewisham where, now described as a 49-year-old from Plaistow Bromley,
she was buried on 3 October 1801 as Ann OMMANEY (to be joined some
10 years later by Edward OMMAN NEY aged 77 from Bloomsbury Square).
W here a parish register uses the words 'carried to' or 'brought
from', there is no doubt that the place of burial is not the same as the place
of death, but in other cases the wording can be ambiguous. However there
appears to be a subtle distinction between the deceased being of another
place, ie resident or with settlement elsewhere, and coming from
somewhere, indicating physical transport of the body. Although this
interpretation may not apply in every case it nevertheless seems to offer a
usefu l rule of th umb. So Helen GREEN aged 70 buried in Plumstead in May
1807 is recorded as 'from Woolwich', and the Woolwich register confirms
that she was taken to Plumstead for burial. In contrast the same Plumstead
registe r refers to young Louisa WITTMAN as 'of the Parish of Woolwich'the difference in wording appears to be significant.
The custom of burying members of a family in what went on being
regarded as the 'home' parish sometimes continu ed for many years and
hence burial entries can be as useful as census returns for indicating the
movement of a family from parish to parish. For example, five people with
the surname JOSEPH, ages ran ging from infant to 55 years, were buried in
East W ickham between 1801 and 1807 but none of them seem to have
died in the parish: two we re brought from Southwark, one from Newington,
one, it seems, from St Leonard's Shoreditch and one from St Georges in
the Borough (also Southwark).
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The lesson from all this is clear - where there is any indication.
however uncertain that the deceased's death and burial may have taken
place in different parishes, always check the burial registers for both
parishes as either may provide useful extra details. Where an index is
available, use it -but if full register information is not included, then go back
to the original entries. You may find that extra little titbit of information that
makes all the difference to your research.
For details of the Ex-Kent Burial Index 1800- 1812 send an SAE to Mrs
Jennifer Holmes, ]7 Beadon Road, Bromley, Kent BR2 gAS or email
jenniferholmes@mailcom
THE ICE CREA M TUB OR MORE OF THE MYATTS.
Brenda Payne neeSkinner
It is now almost twelve years since the journal printed my article on
my gr.gr.gr. grandfather Joseph MYATT {Sept. 1989 VoI.5.no.3} Joseph
had been quite a well known market gardener and horticulturalist in the first
part of the 19thC specialising in raising new varieties of strawberries and
rhubarb working in Deptford and Camberwell.
I had been
much I had been able
the
family
and
help I had received
Lewisham
Local
really thought I had
subject, but that was
amazed at how
to find out about
especially with the
from
the
History Centre. I
exhausted
that
not so.
In the very hot summer of 1990 and while staying with friends in
Cambridge ,I visited Kentwell Hall in Suffolk. Whilst coming down a spiral
staircase I spotted an empty plastic ice cream tUb, with the wording "Myatt's
Country Fresh Ices" on the lid. I went immediately to the tea room, but they
didn't sell ices, and they had never heard of the Myatts.
On returning home I wrote to the address on the lid, and back
came a most interesting letter from the mother of the young man who ran a
dairy farm and the ice cream business. She told me that her husband's
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family came from the potteries but they were not sure if they were in any
way connected with my MYATTS. However she had been contacted before,
and was able to give me two addresses.
I wrote to both, the first was in W .Australia. I had previously found
out that Joseph's eldest son James and his wife Sarah had had a large
family, six boys and six girls born between 1831 and 1852. All twelve
children survived to adu lthood and were baptised at St Mark's Kennington .
Soon after Joseph's death in 1855, James and Sarah and quite a few of
their children moved to Offenham near Evesham . What I did not know, and
my correspondent was able to tell me that the fifth son Frank, had
emigrated to Australia in 1906, and had been very successful in growing
oranges. My correspondent's mother in law is a grand daughter of this
Frank MYATT. He had done quite a lot of research into the family and was
able to send me photo copies of newspaper articles from a long way back
describing James' work in Evesham I also received a photo of the farm in
Camberwell and was pu t in touch with an elderly relative {a cousin of his
mother in law} who had supplied quite a lot of the information. He knew
nothing at all about my branch of the family, descended from Joseph's
daughter Eliza by his second wife So all in all we were able to swap a lot of
information and he was thrilled to receive from me, photos of the portrait of
Joseph ,and the family vault in Nunhead Cemetery .
The other correspondent whose address was in Hertfordshire did
not know much about his family, but he had bought an ice cream because
of the name. His name was also MYATT. He said that his father had told
him that he had a gr.uncle after whom a potato was named! This must
surely be James MYATT of Offenham who raised the "Myatt's Ashleaf
Potato" . I have researched this man's father and corresponded some years
ago with his sister, but I have come across the biggest stumbling block in
all my research. Their grandfather Joseph Henry MYATT {on his second
marriage certificate } stated that his father was Joseph MYATT market
gardener, and on the 1891 census that he was born in Deptford. This points
to Joseph MYATT 1821-1858 brother to my gr.gr. grandmother Eliza. His
birth does not appear to have been registered, and I have found no
marriage certificate for his alleged father who died in 1858 and is buried in
the previously mentioned family vault in Nunhead Cemetery .1 have been
unable to find him in the 1881 Census, yet his two year old daughter was
living with an aunt in Deptford.
I have been trying to sort out this last problem for several years
now and I shall go on trying as I don't like loose ends. I feel there has been
a big cover-up somewhere! However my main reason for writing this is to
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show how important it is to follow up the sm allest clue. Whoever would
have thought th at so much information would have come from a discarded
ice cream tub!
Brenda Payne, Myatt Cottage, Angley Road, Cranbrook Kent, TN173LR
ITS WORTH A TRY
June Blggs
When searching one often comes across a document which looks
unpromising and not worth spending time looking through, but sometimes
can provide information to fill in the background of our ancestor's lives. Two
such sources, which I tried, I detail below.
In Bromley Local Studies Library on the open shelves are a series
of printed Min utes of the Lewisham Board of Works. Having ancestors in
Lewish am in the late 19th century I decided to look through these.
Not surprisingly they did not make riveting reading but being printed
these could be skim med th roug h fairly quickly, with the hope that a likely
name or place would leap to my eyes . Sure enough the name 'Lewis Grove'
appeared. This was where my Gt Grandparents John & Mary BIGGS had
their beer shop "The Greyhound", carried on after John's death by Mary
and her second husband George STUBBS.
At a Board Meeting on 4th June, 1874, attention was called to the
footpath in Lewis Grove, Lewisham and the Board resolved to refer the
matter to the Blackheath & Lewisham Local Committee. They acted swiftly
and their report dated 9th June, was not only on the state of the road but
suggested th at th e attention of the Police be called to the obstruction in the
road by carts & barrows. The occupiers had also written to the Board
complaining of the footpath and it was resolved to inform them of the
proceedings of the Board on the subject. By the following month a further
report advised th at the Surveyor had subm itted an estimate of the cost of
asphalt & tarpaving wo rk ordered to date -1 56 yards @ 2s (10p) per yard a
total cost of £15.12s (£1 5.60) He recommended that the footpath should be
laid with Rock Asphalt instead of Tar Pavement, thus increasing the cost to
£42.18s (£42.90) . The Biggs family must have regarded all this activity with
great interest and be pleased with the improvement to their surroundings.
The followi ng year the advantages of the improvement were
evident as on the 11th August, 1875 the surveyor reported "that the storm
on the 7th inst. had caused a great deal of damage in the district. .. ... ... .
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that it had commenced in Lewisham about 2 o'clock pm continui ng about
an hour ...... .that during the storm in 1867 the ra infall was 3 inches in eight
hours, but on Saturday was more than 1 inch in less than one hour. Th e
inhabitants of Lewis Grove must have been glad that they no longer were
faced with a sea of mud in the street outside their houses.
Planning permission for extensions is nothing new. In 1878, Vin ey's
the bakers next door to the beershop decided to have an extension built
and local builder, J.W .S. BENJAMIN applied to the Board for planning
permission . A comparison of the details of the street from a map of C1 18637(1) with that of 1894(2) shows that permission was gra nted.
The other unpromising source I used was entitled "Report by the
Medical Officer on An Outbreak of Diptheria at Lewisham in 1896 and its
alleged connection with the Lewisham Bridge Board School." The Report
had been produced because of widespread concern . The Ke ntish Mercury,
issue of 2nd October reported that there were upwards of fifty cases with a
number of deaths and some parents were keeping their ch ildren away from
the School for fear of the infection. Despite public alarm the School Board
refused to close the school.
(2) 1894 Ordnance Survey
(1) 1863-7Map
Details showing the Bakers Shop in Lewis Grove
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(3) Detail from 1894 Ordnance Survey Map showing the proximity of 66 Mill
Road to Lewisham Board School.
The following week the epidemic had not abated an d was more
serious than in any other part of London . The Board still refused to close
the School but over 500 children , about half the nu mber on the school roll,
were being kept away by their parents. 19 children had already died, who
had lived in the streets im mediately in the neighbourhood of Lewisham
Bridge School.
Although the Report made dull read ing, no names being
mentioned, there was at the end a chronological table noting the addresses
of the patients. As I looked down the list I spotted 66 Mill Road. This was
where my grandparents Jesse Kenworthy BIGGS & his wife Fan ny lived
with their family.
"September 27. 66 Mill Road. Female aged 4. Lewis ham
Bridge Infants. Last attendance at school September 28. No
other cases at school. Only one case at home."
The detail from the 1863-7 Map ( 3) shows the proximity of Mill
Road to the Lewisham Board School. When put this information into the
context of the family, I found that this had been a tra umatic ti me for them .
Grandfather Jesse BIGGS was in the terminal stages of tuberculosis. He
was a farrier, not a very good occupation for someone suffering from TB,
with the constant changes from the heat of the fire to th e colder air outside.
Fanny must have been very worried when she heard of th e
outbreak of diphtheria in the area with 4 children at home, Rose 16, Jesse
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14, Harry (my fa ther) 12 and th e baby Nell 4. Nell came home from school
feveris h and with a painful and swollen th roat and the doctor confirmed
Fan nv's worst fears. Becau se of the pressure on the local hospitals, Nell
would have had to be nursed at home and Fanny must have been at her
wits' end nursing her dying husband and her sick chi ld and fearing that the
other children wou ld go down with the disease. On October 4th space was
fou nd for the diphtheria patients in the Cottage Hospital. W hat agony Jesse
must have suffered when Nell, the baby of the family and surely the apple
or her father's eye, was taken away and he knew he would never see her
again.
Mercifully none of the oth er ch ildren ca ught the disease. Jesse died
on the 8th October at the age of 37 and Fanny was left a widow with four
children . Nell recovered from diphtheria and came home from hospital to
find her much loved fathe r dead and buried; how she must have wondered
what dreadful thing she must have done to deserve this.
I hope I have shown how by looking at an unpromising source,
taking the bare facts and putting them into the context of the family history
and using a little imagination , even the most unlikely records ca n serve to
illustrate the lives of our ancestors. As Tessa Leeds so rightly said in her
article in the March 2000 Journal , Fa mily History is more tha n a Name and
a list of Dates.
SOURCES
Min utes of th e Lewisham Board of Works . Bromley Local Studies Library.
1863-7 Map of Lewisham . Lewisham Local History Centre.
1894 Ord nance Survey Map. Published by Alan Godfrey Maps.
Re port by The Medical Office on an Outbreak of Diptheria at Lewisham in 1896. Metropolitan
London Archives. Ref: 1464.
Kentish Mercury. Issues October 2nd, 9th, 30th an d November 20th , 1896.
Lewisham Local History Centre
'HOTOGRA'H OF FARNINGHAM CHURCH CHOIR C 1934
( see front cover)
Mrs J Preston
The choir boy on the far left is Bernard BEST, the choir lady 'Tamsin' is to
the right of the Vicar and to her right is J FROST, DOODNEY and CROWHURST,
in a line going up. Above FROST is Bill HUMPHREYS and WEST is at the left
hand end of the row above BEST. Does anyone recognize any other person in the
photo? The BEST family lived in Sparepen ny Lane, Farningham.
Mrs J Preston 13 Tyler Grove Dartford, DA 1 5HQ
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DANSON HOUSE, WELLING CONSERVATION "LAN.
David Cufley
The Conservation Plan for Danson House is in the process of being
drawn up by ALAN BAXTER & ASSOCIATES on behalf of their client
ENGLISH HERITAGE and our Society have been invited to attend the
seminars to represent the members views on the draft plan . The plan has
been drawn up by Chris MIELE of the Con sulting Engineers Alan BAXTER
& Associates for the Major Projects Division of English Heritage lead by
their Danson Projects Director lan JARDIN.
As part of the plan there is a sum mary of the historical
development of the building, which lists th e people, who have been an
integral part in creating the house and affecting its history. It is felt that our
members would be interested in th is section of the plan. The historical
section of the draft plan is reproduced an d we wo uld like to thank Engl ish
Heritage's lan JARDIN and the consultant's Chris MIELE for allowi ng us to
reprint these sections. The original section and paragra ph numbers are
retained to aid anyone who wishes to consult the full document that will be
lodged with the Lon don Borough of Bexley's Library Service.
The plan notes (section 4.11) that Ruth HUTCH INSON'S fine little
guidebook to Danson is out of date and there is no illustrated guide that
presents the cultural significance of the building as it is now understood.
There are plans for a new and extended guide to be written. To assist with
its preparation Chris is seeking memories of people who have known and
used th e building. Perhaps you have happy memories of the Cafe and you
may have photographs taken around the building sh owing you and your
family with the house in the background. English Heritage have plans for an
exhibition to illustrate th e history of Danson House when it is handed back
to the LONDON BOROUGH OF BEXLEY and on to the BEXLEY
HERITAGE TRUST who wi ll manage and care for th e house. lan JARDIN
would also like to use some of these photographs for this exhibition. If you
can contribute to either of these proj ects an d would also like to have these
memories included in a future ed ition of our Journa l please can you send
the details and photographs firstly to the editor who wi ll pass them on to
Chris MIELE and lan JARDIN. Your letter shou ld include confirmation that
you own the copyright and grant permission for them and us to use the
memories and photographs.
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The Pla n.
2.0 Understanding
This section sets out the history of the house , from its construction in the
1760s to the time of writing (February 2001), as the program of works
undertaken by English Heritage enters its final phase. The history of the
estate prior to this, as well as a brief note on the site's archaeological
potential, are inclu ded in the Appendix to this plan.
Broadly there are four phases at Danson
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The Primary or 'Boyd' Phase, including the period of construction,
1762-66, down to 1806 when th e son of the builder sold the house
and estate TO JOHN JOHNSTON. ,
A nineteenth and early twentieth-century phase, during which time
two families occupied the house. The changes from this period are
relatively minor;
A third ph ase, which begins in 1923 when the local authority,
Bexley Urban District Council as it was then, took over the house
and estate for public use. This includes a brief period when the
house was once more in private ownership (the late 1980s);
A fourth period commencing in 1995, with the programme of
English Heritag e works. Sources and FUliher Information
English Heritage have prepared a detailed analysis of the history and fabric
of the building, 'Danson House: The Anatomy of a Georgian Villa' , which
stands as the second part of this conservation plan. Other principal sources
are indicated in the concluding section of the plan.
The Architect: ROBERT TAYLOR (171 4-1788)
Danson is a largely unaltered example of the work of Robert
T AYLOR, who was one of the most successful architects of his time, a
designer of great ability. His villas are especially admired for their clever
planning. Historically his clients, new-moneyed men with a background in
ban king and trade, constitute a distinct group with a particular interest in
building elegant suburban retreats. Danson is a perfect illustration of
Taylor's villa style, built for a client, John BOYD, who exemplified this new
class of patron. Architecturally TAYLOR followed the work of the English
Palladians, who, taking their name from the Italian architect Andrea
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PALLADIO, reinvigorated classical design in this co untry establishing a
vocabulary of form that would dominate British arch itectu re for more than a
century .TAYLOR is a lead ing second generation Palladian, the slightly
younger contemporary of Robert ADAM and William CHAMBERS. More
recently, since the 1970s, art and architectural historians have seen in his
work the seeds of later neo-classicism , making Taylor effectively into a
tran sitional fig ure, a link between Georgian classicism and the more
extreme forms of nineteenth-centu ry classicism.
Th at T AYLOR's name is not so we ll known as his is down to an
accident of history , th e loss of his office papers; architectural historians can
identify only a fraction of his output. Contemporary sources attest to his
output dwarfing the other architects of the day.
TAYLOR started not as an architect at all but as a sculptor, a craft
he took up under the influence of his father, who was a stonemason . In the
early 1740s the you ng TAYLOR went to Rome to study antiquity. On his
return there were comm issions for monuments and , more impressively, the
pediment sculpture of the Mansion House (1744 and following ), which
cemented the City credentials that wou ld prove so important in his later
career.
His earliest architectural works date to 1752-53, a series of houses,
villas and offices, mostly in Lond on and the Home Cou nties for merchants
and bankers. In 1769 he joined the Office of Works as on e of two principal
architects. In 1766 he became architect to the Bank of England . Danson is
one of his most important arch itectu ral works, along with its near
contemporary, Asgill House in Rich mond, but this does not survive as
completely and has a much less interesting plan. Purbrook House is
another important com mission, a co untry house, as is Stone Buildings of
1774-80 in Lincoln's Inn. TAYLOR was knig hted in 1782 when he was
elected Sheriff of London. There is a monument to him in the south
transept of Westminster Abbey.
2.2 HISTORICAL PHASES.
2.2.1 THE BOYD OR PRIMARY PHASE, 1762-1800
Danson House was built and decorated for John (fro m 1775 Si r
John) BOYD between 1762 and 1766. BOYD (171 8-1800) was the son of a
self made man . The family fo rtune came fro m sugar plantations in the West
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Indies. His father, Augustus BOYD, used these to establish a business as a
merchandise agent for fe llow sugar planters. John himself developed an
interest in the profi ta ble East India Company, serving on its Court of
Directors in the 1760s.
BOYD came to the estate in 1751 as a tenant on a repairing lease.
In 1759 he began to acqu ire freehold s aggressively, expanding the estate.
He obtained the site for the new house in 1761 and early the following year
succeeded in removing a legal restriction that prevented the rebuilding of
the house; TAYLOR's design probably, then, dates to 1762. There are no
architect's drawings or correspondence to shed any more light on the
build ing of the house.
Nor do we have any detailed information about its furnishing. We
do know, however, from two sale catalogues drawn up after BOYD's death,
that he had a very large collectio n of paintings . The only one to survive in
th e collection of th e local authority is th e very fi ne fam ily-house portrait of
1766 by George BARRETT Jr.
Changes in the Primary Phase and Danson Park
The Park was laid out in the 1760s and 1770s to a scheme drawn
up by Nathaniel RICHMOND, a follower and one-time assistant of the
famou s 'CAPABILI TY' BROWN. RIC HMOND's design, which is recorded in
a splendid pen-and-wash drawing in the local studies collection, was not
executed as intended, modified possibly on the advice of the Rev. Joseph
SPENCE, th e itinerant cleric-cum-garden designer who visited in 1763. Still,
the bon es of RICH MOND's plan were carried out, and its basic elements
can still be traced in the landscape today, most crucially the position of the
house on east-west ridge that runs th rough the park, commanding a fine
view overlooking the lake (RICHMO ND's) to the south.
Sometime around 1770 Sir William CHAMBERS, architect to
George Ill, designed the present marble chimneypieces and a few other
touches in the house, notably the scroll and urn pediment over the main
entrance. By 1787 the canted bays to the side elevations (east and west)
were raised to full height, by who is not known. Taylor's wings -which are
shown in plans published after the house was built -contained stables and
offices. They were connected to the house by curving quadrant walls"
Boyd's son , al so John , demolished these between 1802 and 1804, and
com missioned the prese nt stable block which reuses stone from the earlier
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offices. This was perhaps built to the designs of George DANCE the
Younger
An Orangery (now demolished) came at about the same time,
located to the southwest of the house and recorded on early maps. The
younger BOYD also changed the landscape, bringing trees closer to the
house and introducing a more pictu resque and sheltered treatment on its
north side.
( To be concluded in the September issue)
Submitted by David Cuf/ey
MEMOIRS OF A CENTENARIAN
Sue Whitworth
( Written by Sue's Great Uncle who emigrated to Australia aged 96)
I was born at Ingross Cottage Greenhythe Kent The first I recall
was living in Stanhope Road, Swancombe Kent. I went to Swancombe
board school, near Guns Farm. As I recall there were three of us at home.
Myself, sister Nellie and brother Charlie . Charlie worked at Raynors (oil and
colour merchants) in the high street Northfleet. My father worked in
Gravesend,(West Boat Builders, next to the Terrace Pier),Clarendon Road
area. He found a small house in Milton , Gravesend , 2 up and 2 down, very
small, outside toilet and outhouse. This cost 4 shillings per week with a
water stan dpipe for every 2 houses.
W e moved to number 4 Bru nswick Cottage, Gravesend about
1908. I remember moving by horse and cart. Mother gave me a penny to
buy a candle, which cost a halfpen ny, and I was to spend the other
halfpenny on myself. I rode on the ta ilboard of the cart, I don't remember
much more about that. The row of cottages we moved to, the front was
opposite the back gardens of Brunswick Road, and the back way was the
back of Prospect Place. The cottages are demolished now and an estate is
built in their place. The entrance to our row of cottages was from Albion
Terrace, through a small archway with rooms over the top belonging to the
shops in Albion Terrace. The other end came out in Brunswick Road, with
the pub on the corner called "Bru nswick Arms" We were about 5 minutes
walk to the canal basin and the canal , not far from the promenade, so we
were tucked between Prospect Place and Brunswick Road . I suppose in
our row of cottages there were about 24 to 30 cottages. At the entrance
from the bottom were a few shops, one a greengrocers bakers (Lewis's) a
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general shop (Fullers) and on the end the Phoen ix pu b wh ich is still there
and the rest pulled down and now an estate.
After getting sorted out with our new home, we found our way
round different places. After a whi le I went to Milton Road Board School,
(now pulled down). It is now a car sales place. This is near the church
where we were christened and married in. During my school days I use to
take fathers dinner to him at West Boat Builders during the school dinner
break. After a while father changed his job and worked nearer home on the
riverfront near the canal and he came home fo r din ner .
As kids, we made our own amusements. We still had no money
only the occasional halfpenny, or a penny but not often . We used to go to
the prom and watch the concert party run by "Driscall'" party. We stood
outside and watched it for free, but inside the enclosure they paid. It stood
where the cafe is now and the bandstand was opposite the entrance to the
Gorden Gardens. In later years we use to dance in the bandstand area it
cost 6pence each to go in
I remember as kids we used to take a bucket down to the canal
opPosite where they unloaded coal from the lighters. (it is still there today).
It was in a shute and sometimes it overloaded and some pieces of coal fell
to the ground. When the men took the coal away in a trolley we wou ld nip in
and fill the bucket before the men chased us away. The gasworks we were
near there where the coal was taken . Charlie my brother and sister Flo's
husband worked at the gasworks.
Father never bothered about us. We were always trusted to
mother, she was a good sort. She had very little money, although father
was never out of work. Most of his money was spent in the pubs, and when .
he was broke he put his debts on the plate and paid the m when he had the
money. When you read of the old days of poverty it was true, every word of
it. The youngsters of today have everything on a plate and believe me there
were times when we never even had a plate.
Well anyway, after a while, I suppose I was about 12 or 13,no it
was later than that, I got a Saturday job at the butchers shop on the high
street at 1 shilling and sixpence per day. A lon g day at that 8.00am until
1O.OOpm.We still lived in the cottages and Charlie still lived with us. Brother
Alf used to come home now and again, he worked on the water and went
away often. Frank (another brother) was in the army and was stationed at
Maidstone and went away to India.
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When I was 14 years old I got a full time job, as a shop boy in
Harmer Street. It was with greengrocers nearly opposite the Reporter
office. They were a nice family-Summers was their name. I used to take
orders out and after a while served in the shop. My wage was 6 shillings per
week, an average wage. Mother had 5 shillings and I had I shill ing . After
being there a while, I was given a horse and cart to take out orders over the
town. Then I went out with a van full up with fruit and veg, with one of th e
sons round the town and served customers. It took all day to go the rou nds.
By the way, I received 19 shillings and 5 pence for driving.
During the First World War, we saw the zeppelin raids and the two
that were brought down over the river in flames. Also one came over
Gravesend and we saw it very plain. It dropped small bombs in Brendon
Street.
When the First World War broke out I we nt to Henleys as a
teenager and worked long hours ( 12 hours a day) for about 10 shillings a
day. I got fed up with the job after awhile but I could not leave it being
wartime, but after worrying them they let me leave. I went to Hawley
Dartford in the munitions factory on 181bs shell s. After a whi le I left there
and got a job on the Gravesend trams. That was during the Zeppelin raids.
I was on the Windmill Street and Pelham Road routes. It cost 3/4penny on
Windmill Street and 1 penny on Pelham Road. These days that fare is 35p
(7 shillings). From Denton to Swanscombe it was 3 pence an d workmen
paid less.
There was no warning of the air raids, only all electricity was cut off,
so we stopped in the tram where we happened to be on the route and
waited for the electricity to be switched back on before we could carry on.
The passengers in the tram had to get off and walk while the conductor and
driver had to sit and wait. When the air raid was over the electriCity was
switched on and we made ou r way to the depot. This was at the back of the
pub near Ash road and Dover road . When on the last shift about 11. 00pm, I
had to walk home to Milton. When I was 17 I got a job at Bevan Works,
North fleet in the carpenters shop while the First World War was still going.
At 18yrs I was sent my call up papers. I was examined at Chatham for the
services but the firm I worked for stopped them, as I was an essential
worker so I did not have to join up.
About 1921 the works shut down and after working for them for 4
yrs I was out of a job along with the other workers. I had been earning
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general shop (Fullers) and on the end the Phoen ix pub which is still th ere
and the rest pulled down and now an estate.
After getting sorted out with our new home, we found our way
round different places. After a while I went to Milton Road Board Sch ool ,
(now pulled down). It is now a car sales place. This is near the church
where we were christened and married in. During my school days I use to
take fathers dinner to him at West Boat Builders during the school dinner
break. After a while father changed his job and worked nearer home on the
riverfront near the canal and he ca me home for dinner.
As kids, we made our own amusements. We still had no money
only the occasional halfpenny, or a penny but not often. We used to go to
the prom and watch the concert party run by "Driscall'" party. We stood
outside and watched it for free , but inside the enclosure they paid. It stood
where the cafe is now and the bandstand was opposite the entrance to the
Gorden Gardens. In later years we use to dance in the bandstand area it
cost 6pence each to go in
I remember as kids we used to take a bucket down to the canal
opposite where they unloaded coa l from the lighters. (it is still there today).
It was in a shute and sometimes it overloaded an d some pieces of coal fell
to the ground . When the men took the coal away in a trolley we would nip in
and fill the bucket before the men chased us away. The gasworks we were
near there where the coal was taken . Charlie my brother and sister Flo's
husband worked at the gasworks.
Father never bothered about us. We were always trusted to
mother, she was a good sort. She had very little money, although father
was never out of work. Most of his money was spent in the pubs, and when
he was broke he put his debts on the plate and paid them when he had the
money. When you read of the old days of poverty it was true, every word of
it. The youngsters of today have everything on a plate and believe me there
were times when we never even had a plate.
Well anyway, after a whi le, I suppose I was about 12 or 13,no it
was later than that, I got a Saturday job at the butchers shop on the high
street at 1 shilling and sixpence per day. A long day at that 8.00am until
10.00pm.We still lived in the cottages and Charlie still lived with us. Brother
Alf used to come home now and aga in, he worked on the water and went
away often . Frank (another brother) was in the army and was stationed at
Maidstone and went away to India.
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When I was 14 years old I got a full time job, as a shop boy in
Harmer Street. It was with greengrocers nearly opposite the Reporter
office. They were a nice family-Summers was their name. I used to take
orders out and after a while served in the shop. My wage was 6 shillings per
week, an average wage. Mother had 5 shillings and I had I shilling. After
being there a while, I was given a horse and cart to take out orders over the
town. Then I went out with a van full up with fruit and veg, with one of th e
sons round the town and served customers. It took all day to go the ro unds.
By the way, I received 19 shillings and 5 pence for driving.
During the First World Wa r, we saw the zeppelin raids and the two
that were brought down over the river in flames . Also one came over
Gravesend and we saw it very plain. It dropped small bombs in Brendon
Street.
When the First World War broke out I went to Henleys as a
teenager and worked long hours ( 12 hours a day) for about 10 shillings a
day. I got fed up with the job after awhile but I could not leave it being
wartime, but after worrying them they let me leave. I went to Hawley
Dartford in the munitions factory on 181bs shells. After a while I left there
and got a job on the Gravesend trams. That was during the Zeppelin raids.
I was on the Windmill Street and Pelham Road routes. It cost 3/4penny on
Windmill Street and 1 penny on Pelham Road. These days that fare is 35p
(7 shillings). From Denton to Swanscombe it was 3 pence and workmen
paid less.
There was no warning of the air raids, only all electricity was cut off,
so we stopped in the tram where we happened to be on the route and
waited for the electricity to be switched back on before we could ca rry on.
The passengers in the tram had to get off and wa lk wh ile the conductor and
driver had to sit and wait. When the air raid was over the electricity was
switched on and we made our way to the depot. This was at the back of the
pub near Ash road and Dover road . When on the last shift about 11.00pm, I
had to walk home to Milton. When I was 17 I got a job at Bevan W orks,
North fleet in the carpenters shop while the First World War was still goin g.
At 18yrs I was sent my call up papers. I was examined at Chatham for the
services but the firm I worked for stopped them, as I was an essential
worker so I did not have to join up.
About 1921 the works shut down and after wo rking for them for 4
yrs I was out of a job along with the other workers. I had been earning
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about £3 a week, (good money then). I was then on the dole getting 15
shillings a week for so many weeks then it was stopped for about 5 weeks.
The labour exchange was then at the bottom of Peacock street, (now
Court's Furniture). My mother had to keep me when the dole was stopped.
There were no handouts then only the workhouse. If you went to the
workhouse you got a small parcel of food and chopped wood for the fires in
the kitchen the next day. The workhouse is now the Oak Estate (Trafalgar
Rd) I was out of work for 18 months, there was no work anywhere. There
were about 1 million people out of work.
Sue White worth, 1 Petrie Grove, Thornbury,Bradford, W Yorkshire,BD3 8NH
Sue@sue-whitworth.fsnet.co.uk
SWEET F .A. AND THE
'88'
CENSUS
Jane Hurst
As I'm sure you know, the expression 'Sweet F.A.' means 'sweet
nothing'. It is said to have been first used by sailors in the Royal Navy to
describe the contents of the newly introduced tins of meat. This happened
at about the same time as the brutal murder of a little girl called Fanny
Adams, which took place on Saturday, August 24th, 1867, in Alton,
Hampshire. The contents of the tins were said to look like the remains of
poor Fanny.
Fanny, aged 8, her younger sister Lizzie and a friend called Minnie
Warner lived in Tanhouse Lane, Alton. On the day in question, they went to
play near their homes -in a place called Flood Meadows. There, Frederick
Baker, a clerk from a local solicitor, stopped them and offered them some
money,. He wanted Fanny to go with him and the other two children to go
away. Fanny refused, but Baker picked her up and carried her to the nearby hop-ground. When Lizzie arrived home alone the alarm was raised .
Fanny's mutilated and dismembered body was soon found.
Frederick Baker was arrested and on him were found two small
knives, one slightly blood stained. In his diary he had wriUen:"24th August, Saturday. -Killed a young girl. It was fine and hot."
Baker was committed for trial at Winchester Assizes and found
guilty. He was one of the last men to be publicly hanged in front of the
County Jail in Winchester when he was executed on Christmas Eve, 1867.
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And what has this to do with Ke nt? Well, the Adams fami ly appear
in the 1861 and 1871 cen sus for Tanhouse Lane in Alton -but are not there
in the 1881 census. Using the 188 1 British Census and National Index CDs,
I eventually found some of them . Fanny's father and mother, George and
Harriet Adams, were living in Ten nyson Road, Beckenham , Kent, together
with their two youngest daughters -Lilly Ada and Minnie. George was still a
bricklayer, as he had always been in Alton. Living in Thesinger Road ,
Beckenham, was George's eldest su rviving son, also called George and a
bricklayer, his wife Hannah and children, George aged 5 and James
Alexander aged 2. George had been born in Alton but James had been
born after the family's arrival in Kent. Just over the border, in Penge in
Surrey, was W aiter Adams, a bricklayer aged 24, who was Fanny's younger
brother. So, if you are descended fro m the Adams family wh o lived in
Beckenham in the late 1800s and have lost Fanny from the records -then
look in Alton Cemetery where her graveston e read s:-
ii Sacred to the memory of F anny Ada ms, aged 8 years and 4 months, who
was cruelly murdered on Saturday August 24th, 1867.
.Fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul, but
rather him which is able to destroy both body and soul in hell. "
( does anyone have any information on the subsequent whereabouts of the
ADAMS family?)
Jane Hurst, 82 The Butts,Alton, Hampshire, GU34 1RD
MY ANCESTOR
Anon
Your tombstone stands among the rest;
Neglected and alone.
The name and date are chiselled out
On polished, marbled stone.
It reaches out to all who care
It is too late to mourn.
You did not know that I exist
You died and I was born
Yet each of us are cells of you
In flesh, in blood, in bone,
Our heart contracts and beats a pulse
Entirely not our own
Dear Ancestor, the place you filled
One hundred years ago
Spreads out among the ones you left
Who would have loved you so.
I wonder if you lived and loved ,
I wonder if you knew
That someday I would find this spot,
And come to visit you .
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A WARTIME CHILDHOOD.
Ann Dyer nee Lowe
I was born on 17th September 1942 during a 'crash' warning, which
meant that enemy aircraft were overhead, at Earlham Hall, Norwich, a
maternity hospital.( It had been the home of Elizabeth GURNEY, who
married into the Quaker family of FRY, the chocolate makers and
philanthropists. ) My parents had come from London in 1939, my father as
the Garrison Engineer for Norfolk, and my Mother was transferred to
Norwich where she taug ht at Sprowston Infants' School.
Altho ugh Norfolk was heavily bom bed and my father was working
at organising coastal defences, gun em placem ents, and converting stately
homes for troop occupation , I enjoyed a happy childhood with family and
friends; there are photographs at the house holding my pet rabbit; on
rowing or sailing boats on the Broads; and on a 'safe' beach with the
barbed wire in the background! Toys were so scarce, my Father made me
a bucket and spade from a plum tin and a wooden spoon to the envy of
others on the beach. He made wooden toys, a train, carved animals, and
small furn itu re including a table, a chair, my own blackboard, and a wooden
pram for my dolls. A 'proper' doll's pram was found in Colchester where my
grand parents lived ; a dolls' house appeared with tacky paint, as Father
Christmas had been painting it on Christmas Eve. My Mother made my
clothes, encouraged me to read and to play the piano, sing and dance.
I was fortunate to have both parents at home during the war, as my
cousins' fath ers, my uncles, were abroad in the services. My grandfather,
who had been a professional soldier and served in WW1, trained a branch
of the Home Guard in Colchester. He was in his forties, so he was strong
and experienced, not like some of the men depicted in 'Dad's Army'! At th e
end of his life, he was proud to be a Chelsea Pensioner.
Memories of life back in London after the war, centre on parties
with my Mother's side of the family; my Uncle Will on the piano and my
Father on the banjolele leading the singing of the favourite songs of the
1920s and 30s; old party games, jokes and laughter. I remember the snow
blizzard of 1947 becau se it was the first day of the Summer Term and I
went to school in Winter uniform, and we built a snowman taller tha n my
Father! These are some of my memories of my life in the 1940s which I
hope will be of interest to readers.
Anne Dyer, Wh ite Gates, Lubbock Road, Chis/ehurst,BR75LA
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MISLEADING CERTIFICATES
Dennis Easy
My contribution is offered to those who are stuck in their research.
It is not intended as a 'how to do it' article but as encouragement not to give
up even though it might take years to get a breakthrough. The information
is out there somewhere if only one can find it. One thing I learnt, is to
always look critically at documentary evidence: strange as it may seem,
anecdotal evidence proved for me more reliable.
When, some 15 years ago, I started to take an interest in fam ily
history, one of the first things I did , was to track down the marriage of my
grandparents Henry Edwin EAS(E)Y and Eliza EMARY at Chelsfield in
1876. The certificate showed that Henry's father was also ca lled Henry and
that Eliza's father was Charles. From that information I was able, with
subsequent help from other members of NWKFHS, to trace back my
EMARY ancestors into the early 1700s and to link them with the families of
BALCOMB, PETERS, MAY and BOWRAR in the Darent Valley.
However, tracing the EAS(E)Y family was more difficult. I cou ld not
find the birth of my grandfather, who according to his age on the marriage
certificate, should have been born circa 1850. There were some Henry
EAS(E)Ys listed in the General Register Office indexes round about 1850
but after following those "leads" for many years, I decided that none of them
were my grandfather. Even the 1881 census was of no help as his place of
birth was shown as "London, Middlesex" and I did not know where to look
for him in earlier or later censuses.
My next attem pt was to see whether I could find information about
my great grandfather, according to the marriage certificate, also called
Henry EAS(E)Y I knew from anecdotal information that he had "lived until
his 90s", had died in Wood Green, had been a bailiff and had possibly been
born in Abbots Langley, Hertfordshire. But once again I could not find a
"Henry" who could be my ancestor.
Because EAS(E)Y is a relatively uncommon name (in the GRO
indexes of births, marriages and deaths there are only half a dozen
EAS(E)Ys recorded for each event in each quarter), I decided a way
forward might be to list all of them from the start of registration in 1837 to
see if any lin k could be made to the anecdotal information. While in the
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process of th is, I discovered that Eric SMITH of Cou nty Durham, a member
of the Guild of One-Name Stud ies (www.one-name. org ) was studying the
EAS(E)Y fa mily. He had com plete listi ngs into the early 1900s, which he
very kindly made available. He also suggested contacting Clive AYTON
who is compiling an index of everyone in the 1871 census for London (Mr
AYTON, PO Box 19, West PO 0, Nottingham, NGB 5JE undertakes a
search of his index for a reasonable fee -he will provide details of his
charges, etc. if sent an SAE).
None of us could find a Henry EAS(E)Y wh o was my great
grandfather.. However, as the yea rs went by, research seemed to point to
an Edwin Boyce EASY who, apart from not being a Henry, seemed to meet
the anecdotal, evidence. Finally, in 1999 I was able to locate Edwin Boyce
EASY in the 187 1 census and fou nd that he had a son Henry, my
grandfather, living with him. Subsequently, I found that my grandfather had
been named Edwin Thomas not Henry at birth in 1852!
So, about the only correct personal information in th e 1876
marriage certificate , was in respect of my grand mother. Neither my
grandfather, nor his father, my great grandfather, was called Henry at birth
and my grandfather's age was incorrect. I shou ld have been alerted to the
"Henry" problem as my father, christened "Hector", was known as Harry! I
wonder why three generations were all called Henry/Harry but given
different names at birth?
Oennis Easy, 22 Sherwood A venue, Potters Bar, Hertfordshire, EN6 2LO.
IN SEARCH OF I(ATE
Jennifer Hanney
When I sta rted research ing family history some 16 years ago, my
mother-in-law Elsie HANNEY (nee THOMAS) was still alive. she told me
that her parents were Kate Elizabeth (nee WALL) and David (THOMAS),
and she was born in Stafford, Staffordshire in the yea r 1900. She was th e
youngest of 9 children and was able to list them all with their families. Her
eldest sister named Kate also, was 23 when Elsie was born, and had a
daug hter Eva born exactly one week after Elsie, and her mother Kate was
born 29 January 1859, - an excellent start. I was already back to 1859 and I
hadn't left the room .
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June 2001
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I started looking for her parents' marriage working back from the
first child (Kate born 1877), but no luck. So I started working forwards and
forwards and forwards. In 1897 I finally found it. Kate WALL and David
THOMAS were married on 4th November 1897 in St. Mary's Ch urch , Long
Ditton, Surrey. How to tell my mother-in-law? I needn't have worried, she
already knew that there were 6 children before the marriage, but hadn't told
me about the "skeleton in the cupboard".
I found the fa mily in the 1891 census living at Ingestre Road,
Stafford. Both Kate and David were there with the first 4 chi ldren . Kate's
birthplace was given as Brierley Hill , Staffordshire, so although she had
lived for a while at Kin gston-on- Thames, she was now back nearer her
birthplace. I searched the registers for her birth for severa l years either side
of 1859, and under every variation of the name Kate (Catherine, Carol ine,
Katharine etc) but there was no entry. I foun d her broth er's entry and
obtained the birth certificate, which confirm ed th e parents as Benjamin
WALL and Elizabeth (nee LANGFORD)
The index to the 1881 census bega n to appear and when Surrey
was available, I borrowed the fiche from the Society to search for Kate -no
luck. By 1881 she should have been in Kingston with an illegitimate 3 yea r
old daughter who had been born in Kingston workho use. Perhaps she had
gone into service, I tried eve ry cou nty, no trace. When the CD.Rom . for the
census was available, my son gave it to me for Christmas. I looked again
for Kate to no avail. A friend then advised entering all the information I had
except the surname. I put in the disc for Greater London West and entered
Kate for given name, 1859 (Year of birth, year range 5 years), Stafford
(Birthplace) Surrey (County) Kingston (Town) and left the surn ame blank.
Two entries appeared, Kate MI LLS -wife- b. 1859, and Kate RICHARDSON
-Serv- b. 1854. On the detailed entry, Kate MI LLS had a daughter of 3
years. She was married to George MI LLS and also had a son George aged
1. I could hardly wait to check the marriage and obtai n the certificate. There
she was and the reason for the late marriage to David THOMAS was
obviously because she was already married. Why hadn't I thoug ht of this?
Perhaps I had never asked the right questions of Elsie, she did not
volunteer information. I will never know if she was aware of her mothers
first marriage, her daughters were not when I told them . However if you
have lost someone on the 1881 census, why not try the method I used, you
never know! My thanks to Ann FOX (society member) for the suggestion in
the first place.
E-mail.jenalhanney@btinternet.com
Jennifer Hanney, 155 Ridgeway Drive, Bromley, Kent. BRl 5DB
NWKFHS
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WAS YOUR ANCESTOR ON BOARD A VESSEL DOCKED AT THE SURREY
COMMERCIAL DOCKS ROTHERHITHE DURING THE 1891 CENSUS?
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Name
AYLWARD, CarrinQton
AYLWARD, Joanna
BALLARD,John William
BI RCHWOOD , Arthur Geor-ge
BISH OP, G
BRAD, John
BUTLER, Fre derick
BUTLER, Frederick Robert
CHEESEMAN , Alfred
COOKE, Ernest
COWARD, Emily
COWARD, John
COURTNEY
DYER , George
FENNETT, Thomas
FINIGAN?, Edward
GOODWIN, Sarah
G OODWIN , W illiam
GOODWIN, Wi lliam
HAD LOW , Albert
HOLLAN D, A
HUTSON, Joh n
HUTSON, Will iam
LlDD LE, Ralph
Ll NNED, James
LORE, John
MARCHANT, A
MOOR E, Albert
PIC KHAM, Alfred
PH ILLlPS, Richard
PHILLlPS , Richard Edward
SAFFERY? Henry
SH RULSHOLE? W illiam
VARRALL? Chadderton
WEAVER, Charles
Age
75
74
21
17
32
27
24
43
17
18
24
29
27
65
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30
58
57
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Where born
Ess, Bradfield
Ken,Greenwich
Ken , Upnor
Ken , Sittingbourne
Ken , Greenwich
Ken, Herne Bay
Ken. Rochester
Ken, Rochester
Ken, Faversham
Sry, Newington St Mary
Ken , Dover
Ken , SittinQbourne
Ken, Greenwich
Ken, Dover
Ken , Faversham
S ~ , Southwark
Ken, Dover
Ken, Dover
Ken, Sittingbourne
Ken, Whitstable
Ken, Greenwich
Ken, East Peckham
Ken, East Peckham
Ken, Upnor
Ken, Hoo
Ken, Chatham
Ken, Greenwich
Ken , Strood
Ken, New Brompton
Ken, Strood
Ken, Strood
Ken, Whitstable
Ken Rochester
Ken, Chatham
Ken , Tenterden
If you are interested in any of these names , I will be happy to supply you with
further information. Please send a SAE to
Ken Kirkden, 24 Tang Hall Lane, Hewarth, York Y031 1SG
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Josephine Birchenough's Slip Indexes.
Josephine Birchenough's Lee Index and other indexes.
Notes by D. R. Cufley, Sept 1994.
1.0 Josephine Birchenough'g Lee index.
Approx. 32,192 slips.
2.0 Deptford St Paul's Burials 1788-1812
A-E.
F-GU
HA-LA.
LA- Minute.
Nailer - Quinnell.
It seems the cards from 'R' have been put into the Lee Index.
3.0 Settlement Material approx. Maidstone Area.
Contact Gillian Rickard as she is also doing this study.
4.0 Local Strays by Parish.
Kent Parishes.
5.0 Local History Index ref Lampposts etc. in Lee and surrounding area.
6.0 Index of Deptford Victualling Yard Employees.
7.0 Index of:Longfield Parish Registers.
Tithe Maps.
Census.
8.0 Family History Indexes.
Birchenough.
Everest.
Everest/Trodo.
Redhead & related families.
9.0 Miscellaneous indexes; probably formed by Edwin Birchenough.
9.1 Index of what appears to be mainly wills covering the period from mid 1200's to at least
1744.
9.2 Index of places covering period approx. 1400-1700. Does not cross refer to the above index
(9.1).
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CONT RIBUTING MEMBERS
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4867 Mrs Jackie Savill, 8 Churchward Gardens, Hedge End, Southampton, Hants S030 2XP
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4873 Mrs Susan Brightman, 33 Crichton Road, Carshalton, Surrey SM5 3LS
4879 Mrs Jean Skilling, 15 Port Close, Lordswood, Chatham, Kent ME5 8DU
4884 Tom Young, 11 Avebu ry Road, Orpington, Kent BR6 9SB
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4894 Mrs Margaret Lazell , 62 Elmcroft Close, East Bedfont, Feltham, Middlesex TW14 9HJ
4899 Mrs & Mrs R C. Cheeseman, 33 Beacon Hill, Dormansland, Surrey RH7 6RQ
4901 Trevor Adams, 32 Lighthorse Drive, Woonona, N.S.W. 25 17, Australia
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4907 Mr RG. Fowler, "Yewtree Cottage", Greenhill Lane, Whitley, Warrington, Cheshire WA4 4JD
4909 Colin Manington, 5 Rowland Avenue, Gillingham, Kent ME7 3DL
4910 Mrs Anne Manington, 5 Rowland Avenue, Gillingham, Kent ME7 3DL
491 1 Mrs Annie Palmer, 19 Two Saints Close, Hoveton, Norwich, Norfolk NR12 8QP
4912' Mrs Rita Pettet, 1 Keats Close, Olivers Battery, Winchester, Hampshire S022 4HR
4913 Keith Taylor, 41 Telford Road, London Colney, St Albans, Hertfordshire AL2 1PQ
4923 Brian Fisher, 22 Pennington Road, West Moors, Ferndown, Dorset BH22 OJO
4924' Mrs Patricia Alien, 34 Florin Drive, Esplanade, Rochester, Kent ME1 HP
4925' Mrs June Bright, 4 Collingwood Court, Admiral's Quay, Bridgewater, Somerset TA6 3TE
4929 Mrs Janet Colin, 5 Riverdale Road , Bexley, Kent DA5 1RD
4930 Peter J. Colin, 5 Riverdale Road, Bexley, Kent DA5 1RD
4932 Mr G, Shaw, 283 Newton Close, Corringham, Stanford-Ie-Hope, Essex SS17 7JT
4936 Mrs Julia Lee, 8 Darrick Wood Road, Orpington, Kent BR6 8AW
4937 Thomas Malyn, 37 Meadowhill, Newton Mearns, Glasgow G77 6SZ, Scotland
4938 Mr DV. Campkin , 109, Devonshire Road, Weston-5uper-Mare, Somerset BS23 4NY
4939 Richard Hill, 23 Pant-Y-Cleyn Place, St Athan, Barry, Vale of Glamorgan CF62 4PT, Wales
4942 Mrs Margaret George, 85 Farm Holt, New Ash Green, Longfield, Kent DA3 8QB
4947 Grahame Fullalove,"Arnage", Lower Road, East Farleigh, Maidstone, Kent ME15 OJW
4948 Mrs Pamela Coke, 16 Kent Avenue, Welling, Kent DA16 2LP
4952 Miss J. Page, "Jubilee Cottage", Wheeler Lane, Witley, Surrey GU9 5QN
4953' Mrs J. McCormick, 'Bullion' Oast, Battle Street, Cobham, Kent DA12 3DB
4954 Mr W.E. Breacker, "Home Salve", Fakenham Road, Hillington, King's Lynn, Norfolk PE31 6DJ
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4958 Mrs Louise Hamilton , "Meadowmist", Church Hill, Chacewater, Cornwall TR4 8PZ
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BREACKER
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BRIMACOMBE
BRISTOW
BUL(L)PITT
BULFORO
BULL
BULLEY
PERIOD
Any
Pre 1665 .
Pre 1923
16e
c1705
e1790
1743-1 880
1ge
Any
19c
1750-1650
1ge
1800-1840
19-20c
19c
18e
16-1 ge
1ge
19c
18e
19c
Any
18e
18c
1ge
18-1ge
Post 1830
Pre 1900
1ge
Pre 1850
1800-1881
Pre 1900
18e
19c on
Pre 1850
1800-1920
18-1 9c
Any
PARISH/COUNTY
East Peckham KEN
Lambeth SRY
Camden MOX
Sevenoaks KEN
Snodland KEN
Shoreham KEN
Wilmington KEN
St Paul,Oeptford KEN
Any KEN
Beekenham KEN
Canterbury KEN
Belfast,Co.Antrim IRL
Deptford/Greenwieh KEN
Any KEN
Greenwich KEN
Sevenoaks KEN
Datchworth HRT
Hendon MOX
Oeptford KEN
Woug hton-on-the-Green BKM
Greenwich KEN
Any
Wymondham NFK
Eynsford KEN
Shoreham KEN
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Southwark SRy
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Any HAM
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MEMNO.
5030
4901
4930
4936
4966
4986
4986
4873
5005
4959
4912
4953
4966
5041
4997
4936
4953
4953
4967
4967
4932
4969
4987
4988
4952
4952
4909
4872
4699
4925
4954
4991
4936
4924
4969
5025
5021
4879
SURNAME
BULPITT
BURGESS
BU RROWS
BUTLER
CAMP KIN
CARTER
CHARTER
CHEESEMA N
CLAYTON
CLEMENTS
COLEPEPER
COLlN
COLLl NGS
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COLPEPER
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CONSTANT
COOPER
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CREASEY
CROMARTY
CROSS
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DAVIES
DAVIS
DEAN
DEARDS
DUMBRELL
DURLl NG
DYMOTT
EDEY
ELLOTT
FEAVER
FEVER
FINCH
FI RRELL
FIRTH
FI SHER
FORD
FOWLER
FRANKHAM
FREEMAN
FRICKER
FRIGHT
FULLALOVE
PERIOD
An y
Any
Pre 1900
Post 1830
Pre 1830
Any
1828+
18-1ge
Pre 1800
1600-1750
1ge
18e
1ge
1ge
Pre 1900
1ge
1821+
1850-1 930
1800-1880
1800-1 91 5
1895-1 905
1850-1920
1ge
1ge
18e
Pre 1900
1850 on
1ge
1ge
1ge
18-1ge
Any
Any
Pre 1800
20e
Post 1830
1ge
Early 1ge
Pre 1900
18-1 ge
1ge
18e
1ge
18e
1815+
Pre 1870
1920+
1ge
Any
1890s
17000n
early 1ge
18e
1ge
18-1ge
Pre 1795
1ge
1ge
Pre 1847
Pre 1900
1880-1 915
1890-1905
e1859
1927+
1B-20e
PARISH/COUNTY
Any BRK
Southwark SRY
Any
Northfleet KEN
St Saviour, Southwark SRY
Any (One Name Study)
PenshursllFawkham KEN
Bassingboum CAM
Downe KEN
Any KEN
Detling KEN
Doddington KEN
Lambeth SRY
Woodford NTH
Camden MDX
Croydon SRY
SeallFawkham KEN
DeptfordlBeekenham KEN
Bristol SOMIGLS
Peekham/E. Dulwich area SRY
Wimbledon SRY
Broekley/Deptford KEN
Lewisham KEN and London area
Croydon SRY
Westerham KEN & Ely CAM
Gravesend KEN
BelperDBY
NorthfleellSouthfleet KEN
Hendon/Childs Hill MDX
Southwark SRY
Any KEN
AnyLND
Seottow NFK
Any DOR
Greenwich KEN
Northfleet KEN
Brasted KEN
Wolverly WOR
Camberwell SRY
Any KEN
Shorediteh MDX
Stepney MDX
Hastings SSX
BromleylSevenoaks KEN & SRY
Mailing/Maidstone KEN
Hartley KEN
Lewisham KEN
Bristol GLS
Wilmington/Sutton at Hone KEN
Lewisham KEN
Sevenoaks KEN
Crayford/Dartford KEN
Enfield MDX
New Charlton KEN & Pevensey SSX
Marylebone MDX
Deptford KEN
Marylebone MDX
St Paul, Deptford KEN
St Mary, Lambeth SRY & Westminster MDX
Greenwich KEN
E. Dulwieh area SRY
Wimbledon SRY
Dartford KEN
Gravesend KEN
Gravesend/Plumstead KEN
MEM NO.
4969
4999
4969
4910
4929
4938
4867
4953
4899
4912
5017
5017
4902
4930
4930
4939
4867
4885
4885
4885
4885
4902
5046
4953
4939
4991
4924
5030
4953
4939
4993
4993
4879
4969
4902
4910
4988
4988
4901
491 3
4997
4967
4967
5025
5016
4925
4973
4902
4999
4894
4894
4987
4987
4967
4913
4923
4953
4907
4929
4872
4885
4885
4942
4867
4947
SURNAME
GEORGE
GIBSON
GOFFE
GRANT
GRAYLEN
GREEN
HALL
HAMILTON
HAND FORTH
HARRIS
HARTUP
HENTY
HILL
HITCHCOCK
HOBBS
HODSON
HOLLYWOOD
HOOD
HUGHES
HUGHESDON
HUNT
HURRY
INKPEN
JANAWAY
JARVIS
JATER
JEVES
KILLlCK
KING
KI RK
KITTERINGH AM
LADDS
LANDER
LANGSTON
LAWRENCE
LEE
LETTON
LEWINGTON
LEWlS
LlLLO
LINES
LONGHURST
LUCAS
MADLE
MALYN
MARCH ANT
MARTIN
MAY
McCORMICK
PERIOD
1881
19c
Pre 1900
18c
18-19c
19c
19c
19c
19c
Pre 1850
Pre 1847
1871+
Post 1830
18c
19c
19c
18-1 9c
19c
1840-1890
18c
19c
19c
18c
Early 19c
19c
19c
Any
Pre 1800
Any
18-20c
19c
19c
18c
Pre 1870
18c on
1890s
18-19c
Any
Post 1850
Any
Pre 1823
Pre 1900
Pre 1923
Any
19c
19c
19c
20c
Pre 1850
19c
Pre 1870
1800-1920
19c on
c1820
1700-1850
Any
16c?
c1800
1600-1800
cHOO
1600-1800
18-19c
19c
18c
19c
PARISH/COUNTY
Keston KEN
SI Mary Cray KEN
Old Basing HAM
Cornworthy DEV
Chatham KEN
Any KEN
Any KEN
Tonbrid ge KEN
Oldham LAN
SI Mary. Lambeth SRY
Westminster M DX
Dartford KEN
Gravesend & Milton KEN
Aldgate LND
Camberwell SRY
TonbridgelSevenoaks KEN
Leigh KEN
Cudham KEN
Greenwich/Deplford KEN
Maryport CUL
Greenwich KEN
Glasgow Govan Lanarkshire SCT
Any KEN
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Clerkenwell MDX
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Liverpool LAN & Yarmouth NFK
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Any KEN
Any KEN
Deplford KEN
Deplford KEN
Tunbridge W ells KEN
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Greenwich KEN
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Sydenham KEN
Deplford KEN
Bermondsey SRY
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Farnborough KEN
Chatham KEN
Sidcup KEN
GreenwichlDeplford KEN
Deptford KEN
Tenterden KEN
Hastings SSX
Northfleet KEN
St Paul. Deptford KEN
Hartley KEN
Bromley KEN
Strood/Rochester KEN
Sevenoaks KEN
Greenwich KE N
Brasted/Halsted KEN
Chislet KEN
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City of London LND & ClerkenwelllWestminster MDX
Chislehurst KEN
Southwark SRY
Leigh KEN
Orpington KEN
Had low KEN
Belfast. Co. Antrim IRL
MEMNO.
4942
4911
4969
4936
4988
4993
4913
4957
5028
4929
4929
4867
4909
4939
4939
4957
4957
4899
4902
4936
4997
4953
504 1
4987
4987
4988
4879
4899
4969
5041
4932
4988
4939
4925
4970
3805
5021
4969
4872
4997
4930
4969
4936
4879
4964
4911
4948
4948
4925
4907
4925
5025
4924
4937
4937
4937
4937
4937
4937
4937
4937
4957
4911
4936
4953
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1851 Census index. Vol n, name index
(32,000 names)
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57 Beckenham
Details
St. Martin, transcript & index
Chr & Bur 181 3-1867, Mar 1754-1867
23 Bromley Common Ho ly Trinity Burials 1844-1883
SI. Martin index to Bap & Bur &
7 Chelsfield
Orpington, Holy Innocents iqd to Bur.
SI. Nicholas index to PRs & MIs
38 Chislehurst
27 Darenth
St. Margaret, transcript
Mar 1813-1837, Bur 181 3-1884
St. Paul, ts & index Bur 1788- 1812
52 Deptford
SI. Giles the Abbot PRs 1538-1652,
42 Farnborough
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See Chelsfield
7 Orpington
SI. John the Baptist, transcript & index
33 Sutton-at-Hone
Bap 1813-1868
St Paul, ts & index Bur 1862-1940
17a Swanley
St Paul, ts & index Bur 1941-1981
17b Swanley
3
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Microfiche Publications - Monumental Inscriptions
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58 Beckenham
6 Bexley
St. George 1** NEW **1
SI. Mary &
Footscray, All Saints & Baptist
5 Bromley Common Holy Trinity
St. Mary, Plaistow
37 Bromley
SI. Mary, Roman Catholic
26 Chislehurst
All Souls (C/E) & Union Baptist
12 Crockenhill
SI. Margaret
2 1 Darenth
St. John the Baptist
8 Dunton Green
St. Martin
39 Eynsford
Baptist Church
43 Eynsford
See Bexley
6 Footscray
SI. Peter (Penshurst) & Woodlands, St.
13 Fordcombe
Mary the Virgin
SI. Margaret
9 Halstead
SI. Mary
24 Hayes
SI. Mary
15 Horton Kirby
St. Mary the Virgin & Calvin Ark
22 Ide Hill
St. Katherine
25 Knockholt
St. Botolph
40 Lullingstone
St. Margaret
4 Lee
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Orpington
Penshurst
Riverhead
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Southborough
Stansted
Sutton-at-Hone
Swanley
West Wickhan1
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41 Index to Kent Brickmakers
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44 Index to Judicial Records, Part I 1560-1 750; covers Hever,
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30 Name index to Queen's Own Royal West Kent Regiment
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54 Dunn's Funeral Directors of Bromley; Name Index to
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Feature Publication: Beckenham S1. George - Burials register 18 I 3-1976
The first part of this newly published 3-fiche set provides a date-sequenced transcript of the
burials register for St. George's Beckenham from 1813 to 1976. In the second part of the set, the
same information is provided in a name· indexed sequence. The fiche set contains almost 4,000
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Chatham KEN
Bromplon KEN
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Brornley KEN
Newing!on SRY
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Bristol SOM/GLS
E. Dulwich area SRY
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Mereworth/PeckhamlShipbourne KEN
Sitling bourne KEN
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Lewisham KEN
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An y KEN
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SI Mary Cray KEN
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Glasgow Govan Lanarkshire SeT
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Plumstead KEN
Hadlow KEN
Cudham KEN
Eynsford KEN
E. Peckham KEN
Southwark SRY
Brasted KEN
Deptford/Greenwich KEN
Gravesend KEN
Luddesdown KEN
Dulwich SRY.
Any esp. Deptford KEN
Beccles SFK
SI Mary Cray KEN
Camberwell SRY
Deptford KEN
Tonbridge KEN
Ifield/Crawley SSX
Medway Area KEN
Any
Medway area KEN
Medway Area KEN
Deptford KEN
E. Dulwich area SRY
Lambeth SRY
Tandridge SRY
Westerham KEN
Biggar Lanarkshire SeT
Sevenoaks KEN
Any
Sevenoaks KEN
MEMNO.
4872
5021
4997
4718
5005
4997
4999
4885
4885
4885
5025
4988
4912
4997
4994
4911
5028
4988
4894
4718
4912
4912
4718
5028
4997
4953
5017
4867
4923
5030
5025
5021
4953
4925
4947
4936
4925
4952
4988
4872
4988
4970
4796
4796
4924
3805
4987
4911
4901
4872
4948
4924
4879
4879
4879
4879
4885
4885
4959
4969
4939
4884
4936
4969
4925
SURNAME
SOUTH COD
SPENCER
STAINES
STANTON
STEER
STIGGER
STIGGERS
STILL
STRINGER
SULLlVAN
SUDON
TAFFS
TAIT
TAYLOR
TERRY
THOMSON
THOROGOOD
TITMUS
TOLHURST
TOMKINS
TREMAIN
TU NBRIOGE
TURNER
TYLER
VARN HAM
VICKERS
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WADDINGTON
WALL
WANS BURY
WATKINS
WEEDEN
WELLBY
WELLS
WESTER MAN
WICKERS
WILLOUGHBY
WINKWORTH
WOOD
WOODGATE
WYKES
YOUNG
PERIOD
Pre 1900
19c
Pre 1900
18·19c
19·20e
18c
19c
19c
Pre 18c
18c
Pre 1900
1ge
Any
18c
1ge
Pre 1800
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19c
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19c
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18con
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19c
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18c
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4885· pepys@home.com
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Kingsdown KEN
Woolwich KEN
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Greenwich KEN
Boume Green/Stroud GLS
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Lambeth SRY
Gravesend KEN
Sidcup KEN
FordwichlChatham KEN
City of London esp. St Sepulchre LND
CudhamlEdenbridge KEN
Any KEN
Deptford KEN
Milton-next· Sittingboume KEN
Greenwich KEN
Any KEN
London area
Dartford KEN
Shorediteh MDX
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Shoreham KEN
Any KEN
Maidstone KEN
An y KEN
Knockholt KEN
Bromley KEN
Lewisham KEN
Any KEN
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Strood/Rochester KEN
Chevening KEN
Stepney MDX
St Mary Cray KEN
Crayford/Dartford KEN
Beddington SRY
Biggar Lanarkshire SCT
MEMNO.
4969
5028
4872
4953
4947
4794
4794
4911
4542
5025
4872
4953
4997
4993
4913
4899
4901
5017
4879
4964
4929
4970
504 1
4970
491 2
4948
4912
5046
4867
4997
4967
4899
4993
4942
4988
4958
4958
5025
4912
4999
4924
4988
4997
491 1
4967
4987
4884
SPECIALISED INTERESTS/ One Name Studies
BISCHLAGER - One Name Study
CAMPKIN One Name Study
Cement Works
Church History/Churchyards/Parish Charities
Cricket Ball Makers
Gunmakers
Master Mariners - East India Company
Quakers
Royal West Kent Regiment -1" Bat!. WN1
Stonemakers
4932
4938
4910
4542
4957
4873
4902
4929
4932
4929
E-MAIL ADDRESSES - Changes
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CORRECTION to the last Members' Interests Supplement
Please note that member number 4840 is Mrs Shirley BREWlS and not as quoted in the March 2001 Supplement.
Please amend your list accordingly to avoid future problems.
CHANGES OF ADDRESS
523
EVERIST Mr John, 11 Redding Close, DARTFORD, DA2 6NS
592
CORBEn Mr John- 49 Falconers Rd, Luton. LU2 gET
1586
NICOL Mrs Heather, 30 Fort Road, Halstead, Sevenoakes, Kant TN14 7BT,
2014
WARD Miss Kate, 5 Valley View Terrace, Eynsford Road, Farningham, Kent
DA40BY,
IBBOn Mrs Maureen Elizabeth, Tilcara, Cambridge Rd, ELY, CB7 4HL
2488
EVANS Mrs Helen, 63 Maes Lllwynon, Cadoxton, Neath, West Glamorgan, SA10 8AQ S.Wales
2671
3459
HILLS Mrs Erica, 5 Glasshouse Close, Bibra Lake, Western Australia, 6163 AUSTRALIA
NICOL Mr John Norman, 30 Fort Road, Halstead, Sevenoakes, Kent TN147BT
3529
3972
WlLSON Mr lan, 10 Crummock Close, Bumham Heath, Slough, SL1 6EN
ABBREVIATED STATEMENT OF ACCOUNTS (£'s)
INCOME AND EXPENDITURE FOR THE YEAR ENDED
31 st DECEMBER 2000
Income
Expenditure
Subscriptions
Tu: refund on Covenants
13394
869
Sale of own publications
Sale of bought-In books
2639
1027
Research fees & donations
Courier service
Raffles
459
450
617
Miscellaneous
101
Journal
Branch meetings
Postage
Telephone & travel
Printing & stationery
F.F.H.S. affiliation
Insuranee
CapHalexpendHure
Reference library
Research projects
Miscellaneous
1906
Surplus for the year
Deposit account interest
---21462
6101
4068
584
652
2154
311
718
1439
29
478
72
4856
21462
==-===
=-=~=
BAlANCE SHEET AS AT 31st DECEMBER 2000
Reserves
Current Assets
General Fund as at 1.1.00
Surplus for the year
Legacy
26444
4856
7249
General Fund as at 31.12.00
38549
Stock (valued at cost)
Debtors & prepaymenta
Cash on deposit
Cash at bank & in hand
5841
362
37672
1605
45380
Less: Current Liabilities
Advance subscriptions
Creditors
J. Birchenough Award Fund
38549
-======
1669
4797
365
38549
For a copy of the detailed accounts. please apply to the Society Secretary
enclosing a stamped addressed envelope
75
Note OD slips.
Arch. Cant .
Reference tide or source.
Archaeologia Cantiana. Published by the Kent
Archaeological Society annually. First published in 1858.
Bagshaw's Directories are widely available. LSC and other reference
Bagshaw's Directory.
centres
Beaven, Rev. A.. B. The Aldermen of the City of London. (2 Vols.)
Beaven Aldermen.
Pub 1908.
Birth Registers - Dr WiIliams Library.
Dr Williams Library (cI643-l7l6). 14 Gordon Square, London.
Bonwitt.
Bonwitt. W. History of Paragon, and House and Residents. Published
by Bookshop Blackheath Ltd in 1976.
Boswell.
It is not clear which this refers. James Boswell- Biographer: The
life of Samuel Johnson.
Boswell: The great biographer 1785-95 Edited by K. Marlies. Shelf920
Lewisham. LibfBlackheath Lib.
Bromleage.
Bromley Local History Society Journal.
Bromley Pix .
Thought to be - Bromley-A pictorial history, edited by Patricia E.
Knowlden. Pub by Phillimore 1990. A D
ShelfLSC 942.BRM
Bromley History.
Bromley PR's - Marriages . Bromley Archives and Local History Centre Library Bromley.
. Bromley Settlement Examinations 1747-1787 & 1816-1831. Index
Broml ey Settlements.
published by North West Kent FHS. The original volumes are held in
the Archives section ofBromley Central Library (ref 613/1-3).
Burials in New Churchyard - Lee. Possibly "Surviving monumental inscriptions in the New
Churchyard" by LA J. Baker 1959 (with biographical notes)
Possibly Burney, Fanny 1752-1840. The Journals and letters ofFanny
Burney.
Burney (Madam D'Arbley). Edited by Joyce Hemlow with Curtis D.
Cecil & Althea Douglas. Vol. 1 1791-1792 Letters 1-39. Clarendon
Press 1972. Shelf 808.883 BUR. LSC.
Not known I!!!!!!
C & D - With number.
Cedars.
The 'Cedars', a house. Source of this reference not known. Stock &
Partners prospectus. Proposed site for 70 Sheltered housing units at The
Cedars, 97 Belmont Hill, Blackheath, London SEI3. Shelf
PA87/389S. nO.9LEW.
Film copy at LSe.
Census 184l.
Census 1871.
Film copy at LSC.
Film copy at LSe.
Census 1881.
Census 1851 - Kidbrooke. Not at LSe. Film copies available at Greenwich Local History
Centre.
Census 185 1 - Lee.
Film copy at LSC
Charlton - Baptisms.
Greenwich Local History Centre.
Charlton - Marriages.
Greenwich Local History Centre.
Charlton - Burials.
Greenwich Local History Centre.
Clwydd DIPT.
Clyydd County Record Office, The Old Rectory,
Hawarden, Deeside. CH5 3NR.( also a branch at Ruthin)
DIPT Class reference.
76
Cuttings are on shelf at LSC.
Possibly Defoe, Daniel. A plan of the English Commerce originally
published 1731. ReprintBlackwelll927.
OR Defoe, Daniel. A journal of the plague year. Second edition. George
Routledge & Son 1886. LSC shelf6S/2428 N. X 616.923 LON.
LSC has a card index of street names.
Deptford Streets.
Thought to be Blackheatl!, Lewisham & Greenwich directory held at
Directory 1886.
LSe.
Thought to be Church Wardens Accounts.
Disbursements.
Josephine B irchenough's Thesis presented to the Institute of Heraldic
Dissertation.
& Genealogical Studies, 'D
Canterbury. 1989. The meeting of the Vestry Lee, Kent. 31 March 1746.
Ref 90/8752. 283. LEE
Drake's Edition of Hasted's History of Kent. The hundred of
Drake.
Blackheath ( Drake )
Duncan, Leland Lewis. History of the Borough of Lewisham 1908.
Duncan.
LSC shelf87/8089. 942. LEW. Reprint 1973.
Not known !!!!!!!
E- With number.
Not known I!!!!!!
EC- With number
Egremont, Earl of Diary of Viscount Percival afterwards first Earl
Egmont Diary.
ofEgmont. Various references to Charlton extracted by E & J
Birchenough. LSC Shelf78/6443. 808.883 EGM.
E. I. Co ( Officers of)
East India Company.
Eltham Local History Records.
Greenwich Local History Centre.
Farington.
Farington, Joseph. The Farington Diary excerpts relating to the
Angerstein family between 1798 and 1821 extracted by J & E
Birchenough from the edition of Farington Diary edited by James
Greig, Hutchinson & Co 1922. LSC shelf 78/6447 808. 883 FAR.
Possibly a street directory ?????
Farmers 1860.
Property in west end of Old High Road, Lee belonging to the
Firs-Letters.
Papillon family.
Letters and papers at the Centre for Kentish Studies VIOlS C601-Papillon Papers.
and various other sources noted in chapter on Papillon.
Fludyer. An eighteen century family in Lee ( The Fludyer family)
Fludyer.
NW Kent FRS journal Vo!. 1 No 2 Winter 1979.
Friends of Nunhead Cemetery Newsletter.
FONC Newsletter.
Transactions of the Greenwich & Lewisham Antiquarian Society.
Glas.
Gregory & Nunn. The story of Lee, being records of the ancient parish
Gregory & Nunn.
of Lee and parts of its immediate neighbourhood. Written and compiled
by R. R. C.Gregory & F. W. Nunn. Pub. Lewisham Newspaper
Co. 1923. ShelfLSC 942. L ref. Lib 942.163.
Not known !III!I!
J- With number.
Not known I!!! !!!
Judd's MP's
Newspaper. Kentish Mercury 1839-1964. LSC
Kentish Mercury.
Kent Archives.
Kentish Sources.
Not known! II!!!I
LA - With number.
Cuttings.
Defoe.
77
Lee Poll Book, 1838.
Lee Poll Book, 1865.
Lee Tithe Map.
Lewisham Guide.
Lewisham Souvenir.
LLHS.
Lysons
LSC
LSC
LSC
Not known which guide publication. LSC
Not known which Souvenir publication. LSC
Now LSe. Lewisham Study Centre.
Lysons, Daniel. The environs of London, being an historical account
of the towns, viJIages and hamlets within 12 miles of that
capital: interspersed with biographical anecdotes: Rev Daniel
Lysons. Chaplain to the Right Hon. the Earl of Orford. Pub .. Cadell
circa 1780. 4 Vols. Vol. I Surrey pub. 1782. Vol. 2 & 3 Middlesex pub.
1785 . Vol. 4 Herts, Essex & Kent pub. 1786.
MH--Not known!!!!!!!
Mi scelI. 17c
Kent Archives S. Vol. XVII R ecords Publication Committee. 1960
Headley Bros. Ltd.
M usgrave.
Thought to be Musgrave's Obituaries. Not known where held.
Old Lee MJ's.
Monumental inscriptions in the Old Churchyard by E & J Birchenough.
1967 Index.
Past Recaptured.
Thought to be prints published by the LSC.
Pop. Study.
Thought to be Local P opulation Studies volumes.
Rate Book.
L SC and at GLRO.
St Margaret, Lee - Baptisms. Film copy at LSe.
St M argaret, Lee - Burial s. Film copy at LSC.
St Margaret, Lee - M arriages. Film copy at LSC.
St P aul, Deptford - Burials. Film copy at LSC. Originals at GLRO.
Smith's History ofCharlton. Smith, John G., I) Charlton: a compilation of the parish and its
people Vol. 1 pub 1970. LSC shelf942 CHA. 2) Charlton: a
compilation of the parish and its people Vol. 2 pub 1975. LSC shelf
942 CHA. 3) History of CharIt on, a compilation of the parish and its
people. Vol. 3 Pub. 1984. LSC Shelf942.CHA
Stow - Sheriffs of Kent.
John Stow wrote "A survey of London", Vol. I & 2, pub 1908,
Clarendon. ShelfCatford Lib.
May refer to LSC catalogue card index
The Catalogue.
Not known???????????
T hralc.
Times Obit.
Times Newspaper Obituaries.
GLRO.
Turnpike Trust.
Wi ll XV No.
Not known??????????'7
Vani shed Vi lIage.
The Vani shed Village by George H. Peters pub 1954 by
The B lackheath press. Lse Shelf942.LEW. Index to above
published in house at the LSC. Shelf 942.LEW oversized.
NOTES .
Lse = Lewisham Study Centre
GLRO = Greater London Record Office.
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HOUSE
GROUPS
At our House Groups members meet together in small groups in their own
homes to help each other with family history problems, do project work and make
new friends .
Each House Group has its own character. Sizes vary as some can only
accommodate small numbers ; a few groups concentrate on projects requiring
experienced research; some mostly discuss their own fam ily histories; others have
a wide variety of activities. Anyone belonging to NWKFHS can apply to join any
House Group but mutual compatibility is essentia l and each group, through its
leader, has the option on accepting additional members.
Existing groups and contacts are listed below. The venues do not
necessarily represent the areas of interest of those attending . If there is no House
Group near you but you would like to join or form one anywhere in the UK or
overseas, contact: Stella Szachnowski,' Woodcote', Laurel Grove, Penge, SE20
0208778 2327
8QJ if
Sally Jones
or
Lawrence White
Barbara Godfrey
BEXLEY/CH ISLEHURST
Val Feakins
BROMLEY
Day:
Roy Lynch
Evening:
Joan Goodwins
MEOPHAM
ORP INGTON&PETIS WOOD
Jean Rawling
Maisie Hadaway
SEVENOAKS Day :
Linda Meaden
##SEVENOAKS SEAL
SHIRLEY&WEST WIC KHAM
Joan Field
Barbara Godfrey
SIDCUP
Stella Szachnowski
SOUTH LON DON
Pamela Eagles
STONE&DARENTH
##BECKENHAM
0208 650 4042
0208 650 5757
02083037561
0208460 2209
0208 464 2040
01474 812596
01689 876385
01 732 456646
01732 762679
0208 777 5273
0208 303 7561
0208 778 2327
01474 705523
GLOS.AREA This group no longer meets but Mrs Lesley Henry has offered to help
if possible with queries in that area . Write to her, enclosing an s.a.e., at the Coach
House, New Barn Lane , Chelten ham, Glos. GL5 3LD
## THESE HOUSE GROUPS HAVE VACANCIES AND WOULD BE PLEASED TO
HEAR FROM ANYONE LIVING IN TH EIR AREAS W HO WO ULD LIKE TO JOI N
THEM
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BRANCH REPORTS
SEVENOAKS
Lynn Marsh
The New year started for Sevenoaks with a Members Evening. Several
members were brave enough to tell us of their family history experiences and we
also had interesting items on display.
In February Mr Richard Ratcliffe paid his first visit to Sevenoaks and
guided us through Quarter Session Records, which can be found in County Record
Offices . It is not only the names of criminals, which can be found in them, but also
names of jurors, witnesses, those applying for various licences etc. Charities are
also to be found there and up to 1832 the names of people entitled to vote.
After our AGM in March (when all serving officials were duly re-elected)
we were very grateful to four members of the Computer Branch who showed us
how computers can further our family history researches.
By the time you read this Sevenoaks Branch will have been host to our
Society's 23rd Annual general Meeting. More of that in the next journal.
Chairman: Lynn Marsh, 25 Broomfield Road, Sevenoaks, TN133EL
DARTFORD
Sheila Elisak
Our February meeting was well attended to listen to Audrey Gillett who
gave us an insight into the plight of one Victorian woman called "Emma". Victorian
women needed to have a strong character to endure the hardships of living in
poverty. From her life in the workhouse to training as a lace maker at the tender
age of 8 years old, Emma experienced great hardship & poverty, working from
6am.- 6pm in the summer & 8am. -8pm in the winter, with a Y2 a day off on a
Saturday. She became interested in music & saw "Carmen" in 1874 and saw
"Pavolva" dance after she married. After a life of seeing her children grown up,
Emma died at the age of 80 years old, although living with her daughter she was
fiercely independent to the end!
At the March meeting , new members and visitors who were beginning
their family research showed a great interest in the wealth of books, fiches &
journals we have available for sale.
Marjorie Moore gave us an insight into why our agricultural ancestors
moved around the countryside. This subject provokes a great deal of interest, as
"Ag.Labs" were a large section of the population, and farming was of economical
importance during the 19th century. Employment was sought at "hiring" fairs and as
many landowners had vast estates, sited in many counties, it's possible that
anyone hired would move from county to county .Marjorie gave us an awareness of
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the hard labour borne by " Ag. Labs" and how for economical reason many of these
people moved from agriculture into the realms of the factory worker. So if you are
looking for an "Ag.Labs" they did move, didn't they?
Our April meeting commenced with 102 members plus 14 visitors. W e
were saddened by the death of Peter Gosney and as a mark of respect we stood
for a minute's silence. Our condolences go to his family; we shall miss his greatly
valued support for our Society.
This was our Annual Meeting where Janet Rose and the committee were all reelected by a show of hands. Our speaker this month was Richard Ratcl iffe who
delved into the life of John Wesley the founder of the Methodist Church & its'
teachings. He nicknamed himself the "Child of Fire" because of his escape from a
fire at his home when he was 5 years old. He considered himself saved for a
purpose & later, after becoming a fellow of Christ Church College, Oxford ; he
formed a group of like-minded friend s who worked with prisoners. It wasn't until July
1740 when John Wesley had acquired a building in wh ich to preach that the
Methodist Society began in earnest. Joh n Wesley died in 1791 , but his religious
philosophies remain at the forefront of Methodism. In 1991 two hundred years after
his death a commemoration rally was held aptly entitled "Child of Fire." Many
records are held at local record offi ces showi ng where chapels were located & who
were members of those chapels.
Pub/icity: Shei/a Elisak, 19 Billings Hill Shaw ,Hart/ey Nr Longfie/d, DA3 BEU
David Wood
BROMLEY
In January Bill Davis gave a very interesting "I ntroduction to Irish
Research". Endemic poverty and con sequent migrations meant that many Irish
were never recorded at all. Fire destroyed many archives in 1711 and 1922 and the
surviving records are full of contradictions and complications. Fortunately, 80
percent of all research into Irish ancestors can be done in UK record offices,
notably the PRO and The British Library. Mormon records and the '81 Census
Index were also recomm ended. In the BMDs, deaths begin in 1864. Very careful
planning is needed to get useful results from a visit to Dublin. Parishes, Counties,
Baronies & Town lands must be mastered. Although many recent Census returns
have been destroyed, on various pretexts, Irish Census records are closed for only
70 years.
Anthony Camp's presentation on "Proving the Pedigree" attracted
Bromley's highest attendance for nearly 2 years. From the premise that reliable
primary sources are fewer than might be supposed, he showed many ways in
which searchers can be misled, mentioning that it is easy for an illegiti mate child to
have been given a perfectly legitimate Birth Certificate. Recalling how tempting it is
for beginners to get back as far as possible as quickly as possible, he provided
numerous, encouraging reminders of how to avoid believing only what we'd like to
believe. Anthony left us possibly sadder, but hopefully much wiser.
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At our March Meeting, Brian Oldham presented a captivating accou nt of
Florence Nightingale's life and work. He added much to the well-known facts ,
deploring modern, cult-type attempts to debunk her. By emphatic demand from his
audience , Brian followed his talk with additional, high-quality illustrations. The Lady
of the Lamp apparently wrote a lengthy and detailed Will, .in which she instructed
that her MI should be extremely brief. And so it was , but, fortunately for historians of
all kinds, her family background and her life's work are well-recorded elsewhere.
Sec: David Wood, 44 Oakwood Avenue, Beckenham, Kent BR3 6PJ
THE NORTH WEST I(ENT FHS COMPUTER BRANCH
At February's meeting, Ron Anthony demonstrated the program
TreeDraw . This program allows drop-down trees of ancestors & descendants to be
drawn by computer. Information can be put in directly, or transferred from any
fam ily history program , via GedCom files.
March was the 10th meeting of this new branch, and we held our first
ann ual meeting . The sudden demise of our first chairman , Tony Field, required the
election of a new chairman, Ted Connell. Attendees provided lots of useful
feed back about the form at and content of the meeti ngs. As a result, future meetings
will include a 20 minute Beginners Corner after the main presentation and a comfort
brea k. The short annual meeting was followed by a demonstration of how to send &
receive e-mail messages, and how best to file them .
In April , Maureen Fea rn answered the question "What's a Bot?". After
explaini ng how search engines work, Maureen showed us how to get the best from
Internet searches, and discussed the advantages of her favourite search engines .
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The Beginner's Corner gave a demonstration of how to organise your computer so
that you were in control.
The computer branch continues to strengthen and evolve as Tony, would have
wished . We have two new initiatives to provide help to our members:
i) for local members: A questionnaire revealing members' ability in a variety of
programs has provided a "self-help" platform to share their knowledge and help
others.
ii) for all members. A new mailing list is available for help with general computer
problems. Send a message with the subject and text as "subscribe" to ENG-KENT NWKFHS-COMP-L@rootsweb.com to join this list, more detailed reports of the
computer branch meetings can be found on the Society website ( see front cover)
He/en Das/ey e-mail BlianDasley@compuserve.com
OUR OWN DEDICATED MAILING LIST
Denise Rason
It seems appropriate that I am writing this report on 29 April 2001, Census
Day in GB, when we have 208 members on the mailing list. During the last three
months, there have been a number of interesting questions and answers on the list,
some of which we hope, in time, might be published in the journal
If you are not sure what an e-mail list is and whether you wi ll find it of
interest, why not subscribe, it is free. If you decide that it is not for you can
unsubscribe quite easily. You will receive a message when you join telling you how
to do this
To subscribe, just send an e-mail to ENG-KENT-NWKFHS-Lrequest@rootsweb.com that contains the word 'subscribe' and your membership
number in the text and put 'subscribe' in the subject line.
It is possible for anyone to search the archived messages on
http://lists.rootsweb.comlindexlintl/ENG/ENG-KENT-NWKFHS.html
Another list has been started by Phi I Warren which aims to offer help and
advice with members computer problems. To subscribe to this, send an e-mail to
ENG-KENT-NWKFHS-COMP-L-request@rootsweb.com. Once again with the word
subscribe and your membership number in the body of the message.
Denise Rason Denise@rason.freeserve.co.uk
Don't forget to visit the Society's Web Site http://users.ox.ac.uk/-ma/co/mINWKFHS
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OUR LIBRARY
Our Library is now open at the Hextable Heritage Centre at College Road,
Hextable every Wednesday from 10 am until 4 pm, and on the third Saturday of the
month from 2 - 4 pm.
If you would like to know what books, etc. we hold, each Branch has
copies of the catalogue , which can be consulted at meetings. However, if you
wou ld like to have your own copy of the catalogue, these are available from me in
paper form (address on the front cover of the Journal), or from Maureen Fearn on
disc (please e-mail Maureen - mfearn@globalnet.co.uk ) , at a cost of £1.25
inclusive of postage. We now have a copy of the 1981 I.G.I. for the whole country
and two microfiche readers. We hope to add other microfiche in time.
Do come and use the Library, and maybe you will be as lucky as several
members have been in finding more information about your ancestors.
If your partner is not interested in genealogy, perhaps they are gardeners.
The grounds have just been planted with 180 pink, scented rose-bushes. There is
a small pond , and several rare trees. They can enjoy the gardens while you do
your research!
I look forward to meeting you at the Library.
Audrey Rainer. Librarian
PROJECTS
Waiter Eves
This is my last report as the Projects Co-ordinator. Brian Waymont has
stepped forward to take on the role and was elected at the AGM. Brian and his wife
May have been co-ordinating the 1891 census and in the past helped with the 1851
cen sus for Greenwich. I know Brian will be very good in his new role as the
Societies Projects Co-ordinator. Brian will be maintaining the Projects Register, so
if you are starting a project or thinking of doing so please let him know. The register
exists to enable us to see what has been and is being done and can help prevent
duplication of work. Details of how to contact Brian will be in the Journal.
The National Burials Index has now been launched and it is an important
additional aid for all Family Historians. The majority of the Kent entries have come
from our own Society. Both Peter Searle and Steve Archer worked to produce
many of the records from the Deptford St Paul burials for the NB!. Steve should
also be congratulated for his work on the NBI program. It was Steve's job to design
the software etc. for the NBI. When you obtain the NBI CD-ROM's you will see how
user friendly he has made it.
Other projects are still continuing . The Hithergreen MI's are making steady
progress. Vol unteers have continued to help with the inputting of transcriptions and
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the South London House Group led by Stella Szachnowski has been carrying out
the checking of the inputted work. More volunteers for inputting of the transcriptions
are needed. Charlie Hoad is continu ing , and not far from completing, Ladywell and
Brockley and our editor, Stella Baggaley, is sti ll working on the Farningham and
Hever Parish registers. Work is also being carried out on the burials of St Mary
Lewisham. The Strays index, a jOint project with the Kent Societies, is being coordi nated by David CufJey
During my time as Projects Co-ordinator I have always been amazed at
the amount of work that members of this Society have put into various projects for
the Society. Also of others who have worked away at indexing/transcribing by
themselves and then generously made available their work to the Society for
publication. Some recent examples being Lionel Cole's Index of the Quarter
Sessions and Pat Manning, of the Brom ley Branch , with the Burial Index of St
George, Beckenham. I believe we can be proud of this Society's contribution to
family history/genealogical research and of the volunteers who produced the work.
Waiter J Eves.
THE ROLE OF THE PUBLICITY REPRESENTATIVE
I am have been the publicity rep. during the past 6 months for the
Dartford Branch . My task has been relatively simple thanks to Janet Rose
who already had a very good system in place.
I take notes during each monthly meeting and send a short precis
of the talk; details of the next meeting ; and my contact number; to the local
newspapers. Interested members of the public have contacted me asking
for fu rther information regarding our society. I am happy to report that our
membership has increased for Dartford, due in part to the articles from the
newspapers .
My task includes supplyi ng general information about our society to
local libraries. I attend Dartford's monthly committee meeting when I report
on the cu rrent advertising in the newspapers and libraries.
Sheila Elisak, 19 Billings Hill Shaw, Hartley, Nr Longfield, DA3 BEU
e-mail Shei/a@selisak.freeserve .co.uk
INDEX OF INHABITANTS OF NORTH WEST KENT
Linda Meaden
Linda Meaden, 7 Middle Lane, Seal, Sevenoaks TN15 OBB will check for
specific surnames in this index. Please send s. a.e. or 2 IRCs; no search will be
made unless an s.a.e. or 2 IRCs are provided. No charge is made but donations
are welcome .
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DUll LlBIlAIlY
Our Library is now open at the Hextable Heritage Centre at College Road,
Hextable every Wednesday from 10 am until 4 pm, and on the third Saturday of the
month from 2 - 4 pm.
If you would like to know what books, etc. we hold, each Branch has
copies of the catalogue, which can be consulted at meetings. However, if you
would like to have your own copy of the catalogue, these are available from me in
paper form (address on the front cover of the Journal), or from Maureen Fearn on
disc (please e-mail Maureen - mfearn@globalnet.co.uk ) , at a cost of £1 .25
inclusive of postage. We now have a copy of the 1981 !.G.!. for the whole country
and two microfiche readers. We hope to add other microfiche in time .
Do come and use the Library, and maybe you will be as lucky as several
members have been in finding more information about your ancestors.
If your partner is not interested in genealogy, perhaps they are gardeners.
The grounds have just been planted with 180 pink , scented rose-bushes . There is
a small pond, and several rare trees . They can enjoy the gardens while you do
your research!
I look forward to meeting you at the Library.
Audrey Rainer. Librarian
'ROJECTS
Waiter Eves
This is my last report as the Projects Co-ordinator. Brian Waymont has
stepped forward to take on the role and was elected at the AGM. Brian and his wife
May have been co-ordinating the 1891 census and in the past helped with the 1851
census for Greenwich . I know Brian will be very good in his new role as the
Societies Projects Co-ordinator. Brian will be maintaining the Projects Register, so
if you are starting a project or thinking of doing so please let him know. The register
exists to enable us to see what has been and is being done and can help prevent
duplication of work. Details of how to contact Brian will be in the Journal.
The National Burials Index has now been launched and it is an important
addition al aid for all Family Historians . The majority of the Kent entries have come
from our own Society. Both Peter Searle and Steve Archer worked to produce
many of the records from the Deptford St Paul burials for the NB!. Steve should
also be congratulated for his work on the NBI program . It was Steve's job to design
the software etc. for the NBI. When you obtain the NBI CD-ROM's you will see how
user friendly he has made it.
Other projects are still continuing. The Hithergreen MI's are making steady
progress. Volunteers have continued to help with the inputting of transcriptions and
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the South London House Group led by Stella Szachnowski has been carrying out
the checking of the inputted work. More volunteers for inputting of the transcriptions
are needed. Charlie Hoad is continuing, and not far from completing , Ladywell and
Brockley and our editor, Steila Baggaley, is still working on the Farningham and
Hever Parish registers. Work is also being carried out on the burials of St Mary
Lewisham. The Strays index, a joint project with the Kent Societies, is being coordi nated by David Cufley
During my time as Projects Co-ordinator I have always been amazed at
the amount of work that members of this Society have put into various projects for
the Society. Also of others who have worked away at indexing/transcribing by
themselves and then generou sly made available their work to the Society for
publication. Some recent examples being Lionel Cole's Index of the Quarter
Sessions and Pat Manning, of the Bromley Branch , with the Burial Index of St
George, Beckenham. I believe we can be proud of this Society's contribution to
family history/genealogical research and of the volunteers who produced the work .
Waiter J Eves.
THE ROLE OF THE 'U8L1CITY RE'RESENTATIVE
I am have been the publicity rep. during the past 6 months for the
Dartford Branch. My task has been re latively simple thanks to Janet Rose
who already had a very good system in place.
I take notes during each monthly meeting and send a short precis
of the talk; details of the next meeting; and my contact number; to the local
newspapers. Interested members of the public have contacted me asking
for further information regarding our society. I am happy to report that our
mem bership has increased for Dartford, due in part to the articles from the
newspapers.
My task includes supplying general information about our society to
local libraries. I attend Dartford's monthly committee meeting when I report
on the cu rrent advertisi ng in the newspapers and libraries.
Sheila Elisak, 19 Billings Hill Shaw, Hartley, Nr Longfield, DA3 8EU
e-mail Shei/a@ selisakfreeserve. co.uk
INDEX OF INHABITANTS OF NORTH WEST KENT
Linda Meaden
Linda Meaden, 7 Middle Lane, Seal, Sevenoaks TN15 OBB will check for
specific surnames in this index. Please send s.a.e. or 2 IRCs ; no search will be
made unless an s.a.e. or 2 IRCs are provided. No charge is made but donations
are welcome.
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NAME ENQUIRIES OFFICER
Lynn Searle
Lynn Sear/e, 14 Links Road, West Wickham, Kent BR4 OQ W keeps a
record of all names being researched by members and will answer and record
name inquiries from members and non-members. This is separate from and
complementary to Linda Meaden's Index of Inhabitants of N.W. Kent. This service
is free but donations to the Society are welcome to cover expenses. Please send
s. a.e or 2 IRCs to cover postage.
THE 1881 CENSUS INDEX
Our co-ordin ator, Ted Finley, will provi de a postal service search for
members; send him as many details of your ancestor as you ca n, give the county
you want searched, the surname, forename, age, and, if known, place of birth.
The cost is £1 per surname, stamps or cheque payable to NWKFHS, and sae:
overseas members four IRC's.
Members may borrow the fiche to search themselves but must collect
them from Ted and deliver them back within seven days. This service is not for one
name studies or multiple extractions.
The fiche for the county of Kent are available at all three of our monthly
meetings but must not be taken away.
Co-ordinator: Ted Fin/ey, 10 The Charne, Offord, Sevenoaks, Kent TN14 5LS
INTERNA TIONAL GENEALOGICAL INDEX
The IGI for Great Britain and a few other countries is available for consultation at
Society meetings as follows: 1988 at Dartford and 1984 at Sevenoaks. Joyce Hoad
has the other 1984 edition and the Stone & Darenth House group has the 1981
edition . It will be possible for members to have it in their own homes for consultation
or for House Groups to have it at their meetings by arra ngement with the Branch
Secretary concerned. Please note however that it will be necessary for the
borrower to collect and return the fi che .
RENEWALS SECRETARY
Maureen Griffiths
Maureen Griffiths, 30,B/adindon Road, B/endon, Bex/ey DA5 3P
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OUT-OF -AREA CO-ORDINA TOR
Margaret Watson
Members living in the UK but unable to attend meetings because of
distance or disability may contact me for help with their research .
If you have a problem, I can refer to some of our very experienced
members to hopefully point you in the right direction. I am able to consult the
Society's library on your behalf and would be prepared to look up a specific item in
local records. However please remem ber thi s is not a research service. Please
give information clearly. A brief 'tree' is often easier to grasp, than a long rambling
letter!
Please write to me at: 9 Featherbed Lane, Addington, Croydon CRO 9AE
e-mail marjon@fbed.freeserve.co. uJ.;
OVERSEAS CO-ORDINA TOR
The Overseas Co-ordination service is run by the Meopham House Group
and they answer general queries on local family history topics, which our overseas
members cannot answer for themselves from their local sources. It is not a
research service but information can be drawn from the Society library, local
libraries and record offices and the Group's own references . If you have a problem
with your research and they cannot help then they know and can consult with some
of our very experienced members who may have the answer.
The address is:- Meopham House Group , clo
Joan Goodwins, 35 Cheyne Walk, Meopham, Kent DA 13 OPF
KENT FAMIL Y HIS TORY SOCIETY
For information regarding membership and publications available please
contact:c
A/an Robert Makey, Chairman & Honorary Editor, 3 Preston Court, Canterbury
Road, Faversham, ME13 8LL
KENT HEARTH TAX
My apologies to ail subscribers for the fu rther selays. Latest news from the
printers is that it is now being run with the Cambridge Hearth Tax volume and will
probably now appear in July 2001 not June.
Duncan Harrington history.research@ btinternet.com
THE CLIQUE
New Web site listing old and out of print books UKBookWorld .com
Michae/ Cole, 7 Pul/eyn Drive, York Y024 1DY WWW.9Iique.co.uk
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THE ARCHIVES HUB
Informati on on 20 UK Universities & colleges , more being added.
http ://www.archiveshub.ac. uk
NWKFHS TA PES LIBRARY
Due to the untimely death of Tony Field this service is not available at
present.
NETW ORK 11
TAPE LIBRARY LISTS
KENT F H S
Tapes are available for hire, at a cost of £1.60 including postage &
packing, for 14 days. Please make all cheques payable to: KENT FHS
Please give NAME, ADDRESS, TELEPHONE NUMBE R, you r FHS &
MEMBERSHIP NUMBER ( UK members only)
Send requests to: KENT FHS TAPE LIBRARY, Two ways ', Salisbury Rd, St
Marga re t's Bay, CT15 6DP
WOOLWICH & DISTRICT F H S
Tapes may be hired at a cost of £1.60 including p&p for 14 days. Please make all
cheques payable to WOOLWICH & DISTRICT FHS. Please give NAME,
ADDRESS , TELEPHONE NUMBER, your FHS and Membershi p Number. (UK
members only)
Send re quests to: Woolwich & District FHS Tape Library, 129 Yorkland Ave,
Welling, Kent DA1 6 2LQ
WEST MIDDLESEX FHS
Tapes may be hired , at a cost of £1 .60 including p & P for 14 days.
Please make cheques payable to WEST MIDDLESEX FHS. Please give your
NAME, ADDRESS, TELEP HONE NUMBER, FHS & MEMBERSHIP NUMBER.
( UK Mem bers only )Send requests to : West Middlesex FHS Tape Library, 18a
Gordon Road, Ashford, Middlesex TW1 5 3
1851 CENSUS -INTERIM INDEX SEARCH SERVICE
The Society offers a search service to the 1851 Census for our area that
has been transcribed and indexed but remains as yet unpublished. The service,
gives full names, ages and fo lio numbers and now covers the following parishes :W rotham, Offham , Addington , Trottiscliffe, Stansted , Ightham , Northfleet, Nursted,
Ifi eld, Meopham , Luddesdown, Cobham, Denton , Chalk, and Shorne (14,000
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names). Searches will be made for inquirer's by Linda Meaden, 7 Middle Lane,
Seal, Sevenoaks TN15 OBB
If no entry is found the inquirer wi ll be notified and a note kept to check
against later interim indexes. If the entry sought appears in a subsequent interim
index to that parish, the enquirer will then be notified. Please give fo ren ames and
approximate ages of those sought if possible. The charge is £2 .00 per enquiry
payable in advance + foolscap s.a.e.
Please make Cheques payable to the N.W.Kent F.H.S. and in Sterling
only. Postal requests only please.
COURIER SERVICES
To The Family Records Centre: A courier service to ord er, collect and post
certificates of birth, marriage and death for England & Wales (1837 on) from The
Family Records Centre. Searches will cover 2 years i.e. eight quarters. Send a note
of name of person for whom a certifi cate is sought, place or area, and th e two years
to be searched; precise details if possi ble. Cost £8 .50. Overseas readers STERLING only please. Since the Census is now at the Fami ly Records Centre I
would be prepared to locate and copy a PREC ISE address ONLY, givi ng numl:lliL
street and district, for urban areas and do a search of a villa ge in rural areas. I am
afraid that I cannot undertake bl anket sea rch es of any area other than a SMALL
village as it takes too long. pec wills pre 1858 will be searched fo r and co pied on
receipt of full details. For both PCC wills and cens us the charge would be £2.50
per search. Please enclose an A5 stamped addressed envelope with your
requests, if more than 2 certificates or copies are requested the higher rate of
postage is needed.
To the Principal Probate Registry, a courier service to order, collect and
post copy Wills and Letters of Administration for Eng land & W ales (1858 on) from
First Avenue House. Search will cover 5 years. Cost £7. 00 for each search Please
send a note of name of deceased for whom a will is so ught, place or area, and the
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OFFERS OF HELP
Those responding to Offers of Help should enclose an SAE or IRCs as appropriate.
We welcome entries for both the HELP W ANTED and OFFERS OF HELP sections
of the Journal. Please send both queries and offers of help to Miss Caroline
Blackett, 58a London Road, Bromley, Kent, BR1 3QZ
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BACK COPIES OF FAM ILY TREE MAGAZIN E
Back copies available complete 1991 - 1997, 1998 missing January and February,
and 1999 complete. If either the Library at Hextable or a member would like these
please contact me at the address below to arrange collection. No reimbursement is
req uired but they must be collected.
Mr Frank Churchett, 89 Glentrammon Road, Green Street Green Orpington, BR6
6DG fi 0 16898558197
HELP WANTED
Those submitting Queries are expected to have already attempted a certain amount
of research before using this service. Please submit entries in the format as printed
below.
LOVER
DENNAHY
YOUNG(S)
NW KFHS
Mrs P A Gooding, 127 Raebum Road, Sidcup, DA 15 8RE
Would like to hear from anyone who recognises where the
following photo was taken, who the people are or if they
themselves have a copy. It was found in her father's 'box of
goodies' but he doesn't know whose wedding it is. She is
assuming that it belonged to her late grandmother Alice LOVER
formerly DE NNAHY nee YOUNG(S) . Alice lived in Woolwich and
Plumstead she thinks it must be her second marriage as the
group are dressed for warmer weather and she was married on
Christmas day the first time. E-mail gooding .rp@virgin .net
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COOPER
KNOTT
GRAY
CHEETHAM
Anne Crabb, 8 Lenham Close, Winnersh, Wokingham, RG41
1HR has a copy of a PCC will in which John COOPER, draper
and mercer of Guildford, Surrey leaves a property in
Wellingborough, Northants to William KNOTT the younger (aged
under 21, son of William KNOTT the elder of Deptford , Kent,
gentleman, by Henrietta, his late wife) and Sarah GRAY. This
younger William KNOTT is almost certainly the William Gray
KNOTT baptised 13 June 1796, son of William and Henrietta
May KNOTT, suggesting that the two beneficiari es were related.
If so, how? And how did a draper in Guildford own a property in
North ants, which he bequeathed to two people in Kent?
One intriguing, and possi bly releva nt, fact is that land tax records
show that the Northants property was previou sly owned by
widow CHEETHAM, and the Surrey apprenticeship records
show, in 1731, John COOPER, son of John of Northampton ,
cordwr to Thomas CH EETHAM of Southwark, watchmaker.
email: Acr9841748@aol.com
HANGAN
Margaret Ackland, 22 Manor Drive, Irthingborough, Northants,
NN95SL. Her new Australian daughter-in-law is descended from
John HANGAN transported to Australia in 1803. At his trial , he
was described as a stonemason, literate, born in Kent. There are
no HANGANs on the IGI and the 1881 census has only one
person of that name, a female living in Manchester. Has anyone
come across this su rname in their research or can give an
indication where further information can be found. The present
HANGANs are Roman Catholic so advice as to whether this
would influence re search would be appreciated.
DAV(E)Y
Mrs Helen Bultifude, 5 Geringa Avenue, Cooma North NSW
2630 Australia is seeking marriages for Richard DAVEY and
Ann, early 1790s and Solomon DAVEY and Elizabeth 18161821. Also Richa rd's baptism or perhaps Baptist birth
registration c1772; and those for Solomon c1796 and Robert
c1798. Robert says he was born in Erith -crucial records
damaged in a fire in 1877. Richard, Ann and Solomon are not
buried at Brasted , where the family lived from 181 9 onwards. But
their deaths are listed in the records of the Bessels Green
Baptist Chapel in 1834, 1833 and 1823 respectively. Richard ,
Solomon and Robert were all Brewers and Solomon's
widow Elizabeth ran The Stanhope Anns for some years after
his death. This is my maiden name and so any help would be
greatly appreciated. E-mail bulty@snowy.net.au
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KEBBLEI
KEEBLE
KIBBLE
Mrs J Luce, 43 Winchester Way, Willingdon, Nr Eastbourne,
Sussex, BN22 OJS is looking for the birth of Elizabeth
KEBBLE/KEEBLE/KIBBLE , "of Tonbridge" when she married
John CORKE from Seal on 24 Jan 1795.
CORKE
JENKINS
MOON
Also for the parents of Thomas JENKINS, agricultural labourer
born Cobham around 1791.
Also for the birth of Timothy MOON who married Mary
COLBRAN 10 October 1771 Tonbridge and died in Sevenoaks.
COLBRAN
Charles Pfeil, 48 Robin Way, Chipping Sodbury, Nr Bristol, BS37
6JWwonders whether anyone knows of a house called "The
Laurels" at 107 Masons Hill, Bromley. Also, one of ilis ancestors
owned a pawnbroker's shop in Bromley High Street where
Wesley-Barrell is now.
GOLDER
CRESSWELL
POOLE
BRIGHT
LEIGH
BIZLEY
NW KFHS
John Buckley-Golder, 176 Burntwood Road, Norion-Canes,
Staffordshire, WS11 3RL is interested in the GOLDER family
who lived at 2 Field Place, Lower Rd , Orpington in the late
1800s. His grandmother, Betsy (nee CRESSWELL) died there in
1894 and his grandfather, David, in 1933/4. The CRESSWELLs
were canal hauliers and their boat ran from the Midlands
coalfields to Oxford and London.
Email: l.Qhl}@Q.uc~ygo lder . worldonl i ne . co.uk
Susan Morris, 2 rue du Puits d'Arnour, 62200 Boulogne sur Mer,
France wonders whether anyone knows about the Mount
Hermon Orphanage, Sevenoaks. It was for girls and moved from
Kilburn to Sevenoaks in the late 19th century. She is particularly
interested in anyone who was there herself, or has a relative
who was there around 1918, or anyone who knew sisters
Florence Grace and Alice Hilda POOLE.
Email: ?usaJ:1•.LllQiIi~oste.net
Mrs Olive Hush,91 Chestnut Grove, Wilrnington, DA2 7Pqis
seeking descendants of her great grandparents William and Ann
BRIGHT. After moving from Bocking in Essex in 1868 they lived
in and around Parish Lane Penge until their deaths. Their eldest
daughter Eliza married a Robert LEIGH and they lived in
Wordsworth Road, Penge and were still there in 1925
She is also looking for descendants of her great grandparents
William and Mary BIZLEY who came from Devon to the Old Kent
Road in the 1860's. When William died Mary came to Penge in
the late 1890s together with her children .
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GODDARD
ALLWRIGH T
OAKES
BALLS
WARRY
PERRY
Sheila Duncombe, 54 Hawthorn Way, Shipston on Stour
Warwicks CV36 4FD would welcome information on any
of the following people. My maternal Grandfather Francis
George GODDARD left Dennetts Rd Deptford aged 8 in 1889 to
attend a Trust School in Oxfordshire. His father Harry
ALLWR IGHT GODDARD had died in 1887 and his mother Alice
(nee OAKES) had 4 other ch ildren, Alice Ethel b.1879, Harry
OAKES b.1880 , Kate Jeanette b1883, and Gladys Gertrude
b.1885. He never returned as his mother also died , in 1890.
Alice and Harry were in the Brixton Orphanage in 1891 I but
where were Kate and Gladys? Harry married Frances BALLS in
1903, Kate married Harry WARRY in 1903 and Gladys ma rri ed
Robert PERRY in 1904. None of them were witnesses at any of
the weddings; did they lose contact with each other as well? I
wou ld love it if there were some descendants out there with
whom I could make contact?
gordonduncombe@breathemai l.net
Mrs M Mansel/, 3 Ventnor Road, Gosport,Hants, P013 OPH is seeking
inform ation on her maternal grandmother Jessie PARKER shown on the
photo below marked with a cross . Can anyone identify the PARKER family
who lived in Half Way Street, Bexley ( now in Sidcup towards New Eltham).
Jessie 25 married William George W ILLl AMS at Lamorbey Parish Church
Bexley ( now Sidcup) on 27. 3.1897. They had three daughters Dorothy 1899,
Margaret 1900 and Mabel , my mother 1910. They lived in Chipley Street
Deptford and Woodbi ne Terrace, New Eltham. William worked as a gas and
engineer fitter. Jessie died in Dartford Union Workhouse in Jan 1915. Where
did William come from when he married Jessie and where did he go after she
died? Mabel was sent to foster parents in Essex.
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Mrs Ann Knight, 19 Broughton Road Ipswich, Suffolk IP1 3QR would like to
ask if anyone recognises anyone in the following photographs, which come
from a small album of postcard style photos wh ich belonged to her
Grandfather's fa mily. He was George SUNNU CKS a baker at Rosherville,
Northfleet Kent, her grandmother was known as Sella and they had 10
chi ldren . Any information on the Reg iment or the SUNN UC KS family would
be welcome.
Queen's Own Royal West Kent Reg WW1 ??? France
A Street party possibly after WW1
G Wa rd " One of the 'Soys'
Of Good Old 'S' Section"
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someone to do research in Bromley Library, particularly checking electoral registers
and street directories for the period 1906-1910. In return, she can do research in
the Gloucester area.
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interim one until the new fully comprehensive PROCAT if ready in 2001. The
electronic catalogue enables users to make more efficient use of their time at Kew,
having already obtained the references that they need. http://www.pro.gov.uk
The contract for the digitisation of the 1901 Census Project has now been
awarded to the Defence Evaluation & Research Agency (DERA). Details from
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INDEXES & RESEARCH AIDS
National Bu rial Index this has now been published obtainable from the FFHS
£ 30.00 including delivery
1851 CENSUS INDEX Leicester City on CD Rom
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Free BM D a project operated entirely by volunteers to computerise the main index
of bi rths, deaths and marriages. As these events are reported to the co-ordinators
they are added to the database, which are made freely available to all. Anyone
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Parish Register Transcription Society This Society was formed in April 1999
with the aim to publish transcripts of Parish Registers and is non profit making. A
catalogue of material available can be obtained from P. V Elmes, 50 Silvester
Road, Cowplain, Water/ooviJle, Hampshire, P08 8 TL mail@prtsoc.org.uk
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BOOK REVIEWS
SPECIALIST INDEXES for Family Historians 2nd (2000) Ed. by Jeremy Gibson
and Elizabeth Hampson ISBN : 1860061257 Publ : F.F.H.S.(Publications) Ltd. £3.95
As a finding aid, this book is a rich source for everyone who wants to flesh
out the bones of his ancestors. Apart from marriage and Census indexes (in a
separate book, ) the private and public holdings are so numerous and varied , it is a
treasure chest: from Comb makers to Criminals , Ships to Sheriffs, the Gas Industry
to Gamekeepers, Militia Musters to M. I.s, Persons and Places; it's all there.
The book begins with national holdings and is then arranged in order of
the old counties, followed by non-localised indexes such as Migration , the Services,
Occupations and Miscellaneous. This book leaps to the top of my 'Must Have' book
list.
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MARRIAGE and CENSUS INDEXES for Family Historians 8th (2000) Ed. by
Jeremy Gibson and Elizabeth Hampson ISBN: 1860061249 Publ: F.F .H.S.
(Publ ications) Ltd. £3.50
This is the compan ion book to the one described above. I was surprised to
learn what a vast number of parishes have been indexed both privately and by the
F.H.Societies for marriages / licences, etc. , saving a lot of trawling th rough
reg isters.
Were you aware that the Census records exist from well before 1841 in
some places? Jersey , for instance: the inhabitants of one pari sh were listed in
1788! In Ireland there are lists of Protestants in 1740. How about Corfe Castle 1790-1, and others. And there are Census listi ngs for regiments, emigrants,
coastguard s, strays and others, all in addition to the regular 1841- 1891 indexes. A
useful book to have access to.
An introduction to POOR LAW DOCUMENTS BEFORE 1834 2nd Ed. by Ann
Cole ISBN : 1860061273 £3 .95 Pub!. F.F.H.S. (Pu blications) Ltd.
Poor Law documents can touch people in every strata of society, not just paupers.
The local admin istrators , for a start, were often the wea lthy gentry, or the learned
clergy. Everyone wishing to travel elsewhere needed certificates, proof of
settlement. Those who fell upon hard times cou ld seek the hel p of the Parish, and
true paupers or those who fell foul of the law were documented, too . This book
clearly interprets all these aspects of poor law records, which, if extant in the area
of your ancestors, can help you to understand how they lived , where they came
from and clarify some relationships . A very informative guide.
An introduction to FRIENDLY SOCIETY RECORDS
by Roger Logan. ISBN: 186006115 X £3 .95 Publ: F.F. H. S. (Publications) Ltd.
Friendly Societies were, in a sense , the fore runners of the 'welfare state . '
There aim was for people to form them selves into societies for the 'mutual relief and
maintenance in old age, sickness and infirmity, or fo r the relief of the widows and
children of deceased members.' One such society existed as early as 1738. By
1803 some 38% of English families were connected to Friendly Societies, and a
definite culture under-pinned the movement. An understa ndi ng of their history, how
they operated , and useful sources to see their records , all clearly laid out in this
book, can en hance and provide vital new evidence for your fa mily history.
Available from FFHS Publications Ltd, Unit 16 Chesham Industrial Centre, Gram
Street, Bury, Lanes, BL9 6EN 1if 0161 7973843 Fax 016 1 79 7 3846
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OBITUARIES
Peter GOS NEY
Peter sadly died foll owing an accident. He will be missed by the Society fo r all his
hard work behi nd the scenes and willingness to do anythi ng that he could fo r the
cau se of Family History. We would like to convey our condolences to his family for
the ir sudden loss. Over 12 members attended his funeral.
Edna Lucy ANTROBUS . 19th August 1908 to 28th March 2001 .
Edna was quite a rema rkable lady, the daughter of William Ernest CHARD
and Lucy Elizabeth , and great grand-daughter of Thomas ELKIN GTON, the
proprietor of "the Woodm an, a public house in Sydenham . Her grandfather, W illiam
CHARD of Marylebone ,had married Alice Elizabeth ELKINGTON at St
Bartholomew's Church in Sydenham in 1881 .
Edna had been intere$ted in genea logy for several years and was one of
the fou nder members of North West Kent Fa mily History Society. It was beca use of
th is mutual interest that we met.
She wa s a member of the Society of Genealogists, the Townswomen's
Guild , and at one ti me one of the most talented actre sses in the St George's
Players at Beckenham Church.
She was also a poet and many of her poems have been published . She
wrote articles for magazines , and when she was 85 , with very failing eyesight, she
wrote part of the sto ry of her life for 'Bygone Kent'. Other peri ods of ti me are
covered in my books ' FOREST HILL' and' WARTIM E MEMORIES'
In 1982 she had a very se rious operation , but she survived and carried on
without complaint. W hen $he became nearly bl ind she fou nd life even harder, but
she still man aged to contin ue by choice and stubbornn ess, to live on had some
excellent friends and helpers who assisted he r, and helped her to maintain her
independence. Thi s wa s very important to her, and she managed until she fell over
one day and could-not get herself off the floor.
Edna spent a few weeks in Orpington Hospital, but gradually she lost her
strength and age beat her. She was a great fighter, an d I shall mi ss our talks over
the phone. I shall remember her as a very sprightl y and bright ninety yea r old, who
was still capable of dancing and joking nearly up to her end.
I thin k Edna would like to be called a 'free spirit' now.
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