254 - Dec 1, 2013 - Days of Our Lives

DAYS OF OUR LIVES #254
MAIL call - PRESERVING FORGOTTEN MEMORIES
Your memories are most welcome to the ASA Turkey DAYS OF OUR LIVES and is an
effort on my part to preserve the stories and memories of ASA veteran’s who served in
Turkey during the COLD WAR with the Soviet Union. I will respond to all emails and will
assist whenever needed, but reserve the right to edit for content and clarity and
welcome any errors that may appear herein.
FIFTY-FOUR YEARS TOGETHER
Thanksgiving day 2013 was a significant day for us in that it was our 54th year of
marriage. WOW – that’s a long time! I’m 77 and Patty is 74. We celebrated & shared
thanksgivings with our youngest son and his fiancé and her extended family. Also our
daughter-in-law sent a dozen red roses from Alaska. The O’briens, Jack & Kay, ASA
Turkey friends also sent a wedding card.
Here’s an up-date on our friend Harold (Hal) Winkler – better known as “Winkie”. I
called Winkie on Thanksgiving and he sounded great and informs that he’s feeling much
better and had just returned from a flight to Atlanta. His spirits are high and he’s
anxious to find out where the 2014 reunion will be held.
OMG….. I had DOOL #254 almost finalized the day before Thanksgiving and low and behold I
SOMEHOW lost it somewhere within my PC and, - yes, I had to re-do it and just might have missed some
photo’s and tidbits. This is the third time it has happened to me…. Any suggestions?
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At the reunion there was a meeting to discuss who will volunteer to host the 2014 reunion and where to
hold it. There were no volunteers. Lancaster, PA is still high on the list as is Rehoboth Beach in Delaware,
Buffalo, Niagara Falls, Chicago, Cleveland, Akron, York, PA and several other sites.
In planning a reunion – the budget and other expenses add up quickly. We did our level best to provide
the most cost effective sleeping room rates and entertainment at a reasonable price. Attending the 2013
reunion wasn’t cheap. For example the overall cost ranged from $290 to $570 plus transportation. This
year we had 14 new veteran’s & 40 oldtimers present. For 2014 we intend to likewise keep the cost
reasonable. Thus plan ahead.
During the reunion we sold 50/50 raffle tickets to raise money for our treasury and to assist Bill Simons
and Chuck Bergmann with website and relay activities relating to the monthly DOOL’s. Maureen McCoy
won $125/
Bill Hartranft send me a memory check list about his youthful days as a ditty-bopper at Manzarali Station.
It was in the DOOL that was mysteriously deleted, but he still evaded answering why he avoids attending
the reunions. If so, let me know.
I lost two kudos emails from Jim Crane and Ralph Richter and I thank them for their thoughtfulness.
The main speaker at the 2013 ASA Turkey reunion was to be retired Colonel William P. Walters who
spent 34 years in the ASA/INSCOM. He and his wife had just returned from a Germany vacation and both
developed flu like symptons and had to cancel.
The editor PVT E2 Elder RC Green at Chitose, Japan in 1955
The Editor: GREEN, Elder RC (gH & Al), YOB: 1936, RA13513638, E7, 982/98C, Det
27, 1-15MY61, Det 120, MY-JL65, Det 27, JN66-OC67 & Det 4-4, OC67-NO68,
(Patty), 3094 Warren Rd., Indiana, PA 15701, 724-471-4899,
asagreenhornet@comcast.net Ret 1SG, E8 –
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ASA TURKEY HATS & SHIRTS FOR SALE
Max Putter informs that he will take Christmas orders for the below shown HATS & SHIRTS.
The cost per hat is $10. and the polo shirts will be $17 per shirt as shown below.
To order either call Max Putter at 609-823-2545 or send email to nashswim@aol.com
Each hat will have the Det number on the back as shown below
SEND IN YOUR REQUEST TODAY, NOT TOMORROW
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A LOOK BACK AT THE 2013 REUNION
This welcome banner was made by the Valley Forge CVB in 2011
THE NORTH MYRTLE BEACH CVB WAS CONTACTED BUT DID NOT ASSIST
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The photo takers
The walkers walking to the photo taking site
THE DETACHMENT PHOTO’S
Det 27 Veterans
1st row: Hank Rotzal, Luther Jones, Ken Whitman, Elder Green, *Jerry Moon, Max Putter, Ed Jones, Mike Comroe
2nd row: Ataturk Armstrong, Bob Bentley, Chuck Bergmann, Barry Wenger, Tom Lazzara, Tom Fittante, Dan Levy
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Det 4 Veterans
1 row: Bill Pruitt, Jim Houghton, John Owen,*Bill Childress, Arnold Steffen, Chuck Brown, Sonny
Ausbrooks, Chuck Malsch, *Bill Garner. 2nd row: Rick Asper, *Dean Lapp, Jay Goodman, Jack O’brien, Jim
Cox & *Gene Schnagl *Denotes 1st timers
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Det 4-4
1st row: Sid Gilman, *Ed McCants, *Wayne Ervin, *Jerry Moon, Elder Green, Bender, Rod Isler, Chuck
Carpenter 2nd row: *Greg Kearney, *Bob Stewart, *Clay Lifto, *Walt Haase, Jim Moore, Tom Cavanaugh,
Phil Taggart *Denotes 1st timers
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THE HOST’S OF THE 2013 REUNION
A WORD FROM THE HOST’S OF THE 2013 REUNION – Luther Mac and Edna Jones
Merhaba - We would like to thank you all for making 2013 a great Reunion. We had slightly over 100
registrations this year making it the largest we have ever attended.I hope everyone had a safe return to
their homes and enjoyed themselves. We had a great time hosting this year. We would like to thank those
who helped and the generosity that was shown in making the hospitality room a great success. That
generosity was responsible for the taco bar, flaming desert bar, and the open bar on Sunday night as well
as the Bloody Mary breakfast on Wednesday morning. I think everyone enjoyed the Alabama Theatre and
meal at T-Bonz as well as Maxwell's on Tuesday night.We tried to find the best values and quality for your
evenings as possible. If you enjoyed yourselves please contact your old ASA friends and invite them to
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our 2014 reunion.We would like to also thank Max Putter for furnishing hats and shirts for all the
attendees and also for door prizes,and others who donated our door prizes this year.We would like to get
feed-back from you to help make our reunions even better and let us know the negative as well as
positive. Suggestions Welcome. Luther & Edna
As mentioned above the North Myrtle Beach CVB was supposed to deliver a welcome packet, but did
not. I prepared a welcome letter which included the agenda and the names, by detachment , which
gave the attendees the opportunity to correspond with others after the reunion. Those rosters follow:
TUSLOG DET 27 ATTENDEE’S
ARMSTRONG, Ataturk, 059, Det 27, 60-62, 1007 Colony Dr., New Bern, NC 28562, 252-637-2525
BALL, Dick & Debbie, 341, Det 27, 62-63, 10 Heritage Dr., Lancaster, NY 14086, 716-685-9129,
docpwrball@msn.com
BENTLEY, Bob & Evelyn, 058, Det 27, 63-64, 19507 Dunlay Springs Dr., Cypress,TX, 281-463-7489,
rkbentley1@verizon.net
BERGMANN, Chuck & Helen, 058, Det 27, 66-67, 29813 Foote Rd., Bay Village, OH 44140, 440-971-5346,
cbergmann@inspectionengineering.com
COMROE, Mike & Jane, 059, Det 27, 205 Pinetown Rd., Audubon, PA 19403, 610-666-7402,
pennstateblue@verizon.net
FITTANTE, Tom & Carol Coppola, 988BU, Det 27, 61-63, P.O. Box 59, New Waterford, OH 44445, 330-4572950, tom@garlandwelding.com
GREEN, Elder & Patty, 982, Det’s 27, 120, 4-4, 3094 Warren Rd., Indiana, PA 15701, 724-471-4899,
asagreenhornet@comcast.com
JONES, Ed & Flo, Det 27, 62-65,5209 NE 34th St., Vancouver,WA 98661, 503-805-2180, elspec1@live.com
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JONES, Luther & Edna, 058, Det 27, 62-63, 307 Magnolia Dr., Sunset Beach, NC 28468, 910-575-4562,
edmac@atmc.net
LAZZARA, Tom, 058, Det 27, 63-66, 556 Central St., Leominster, MA 01453, 978-534-7051,
tommylazzara@msn.com
LEVY, Dan, Det 27, 61-62, P.O. Box 217, Negret, LA 71460, 318-286-7573, no email
LIENKE, Wes & Sharyn, Det 27. 63-65, River Falls, WI., 612-670-9809
LIFTO, Clay & Ruth, Det 27 & 4-4, 1715 Purdue Dr., Fayetteville, NC 20834, 319-360-7108,
clifto@kirkwood.cc.rr.com
PUTTER, Max & Carol, Det 27, 60-62, 20 N Nashville, Ventnor City, NJ 08406, 609-823-2545,
nashswim@aol.com
ROTZAL, Hank & Helena, Det 27, 64-65, 191 Meadow Brook Rd., Oxford, CT 06478, 203-888-9952,
henryrotzal@comcast.net
SIEBENALER, Frank & Judy, Det 27, 62-64, 1213 N. Lake Shore Dr., Lake City, MN 55041, 651-345-4477,
frsiebenaler@gmail.com
SMITH, Howard & Lynne, Det 27, 1996 Heritage Loop, Myrtle Beach, SC 29577, 803-312-4617,
howlyn120267@gmail.com
STEWART, Bob & Carolyn, Det 27 & 4-4, 67-69, 738 Turkey Creek, Alachua, FL 32615, 386-462-4801,
gogators738@windstream.net
TAGGART, Phil, Det 27 & 4-4, 66-69, 902 Morgan Dr., Indianapolis, IN 46227, 317-362-0586,
ptaggart@lifelineyouth,org & philtaggart@juno.com
WENGER, Barry & Sharon, Det 27, 62-64, 375 Clousen Hollow Rd., New Bloomfield, PA 17068, 717-582-4922
WHITMAN, Ken & Judi, Det 27, 62-64, 12 Dutch Dr., Rehoboth Beach, DE 19971, 302-227-2543,
seadevil18@comcast.net
TUSLOG DET 4 ATTENDEE’S
ASPER, Rick & Carol, Det 4, 66-67, 1485 N.E. 57th Ct., Fort Lauderdale, FL 954-328-2149
AUSBROOKS, Sonny & Elaine, Det 4, SE64-SE65, 8552 Doveton Cir., Vienna, VA 22182, 703-356-7247,
auscb@verizon.net
BROWN, Chas & Lori, Det 4, 66-67, Robesonia, PA 610-693-6684
CHILDRESS, Bill & Vickie, 98J, Det
4, 4160 Fries Bay Rd, Loris, SC 29519, 843-756-0996, sunburn43@sccoast.net
COX, Jim & Vicki, MP, Det 4, 66-67, 2312 Veranda Trce, Gadston, AL 35903, 256-492-4249,
jcoxmsg@comcast.net
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DYER, Wayne & Toni, Det 4, 68-69, 14 Mountain View Dr., Groton, VT 05046, 802-584-3730,
diatribe@charter.net
GARNER, Bill, 059 Det 4, 68, 609 S. Main St., Red Springs, NC 28377, 910-843-3553, wgarner440@aol.com
GOODMAN, Jay & Darla Buys, MP, Det 4, 72-73, 7 KOA Campground, Washington, PA 15301, 412-818-6009,
HOUGHTON, Jim & Sally, Det 4, 56-57, 124 Lindberg Ave., Johnstown, PA, 15905 jeh_124@verizon.net
JOHNSON, John, 98J, Det 4, 67-68, Fishers, IN 317-796-2023, johnjjohn@sbcglobal.net
LAPP, Dean & Deborah, Det 4, 66, 3629 Trails End Dr., Medina, OH 44256, 330-723-3629, lappda@hotmail.com
MALSCH, Charles & Joan, Det 4, 64-65, 518 Hillcrest Ln., Lindenhurst, IL 60046, 847-356-6497,
Charles_malsch@sbcglobal.net
McCANTS, Ed & Annegell, Det 4 & 4-4, 69-71, Moncks Corner, SC 843-899-680
O’BRIEN, Jack & Kay, Det 4, 64-65, Beaver Creek, OH 937-426-4433
OSSWALD, Ozzie & Norene, 98J, Det 4, 64-65, Hudson, NY 518-828-6492,
OWEN, John & Janette, Det 4, 64-65, 5057 NE 130th Ave., Elkhart, IA 50073, 515-367-3412,
jwowen@iowatelecom.net
PRUITT, Bill & Carolyn, Det 4, 64-65 & 76-77, 350 Steeplechase Dr., Campbellsville, KY 42178, 270-465-6371,
bobcarol1@windstream.net
SCHNAGL, Gene & Kathy, 98J, Det 4, 63-64, Franklin, WI, 414-856-2910, eschnagl@wi.rr.com
STEFFEN, Arnold & Janet, Det 4, 58-59, 1043 Old Humboldt Rd., Jackson, TN 38305, 731-664-5058,
asteffen4@aol.com
TUSLOG DET 4-4 ATTENDEE’S
BENDER, Bill, Det 4-4, 70-71, 6700 SW 113th Pl., Ocala, FL 34476, 352-854-9122, bender6700@deccacable.com
CARPENTER, Chuck & Tomi, Det 4-4, 68-70, 3200 26th St., Great Bend, KS 67530, 620-792-6278,
washroof@yahoo.com
CAVANAUGH, Tom & Louise, South Hadley, MA, 98C, Det 4-4, 69-71, 413-532-5294, tcholyoke@comcast.net
ERVIN, Wayne & Kay, Det 4-4, 70-71, 165 Highland Park Cir., Brunswick, GA 31523, daddyerv@comcast.net
GILMAN, Sid, Det 4-4, 67-69, Cambridge, MA 617-497-8258, algilman@comcast.net
GREEN, Elder & Patty, Det’s 27, 120, 4-4, 3094 Warren Rd., Indiana, PA 15701, 724-471-4899,
asagreenhornet@comcast.com
HAASE, Walt,Det 4-4,98C68-71,CumberlandGap,TN 423-489-6869 wjh408@yahoo.com
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ISLER, Rod & Kyuhee, Det 4-4, 68-70, 1703 Mansion Ridge Rd., Annapolis, MD 410-849-3482, goaisler@aol.com
KEARNEY, Greg & Lonnie, Det 4-4, 68-71, 11426 Brawley Rd., Hesperia, CA 92345, 760-949-5731,
gpkearney@aol.com
LIFTO, Clay & Ruth, Det 27 & 4-4, 1715 Purdue Dr., Fayetteville, NC 20834, 319-360-7108,
clifto@kirkwood.cc.rr.com
LOVELL, Howie & Sheila, Det 4-4, 5204 Sandy Shoals Ln., Snellville, GA 30087, 770-498-8333,
hlovd@comcast.net
McCANTS, Ed & Annegell, 98C, Det 4 & 4-4, 69-71, 324 Pineland Ln., Moncks Corner, SC 29461, 843-899-680,
mccants@homesc.com
MOON, Jerry & Lorraine, Det 4-4, 4601 Schwerin Lake Dr., Corpus Christie, TX 22031, 361-877-9114,
jerrymoon@mac.com
MOORE, Jim & Linda, Det 4-4, 69-71, 9118 Santayana Dr., Fairfax, VA 22031, 703-280-2726,
jbm@jbmoorecpa.com
STEWART, Bob & Carolyn, Det 27 & 4-4, 67-69, 738 Turkey Creek, Alachua, FL 32615, 386-462-4801,
gogators738@windstream.net
TAGGART, Phil, Det 27 & 4-4, 66-69, 902 Morgan Dr., Indianapolis, IN 46227, 317-783-1729,
ptaggart@lifelineyouth,org & philtaggart@juno.com
WHITAKER, Berton & Harriet, Det 4-4, 68-69, 270-825-3773, bwhitake@trover.org
Below is a scanned page 1 of 3 that was used to keep track of what each person had signed up for during
the reunion. It also was later used to keep track of the photo’s in this DOOL. It might now take a 981 to
decipher the scribblings.
Below begins the flow of photo’s taken during the reunion
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Patty Green
Frank & Judy Siebenaler
Patty Green
Above is the only photo’s of those walking the beach opposite the Beach Cove Resort
A VERY GENEROUS TURKEY VETERAN AND HIS WIFE
Rick & Carol Asper from Fort Lauderdale, Florida
Throughout the reunion Rick Asper could be spotted on his Segway. He needed it as his suite was on the
far end of the 16th floor. On Sunday eve from 5:30 to 8:30 pm Rick & Carol sponsored a TACO BAR meal
with all the trimmings in the hospitality room. The desert consisted of a Flaming Dessert Station which
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was enjoyed by all. There was a wet bar with a hosted premium liquor set up nearby. This event was
similar to the CREPES meal that Rick & Carol sponsored at the Valley Forge reunion in 2011.
ANOTHER VERY GENEROUS TURKEY VETERAN AND HIS WIFE
Max & Carol Putter from Ventnor City, New Jersey
Max has been making embroidered baseball type caps for the veteran’s since 2007
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Above is Frank Siebenaler from Lake City, MN describing why he kept the Trick 2 platoon roster of 1963.
In 1963 he was known as Sgt Francis A. Siebenaler and was the Asst. Platoon Sgt of the 2nd Platoon
Below is that roster that has my scribblings trying to find those 93 vets thereon.
Of the 93 only 16 have been found and 5 of those attend the reunions almost every year. They are
Frank Siebenaler, Ken Whitman, Tom Lazzara, Bill Cook and Barry Wenger. It is hoped that those 5 try to
locate the other 93 veterans.
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Above is Tom Lazzara, one of those 5 former members of Trick 2 at Manzarali. I was sitting on the patio
and heard someone calling my name. Got up, looked – then noticed that it was Tom calling. It was Tom
who downloaded the photo’s from my camera onto a CD along with his photo’s. Quite a few of those
photo’s are included in this DOOL. Thanks Tom.
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Elaine and Sonny Ausbrooks
Dick & Debbie Ball from Lancaster, NY
Bill Bender, Det 4-4
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Ret SFC E7, Charles & Lori Brown
The Cavanaugh’s, Tom & Louise from South Hadley, MA
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Above is Bill Garner from Red Springs, NC. Bill was born in 1940. Joined the ASA in December 1957 and
retired as a Command Sgt Major (E9) in December 1987 with 30 years and 7 days active duty.
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Ed & Flo Jones from Vancouver, WA. Yes – they drove almost 3000 miles to attend the reunion. Flo’s
name was the second name drawn in the door prize drawing – her choice was a Lenox Camel, an afghan
or a Bowie Knife. Guess which one she chose? Nope – it was the Bowie knife.
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John Johnson, 09J, Det 4 from Fishers, Indiana
The Lapp’s from Medina, Ohio – Dean and Deborah – This was their first reunion
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The Lienke’s, Wesley and Sharyn from River Falls, WI. It was Sharyn who donated the beautiful afghan
for the main door prize.
Clay and Ruth Lifto from Fayetteville, NC. This was their first reunion. Shortly after starting the DOOL’s
– I started receiving emails with excellent clues from someone who worked for me at Det 27 & 4-4 in
Turkey. That person also said he met me at II Field Force Tactical Operational Center in Long Bien
where I was the Assistant ASA Briefing person for the 3-star Commander for II Field Force. I was dumbfounded and still could not remember his name. I gave up and he ID’d himself as none other than the
above Clay Lifto. Of course I remember Clay Lifto. He arrived as a PFC Russian Linguist. No slots
available. He was assigned to TA and did outstanding work on the MATSUM and ended up as a Trick
Chief. Clay served 28 years in the Army, 10 of which were on active duty. During that period he earned
23 service medals and is a Life Member of the DAV.
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Chuck & Joan Malsch from Lindenhurst, Illinois
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Jerry & Lorraine Moon from Corpus Christie, Texas
Jim & Linda Moore from Fairfax, VA. Jim is a very busy CPA & wouldn’t tell me about the Vlack Eye.
Howie & Sheila Lovell from Snellville, Georgia
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Jack & Kay O’brien from Beaver Creek, Ohio
98J’s
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Above is 2 retired E-8’s
The always smiling Pruitt’s from Campbellsville, KY
Hank & Helena Rotzal from Oxford, Connecticut
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Gene & Kathy Schnagl from Franklin, Wisconsin. This was the first reunion for them
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For the so to speak ‘doubting Tom’s’ – the meal at TBONZ and the ONE show at the Alabama Theater
was just as I predicted and did WOW everyone and yep 91 people walked away from the TBONZ meal
and the Alabama Theater show repeating “Fantastic meal and show” – Well worth the $49.50 per person
for both when the Alabama theater tickets normally range from 34.95 to 45.95. Most everyone laughed at
the stagehand Ricky Mokel’s jokes & gestures which kept all in stitches from start to finish. Also the
costumes and props for the 3 hour show were glitzy and professional. No photo taking was allowed
during the ONE show.
Below are photo’s taken at the TBONZ restaurant.
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Maj Gen (Ret) Rod Isler and his wife Kuyhee
Not too many ASA units can say that they had a SP5 ditty-bopper within their ranks who retired as a MG.
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Above is a photo that I took from a framed picture in General Isler’s den at their home in Annapolis, MD.
In the background is Rod as a young boy in Colorado. That 2005 visit was quite intoxicating and I wasn’t
sure what questions to ask, keeping in mind that I’m a old retired First Sergeant. That meeting went
well and we now call the Isler’s are friends. When I lost the first edition of #254 – I also lost the write-up
on Rod Isler. Ohh… before I forget Rod was drafted and then enlisted for the ASA.
Rod Isler speaking at the banquet
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BELOW IS SOME PHOTO’S OF THE DET 4-4 ATTENDEE’S. Of these - it was Bob Stewart & Greg Kearney
who rallied the 4-4 people to attend the reunion.
The youngest of the ASA detachments in Turkey was 4-4 which was transferred from Manzarali Station
(Det 27) to Karamursel Air Station in September-October 1967.
Rod Isler and Greg Kearney
Rod Isler and Bob Stewart
Elder Green & Tom Cavanaugh – This is the second reunion for Tom
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Taggart, Gilman, Kearney, Lovell & Stewart
Kearney, Gilman, Whitaker & Taggart
In the Beach Cove Resort lobby
Bob and Carolyn Stewart, Bert and Harriett Whitaker, Greg and Lonnie Kearney, and Arthur "Sid" Gilman.
Stationed together 1968-1969 Karamursel, Turkey. Missing in the above photo is Phil Taggert who took
the pix, but here he is below with Bert Whitaker. Bert’s real tag is Edgel Berton Whitaker.
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Phil Taggart & Bert Whitaker
Sid Gilman
Sid Gilman, Howie Lovell, Phil Taggart & Bob Stewart
Sid Gilman, 4-4, Russian linguist
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Phil Taggart, 4-4, ditty-bopper
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THIS IS A PORTION OF WHAT TOOK PLACE DURING THE 2013 ASA TURKEY REUNION
IF YOU ENJOYED IT – LET ME KNOW, if not, I’ll know U didn’t
Elder RC Green, 3094 Warren Rd., Indiana, PA 15701, 724-471-4899, asagreenhornet@comcast.net
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