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“The Quality of Service is Remembered Long After The
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September 2005
No:31
Editorial:
Welcome to Coupé News No: 31.
Your free newsletter of Pullman related news and material.
My thanks to those readers who have supplied articles and photographs which
have been included within this edition.
All I ask of you for the time I spend in production is for you to forward on, either
by e-mail or printing a copy, to any one you may know who will be interested.
Information is for sharing - not gathering dust…..
If you have any material for inclusion in No.32, please forward by
September 28th. Coupé News No.32 will be published on October 1st.
Editorial Address:
Have you missed a copy of Coupé News, or changing your e-mail address, or
wish to be removed from the mailing list. Please e-mail to the address below with
your request, it’s as simple as that.
Terry Bye
Pullman Car Services
Email: pullmancarservices@yahoo.co.uk
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PULLMAN OF THE MONTH.
If you have a Pullman Photograph you would like to share with fellow readers all
you have to do is forward to me in jpg, also some detail on content will be of
benefit also.
Copyright R. Lush.
Hi Terry
I hope a fellow reader might be able to give me some information on the above
photograph of a Pullman body which I photographed at the back of Hellifield shed
way back in 1966.
I seem to remember similar Pullman bodies at Skipton and may be
Bradford Forster Square.
Any help from readers will be much appreciated
Robin Lush
P3.
Last months photograph of Mk1 car S/No.319 ‘RAVEN’ Kitchen First.
The following response has been received from Simon Lee.
Dear Terry,
The location is the North side carriage sidings at Hull Paragon, photo taken from
Platform 1, which were mainly used for the Hornsea and Withernsea branch
trains. The area is now a car park, I'll try and put a date to the photo within a year
or three !!. The car must be standing spare for the Yorkshire Pullman.
Look Back at Pullman:
1915.
September 12th, Third Class Pullman cars included on the London Brighton &
South Coast Railway. Covering two Brighton and one Eastbourne Services.
September 30th, The Pullman Car Company is formed (1915 – 1962) to take over
the British Pullman Car Company. 74 Pullman cars and contracts with the
London Brighton & South Coast railway, South Eastern & Chatham Railway
Caledonian Railway and Metropolitan Railway companies.
Pullman schedule number scheme commences.
1925.
September 19th, Due to poor patronage the “Manchester Pullman” is withdrawn
(commenced July 12th). The stock is used on the “West Riding/Yorkshire
Pullman”.
September 21st, The 11.10 Kings Cross – Leeds Pullman introduced. Two cars
forward to Bradford with arrival at 15.00.
The Edinburgh Pullman is re-routed non-stop to Harrogate via Shaftholme Jctn,
Church Fenton and Tadcaster.
1930.
September (no date), Great Western railway Pullman services withdrawn, this
includes “Boat Trains”.
(Month unknown), Southern Railway places orders worth £1/2 million for electrical
equipment for electric trains required for the electrification to Reigate, Brighton
and Worthing.
Included is equipment for 3 x 5 car units (not specified as Pullmans).
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1935.
September 30th, The “West Riding Pullman” service is withdrawn.
From its ashes is born the “Yorkshire Pullman”.
The all new London North Eastern Railway “Silver Jubilee” service linking Kings
Cross to Newcastle is the reason for the demise of the “West Riding Pullman”.
The “Yorkshire Pullman” serves Harrogate, Halifax, Leeds and Hull. (This is
Hull’s first Pullman service).
The Harrogate and Leeds portions of the train are joined at Wakefield by the
Halifax portion being attached. Finally the Hull portion is attached at Doncaster.
(Month unknown). An ex Midland Railway Pullman car was noted at Bath Queen
Square station. The report does not identify if this car is operational or just a body
located line side, as it is known an ex-MR car body was located at this location.
1955.
September 19th. The Pullman supplementary fares increased.
1960.
September 6th, an unidentified 5 Bel “Brighton Belle” unit is noted at Waterloo,
(This is thought to be the first visit of a 5 Bel unit to Waterloo).
It was reported as a boat special from Portsmouth.
September 12th, Inaugural operations day for Blue Pullman sets on the Western
Region. The “Birmingham Pullman” and “Bristol Pullman” services.
September 18th. Noted hauling the “down” working of the “Golden Arrow” Battle
of Britain class 4-6-2 Pacific No.34088 “213 Squadron”.
September 28th, Inaugural operations day on the Eastern region of the first four
new Mk1 Pullman Cars.
The “Master Cutler” Pullman cars consist of EAGLE, FALCON, AMBER &
CAR No.332.
No new Brake Parlours to the Mk1 design were ordered, and the P.C.Co.
undertook conversions or refurbishments of the following cars.
CAR No.67, 68, 69, 70, 71 72, 81 & 82 all conversions to Brake Parlours from
wooden built Kitchen Cars.
Car No.77, 78, 79 & 80 all steel construction Brake Parlours of 1928 build are
refurbished.
All these cars have the new elongated Pullman coat of arms applied, to match
the new Mk1 cars.
The Brake Parlours have been allocated: 4 x “Queen of Scots”.
2 x “Yorkshire Pullman”.
2 x “Tees Tyne Pullman”.
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2 x “Master Cutler”.
2 x Spare.
1965.
September 5th, Final departure of the “Up” working of the “Bournemouth Belle”
from Bournemouth West Station.
1975.
September, Shildon 150 Exhibition. Ex Pullman cars 301 (PERSEUS) & 308
(CYGNUS) still in Golden Arrow blue/grey livery on display at Shildon C&W
Works. At this stage in the cars history they are owned by Scottish and
Newcastle Brewery’s. Also on display but in Bulmer’s livery is (305) AQUILA.
1985.
September 27th, Press run of the “Tees Tyne Pullman” in a shortened HST set
consisting vehicles 43038, 41065, 40505, 41066, 40734 & 43158.
During the run to Kings Cross from Newcastle the train attained a speed of
140mph.
September 30th, the inaugural public operation of the “Tees Tyne Pullman”.
Prior to this the service was operated under the branding of the “Newcastle
Executive”
(The previous “Tees Tyne Pullman” service was withdrawn in 1976).
Attendants Service:
The following requests for help in relation to historical data have been received
and are now posted in the hope that a fellow reader may be able to help.
Unless otherwise stated, please reply to the editorial address.
Table 1.
Empty.
P6.
Attendants Mail Box:
MB 1.
Terry - thanks for the latest edition of Coupe News. Fascinating as ever.
While I'm 'here', could I ask you how I can get a copy of the latest edition of your
preservation list, which I see mentioned from time to time in Coupe News.
Also, do you know of any site that deals with CIWL coaches to the same extent
as you do for Pullmans?
Cheers......Andy Rogers.
Editors Response: Andy, details on CIWL can be answered by contacting
The Wagons-Lits Society c/o Rob Heron, 1 Morton Road,
Great Totham, Maldon, Essex CM9 8QB.
Subscription rates:
UK £12.-, Europe £12.-, Worldwide £15.In respect of your request with regard to the 2005 Pullman Car Preservation List
I have forwarded a copy to you as an e-mail attachment.
MB 2.
Geoff Cox responds.
The rather disgruntled Mr. Tod Sloan has a rather rambling question about prewar LNER all-Pullman trains. He starts off by asking about the ‘Yorkshire
Pullman’, then lists the cars allocated to one of the two ‘Harrogate Pullman’ sets
in 1923. Then asks if that formation remained until the war, he doesn’t seem to
realise that the ‘Harrogate Pullman’ became two trains each with two sets of 6
cars in Sep 1925, then officially named the ‘West Riding Pullman’ and ‘Queen of
Scots’ in 1927.
He then seems to go off at a tangent asking about Arcadia and Ansonia when
down classed to 3rds, suggesting that they were used on the ‘Harrogate Pullman’.
Well the opposite was the case as they originally went on the train as 1st class
Brake Parlours in 1924 but were displaced by ‘steel’ cars in 1928, then worked
on the ends of the ‘Eastern Belle’ each summer from 1929 until the war. They
were remodelled as 3rds in 1934 and probably used as spares for the ‘steel’ Brake
Parlours on the winter ‘Queen of Scots’.
I detail below which might clarify things, or possibly add even more confusion.
P7.
The Harrogate Pullman train formations.
This train was the result of a proposal by Harrogate Corporation, at a time when
the LNER was looking at ways of making profitable use of the 20 Pullman cars
(and another 6 under construction) that it inherited from 15 year GER contracts.
It was therefore no surprise that the LNER and the Pullman Car Co embraced
the proposal wholeheartedly. Finally two 6-car train sets were decided upon,
each starting from opposite ends of the route.
It was a new venture for both the LNER and the PCC, so instead of using the
original 20 GER cars is was decided to use 12 new cars, eight 3rds built by
Clayton Wagons and four 1sts by Midland. They included the six 12 wheeled 33
seat 3rd class Buffet cars being built for use on the GER – 48 to 53, plus six 8
wheeled cars. The latter comprised two 39 seat 3rd class Buffet cars – Nos 54 &
55, plus four 1st class cars. Three of the 1sts were 22 seat Buffets - Irene, Fortuna
& Iolanthe, plus one 26 seat Parlour - Rosemary. Contemporary photo’s show
that the 1st class section was in the centre of each set, with 54 & 55 as the end
cars of the ‘down’ sets. Loco, GNR bogie van, 3rd K, 3rd K, 1st K, 1st K (or P), 3rd K,
3rd K, bogie van.
Four Pullmans were also transferred from the GE Section in 1923, probably for
use on proving trials and spares, possibly Ansonia & Arcadia, 46 & 57.
In May 1924 Pullman services ended on the GE section, except on continental
boat trains, for which three 1sts were retained. Six of the 12 wheeled GER cars
were then rebuilt as Brake Parlours – Ansonia, Arcadia, 40, 41, 46 & 57.
The original Harrogate Pullman formation lasted for just less than a year, for in
June 1924 each set was increased to 8 cars, by the addition of Pullman Brake
Parlours at either end, replacing the bogie vans. The cars at the front of each
‘down’ train were No. 46 & 57 with 3 seating bays and 17 seats, and at the rear
next to 54 & 55 were Ansonia & Arcadia, with 4 seating bays and 16 seats. The
two rear cars then formed a new Bradford service, detached/re-attached at
Leeds. Apart from the two Brake Parlours replacing the bogie vans the
formations remained the same as before.
Also in June 1924, five of the 12 wheeled ex GER cars were formed into a new
service to Sheffield - 40, 45, ex GER 1st, 56, 41. The end Brake Parlours Nos 40
& 41 had 5 bays and 30 seats. Initially a new car GERALDINE, an early K type
car, was used for publicity, but soon replaced with an ex GER 1st.
In July 1925 the Harrogate service was extended to Edinburgh, making it, ”the
longest all-Pullman service in Europe”. For this ‘new’ prestigious service three
new 3rd class cars were provided, Nos 58 (36 seat Buffet), 65 & 66 (42 seat
Parlours). These had the new seating arrangement that omitted the half seating
bays of the earlier cars, so visually stood out in the sets by having more evenly
spaced bay windows. Photo’s show that the new cars were used as a 3rd class
Buffet/Parlour pair for one of the two sets, presumably with the other 3rd Parlour
used as a spare. These two cars displaced two of the 1923 GE 3rds and Nos 50 &
51 were later transferred to the SR. The formation still had eight cars but the 1st
class section was moved to the centre of the main 6-car section – 3rd BP(3), 3rd K,
1st K,1st P, 65, 58; 54, 1st BP(4).
P8.
At the end of the 1925 summer season the Sheffield Pullman was still
unprofitable and discontinued. The previous Harrogate & Edinburgh service was
then recast as two separate trains, each covering one of the two main spheres of
its former operation. One to the West Ridings, the other to Harrogate and
Edinburgh, both with two sets of 6 cars from the previous Harrogate and
Sheffield trains, plus the ex GER 1920/1 Pullmans (as spares). One West Riding
train set ran to Leeds and Bradford from Kings Cross, the other set to Leeds and
Kings Cross from Harrogate. The 2-car Bradford section was initially
detached/re-attached at Leeds but when the service was extended to Halifax in
September 1926 the separation occurred at Wakefield. The four remaining cars
were then worked empty to Harrogate for the next days up service. The formation
now had a 3rd and a 1st less than before. The two Brake Parlours were retained
but 54 & 55, previously in the Bradford sections were replaced by ex 1921 GER
3rds in the 42-47 series. The two other 3rds were usually the 1925 cars – 58, 65 &
66 or similar new cars in the 31-36 series. 3rd BP(3), 3rd K (58), 1st K (GE or K
type), 3rd P (65); GE 3rd K, 1st BP(4). The cars then carried short destination
boards.
The Edinburgh train now ran non-stop between Kings Cross and Harrogate,
instead of via Leeds (until May 1928), then on to Edinburgh as before. 3rd Brake
Parlours 40 & 41 from the previous Sheffield Pullman were at the front of the
northbound sets, and 1st Brake Parlours were at the rear – either Ansonia,
Arcadia, Cambria or Catania. Next to one of these were 54 or 55 from the former
Harrogate service and also four 3rds in the 48-53 series. 3rd BP(5), GE 3rd K (1921
or 23), GE (or ‘K’ type) 1st K, GE 1923 3rd K, early K type 3rd K, 1st BP(4). The
cars in these sets carried long destination boards. In 1927 the two trains officially
received names, becoming the “West Riding Pullman”, and the “Queen of Scots”.
In May 1928 the “Queen of Scots”, was extended to Glasgow and in July
completely re-equipped with 2 sets of 8 ‘steel’ cars. 3rd BP(5), 3rd K, 3rd P, 1st K,
1st P, 3rd P, 3rd K, 3rd BP(5).
The initial allocation was:Set 1 - 77, 71, 73, Thelma, Sheila, 76, 70, 78
Set 2 - 79, 67, 75, Phyllis, Agatha, 74, 69, 80
Plus four spare cars, 1st Buffets - Belinda & Nilar, plus 3rd K’s 68 & 72.
In 1932 the sets were reduced by one 3rd Parlour to seven cars, the service
accelerated by 20 minutes overall, and the loco fitted with a headboard.
In May 1928 the “West Riding Pullman” was reformed as a single seven car train
of mostly ex 1920/1 GE Pullmans, working a daily return service from
Harrogate, and in July 1928 it was extended to Newcastle. Initially the formation
only had wooden cars:- 3rd BP(3), GE 1st K, *1st K, GE 3rd, GE 3rd; GE 3rd, 1st
BP(4). The *1st K car could be an early K type, or an ex GE car.
Later the set was increased to 8 cars by adding a 3rd K after the 3rd BP(3).
Gradually steel cars were introduced, eventually replacing all the 3rds, apart from
the ex 1921 GE car in the Halifax section. A listing, without ‘running names’, of
the final formation is given in the ‘LNER GN section Carriage Roster’ for July
1935 (PRO Kew).
P9.
Interpolating from the tabulated list which has headings for ‘class & function’,
‘wheels’, ‘weight’ and ‘seating’, the results are:- 3rd BP(3), steel 3rd K, 1st K (K
type), 1st K (K type), steel 3rd K, steel 3rd P; GE 3rd K, 1st BP(4) – the last two cars
were for Halifax.
The Brake Parlours - Ansonia & Arcadia were displaced in 1928 by the ‘steel’
cars and from 1929 used on the ‘Eastern Belle’, summer only half day excursion
train. They remained officially allocated to the train until its demise in 1939.
They were remodelled as 3rds in 1934, so could also work as spares on the winter
‘Queen of Scots’, as there no spare ‘steel’ Brake Parlours. 40 & 41 went to the
GWR in 1929 for the ‘Torquay Pullman’, until 1931 when they were transferred to
the SR ‘Bournemouth Belle’, where they ended their days. Cambria & Catania,
plus 46 & 57 remained on the LNER until withdrawn in 1939, working on the
‘West Riding Pullman’, and ‘Yorkshire Pullman’.
Many thanks Geoff, has any reader anything to add.
Model Railway
Hornby Christmas sets as detailed within “Empire Stores” Christmas 2005
supplement.
The Boxed Set Special Edition Set. 8F Pullman Set.
Containing 1940’s 8F LMS (5 pole skew wound) loco drive, 2-8-0 locomotive
No.8400 DCC ready. Three Pullman cars consisting 2 x parlour first’s and
1 x Brake Parlour of 1928 construction (no interior lights).
HM2000 power controller, double oval of track and Hornby virtual railway CD
rom. £239.99
The Western Pullman.
Based on the South West Pullman service that ran from Paddington to Swansea
from 1955 to 1961. Containing Castle Class “Cadbury Castle” with four Pullman
cars 2 x Parlour First’s and 2 x Brake Parlours of 1928 construction (No interior
lights). Oval of track and track pack S A and B providing a layout with two
sidings. £149.99
Note: The photographs provided identify the cars with post 1960 coat of arms
applied, which puts the “Western Pullman” in the period of the standby train or
“Wells Fargo” as it was nick named.
For further details visit
www.empirestores.co.uk
P10.
Pullman Book List:
I have updated my list to take account of the new “Blue Pullman” book.
This is not a definitive list, and if you have knowledge of any book not listed,
I would appreciate an e-mail giving details so I can to the list.
Books published covering Pullman Operations/History: Title:
The American Pullman Cars of
the Midland Railway.
Pullman in Europe.
The Golden Arrow.
Pullman.
Pullman –Travelling in Style.
Pullmans of the Venice Simplon
ORIENT-EXPRESS.
Author:
J.B.Radford.
Publisher:
Ian Allan.
George Behrend.
A.Hasenson.
Julian Morel.
Brian Haresnape.
Shirley Sherwood.
Ian Allan (1962).
Howard Baker.
David & Charles.
Ian Allan.
The Illustrated
London News
Group.
Patrick Stephens
Limited.
British Railway Carriages of the
20th Century – Volume 2: the
years of consolidation, 1923-53.
Pullman Cars on the Southern
1875-1972.
Pullman Trains in Britain.
David Jenkinson.
British Pullman Trains.
Charles Fryer.
Pullman Craftsmen.
Don Carter,
Joe Kent &
Geoff Hart.
Bert Hollick.
Pullman Attendant.
British Railways Camping Coach
Holidays (part one).
British Railways Camping Coach
Holidays (part two).
Tramcar. Carriage and Wagon
Builders of Birmingham.
Metro-Cammell 150 years of
craftsmanship.
Birmingham Railway Carriage &
Wagon Company- a century of
achievement 1855-1963.
Clayton Wagons Ltd –
Manufacturer of Railway
Carriages & Wagons 1920 to
1930.
London to Paris a journey in
pictures.
Pullman & Perfection.
ORION and the Golden Arrow –
the story of a Pullman Car.
R.W.Kidner.
R.W.Kidner.
The Oakwood
Press.
The Oakwood
Press.
Silver Link
Publications.
QueenSpark Book.
ISBN:
0-711-1387-X
09-304810-6
0-7153-8382-5
0-7110-1648-8
0-950-63261-9
0-85059-912-1
0-85361-356-7
0-85361-531-4
0-947971-78-5
0-904733-305
Andrew Mcrae.
QueenSpark
Market Books
1991.
Foxline Publishing.
1-8701-1948-7
Andrew Mcrae.
Foxline Publishing.
1-870119-53-3
J.H.Price.
Nemo Productions.
0-903479-18-4
Keith Beddoes,
Colin & Stephen
Wheeler.
John Hypher, Colin
& Stephen Wheeler.
Runpast
Publishing.
1-870754-46-8
Runpast
Publishing.
1-870754-34-4
J.G.Ruddock &
R.E.Pearson.
J.W.Ruddock &
Sons Limited
Lincoln.
0-904327-06-X
George C. Drury.
Ian Allan (1946).
F.Burtt &
W.Beckerlegge.
Geoffrey
Kichenside.
Ian Allan (1948).
Sidmouth Printing
Works (1978).
0-900586-50-8
P11.
Title:
Blue Pullman
Author:
Kevin Robertson
Publisher:
Kestrel Railway
Books
ISBN:
0-954485963
Books published in the UK covering CIWL & Pullman Operations/History: Title:
The History of Wagon Lits
1875 - 1955.
Night Ferry.
Venice Simplon ORIENTEXPRESS
The worlds most celebrated train.
Orient Express –
The life and times of the world’s
most famous train.
The Orient Express –
The history of the orient express
service from 1883 to 1950.
The Orient Express – a century
of railway adventures.
Luxury Trains – from the orient
express to the TGV.
Luxury Trains of the World.
Dream Voyages.
Author:
George Behrend.
Publisher:
Modern Transport
Publishing (1959).
Jersey Artist.
0-901845-13-2
L.E.G.O. ITALY.
0-297-83035-X
E.H.Cookridge.
Allen Lane.
0-7139-1271-5
Anthony Burton.
David & Charles.
0-7153-1185-9
Jean Des Cars &
Jean-Paul
Caracalla.
George Behrend.
Bloomsbury
Books.
1-870630-42-4
The Vendome
Press.
Bison Books
Limited.
Jersey Artists Ltd.
0-86565-016-0
George Behrend &
Gary Buchanan.
Shirley Sherwood.
George Freeman
Allen.
Gary Buchanan.
ISBN:
0-86124-020-0
0-901845-13-2
Books published in the United States of America covering Pullman
Operations/History.
Title:
Pullman - an experiment in
industrial order and community
planning 1880-1930.
Images of America Chicago’s
Historic Pullman District.
Those Pullman Blues.
The History of the Pullman Car.
Author:
Stanley Buder.
David D. Perata.
Joseph Husband.
Palace Car Prince – a biography
of George Mortimer Pullman.
Rising From The Rails.
Liston Edington
Leyendecker.
Larry Tye.
Frank Beberdick.
Publisher:
Oxford University
Press
USA.
Arcadia USA.
ISBN:
0-19-500838-3
Twayne USA.
Black Letter Press
USA.
University Press of
Colorado.
Henry Holt &
Company, LLC.
0-8057-4520-3
0-912382-16-3
0-7385-0029-1
0-87081-337-4
0-8050-7075-3
P12.
BLUE PULLMAN STANDBY TRAIN :
A subject of interest with the pending release of the all new Bachmann Mk1
Pullman cars, this will give those of us with model railways the chance to operate
a Standby Pullman set.
Given the unofficially name of "Wells Fargo" the train’s haulage power was varied
with a mixed allocation of steam and diesel.
Known Standby Workings.
1961.
September 25th the first recorded use of the stand by set and consisting of 5 x
Pullman cars and 2 x Mk1 First Opens covering the “Birmingham Pullman”
service. Hauled by King Class 6020 “King Henry”.
1962.
July 12th covering the “Birmingham Pullman” hauled by 1006 “Western Stalwart”.
September 10th – 14th Covering the “South Wales Pullman”.
September. “Midland Pullman” standby set used.
1963.
April 11th Covering the “Birmingham Pullman” hauled by 1006 “Western Stalwart”.
April 16th Covering the “Bristol Pullman” hauled by D834 “Pathfinder”.
April 17th Covering the “South Wales Pullman” hauled by D7066.
August 14th Covering the “Birmingham Pullman” hauled by 1040 “Western
Queen” the “Up” working is involved in a collision at Knowle and Dorrige.
Three crew in the locomotive cab killed.
1964.
May 8th The “Bristol Pullman” (Blue Pullman set) withdrawn for a complete
overhaul to be undertaken at Swindon Works. Approximately six weeks allocated
for the work. This will be followed by the set allocated to the “Birmingham
Pullman” and in 1965 the “South Wales Pullman” set.
During these periods the standby sets will be operation.
P13.
June 22nd The “Bristol Pullman“ “Up” working arrives at Paddington hauled by
Hall Class No.7916 “Mobberley Hall”.
August 31st Noted passing Solihull D1683 with the standby train “Birmingham
Pullman”.
1965.
May 7th The “South Wales Pullman” (Blue Pullman set) withdrawn for complete
overhaul estimated at 6 weeks. The standby set to cover.
1966.
March 14th & 15th standby set in use hauled by a diesel hydraulic Western Class.
April 15th The final run of the two “Midland Pullman” (Blue Pullman sets) on the
Manchester Central to St.Pancras service. Both sets noted at Swindon in July.
1967.
March 3rd the final run of the “Birmingham Pullman” (Blue Pullman set) service.
March with the introduction of the two ex “Midland Pullman” (Blue Pullman sets)
and the ex “Birmingham Pullman” allocated sets being available, the Western
Region end the use of the Standby loco hauled sets.
Formation Details:
Details: From website www.railcar.co.uk the identity of the WR standby train which
was Stabled at Old Oak Common: Mark 1. First Open. Lot No.30472. BRC&W Co. 1959.
W3093 & W3094.
Pullman Cars allocated.
Car No.27, 249, 169, 54 and CECELIA.
"Pullman Travelling in Style" by the late Brian Haresnape. (page 142)
A photo dated August 26th 1964.
The formation consists Brush Type 4 (Later Class 47) No.1690 passing high
Wycombe with Cars No. 54, 106, 340, 352, 344, 105 & 55.
(Cars No. 340, 352 & 344, being ex-ER Mk1 Pullman Cars).
P14.
Traction Magazine November 1997.
Refers to the identity of the MR Standby Train: Pullman Cars allocated & stabled at Etches Park Carriage Sidings, Derby.
ATHENE (Brake). THETIS (107) (Kitchen). CETEIA (73) (Parlour).
THALIA (106) (Kitchen). FORTUNA (Brake).
Additional Cars in reserve.
JUANA (Parlour). MELANDRA (74) (Parlour). HEBE (105) (Kitchen).
Within "Pullman" by the late Julian Morel.
Reference is made on pages 109 - 111 to the standby trains.
S/No.
New Running Name.
Former No. Type.
188.
226.
210.
227.
215.
211.
216.
212.
193.
AVON.
CETEIA.
HEBE.
MELANDRA.
SEVERN.
THALIA.
THAMES.
THETIS.
WYE.
66.
73.
105.
74.
60.
106.
61.
107.
35.
P.
P.
K.
P.
K.
K.
K.
K.
P.
Car No. 105 (MARCELLE), 106 (SYBIL) & 107 (KATHLEEN).
Preservation News -
The Blue Pullman – Model.
Within last month’s “Tail Lamp” I asked for feed back on the potential £200 plus
cost for of an “00” gauge set and would you be prepared to pay that price.
Well I was a little surprised with the complete lack of response from any model
railway reader of the newsletter. So I close the matter.
P15.
Sheffield Railwayana Auctions Limited.
Saturday September 17th 2005.
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Saturday 17th September 2005
Auctions are held at, Myers Grove School, Wood Lane, Stannington, Sheffield 6.
starting at 11 am. Viewing is from 7.30 am till 11 am on the day of the sale.
Licensed bar; extensive catering; sales stalls; Ample free parking; on the main
tram route from Sheffield station; wheel chair access.
LOTS 43-45: PULLMAN CAR ITEMS
43 *
PULLMAN 1st CLASS ARMCHAIR from SR composite car 'Iris' of 1932.
In light green moquette in excellent condition together with original
'Pullman' antimacassar. Pullman Composite Car 'Iris' was built by
Metropolitan Cammell & Wagon Co at Birmingham in 1932 for the
Brighton Electrification. Formed in SR electric unit No. 2016 (later 3016).
A contemporary description states that the car was distinguished by the
use of 'very beautiful veneers of rosy tones with enrichments of an
English garden. Richly coloured blossoms on holly were predominant.’
Chair dimensions: 28" x 30" x 45". 'Iris' was withdrawn from service on 18
June 1966 and sold for scrap to A King & Sons Ltd, Norwich.
44 *
PULLMAN CAR SQUARE BASE TABLE LAMP in the ornate Arcadian
style of swags and rams heads, complete with matching pink shade.
No car identity noted, but a typical style that was predominant in many
Pullmans from 1923. No base. Good ex-vehicle condition.
P16.
45 *
PULLMAN CAR BRASS CASED CLOCK. A rare brass clock from Third
class kitchen car No.8 of 1917. 8½” diameter with satin grey face and
unusual Roman numerals and second hand. Glass opens to
facilitate winding (no key). An inscription reading “Third Class 8” can be
found around the inside rim of the clock face. Good ex-car condition and
highly sought after, since most clocks had Arabic numerals. 12-wheeled
Pullman kitchen car No 8 was built at Longhedge in November 1917 and
used principally on South Coast services, including the 'Southern Belle',
boat trains and latterly the "Bournemouth Belle" in the 1950s and early
1960s. The clock was removed in 1955 and replaced by a plaque.
Car No 8 was withdrawn from service in May 1961 and became "Holiday
Coach No. P56". It was finally broken up in 1968.
Devon Belle Observation Car – CAR No.14.
My thanks to Richard Barber for forwarding the Photograph of Car No.14 taken
in early August at its location of 140 Chestnut Street, San Francisco.
Richard advises the attached building remains available for lease.
Potential editorial office for the editor?
cR.Barber 08/2005.
P17.
Petworth – Petworth - This is Petworth - All Change.
Petworth Station as Restored in Sussex.
The Old Railway Station at Petworth is to say goodbye to its Station Mistress of
some year’s service, Lou Rapley on October 3rd.
After many years loyal service in which Lou and her family have restored the
station, and three Pullman cars to create the only Pullman Car Sleeper service in
the UK. For those of us that can remember Camping Coaches stabled in station
sidings all over the UK up until the late 1960’s, Lou gave us the chance to
sample those days, but with a little more style and elegance.
We in the Pullman interest field owe Lou a debt of thanks, for the foresight to
initially purchase two cars direct from Marazion in 1998 and then have them
moved to Petworth by road in September of that year.
S/No.50. MIMOSA and S/No.47 ALICANTE, were then joined in 2002 by
S/No.154. FLORA from Surrey.
As you will be aware the remaining cars at Marazion were eventually burnt out
on site and lost for ever.
Alas for "Lou Rapley" it is not the end of the Pullman link, as Lou will now
form part of the History of Pullman in the UK for future generations to read
and research about.
As to the new Station Master at Petworth, Mr Olafsson and his wife take up
residence on October 3rd.
I am sure all fellow readers will join me in a vote of thanks to Lou and her family
for the restoring Petworth and the Pullmans and wish them well for the future.
P18.
Tail Lamp:
Coupé News is only as good as the information received, and published within.
So why not share your news / material / information with fellow Pullman
connoisseurs.
As reported in “Look Back at Pullman” it is 45 years ago this month since the
introduction of the new look Pullman travel on British Railways.
The Western Region introduced the public to the eight car Blue Pullman sets on
the “Bristol and Birmingham Pullman” services.
Whilst on Eastern Region with the impending “Deltic” era, the Mk1 Pullman cars
entered service on the “Master Cutler” service. Full introduction being Spring
1961.
In respect of survival into preservation six members of the Deltic locomotive fleet
and a varied selection of types of the Mk1 Pullman cars exist. But alas no “Blue
Pullman” cars survived.
If anything does survive from the “Blue Pullman” cars it will only be internal
fittings. But proof as to which car the fittings came from will be hard to prove.
I have read recently on a web site that a set of seats from a car exist, and
reported as being on the Bluebell Railway.
As to the condition, and to what use the seats have been put remains to be
answered.
Remember - “Information is for Sharing – Not gathering Dust”.
T.Bye September 1st 2005.