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Kabinews
July/August 2012
The
MESSERSCHMITT
owners’ club
THE MESSERSCHMITT
OWNERS’ CLUB Ltd.
Club President: Phil Boothroyd. Hon. Vice President: Ken Piper
A company limited by guarantee, incorporated in England and Wales no.05416245
Registered Office: 169 Coulsdon Road, Coulsdon, Surrey. CR5 1EG
Directors:
David Garner (Chairman) - The Sidings, Dicks Lane, Westhead, Ormskirk, Lancashire, L40 6JA.
Tel: +44 (0)1695 322979. E-mail: karofahrer@yahoo.co.uk
Lawrence House - Buckbury House, Buckbury, Nr Longdon, Tewkesbury, Worcestershire,
GL20 6AR. Tel: +44 (0)7768 047479. E-mail: lawrencehouse@hotmail.co.uk
Andy Woolley (Company Secretary) - 169 Coulsdon Road, Coulsdon, Surrey, CR5 1EG.
Tel: +44 (0)7956 282241. E-mail: mocmembershipsecretary@yahoo.co.uk
Officials:
DVLA V765 Scheme Coordinator: Lawrence House (for contact details see above)
Finance Officer: Lawrence House (for contact details see above)
Insurance Coordinator: Lawrence House (for contact details see above)
Kabinews Editor: Glynn Jones - 14 Ayscough Avenue, Nutall, Nottingham NG16 1BY.
Tel: +44(0)115 854 1678 E-mail: kabinews@ntlworld.com
Kabinews Distributor: Kate Jones (contact details as for Glynn Jones above)
Membership Secretary: Andy Woolley (for contact details see above)
Parts Committee Coordinator: Lawrence House (for contact details see above)
Partsmart Manager (new and second hand parts): Wynford Jones - 'Lonsdale', Dark Lane,
Stoke St Gregory, Taunton, Somerset, TA3 6EU. Tel: +44 (0)7541 197243.
(mobile) +44 (0)1823 490922 (office/fax). E-mail: mocpartsmart@gmail.com
Regional Secretaries:
The Regional Secretaries are the local points of contact for members within each UK Region. Use
your Regional Secretary to bring your views to the National Executive Committee.
Caledonian Region: John Miller - 72 Newark Street, Greenock, Renfrewshire, PA16 7TF.
Tel: 01475 724229. This Region comprises all of Scotland, Northern Ireland, Isle of Man, Cumbria,
Northumberland, County Durham, Cleveland, Tyne & Wear.
Northern Region: David Tattersall - 3 Beresford Drive, Southport, Merseyside , PR9 7JY.
Tel: 01704 225877. E-mail: dtattersall@btinternet.com This Region comprises Lancashire, Greater
Manchester, all of Yorkshire, Nottinghamshire, Lincolnshire, Leicestershire, Northamptonshire,
Powys, Clwydd, Gwynedd, Cheshire, Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Warwickshire,
Herefordshire and Worcestershire.
Wales & West of England Region: Roger Clements - 'Appletree Thatch', Appletree Road, Redlynch,
Salisbury, Wiltshire, SP5 1JQ. Tel: 01725 511716 E-mail: apple@applethatch.fsworld.co.uk
This Region comprises Hampshire, Wiltshire, Gloucestershire, Somerset, Avon, Dorset, Devon,
Cornwall, Dyfed, Glamorgan, Gwent and Isle of Wight.
Southern Region: Alison Armfield - 26 Bridgecote Lane, Noak Bridge, Basildon, Essex, SS15 4BW.
E-mail: schmittkr200@yahoo.co.uk This Region comprises Greater London, Essex, Kent, Surrey,
West Sussex, East Sussex, Norfolk, Suffolk, Hertfordshire, Bedfordshire, Oxfordshire, Berkshire,
Buckinghamshire, Cambridgeshire and the Channel Islands.
www.messerschmitt.co.uk
Club Nights
Western
2nd Wednesday of the month.
Compass Inn, Tormarton, nr Bath.
Junction 18 M4.
Contact Wynford Jones 01823 490922
Southern
3rd Thursday of the month.
The Queens Theatre, Billet Lane,
Hornchurch, Essex. RM11 1QT.
Contact Mick Morton on 01708 475652
South Eastern
3rd Wednesday of the month.
Venue under review Contact Mark Snowden 01634 309292
Wales & West of England
3rd Tuesday of the month.
The Old Thatch, 285 Wimborne Road
Ferndown (Wimborne) Dorset BH21 7NW.
Contact Colin Archer on 01202 882734
& Peter Houghton 01202 897594
Nottingham Area
Last Wednesday of the month.
The Horse and Groom public house,
Linby, Notts.
Contact Colin Burton on 01623 481050
Caledonian
Contact John Miller on 01475 724229
Kabinews the magazine of the Messerschmitt Owners’ Club Ltd is published bi-monthly, January, March,
May, July, September & November. The views and opinions expressed in Kabinews are those of the
authors and not necessarily those of either the Editor or the MOC. Members are also reminded that
Karotips and similar articles of a technical nature are published in good faith but the MOC cannot be held
responsible for their technical merit, nor does publication imply endorsement of any product or service.
The MOC advises that it cannot act as an arbitrator in the purchase of any goods/services advertised
herein. © Messerschmitt Owners’ Club Ltd 2012.
Editor’s Desk
Copy date for Kabinews: 8th of the month preceding publication
14 Ayscough Avenue, Nuthall, NOTTINGHAM. NG16 1BY. Tel: +44(0)115 854 1678
e-mail: kabinews@ntlworld.com
Arrangements however will be made for
It has been announced by Roads Minister
owners to put their vehicles through a
Mike Penning that from November 18th this
voluntary MoT should they so wish. How will
year, owners of classic and historic vehicles,
insurance companies react? Might they call
manufactured before 1960, will not have to
for an engineer’s report on these none MoT
take them in for a MoT. He said "Owners of
vehicles before they will insure?
classic cars and motorbikes tend to be
The FBHVC results of their tests on fuel
enthusiasts who maintain their vehicles well
additives to counter the corrosive properties
- they don't need to be told to look after them,
of biofuels have just been published - too late
they're out there in all weathers checking the
condition of the engine, tyres and bodywork”
for this edition - but they will be summarised
in the next edition of Kabinews.
He added: "Owners of classic vehicles will
Our Rally is now only days away and I look
still be legally required to ensure that they
forward to meeting you there. Should you
are safe and in a proper condition to be on
have any comments on Kabinews look me out
the road, but scrapping the MoT test for these
and I’ll be pleased to hear your views.
vehicles will save motorists money."
front cover: 138 Messerschmitts parked at the Speyer Museum (photo by Andy Woolley)
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What’s on Diary 2012
July
6th-8th
12th-15th
22nd
Aug
4th
12th
Sept
6th-9th
23rd
Oct
21st
Nov
16th-18th
Bath Microcar Rally, Keynsham Rugby Football Club, Crown Fields,
Bristol Rd, Keynsham. BS31 2BE. Many thanks for all those who
attended in 2011 and for all the donations, this made us a small profit
and if we can repeat this in 2012 we will continue to run the Rally in the
future. Details Wynford Jones 01823 490666
M.O.C. International Rally, Lickhill Manor Caravan Park,
Stourport-on-Severn, Worcestershire. DY13 8RL. See this edition
for more details
Amberley Classic Microcar & Scooter Rally, Amberley Museum,
Amberley, West Sussex BN18 9LT. This regular event at Amberley
Working Museum on the South Downs allows you to spend the day
amongst Messerschmitts, Heinkels, Bond Bugs, Lambrettas, Fiats and,
not forgetting, the museum's steam railway, traction engines, vintage
buses and fire engines. This is truly an event for lovers of all things
technical. Details: www.amberleymuseum.co.uk/
L&SE Burnt Meat Eat St Michaels, Woodcock Hill, Felbridge,
Surrey RH19 2RD 15 mins south of M25 J6 on A22.
Contact Malcolm Thomas 01342 319 074 or email
malcolm.thomas@btconnect.com See this edition for more details
German Classic Car Show, Haigh Hall, Wigan WN2 1PE. 11.00 to
5.00pm free admission. Details 01942 522210
National Microcar Rally hosted by the East Anglian Microcar Club at
Rose Farm Touring Park, Stepshort, Belton, Great Yarmouth NR31 9JS
tel. 01493 780896. See website for latest news and to arrange extended
stay on site - www.national-microcar-rally.co.uk
Helga Bonner Memorial Walk around Horndon on the Hill, Essex area.
See this edition for more details. Contact Mick Morton 01708 475652
NEC Meeting, Heritage Motor Centre, Gaydon, Warwickshire
CV35 0BJ commencing 11.00am
NMCR and their display of microcars at the Classic Motor Show,
National Exhibition Centre, Birmingham. More details to follow
see www.national-microcar-rally.co.uk
'MEC day' at the GWR, Toddington Station Sunday 16th September
'Classic Vehicle Day' to be held by the Railway. Entry is free of charge for Classic
Vehicles and as an appreciation for exhibiting your entry, each vehicle will receive a
Complimentary Ticket for one round train trip for one person. An entry form is available
from the website which ideally, should be sent in 14 days in advance although late
bookings are usually accepted. For more information, go to:
www.gwsr.com/planning-your-visit/2012-events-calendar/classic-vehicle-days.aspx
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Three-Wheelers Large and Small
Three-wheelers with heritage backgrounds
spanning generations were on display at the
seaside resort of Southport, Merseyside, UK,
at the local launch of the powerful new
Morgan Super Sports model, the sleek 21st
century version of the car company’s founder
Henry Morgan’s basic motor tricycles back
in 1910.
by David Tattersall
The half-tonne Super Sports, styled on an
original 1930s Morgan trike, has superformed aluminium coachwork. It is powered
by a 1.9-litre S & S 45-degree V-twin
motorcycle engine coupled to a Mazda fivespeed transmission driving the rear wheel via
a specially fabricated rear end. Top speed is
115 m.p.h., with 0-60mph in 4.5 sec.
“It was a fun day out with visitors and
spectators lining up for a ride in both the highspeed open top Morgan and, in complete
contrast, our Messerschmitts” said David.
David with his KR200 and the new Morgan
three wheeler and replica childs pedal car
and opposite with Alan’s Tg500.
Morgan, still based at its original town of
Great Malvern, Herefordshire, is Britain’s last
wholly British-owned car company. With its
latest model it says the aim is to recapture
the authentic Thirties three-wheeled thrills
but with “get-in-and-drive” simplicity and
reliability.
More Morgan information and photos at
www.morgan-motor.co.uk
The promotional event was staged by Lifes
Motors, the oldest official Morgan car dealer
in the world, founded by Billy Life as a
Southport motorcycle business in the 1920s.
As a contrast, they asked local Messerschmitt
owners David Tattersall and Alan Town to
show their microcar KR200 and Tg500
alongside the monster new Morgan threewheeler.
L & SE MOC
Burnt Meat Eat
Sat 4th August from 6pm
St. Michaels,Woodcock Hill, Felbridge, Surrey RH19 2RD
Bring your own Meat & Drink plus ’schmitt or other interesting vehicle....
Everything else provided, sleep over camping and small camper van spaces available by
arrangement. Radio controlled KR200 and may be electric flying ME109 if weather calm
to test your skills. Put it in your diary. More details contact Malcolm 01342 319 074 or
e-mail: malcolm.thomas@btconnect.com
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/schmitt_talk/
submitted by David Garner
A Question of Electrics
It seems the subject of regulators is never
far away from discussion with microcar
owners. I know that some Messerschmitts had
Bosch black boxes and regulators and others
had Siba ones. (Mine is a Siba).
SIBA and later with BOSCH units.
The Sachs175 had at first Bosch magneto
ignition and when it came to electrical starter,
they took the SIBA dynastart instead of a
Bosch equivalent. The SIBA factory had been
founded after WWII to produce electrical
replacement parts mainly for DKW. (by the
way “Dynastart” was then a protected name
for DKW, so SIBA could not really use it and
took AZL = Anlaßzündlichtanlage. SIBA
consists of the two founders first letters:
Single, who had a press shop - Presswerk
Schwaben at Plochingen am Neckar
making bodies for telephones etc. and
Bauer, a former electrical engineer
from DKW.
Why did Sachs change to this? Who
knows, perhaps cheaper than BOSCH?
Unfortunately in 1957 BOSCH took over the
SIBA plant in Plochingen, the parts got
temporarily BOSCH numbers, some products
were mainly unaltered available as Boschparts (eg the ignition switch or the magneto
switch for reversing), others were developed
further like the dyna-parts.
Sachs had no choice but to use these now
called BOSCH parts, because SIBA no longer
existed in Germany. As you stated correctly,
SIBA Plochingen held shares of SIBA
Camberly. These were traded during the
takeover to LUCAS. BOSCH could not take
over these for BOSCH and LUCAS had an
agreement not to compete on the mainland
with each other. SIBA Electrical Ltd.
produced its products as before, so SIBA parts
were available in the UK for much longer than
in Germany, a valuable source of parts for
Messerschmitts equipped with SIBA electrics.
A Siba regulator.
I also realise that my Scootacar also has
a Siba black box identical to my
Messerschmitt. I can therefore assume the
black box was a generic item fitted to other
microcars as well. A quick glance at
Wikipedia tells me Siba was a German
company and also a UK based one, with the
German company eventually bought by Bosch
and the British one by Lucas. Why did
Messerschmitt use Siba as well as Bosch
units? It would seem to make sense for the
company to just use Bosch and the British
manufacturers - Scootacar, Frisky, Berkeley
etc to use the Siba ones - Adam Quellin
Reply
Well, it wasn’t Messerschmitt who decided
to take SIBA as well as BOSCH. They took a
Sachs 200 as engine, and that came first with
Norbert Diehle
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Highlights from the AGM and April’s
National Executive Committee Meeting
These meetings took place at Gaydon,
Warwickshire on Sunday, 15th April 2012 and
were attended by 12 members, including the
Club’s Directors. When the full minutes are
approved at the next respective meetings
these will be published in the Downloads
section of the Club’s website where all
previously approved minutes are stored for
members to access.
by Company Secretary
It was also noted that the Club Rules
require the subscription rate for Family
Membership to be 25% more than the
corresponding single rate. It was agreed that
a £2 differential should be maintained in
future and a proposal to formally change the
Rules in this respect will be put forward at
the 2013 AGM.
It was reported that 92% of the 477 people
who were members at the end of 2011 had
renewed their membership by the end of
February. Membership levels are continuing
to increase, especially from overseas.
The Partsmart service is now working very
well, with lots of positive feedback from
members. New lines are being added regularly
and in the coming months it is planned to
offer new steel torpedo lamp bodies as well
as the retaining collar for the cardan shaft
sleeve.
Arrangements for this year’s Rally are well
in hand and it promises to be another great
event.
Lawrence House took over the role of
DVLA liaison last year and he has now
successfully helped three UK members to
register their ’schmitts with their original
registration marks.
The next NEC meeting takes place on 21st
October 2012 at the Heritage Motor Centre,
Gaydon, Warwickshire and members are most
welcome to attend.
AGM
Roger Clements stood down as a Director
and received thanks for all his hard work in
that role.Wynford Jones put himself forward
as a replacement for Roger.However,
following the meeting he decided not to accept
a directorship. There is an urgent need to find
more members that are willing and able to
serve as Directors. Anyone interested in
becoming a Director should contact Andy
Woolley.
Andy Woolley was re-elected as a Director
for a further three year term.
Lawrence House reported that when the
2011 accounts are finalised he anticipates that
they will show a small trading loss.
NEC Meeting
Postage costs have been rising at well above
the rate of inflation and subscriptions have
not been reviewed for many years. In order
that subscription income covers the costs of
the services provided to members, it was
agreed that from January 2013 subscription
rates would increase as follows:
UK Single Membership - £18 (from £16)
UK Family Membership - £20 (from £18)
European Membership - £24 (from £19.50)
Overseas Membership - £31 (from £28.50)
Internet Membership - £14 (from £12)
The joining fee for new members will
remain at £5.
Company Secretary, Andy Woolley can be
contacted by phone 07956 282241 or e-mail;
mocmembershipsecretary@yahoo.co.uk
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Southern Area Luncheon & A.G.M.
by Mick Morton
As you can see from the photos taken at the luncheon – “I will let them do the talking” – the
day was a great success, yet again.
Thank you all for your support and input into our area AGM. Especially the rousing speech
by our Honorary President Ken Piper accompanied by his lovely wife Charlie.
The AGM finished with our thanks to the NEC for their hard work and efforts on our
behalf, a sentiment that does not get voiced as much as it ought to. We thank them again.
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MOC Annual Rally, Stourport-on-Severn,
12th-15th July
Last minute reminders!
The Rally Site is at Lickhill Manor Caravan Park,
off Lower Lickhill Road, Stourport-on-Severn,
Worcestershire, DY13 8RL Tel. 01299 871041.
Fees & Costs
The rally entry fee is £15 per person, which covers the
cost of the reception drinks and Hog Roast on Friday
evening as well as a rally pack and souvenir.
Camping costs £10 per unit per night.
Tickets for the Saturday night dinner at Wharton Park Golf Club can be bought from
Rally Control up to Saturday lunch time. These cost £18.50 each, with a reduced price of
£8.95 for children under 12 years old.
Road Runs
There is an informal road run on Thursday afternoon from the Rally Site at Stourport to
Tenbury Wells and back by the shortest route.
Friday’s road run will start from the Rally Site at Stourport at 10.00 am and will take a
scenic route to a lunch stop at The Lock Inn at Wolverly, Kidderminster (DY10 3RN).
Please join us at the pub if you can’t make the start.
Saturday’s road run will start from the Rally Site at Stourport at 10.00 am and will take a
scenic route to a lunch stop at The Ship Inn at Highley, Worcestershire (WV16 6NU).
Here you can also visit the Severn Valley Railway station and Engine House, which is well
worth a look at. Please join us here if you can’t make the start of the run.
Concours etc.
This year the main concours awards will be judged by you, the members. Voting slips will
be included in the Rally Pack and will need to be completed and returned to Rally Control
by noon on Sunday. You will need to return your voting slip to get your Rally Souvenir.
Wynford Jones will be judging the award for ‘Best Restoration from a Wreck’. To help
him do this, if you have recently restored your car from a ‘basket case’ please present a
photographic record of your restoration with your car when it is displayed on the Rally
field on the Sunday morning.
Sunday morning auction
Wynford will be running the auction on Sunday morning so please remember to bring any
’schmitt parts or memorabilia that you wish to be put into the auction and give these to
him on the Saturday.
And finally - If you won one of the permanent trophies last year, please do remember to
return it for representation at this year’s Rally.
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’schmitt Owners and Aviation
by Andy Woolley
In the May/June Kabinews Simon Down asks how many other Messerschmitt owners have
a licence for road and air and continue a family tradition.
I can claim to be one of them as I regained my glider pilot’s licence last year and both my
father and grandfather were pilots. My grandfather learned to fly at Hendon in 1915 and then
joined the Royal Naval Air Service as a pilot. He was sent to France and was lucky enough to
survive the Great War and then embark on a short career as a test pilot at Blackburn Aircraft,
before then becoming the general manager of a small garage in Leeds. My father was an
aircraft engineer and gained his Private Pilots Licence at Biggin Hill in 1963. He gave up
flying about 10 years later when he realised that he wasn’t flying often enough to remain
competent. He used to take me on business trips with him in an ancient Auster J1N when I was
a teenager, and, of course, he used to let me fly it.
I can think of quite a few other ’schmitters that are also pilots, such as Mike Hallam,
Russell Church, Roger Clements and Charles Pike but I don’t know how many of them may be
following a family tradition.
Bleriot XII monoplane Andy’s Grandfather
about to set off on his first
cross-country solo in a
Bleriot monoplane taken at RNAS Redcar in
1915
S J Woolley Blackburn Kangaroo Andy’s Grandfather as
a civilian test pilot with
a Blackburn Kangaroo
- taken at Brough in
1919
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Andy Woolley about
to be launched on his
first flight in a
single-seater glider a 1961 Schleicher K8
- taken at RAF
Kenley in 2011
Helga Bonner Memorial Walk – 23rd September
This years walk is being organised by Sulan Goodwin and will take place around the
Horndon on the Hill, Essex area.
Meet at the Bell Public
House, High Road, Horndon on
the Hill (Stanford-le-Hope),
Essex, SS17 8LQ at 11am for a
cup of something hot. The walk
will start prompt at 11.30
walking footpaths across the
fields to Corringham for
luncheon at Kong’s Chinese
Restaurant at 2pm (63-65
Lampits Hill, Corringham,
Stanford-le-Hope, Essex, SS17
9AA) – then back by the forest
route to Horndon for a cup of
tea and home. Hope to see you
all there.
Helga receiving a bouquet in 2005 for her services to
Details phone Mick Morton
the MOC.
Tel: 01708 475652.
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Partsmart News
by Andy Woolley and the Partsmart team
Heidenau P30 4.00 x 8 tyres now available
from Partsmart.
With the non-availability of the highly
suitable Michelin C type there has been a real
problem in finding a suitable tyre for the
KR200 and KR175. The trailer tyres available
from the Far East (e.g. Kenda, Kings) tend to
be made using a very soft compound and with
very flexible sidewalls. They also don’t have
much tread depth. Whilst they work OK on
the front wheels they are really too unstable
to use as a rear tyre, even when over-inflated.
They also wear out very quickly. Vredestein
make a tyre that gives good stability but with
a high rate of wear.
reduced understeer took a bit of getting used
to! Braking grip in wet or dry conditions
seems fine, but this is a rather subjective
opinion. There is a trade off with ride quality
though due to the very stiff sidewalls of the
Heidenau and some owners may prefer the
more compliant ride and softer steering
response of the Far Eastern offerings, however
the MOC will not be supplying these. It is
too early to say how long they will last on the
front but from past experience the front tyres
last about twice as long as the rear on a
KR200.
Another thing to keep an eye on is tyre
pressures. Due to the stiff sidewalls the
Heidenau P30 will perform very well at very
low pressures so you can’t feel when a tyre is
low on air. I’ve had two punctures so far on
these tyres and I’ve put them both down to
the fact that I hardly ever check my tyre
pressures, relying instead on feel to tell me
when they are low. This approach does not
work with these tyres and running at low
pressures can cause rubbing of the inner tube
against the wheel rim, which can cause
punctures.
The problem for UK based members is that
Heidenau do not have a distributor that stocks
the P30 tyre in the UK and the cost of shipping
them into the UK individually is quite high.
That is why the Club has decided to import
them in large batches for sale to members
through Partsmart. They are available now
at a price of £30.00 each, excluding carriage,
please contact Partsmart for delivery options
and costs.These can also be supplied to
overseas members but the method and cost of
delivery will need to be arranged directly with
Partsmart, to find the most economical way
of sending them.
Some years ago a few members discovered
the excellent Heidenau P30 tyre, which is a 6
ply tyre made in Germany specifically for
classic cars. It is not a trailer tyre or a scooter
tyre. It has a flat tread and a 120kph speed
rating so is perfectly suited for the ’schmitt.
I have been using the Heidenau P30 on the
rear of my KR200 since 2008 and the first
one lasted for around 8,000 miles. I would
rate the stability as at least on par with a
Michelin C type, possibly even better. 2 years
ago I bought two more P30s to try on the front
wheels. The steering response was completely
transformed and the ’schmitt became alive just
like it was in the good old days. In fact the
improved sensitivity of the steering and
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PARTSMART LIST 2012/07
For this page of parts please refer to the 1st page of the Partsmart list that
appeared in the May/June edition of Kabinews.
Partsmart - New Parts
by Lawrence House
Partsmart is pleased to announce the carden shaft gear is removed from
to members that we are now able to the output shaft without the correct
supply the following new parts:tool. These parts have been produced
in mild steel and then zinc plated and
colour passivated in black, they are
virtually indistinguishable from the
originals.
Late type wing lamp chrome plated
mazak covers 1714b £20.04 ea.These
were fitted to British cars from around
1958 onwards. These are of the correct
type with the countersunk screw
fixing.
Diamond nose badge 1280 £17.93 ea.
A new source of the diamond chrome
plated nose badge has been found, and
the badges are now produced using the
‘lost wax’ process. This has allowed
a much better copy to be made which
is also cast to match the profile of the
nose pressing which ensures a much
better fit. The master mould for the
new badge was taken from an original
pressed brass FMR badge.
Carden shaft rubber sleeve holder
ring X122 £9.04 ea. This is held in
place on the engine by 4 screws, and
is often damaged beyond repair when
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0041
0065
0077
0090
0091
0328
0376
1394a
1427
crankcase centre gasket
rubber grommet for points cable in crankcase
crankcase drive side gasket
cork points gasket
cork clutch cover gasket
float chamber gasket
original moulded plug gasket
exhaust gasket
rubber chaincase gasket
CABLES
1101 throttle cable
1102 clutch cable
1103 rear brake cable
1104 front brake cable
1104a rubber grommet for 1104 (each)
1202* teleflex
1275 speedometer cable
1275a speedometer cable, inner for 1275
1477 choke cable
1480+81neutral selector cable complete
1480 neutral selector cable inner
1481a adjuster for neutral cable
1512 heater cable
BODY
0113*
0113a*
0113b*
0113c*
0116*
0116a*
0231
0232
0235
0236
0237
0239
0240
0242
0243
0243a
0243b
0244
0245
0247
0250
0999
1000
1000a
1001
1001b*
1002
1002a
X114
X115
2.71
1.38
2.71
1.38
1.38
0.82
5.16
3.47
5.41
14.26
19.39
26.05
27.01
1.38
93.91
56.42
22.80
9.35
4.24
3.12
14.88
standard aluminium trim set 1959/64
88.28
Tiger aluminium trim set
94.06
EARLY alum. trim set 1955-57
88.28
175 Aluminium trim set
88.28
aluminium trim 2.5 metres
11.75
two tone trim set (additional for early cars)
50.65
bumper filler strip (enough for 1 car)
9.17
windscreen rubber filler
6.89
door edge rubber moulding
9.98
window frame rubber gasket (pair)
16.06
windscreen rubber
59.05
dome rubber
12.20
rear dome rubber gasket
6.71
canopy hinge rubber moulding
8.90
wing piping (black, metre)
4.19
wing piping (silver, metre)
4.19
piping for right side panel (silver, each) 1.02
canopy moulding, front / rear edge (pair)13.54
rubber window edging (metre)
2.09
firewall seal
8.80
wood trim to inside of canopy (’55-’57) 61.33
REAR wheel, 10mm stud holes
Enquire
front inner wings (pair)
68.68
Tiger inner wings (pair)
68.68
nose floor
98.60
bodyshell
seat runners, set of 4
22.98
seat runner spring
4.10
drivers seat base & back plates
17.57
drivers seat pantegraph
76.64
X150
X151
X107
1003*
1003a
1004
1005*
1006*
1006*
1007*
1008*
1009*
1008/9
1010
1023
1024
1028
1051
1051a
1055
1065
1066
1067
1068
X112
X113
1070
1073
1106
1234
1234a
1235
1274
1274a
1274b
1277
1278
1279
1280
1281
1282
1301*
1301a
1301b
1304*
1305
1305b
1305a
1306
1306a
1307
1307a
1314
1314a
1325
1326*
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KR 200 Sports seat
176.47
KR 200 Sports seat foams
143.75
front box section
151.72
floor pan
137.87
retaining strips (pair for trackrod cover) 7.56
side repair panel, state L or R
28.69
firewall
119.44
side walls KR 200 / 201 (pair)
123.42
side walls TG 500 (pair)
123.42
box section
8.02
left steel wing
210.54
right steel wing
210.54
rear seat supports (pair)
50.26
track rod gaiter (each)
21.65
chassis plate left
20.42
chassis plate right
20.42
boot stay support spring
4.28
steering column
74.60
steering column nut
2.65
track rod pins set of 3
22.39
track rod bush set of 2
24.17
bottom steering column bearing
6.89
steering column chrome tube
12.16
steering column support bracket
17.21
steering column triangle bottom plate
3.98
top hat for steering plate
3.98
track rod centre bush
14.29
track rod 10mm thread (pair)
22.98
spring for accelerator pedal
5.57
remanufactured large rear seat frame 63.46
orig. upholstery clips (set) F & R seats 36.30
remanufactured small rear seat frame 48.42
speedometer bezel chrome
12.77
speedometer glass
7.31
speedometer seal
0.66
aluminium kicker plate
7.56
FMR ‘circles’ badge
10.16
striker plate for door latch hook
2.20
FMR nose badge
10.16
Messerschmitt script badge
55.82
RSM ‘eagle’ nose badge
138.89
offside upper panel, primed
46.46
M5 x 15 screws 15+4 nuts/washers
2.24
10 screws+nuts 4mm
1.79
upper left panel
150.12
door lock mechanism
63.88
door lock lid & base
17.57
Tiger door lock handle
53.46
door lock no exchange+50%
door lock rubber
1.38
chromed inside door handle
10.21
domed ali nut for inside door handle
1.58
hood strap, leather
19.15
stainless steel fixing stud for hood strap 2.65
canopy hinge
12.86
clear dome
910.80
1326a* tinted dome
976.80
1327 perspex window front, early car
8.68
1327a window/moulded handle, front, slight flaw
23.95
1328 perspex window back, early car
8.68
1328a window/moulded handle, back, slight flaw
23.95
1329 window lock screw
7.51
1330 aluminium window knob
4.91
1336 front suspension rubber insert (each) 74.60
1336a Tiger front suspension insert (each)
84.66
1339 brake drum (each)
54.07
1341 ‘O’ ring for brake cam
0.77
1342 brake cam, + 0.2, + 0.4, + 0.6, + 0.8mm 19.51
1343 brake block spring
1.58
1346/72 brake return springs (pair)
15.76
1348 brake shoe + lining compl/wheel
25.68
1349 king pin with nut, (each)
16.12
1349a Tiger king pins
1351 front suspension washer (each)
2.56
1353 adjust. plates, set of 2
8.22
1354 steering lever securing plate
1.18
1355 shock absorber mounting plate (each)
9.60
1356 shock absorber, front (each)
20.54
1356a shock absorber, rear
19.81
1357 king pin bush set (4, new type)
19.25
1367
1378
1386
1389*
1389a
1393
1397
1428
1430
1432
1455
1456
1461
1467
1475
1476
1478
1478a
1478b
1478r
1478t
1479
1479a
1483
1485
1518
1520
1600*
1601
1603a
1610
brake cam bush
5.16
carden shaft sleeve
31.40
rear subframe tab washer (each)
0.82
rear mudguard (remanufactured)
166.98
rear mudguard brackets (set of 2)
18.28
battery tray and strap
26.96
rear suspension unit (each)
early rear axle bearings 6204
5.72
early axle oil seal (28 x 42.5 x 8)
4.80
final drive chain
17.21
rear hood latch
seal to compliment firewall seal
4.91
petrol tank grommet
5.56
petrol tank cap
10.21
steel cable cover
34.72
steel trackrod cover
34.72
wheel disc 1960 type
12.61
wheel disc 1955/56 type
12.12
wheel disc 1957/59 type
11.30
hub Cap Roadster
11.18
Tiger wheel disc
7.20
fittings 1478b wheel disc
4.85
fittings 1478a wheel disc
4.85
inner tube with cranked valve
7.66
air cleaner sleeve
27.56
heater hose 30cm blower to exh’st
3.42
heater hose exhaust to car 240cm
14.65
aluminium bumper bar
7.66
aluminium wing trim (pair)
8.87
window track, velvet covered as original (set) 123.77
upholstery piping 3mm (per mtr)
2.56
1612
1625
1704*
1705*
1715
X111
1763
1763a
1764
1802
1803
X103
1803a
X110
1809
1810a
1810b
1830
upholstery piping, twin tube (per mtr)
2.92
road wheel ( 10mm wheel studs)
41.18
windscreen KR200
163.40
windscreen KR201
247.31
rear view mirror R/H only with stem
58.37
rear view mirror base gromet
1.74
late rear axle securing nut & lock washer
4.60
early rear axle securing nut & lock washer
4.60
rear axle securing plate (tab washer)
1.02
cabriolet hood deflector
26.71
cabriolet hood supports
47.89
cabriolet hood aluminium trim
15.98
cabriolet hood straps
14.29
ali frame upright support (pair)
12.52
trim screws and nuts (10)
2.16
5mm stainless steel washers (10)
1.02
4mm stainless steel washers (10)
1.02
oil ratio transfer
1.74
ELECTRICAL
0275a 8 hole cable rubber sleeve black box bottom
2.78
0275b 8 hole HT cable rubber sleeve to black box
2.78
0277 Siba breakers(Villiers type)
17.53
0280 Siba breaker plate for originals
or Villiers type
58.73
0290 spark plug connector metal shroud
6.38
0292 NGK spark plug
4.80
0294 7 hole cable rubber sleeve to crank case
2.78
0295 protective rubber HT cap
1.38
0298 carbon brushes Bosch (4)
19.86
0298a carbon brushes Siba (4)
19.86
0299 reversing relay
0.00
1526 headlamp bulb
3.88
1527 headlamp rim, aluminium
7.40
1527a headlamp rim, chrome
15.12
1527b bolts & special washers for headlamp rims
12.25
1528 headlamp seal
3.76
1529 headlamp lens
24.95
1530 headlamp reflector
26.35
1531 bulb holder
17.36
X115 Tiger headlight pods (pair)
155.50
1533 indicator lamp (each)
inquire Partsmart
1534 dip switch, USED
5.21
1534a dip switch NOS
7.15
1535 flasher unit
4.60
1536 fuses, packet of 10
1.68
1537 fuse box
28.44
1539 indicator switch, as original
1539a indicator switch
5.21
1540 rear oval lamp rubber
3.78
1541 Bosch light switch
17.21
1542 red oval lens
31.27
1544 brake lamp
13.98
1546 wing and torpedo bulb
1.18
1548 dashlamp: red/blue/green/amber(each) 4.19
1549 dashlamp bulb - old type holder
0.97
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1549a
1549b
1550
1552
1556
1560
1560a
1561
1563
1564
1564a
1565
1567
1567a
1568
1569
1570
1571
1710
1710a
1714
1572
1574*
1580
1580a
1580b
1581
1581a
1714a
X108
X117
X118
X119
dashlamp bulb - new type holder
0.97
speedo lamp holder
2.40
indicator bulb 15w
0.97
festoon bulb 5w
0.86
festoon bulb 15w
1.13
wiper arm
15.06
wiper arm NOS original
18.38
wiper blade
10.37
condenser
9.91
regulator box
NLA
regulator box - non standard
113.21
ignition coil
18.38
rubber base for orange indicators
2.78
rubber base for early red indicators
2.78
rubber base for stop light
2.78
terminal block, front
1.54
terminal block, rear
1.74
complete wiring harness
84.00
wing lamp rubber
4.96
wing lamp rubber pre 1959
5.56
wing lamp, good match, eastern plastic (each) 18.28
brake light switch
8.63
Siba dynastart, armature only
295.81
red round lens
36.84
red round lens - plastic
4.91
red round lenses - glass
14.52
rear light, black or silver (pair)
223.22
lamp holders & mounting bracket for 1581
16.34
wing lamp, Hella, plastic (each)
15.67
early wing lamp lens (each)
14.60
Bosch black box wiring diagram label
3.34
internal lamp assy for front side lights 17.03
twin filament assy to retrofit Torpedo unit
17.03
SPECIAL TOOLS
0405 clutch holding tools
0414 clutch compressor
0419 flywheel holding tool
0420 guide pin tool
0424 crank seal guide (Bosch)
0425 crank seal guide (Siba)
0437 flywheel extractor
0439 clutch hub extractor
0442 drive sprocket extractor
0443 front axle puller
0444 plug spanner
X101 exhaust nut tightening tool
X104 final drive locking tool
X105 handlebar puller
X106 handlebar nut remover
X109 rear axle pusher
12.97
3.78
12.92
3.88
3.88
3.88
17.46
16.19
26.71
17.46
3.32
3.94
12.61
33.55
5.21
36.72
PUBLICATIONS
1804 FMR parts list
1805 Sachs part list
1806 KR200 workshop manual
1807 engine manual
1819 engine diagram
1820 wiring diagram
1821 Dynastart leaflet - Siba
1822 Bosch Dynastart manual
1825 Karotips
1826 owners handbook
1827 Story of the Messerschmitt
1828 lapel badge
1838 Kabinews binder, holds 24 editions
1839 MOC cloth badge
1840 MOC car badge (metal)
3.37
3.37
12.02
5.72
2.56
2.56
0.61
3.58
3.32
3.32
0.00
3.32
5.46
3.12
5.46
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Road Trip to the MCD Rally at Lobenfeld, Germany
by Andy Woolley
A late decision to attend the MCD’s annual
rally in my KR200 meant a hurried rebuild
of a spare engine in case of disaster. Having
needed to swap engines during my last two
continental forays, this seemed like a good
idea. The original plan was to travel with
Mark Smith and Barry Rossiter in their
TG500s but, unfortunately, Barry had to
cancel his plans due to ill health.
Wednesday, 16 May
Leaving home at 3.00am the ’schmitt was
running wonderfully well in the cold damp
air and I arrived in Dover much too early for
the 6.00am ferry to Dunkirk. When I arrived
there it was only 6ºc! After a smooth crossing
I disembarked to find Mark Smith waiting at
the quayside, having used the Channel
Tunnel. We set off with the aim of sticking to
rural roads, which was fun if slow. With short
stops for coffee and to visit the defunct race
circuit at Nivelles in Belgium we found a
convenient lunch stop. The weather had
deteriorated by now and we were encountering
frequent and heavy rain showers. On the move
again we decided to take the E511 motorway
after Namur to make sure of reaching our
overnight halt at Kenn in Germany, which
we made by 7.00pm. Some minor
maintenance was then carried out on my
KR200 after Mark reported that the nearside
rear lights weren’t working. This turned out
to be a broken wire going into the connector
block on the firewall, which was soon
resolved.
Thursday, 17 May
A reasonably early start meant that we
arrived at the rally site in Lobenfeld in the
late morning after a lovely run through the
forests of the Moselle valley. David and
Rylawyn Garner had arrived just before us
and were busy unloading their KR200s from
their van/trailer outfit. After a pleasant lunch
in the sunshine we set off on the first road
run, which was a short trip for coffee and cake
to a restaurant in Kraichgau, where the
Heidelberg group of the MCD have their
meetings. On return to the rally site we met
up with Wynford Jones and Mike Webster who
had driven from the UK in their KR200s.
There was a chance to look at the cars that
had arrived and my attention was immediately
focused on a largely aluminium bodied
KR200. Talking to the owner revealed that it
was 40kg lighter than a standard car and went
like hell! After an evening barbecue and a
few beers we retired to our hotel.
Friday, 18 May
The road run started at 10.00am and we
drove through some lovely countryside along
the River Neckar with stops for lunch at
Gundelsheim and then on to Castle
Guttenberg for a falconry display. The Tigers
were assigned a longer route and it sounded
like they all had great fun seeing which TG
was quickest. After returning to the rally site
Mark and I joined Wynford and Mike for an
evening meal near our hotel.
Saturday, 19 May
Harry Connors arrived at the rally field in
his TG500 but it was not charging or starting.
As he was unable to fix it there and then I
offered Harry a lift for the run in my KR200.
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At the field also was Ryalwyn Garner tending
a collection of plants that he must have bought
atmospheric test version that was powered by
four jet engines. The orbital version had
completed just one unmanned space flight in
1988 before the programme was cancelled due
to lack of funds following the collapse of the
Soviet Union.
Leaving the museum in the late afternoon
we were in a hurry to get back to the rally
field so that Harry could fix his Tiger.
However, my car started misfiring badly and
eventually would barely run at all. The
ignition coil was very hot and leaking oil so I
changed that with no effect. Fiddling with the
points wires seemed to improve things to the
point where we were able to get going again
and return to Lobenfeld. On closer inspection
I found that one of the points wires was not
properly secured in a connector block so that
was soon put right. I then had some time to
wander round the various stalls and made a
few purchases before bumping into Alan
Forbes who had flown in on his way to
Bulgaria. Meanwhile Mark and Harry were
removing the Tiger’s dynastart and after 5
hours they had got it all back together to find
it would now start but not charge. The
regulator had been damaged with some earlier
fiddling but now it was time for the Saturday
night dinner and prize-giving, which was
at a local nursery! We left the rally field at
9.30 for a straight forward run to the
HockenheimGliderport, where we were able
to park 135 Messerschmitt cars around a
Messerschmitt Me108 aircraft. Phil our
President remarks that an Me108 aircraft
(possibly the same one that did the
demonstration at the rally) was used in the
film 633 Squadron posing as an Me109! After
photos were taken the cars were moved and
we were treated to a take-off and flying display
before moving on to the superbTechnikMuseum at Speyer where we had lunch and
then explored the museum. There were some
fascinating exhibits including many military
aircraft as well as cars and motorbikes but
the crowning glory has to be the Russian
Buran, which seemed to be an almost direct
copy of the US Space Shuttle. This was the
nicely rounded off by the firing up of a KR200
engine in a test frame inside the dining hall!
It was now too dark for Harry to drive home
in a non-charging Tiger so Mark and I offered
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to put him up on the sofa bed in our hotel
room. We slept very peacefully that night
knowing that we had the protection of a
special forces agent in our room!
Sunday, 20 May
We duly delivered a very grateful Major
Connors back to the rally field and he had a
good run to Bert Grimmer’s place where the
regulator was changed and charging restored.
It was time to say our goodbyes to our fellow
rallyists before dumping my KR200 back at
the hotel and then heading off for a trip in
trip in my KR200 to the Auto &Technik
Museum at Sinsheim, which is run by the
same people as the museum at Speyer. Here
they have a Concorde as well as a TU144
Konkordski and a very impressive display of
cars including two KR200s and the monster
the Tiger to the Porsche Museum at
Zuffenhausen, near Stuttgart. On the return
journey Mark impressed me by getting his
Tiger up to a GPS recorded 80mph on the
Autobahn (that was nearly 90mph on the
speedo!).
Monday, 21 May
We left the Tiger at the hotel and made a
aero-engined ‘Brutus’ as recently seen on Top
Gear. My KR200 seemed to attract constant
attention in the car park.
Tuesday, 22 May
Mark and I set off for the long trip home
at 6.30am and made very quick progress
before stopping in Lille at 3.00pm and going
our separate ways. I finally arrived home at
9.00pm having covered 502 miles in one day.
Total mileage for the trip was 1,191 and I’d
got through 99 litres of fuel, which works out
to a pretty poor 54.8 mpg.
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The Rally Field at
Lobenfeld.
Lunch stop on the
Friday run out.
Mike Webster and
Wynford Jones
setting off for the
long journey home
in their KR200s.
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