Going for the gold, Mike

PRESIDENTS CORNER
September 2014
You could be a red neck if your metal detector costs more than your car...You could be a redneck if
your metal detector costs more than your wife's engagement ring…You could be a redneck if your metal
detector costs more than your mom and dad’s first house...
Wow the cost of a metal detector has skyrocketed with the price of gold, would we be paying as
much if gold was 250.00 an ounce, some of us would, it’s more than the money. Gold fever has no cure
except maybe the satisfaction of the discovery.
Coils cost upwards of $600.00 yet they seem to last only a few years. I have repaired several coils and
the biggest problem has been leaving them in the car, which causes the styrofoam to shrink. Heat is your
biggest enemy causing the tape which is used to hold together wires in the coil to separate. When you touch
anything with the coil it sounds off as a target response, or just a slight bump caused erratic behavior. You
have a transmitting coil and a receiving coil with a little wire which aligns them seen with a o scope. When
this wire moves the signal misaligns and acts erratic as with a responsive signal, very frustrating. Keep your
metal detector out of a hot car and away from a heat source. If you shake the coil and you feel movement
the styrofoam has shrunk causing movement and erratic behavior. I have opened up the coils and used
silicone to fill the space created from the shrinking, fixing the problem and quieting the coil. You've invested a
lot of money in your metal detector so take care, some detector builders are starting to stop repairs on
older models hoping you will upgrade. The good manufacturers stand behind what they've created, period.
Before you buy, ask questions about the company. Especially when buying used equipment. If you have a
question on your machine or a future purchase email the Goldhounds and I will be glad to respond in the
Presidents Corner.....
Going for the gold,
Mike
Cyndy’s Meeting Notes:
Notes from the August 8, 2014 meeting: Mike started the meeting off with his usual charm and wit and
announced that the ice cream for our ice cream social would be there at 7:30pm, to the groans of all of us waiting for
our ice cream.
In the meantime, Mike announced the 2 miners of the month. The first one was to go to our “Ambassador for
Gold Mining”- Ray Dodds. And the other went to someone who has put in many years at a somewhat thankless, but
important job. Our “Queen of the kitchen”- Lee Buhler. CONGRATS to both of you!
Mike’s winner of the nugget went to Katsuto Oune, for traveling the longest distance. He came from San
Francisco for the meeting. By way of Red Hawk Casino to do a little mining of a different kind too! He said he lost his
pan and shovel there. Hee hee!
Mike did a short program on gold and finding it at the La Porte outing. Afterward, Cyndy had a surprise
presentation. In appreciation for all the years of producing our wonderful BBQ tri-tip meat at our large camp- outings,
Don Coppin was presented with a “BBQ Master” swinger for his name tag. THANK YOU Don, your tireless work is truly
appreciated!
Mike handed out a slip of paper to everyone for a game to play while enjoying the ice cream, that helped
everyone learn everyone else’s name. You had to spell “GOLDHOUNDS” with the first letter of someone in the club’s
First, Middle, or Last name. That was quite a game! I didn’t catch what the first, second or third prizes were, nor the
names of the winners. But it had everyone talking to each other as well as enjoying their ice cream! CONGRATULATIONS
to the winners!
Thank You very much to the Red Hat Ladies for all your help serving the ice cream, also to ALL the members for
the wonderful toppings for the ice cream, also to any members that brought fruit and veggies to share with everyone!
Of course we had our raffle too! And thank goodness we had a couple of people that brought their cameras to
the meeting!
And Don’t Forget
Sept. 12, 13 & 14, 2014
The State and National Gold Panning Championships will be on Sept. 13 & 14, this year.
NOT ON LABOR DAY.
Friday, Sept. 12, 2014, will be the set up date for the Gold Panning Championships this year. If you would like
to help out with getting things set up for this event, the start time will be at 8:00am on Friday, Sept. 12 th. At
the Park in Foresthill. We are usually finished by 12:00pm, or shortly afterward. (Our monthly meeting will
also be held in AUBURN on this evening as usual.) This year we are hosting the State and the National
Championships!
Thanx!
Cyndy
Heather and Helper
supervising the raffle table, Thanks!
Are these the winning numbers?
Ray Dodds, “Ambassador for Gold Mining”
Our “Queen of the Kitchen” Lee Buhler
Ever wondered how the vials of gold used to
teach gold panning get filled?
Now you know…Thank you Cyndy!
From Annie Robinson
TO OUR GOLDHOUND MEMBERS,
OUR ANNUAL HERITAGE CELEBRATION AND THE GOLDPANNING CHAMPIONSHIPS WILL NOT BE HELD ON
LABOR DAY WEEKEND. WE HAVE MOVED THE DATE TO THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND, 9/13 & 9/14.
CALIFORNIA STATE AND U.S. GOLD PANNING CHAMPIONSHIPS WILL BE HELD AT THE
FORESTHILL HERITAGE CELEBRATION – SEPTEMBER 13 & 14, 2014, AT THE MEMORIAL PARK
Our event is right around the corner! We are getting ready for a busy & fun time. This year will be for two
Championships, the State and the U.S. Nationals. The World Gold Panning event will have 21 Countries competing for
the World titles and will be held in Kopparberg, Sweden, August 11-17. Fuzzy & Joyce Mason along with Mike &
Barbara Sutton will be there to represent the United States then return to California in time to compete in our State and
U.S. events. Good Luck on your winning and be safe on your trip. The World will be held in Placerville, Calif. in 2016
and will be an exciting time for all of us who enjoy panning competition.
The World was held in Coloma in 1998 and we will never forget the excitement of the 21 countries that traveled
to California for a week of camaraderie and celebration. Years ago our Life member Carol Ebbitt served as our U.S.
Representative. We will never forget Carol and her enjoyment of gold panning competition and traveling to the World
events. She is missed and what a winner!
Our State and U.S. event is expected to draw the best panners in the U.S. The Competition will look like the
“who’s who” in gold panning. Competing this year will be California State and U.S. National Medal Winners, including
previous World Gold Panning Participants, with the 2001 World Senior Champion Mike Sutton. Categories – Men’s,
Women’s, Veterans, Open, Classic, Junior’s, Beginner’s and 3-man Team event. Preliminaries will be held on 9/13.
Finals for Junior’s and Beginners will be held on 9/13. Finals for Men’s, Women’s, Veteran’s, Open, Classic and Teams
will be held on Sunday, 9/14. Entry fees will be $5.00 for Junior’s, $10.00 for Men’s, Women’s, Veterans, Open, Classic,
and Beginner’s, 3-manTeam entry fee, $5 per member. Rules will be posted at the Championship registration Booth.
The Heritage event will also include Lumberjack & Horseshoe contests along with many other activities
including a great Bar-B-Q by the American Legion Post 587. The Girl Scouts will be there to serve a Pancake breakfast,
starting at 7:00 am on Sunday. Lots of Craft & Food Vendors and a famous “Chili Cook-off” will be held. Goldhounds
will hold our Annual raffle drawing on Sunday; you need not be present to win.
The Championships will begin at 8:00 am both days, 9/13 & 9/14. We will be setting up tents, tables, etc. on
Friday, 9/12. The regular meeting will be held that evening at the Memorial Hall in Auburn. Some of you that come
from out of town will be staying at the Memorial Park for the weekend. We have lots of RV, trailer and camping room
and it’s free. If you come in on the afternoon 9/12 you may stay in the front parking lot near the Memorial Hall. We will
be there and we hope to get you into the camping area early afternoon.
If you have not signed up for the weekend help, come on in and we will put you where you are needed. We
need Timers for the Gold Panning Championships and Ray Dodds of “Nuggetsville Gold Panning” can always use help
teaching the adults and the little ones. We would sure appreciate what time you can give to this event as this is our
only fundraiser for the year. We will have a sign-up sheet at the next meeting or email us to let us know you can help.
My email is anniecarol@reagan.com.
The following are the booths we have to cover:
Control & set up will be the responsibility of Don Robinson, Ron Gribble, Mike Bowers & Robert Jordan and Crew. Gold
Panning Championships requires a lot of organizing and Robert Jordan and Ron Gribble will again be looking for timers,
we must have 12 timers going at all times. Check in for helping here.
Mucking out practice tubs will be included and will need cleaning out on an "as needed" basis.
Head Salter – Ron Gribble, will receive help from Brian Bartholomew and Ed Ebbitt Jr.
Fill the Buckets - We will need people to help fill the buckets with Gravel and hope that Rich Hussey can help.
Check with Robert, Ron, Ed or Brian when you get there.
Main Judges – Steve Larson and Mike Matus will do this important job. They will need to have help with posting
and moving the panners through. Karen Bartholomew did the posting last year with perfect timing. We hope
Karen will return again this year.
Head Judge – Merle Litzsinger we hope will be with us this year also. Merle is the Master at this job!
Gold Panning Championship Registration: Jean Hussey will be doing this job with help from Cyndy Burchard. I
appreciate them helping out here more than they know! Thank you Jean and Cyndy!
Raffle Booth: Our "Raffle Lady" Anne Brown will be on duty with the help of Maureen “Mo” & Mike Price,
myself along with many other “helpers” from Goldhounds. Check in with Anne, Annie or Maureen when you
get there.
Membership-Information, selling DVD tapes and raffle tickets; Annie, Anne or Maureen can help here, with
Cyndy and Jean helping on Sunday. To Goldhound Ladies - when you come in please check with us at the front
of our Goldhound booth.
Metal Detecting – This still has to be covered with Mike Bowers. Maybe Jerry Culver can be here to help answer
questions on the art of Metal Detecting. We will send an email with info when we know!
Teaching of Gold Panning – We are hoping Sam & Henerittta Markley will help check the little ones in, along
with Ray Dodds “Ambassador to Gold Miners” Also help from Barbara & Charlie Brown. This area can get really
busy, especially on Sunday! Help where you can. Maybe Scott Carrington can get some good pictures here?
Thanks Scott for your pictures and help with the Club newsletter.
Barbara and Joe Cardoza- Goldhound Retired Paparazzi – Joe Cardoza, our ”Famous Artist” will be taking
pictures of the event only when he is able. We are so lucky to have Joe and Barbara, please say thank you to
them for their years of help. Barbara Cardoza has been my “Gold Lady” and “Go To Helper” for all these years
and we cannot begin to thank them for their dedication to the Goldhounds. Joe’s pictures and Barbara’s gold
panning competition will never be forgotten. We miss them at every event and always send our Love to them.
Bless you Joe and Barbara.
Master of Ceremonies Announcing and Music – Tom Fisher has been our announcer for several years now but
has retired and we wish him a great life, good health and happiness. We will never forget you Tom and Gir for
your dedication and friendship over the years. Hope to see you at the mine!
Now we all know that our new President Mike Bowers takes to the microphone and runs our meetings so
smoothly. We hope that Mike will be our next Master of Ceremonies & Announcer for our event!
Anne Brown and I are working now on the raffle tickets and they should be out by 7/31/14. If anyone has anything to
donate to the Annual Raffle, please let us know. I am searching for prizes.
Our gold panning teams and participants in the World Championships in Sweden Update
From Barbara Sutton
No medals but a great time was had. Joel and Margie joined us along with Fuzzy’s friends, Dave & Kathy
Wilson. Margie placed 7th in the Beginners Devision and found all her gold. Dave also made the Beginners
finals. The rest of us made it to the Semi Finals. The USA team of Fuzzy, Joyce, Joel, Mike & Barbara had a
good showing of keeping all their gold. Only 5 teams found all their gold but the slower time put us in 9th
place. There were 22 or 23 countries there so 9th isn’t bad! See you in Forest Hill. Barbara
THANK YOU GOLDHOUNDS FOR ALL YOUR HELP AND SUPPORT OVER THE YEARS FOR THIS GREAT CLUB. YOU
ALL ARE THE REAL GOLD OF THE MOTHER LODE!
Bless you all, Annie & Don
2014 Mother Lode Goldhounds Meetings
We meet the second Friday of every month from 7-9pm at the Veterans Hall, 100 East Street, Auburn, CA.
Take Hwy. 80 toward Auburn, get off at Hwy 49 and turn right. At the first stop light turn right, go one block,
turn right again. The Veterans Hall sits on the left, parking is in the back. Bring your friends! The Public is
invited! Come early for snacks, buy raffle tickets, and visit with friends.
Upcoming Goldhounds meeting dates:
September 12
October 10
November 14
Thanksgiving Potluck & Elijah’s Jar
Watch your Email for Details
December 12
Christmas Party
Watch Your Email for Details
2015!
February 13
Friday the 13th!
January 9
MOTHER LODE GOLDHOUNDS SPECIAL EVENT NOTICES
We will be adding club events and sending email to members so Please be sure your email address is up to
date. Send an email to Cyndy Burchard at cyned0523@yahoo.com to update your email address.
Sept 13 & 14:
The California State Gold Panning Championships have been moved to September 13 & 14. It will NOT be
held over Labor Day Weekend. Be sure to update your calendar!
PLP Octoberfest Fundraiser Promises Fun for All
Event to celebrate public lands, freedom of the outdoors.
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WHO: Open to all outdoor enthusiasts. Organized by Sleepy Bear Mine and American Prospector Treasure Seeker.
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WHAT: Public Lands for the People Octoberfest Fundraiser
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WHERE: Sleepy Bear Mining, 21 Goler Road, Randsburg, CA 93554
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WHEN: Oct.18-19
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WHY: To keep public lands open to the public, and mix and mingle with other outdoors enthusiasts.
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HOW: $30 per person age 18 and older. Children 17 and under free or $6 donation for barbecue.
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TO REGISTER: For more information and to RSVP online, go to www.aptsgold.com/Drywashing-Gold.html.
For details, click on the link below or copy and paste to your browser address bar.
http://www.goldprospectors.org/News/News-Details/ArtMID/636/ArticleID/51/PLP-fundraiser-promises-funfor-all
A Note from George Wheeldon –
I am going to lead a Geologic Saunter to Mono Lake on Oct 24,25 & 26 – Price for Club Members is ½ price ($62.50)
Details on my website – gwheeldon.com
Please keep in touch – George Wheeldon
NOTE – THIS SAUNTERING
EXCURSION IS NOT AFFILIATED
WITH FOLSOM LAKE COLLEGE –
THIS IS A PRIVATE OFFERING OF
PROFESSOR WHEELDON’S
GEOLOGICAL SAUNTERING
SOCIETY
How to Enroll for the
Sauntering Excursion Details on website –
gwheeldon.com
Cost - $125/ Person (2 or
more $100 ea.)
(Students –currently enrolled in college or high school = ½ Price = $62.50)
At the bottom of this page are links to TWO Adobe Acrobat forms you must fill out, a simple enrollment form
plus a waiver you must sign. Please download and print and mail them to: Professor Wheeldon’s Geological
Sauntering Society – 2600 Consolation Ct., Shingle Springs, CA 95667 or if you’re computer savvy you can
scan the forms and mail them as e-mail attachments to : Wheeldon@sbcglobal.net
Enrollment is first come, first served. A $40 enrollment fee is refundable if you cancel at least two weeks or
longer ahead of the Sauntering Excursion. You can send the check to the above address. If you find, however,
that you cannot attend a Sauntering Excursion, please get in touch with Professor Wheeldon at
Wheeldon@sbcglobal.net so that he can make arrangements for another person to fill your spot. You will
receive a confirmation letter via email.
..\Sauntering Event Waiver.pdf
..\Sauntering Event Application.pdf
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OTHER CLUBS AND ASSOCIATIONS
Gold Prospectors Association of America (GPAA)
River City Prospectors Chapter meets quarterly in Rio Linda, CA. GPAA has member only claims and outings.
Their “Pick & Shovel Gazette” has good information for everyone who supports mining. Contact Jim Hutchings
at (530) 367-5108 or contact the GPAA at 800-551-9797. Visit www.goldprospectors.com
Roseville Rock Roller Gem & Mineral Society
Meetings on the second Tuesday of every month at the Placerville Fairgrounds in Roseville, CA. 800 All
American City Blvd. www.rockrollers.com or email rockrollers@hotmail.com
Sacramento Valley Detecting Buffs
Meetings on the first Thursday of every month at the Sacramento County Old SMUD Building, corner of
Elkhorn & Don Julio in North Highlands, CA. www.sacramentovalleydetectingbuffs.com
El Dorado County Mineral & Gem Society
Call (530) 676-2472 or visit www.eldoradomineralandgem.org
Placerville Gold Country Treasure Seekers
A metal detecting club. Email gcts10@comcast.net or visit online at
GoldCountryTreasureSeekers.shutterfly.com
Gold Pan California, Gold Adventures
1021 Detroit Ave., Concord, CA - call (925) 825-Gold
Golden Caribou Mining
A small-scale mining gold club in Belden, CA. Call (530) 283-5141 or visit www.goldencaribour.com
United Prospectors
UPI have claims open to members. Outings/meetings every other month.
2401 E. Orangebury Ave., Modesto 95355
Shasta Miners
Club has claims for members use. Meetings at 7 PM on the third Wednesday of every month at the Moose
Lodge on Lake Blvd. in Shasta, CA., just up from Shopko on the left. Call (530) 623-0744
Sierra Nevada Mining Council
Carol Marshall (530) 272-5915, Visit www.MiningCouncil.org or write Box 1567, Grass Valley, CA 95949
The 16 to 1 Underground Gold Miners Museum
Contact them for tours of a working underground mine and special events. Write Box 907, Alleghany, CA
95910. www.undergroundgold.com Email: info@undergroundgold.com (530) 287-3330
Comstock Gold Prospectors
Meetings on the fourth Tuesday of every month at the Masonic Lodge, 2425 Pyramid Way, Sparks, NV. Write
P.O. Box 20781, Reno, NV 89515 or visit www.cgpgold.org
Western Mining Alliance – Miners who fight for our rights to dredge and mine in California. WMA has a great
online newsletter and a great people to work with. Visit www.westernminingalliance.com Email
westermingalliance@gmail.com.
Public Lands for the People
The PLP continues to work on your behalf to keep public lands and mining open to all. www.PLP2.org
(909) 889-3039 7194 Conejo Dr., San Bernardino, CA 92404
DONATIONS for PLP Please remember to make a donation of some kind (no matter how small or large) to
our PLP DONATION JAR, located at the table as you come in to the meeting room. Donate to help them with
fight to keep our mining rights! This is not an inexpensive job, and they aren’t funded by anyone but us, the
casual miner! As miners, we know that every grain eventually adds up to be the ounce!
PLP hosts a running auction for GOLD Flakes on eBay.
Fighting for your right to mine is very expensive so PLP is auctioning off any donations you can make to help
raise money. If you can help they will take just about anything from old heirlooms to vehicles. Contact PLP at
http://plp1.org/contactus.html
GOLDHOUND MEETING AND MEMBER INFORMATION
NAME BADGES: Club name badges can be ordered at any club meeting. See Member Jim Kury.
Badge with Pin Clasp: $4.50 Magnetic Badge: $5.00. EMAIL: JMKURY@SEBASTIANCORP.NET
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FORREST GRIBBLE is in charge of our Monthly Raffles. Thank You Forrest for all you do to help the club out.
You and your Dad (Ron) are a real blessing to our Nuggets & Goldhounds.
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GOLDHOUND T-SHIRTS Will Be Ready Soon!
Contact Cyndy Burchard cyned0523@yahoo.com for info or to place an order.
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CYNDY BURCHARD is in charge of our membership and is the club Secretary, as well as our Sunshine Lady.
Cyndy also sends emails out for the Goldhounds and Nuggets.
A BIG THANK YOU to Cyndy for all her hard work.
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GOLDHOUND PATCH’S for sale at each meeting. See Cyndy Burchard $6.00 each
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GOLDHOUND MEETINGS are held the 2nd Friday of each month at the Auburn Veterans Hall, 7:00PM-9:00PM,
100 EAST ST., AUBURN, CA. Take Hwy. 80 toward Auburn, get off at Hwy 49 and turn right. At the first stop
light turn right, go one block, turn right again. The Veterans Hall sits on the left, parking is in the back. The
public is welcome to attend.
GOLDHOUND CLASSIFIEDS
PLP auctions on eBay. Contact PLP at http://plp1.org/contactus.html
Remember, these auctions help to raise money for PLP to keep fighting our mining and dredging rights.
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For Sale -- 2002 Holiday Rambler Atlantis motor home. It is 28 0r 29 ft, Ford F450 chassis with two
slide outs and only a little over 32,000 miles. It was well maintained and kept very clean inside and
out. Interested parties need to know it has to clear the DMV's time frame for probate. It won't be an
issue because it is paid for and they want to sell it either way. If interested call Wes at 530-273-8156
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For Sale – Lou Mosnier says…Due to age (91), my mining days are over, and I am selling all my
mining equipment. If you could put a note to that effect in the News Letter, I would appreciate it.
Items for sale include Vicella electric kiln, Dayton elect rock grinder, 4" Keene dredge, Desert Fox
panner, Highbanker, Motors, ProMac ValPak, MineLab GP Extreme detector and coils, Sluice boxes,
Come-alongs, Screens, pans, rock net, cable, pry bars, various tools.
Thanks! Lou Mosnier, member since the 1980's
Fair Oaks, Sacramento. (916) 961-0568
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Do you have something for sale? For Barter? Or just want to offer it free for the asking?
List it free for all Goldhounds, here on the Goldhound Classifieds. Send your ad and contact information to
Sherry Andersen at SherryRocks57@gmail.com along with any photos needed. Your ad will be in the next
newsletter and can go on the Goldhounds Live page on Goldhounds.com web site if requested.
THE MOTHER LODE GOLDHOUND NAME, IMAGES, AND PHOTOS ARE THE PROPERTY
of Mother Lode Goldhounds
and cannot be used without expressed written permission.
Don’t even try it, remember, we hang claim jumpers.
The Mother Lode Goldhounds and Nuggets want to Thank Hansen Brothers for their generous donations of
gravel used by the Nuggets during gold panning demonstrations and lessons.
Ron Earl
GOLDHOUND MEMBERSHIP APPLICATION
For questions regarding your membership status please contact
Cyndy Burchard at cyned0523@yahoo.com or call (530) 346-9481
If you would like to join/renew your membership, please print out this form
and send the completed form with a check/money order payable to:
Mother Lode Goldhounds, P.O. Box 1371, Colfax, CA 95713
( ) $40.00 Individual ( ) $45.00 Family ( ) Senior & Spouse (age 70+) $30
( ) New membership or ( ) Renewal (one year applies to all)
NAME_________________________________________EMAIL____________________________
ADDRESS_______________________________________PHONE__________________________
CITY________________________________ STATE__________ZIP CODE__________________
I hereby apply for membership/renewal with the Mother Lode Goldhounds. I fully understand
Mother Lode Goldhounds and its agents do not provide goods or services for any of my activities
including, for example, mining equipment or supplies, lodging, transportation, food, etc. Mother Lode
Goldhounds is not liable for any negligent or unwillful act or failure to act by providers of such goods
or services during my activities. I acknowledge that there may be certain risks involved with activities
as a member including, but not limited to, rugged or uneven terrain, uncertain or unpredictable river
currents, physical exertion for which I am not prepared, or other unknown forces of nature, high
altitude, accident or illness without access to means or rapid evacuation or availability of medical
supplies, the adequacy of medical attention once provided, or negligence on part of Mother Lode
Goldhounds.
I hereby agree to be responsible for my own welfare and accept any and all risks of
unanticipated events, illness, injury, emotional, trauma or death. I acknowledge that the cost of
Mother Lode Goldhounds membership is based upon participants executing this release of liability.
That whatever recreational event I, or my family attend, I am responsible and at no time will have
legal or financial claim against, nor will hold responsible, any member or club official of the Mother
Lode Goldhounds for any damages or injuries. I agree that this release shall be legally binding upon
me personally, all members of my family and all minors travelling with me, my heirs, successors,
assigns and legal representatives, it being my intention to fully assume all risk associated with my
activities as a member of the Mother Lode Goldhounds.
I have read and fully understand this release and membership application.
SIGNATURE________________________________________ DATE______________________
MOTHER LODE GOLDHOUND NEWSLETTER
November 2013
P.O. BOX 149
FORESTHILL, CA 95631
(530) 367-2891
www.goldhounds.com
T
Frank, finding nuggets on
the North Fork.
NEWSLETTER ISSUED MONTHLY - Issue #318 September 2014
Mailing address: MOTHER LODE GOLDHOUNDS
P.O. Box 149, Foresthill, Ca. 95631
A CALIFORNIA NON-PROFIT MINERALS EDUCATION ASSOCIATION
PUBLIC WELCOME!
One Year Membership: $45.00 Family $40.00 Individual
Editor: Sherry Andersen (916) 812-7813 SherryRocks57@gmail.com
Goldhounds (530) 367-2891 email: goldworld@wildblue.net