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(and present). Page 2 - Old English Car Club
VOLUME 20, NUMBER 5
Sept-Oct 2015
INSIDE THIS ISSUE
UPCOMING EVENTS
Member’s Cars
2
AC 2 Litre Update
8
Rear View Mirror
10
PoCo Car Show Report
11
Welcome to the OECC / The
Boot / At The Wheel
12
Sunday, Nov. 1, 2015—London to Brighton Commemorative Run Details on website or from Walter Reynolds at 604-463-6305.
Tuesday, Nov. 3, 2015—Annual Branch AGM at Rainbow Station, 120 N. Willingdon Ave., Burnaby 7:00pm
followed by a presentation by John Rennie on the history of the Ford Cortina.
Tuesday, Dec. 1,2015—VCB Christmas Dinner—
Details to come.
Les Foster shines a light on the cars and
trucks of his past (and present). Page 2
Cars of Branch Members and Their Stories
By Walter Reynolds
Our next family car was a new 1955 Hillman Minx purchased from Sherwood Motors.
The Cars of Les Foster
In this issue we hear about the cars of Les Foster. Les
started his driving ‘career’ with the below Tri-ang pedal
car.
The Minx
Dad found that the Minx was too under-powered. It was
tan colour, too, with wide-whitewall tires that I remember
scrubbing as my contribution to its weekly wash.
Me taken outside my Sea Island home, in 1953 when
sidewalks were still wooden
The next and favourite family car was a new 1957 Morris
Isis six-cylinder purchased from Fred Deeley’s on Broadway in Vancouver.
As I’ve done in earlier interviews on member’s cars, I ask
the question, “Why British cars?” Les’ answers reported
here are from my interview with him plus excerpts from
articles he has written about his British cars. These articles have appeared in past issues of both the OECC
‘Spanner” magazine and the VCB ‘Roundabout’ newsletter. Except as shown, all the photos are provided by Les.
Now, onto Les’ story.
Our family’s first car was a Ford Prefect E493A bought
around 1950.
The 6-cylinder Isis
Dad liked its uniqueness- there were very few around this
area, especially manual transmission versions. The gear
lever was between the edge of the front bench seat and
the driver’s door for a sportier feel while still allowing a
third person in the front seat. It was a great car and, as a
child, its chrome “wings” flanking the Morris badge on the
bonnet reminded me of my father’s moustache! The car
was painted a medium grey and had red leather upholstery. We loved that car and it took us on quite a few
expeditions to Alberta and Vancouver Island in the late
50’s and early 60’s, always drawing interest from people
unfamiliar with the marque.
Mom and I with the Prefect in the background.
I have memories of its two tone (tan over maroon) paint
work; its woodgrain dash and clock and chrome windscreen crank which were all at my young eye-level. My
first car was a hand-me-down Tri-ang pedal car which I
called “The English Car”, and in which I happily motored
up and down our Sea Island wooden sidewalks.
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In the 60’s Dad took us to the Vintage Car Club’s Easter
Parade display at Oakridge a few times. The beautiful
restorations and preservation of these cars made a deep
impression on me - I secretly vowed to do this myself,
one day!
In the early 60’s my brother became old enough to drive
and, once he started to work, went in on a project with his
neighbourhood friend to build a hot-rod. To this end, my
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brother purchased two 1951 Ford Thames E83W vans.
One, an ex-painter’s truck, was disassembled and partially cut-up to be the rod. The other, intended to be a donor
vehicle was purchased from a Richmond blueberry farmer
for forty dollars.
a short while, losing interest, and then selling them on. I
often handled the sales and I fell in love with old cars that
way. I was already interested in history and the cars just
seemed to evoke that. They were time machines, gateways to another era!
Blueberry farm Thames E83W van
The repainted Thames outside the Stave Falls store, 1980
The boys soon tired of the project which was clearly over
their financial, skill and attention-span level! My brother
kept the farm Thames and we drove it around quite a lot
for a year or so.
In 1965 my father decided to replace the Isis. He went to
Fred Deeley and looked at the new Austin 1800 saloon
but decided it wasn’t for him. He worked downtown and
had seen a lovely convertible in the window of Harris &
Taylor Motors at Burrard and Dunsmuir. It was a Renault
Caravelle 1100 - a beautiful and economical touring car
that could seat three people and came with a removable
steel hardtop for winter.
The Thames on Sea Island in 1968
One day my brother needed fifteen dollars to attend a
dance and I saw my chance. I paid him the money and
secured the pink slip. The farm van was mine! At that
time, I knew almost nothing about motor vehicles and only vaguely grasped that the Thames was a Ford. It was
just an old truck back then and attracted little notice from
anyone. Parts were very hard to obtain but I had the leftover stuff from the scrapped painter’s van at least. I kept
that van from 1965 until 1984 when I donated it to the
Richmond Museum. In 1967, I made it my Canada Centennial Project to refurbish it and sanded the van to bare
metal, had it painted red, obtained my driver’s license and
drove it everywhere. I loved that truck - it was a friend as
much as a machine!
I painted the van in Studebaker red and had it ready for
the Centennial in 1967. The damage to the paintwork in
the next photo was the result of a petrol tank fire during
the post-painting restoration work.
Meanwhile, in the mid-60’s my brother went through a
phase, for a couple of years, of purchasing interesting old
American cars for about a hundred dollars, keeping them
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Renault Caravelle 1100
(Advert photo)
He fell in love with it and it started a flirtation with French
vehicles for the next half dozen or more years. When not
in the Thames, I was in the Caravelle. My brother and his
friend built a Renault Dauphine-Gordini slalom racer
which eventually passed to me and this resulted in a few
old Dauphine donor vehicles being accumulated.
My buddy and I cut the roof off one on a whim one day,
leaving just the windshield. We got all the old house paint
that we could find, camouflaged it and drove it to Iona
Island to play Desert Rats on the beach. Our knowledge
of monocoque construction was non-existent and it soon
sagged in the middle, pinching the shift rods to the rearmounted transmission and sticking us in second gear.
We limped home and never drove it again. My brother
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bought a Renault Gordini 1100 in 1966 - virtually a race
car with an incredible power to weight ratio. I passed
through the Deas Tunnel at over 100 mph in it one night
back in the day of much less traffic! My Dad traded the
Caravelle for a Renault Estafette 800 front wheel drive
van in about 1968.
My refurbished, pop-up-roof VW van
Blue Renault Dauphine-Gordini with the Thames
We camperised the Estafette and it made several trips
around BC and Alberta and a half dozen expeditions to
California or the Oregon Coast over the next several
years. It eventually developed too many issues (mostly
due to chronic overloading) and, as my father drove little
at this time due to vision problems, he sold it and I bought
a tired old Peugeot 403. This took me on an epic TransCanada drive in 1971 - total fuel and oil bill $58! Next
year, after the 403 was damaged by a hit and run driver
while it was parked, I bought a 403 Station Wagon,
switched the sedan’s motor to it and set off for the East
again. It was an even more eventful trip!
The dealer had added a Webasto sun roof and wooden
dashboard to the Mini before I bought it. I kept the car a
year or so but I was now married with a new family. The
Mini came with mandated head restraints which, unfortunately, meant that the seats would no longer lift fully up.
This made getting into the back seats very difficult. In
general, the “modern” features like roll-up windows, head
restraints, etc. just stole room and usability from the Mini.
So, the Mini had to go!
1977 Leyland Mini – note the sun roof
The Mini’s replacement was a very nice used Volvo wagon which served well until premium leaded gas was
phased out. Its engine was not happy after that! Next I
bit the bullet and went to domestic vehicles for the long
haul of family life and multiple kids. I still loved old cars
though and dreamed of getting one again someday.
Renault Estafette 800 van with dad’s VW
After that I had a lovely, refurbished 1966 Peugeot 404
sedan which was also destroyed by a hit and run driverafter one day! The next step was a VW van that I completely refurbished and made a pop-up top for.
The VW van served me well for five years but I eventually
tired of its slow speed and sold it to buy my first brand
new car - a 1977 Mini from McLaughlin Motors
(successors to Deeley’s).
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Returning to the 1960’s and the Thames: By the end of
the decade the pace of life increased and the interests of
a young man took precedence over the Thames - it languished at my father’s house for a number of years. In
the later 70’s, my father’s impending house move and my
purchase of my first house impelled me to get the
Thames mobile again and I took it to my new home.
Sadly, by 1984, I was moving to a townhouse and I was
forced to part with it (major mistake!). It went to the Richmond Museum who eventually did a partial restoration of
it before putting it into long term storage.
About ten years later, a chance conversation on the bus
that I was driving, led me to a renewal of interest in
Thames trucks. I happened to be talking to a clerk from
my bus garage whose husband, it transpired, was an ‘old
car’ guy. I told the clerk (Kelly Beenham) about my 1949
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Plymouth which I’d purchased in 1988 and still drove to
work every day.
I acquired every model of Thames: vans, pickups, Estate
Car, and bits and pieces of countless others. I educated
myself on all things Thames, joining the OECC, the Ford
Sidevalve Owners Club (I’m now their “Canada Contact”
and field a lot of questions), the now-defunct English and
European Ford Club based in the Northwest US, and the
Vintage Car Club of Canada. I still belong to the OECC,
of course and remain active in the FSOC as well. I have
also joined the BC Pioneer Truck Society.
Me and the Thames at new home in Maple Ridge
Ford Thames E83W Estate Car. The late Dick Van Dyke
helping push the Estate off its delivery trailer
A brief affair with Austins came about in 2001 after I got a
tip on an estate sale in Kerrisdale. It turned out to be a
1958 Austin A55 Cambridge. I bought it for $50, got it
running, shamelessly bodged its rusty body and came out
with a cute driver that was loads of fun.
1949 Plymouth
(I owned the Plymouth from 1988 to 2007/8. It was a
great car. I always liked the plainer ‘working man’s’ cars
and was fascinated by 1940s and 1950s American cars.)
Kelly told me about her husband, Paul, who drove his
Vauxhall to my garage every day, too. She then mentioned that he had a Prefect as well and I countered with
my story about my Dad’s Prefect and my old Thames. A
meeting with Paul ensued and the rest is history. Paul
introduced me to the OECC (we were amongst the founders of the VCB) and put me on to a Thames that Ian Cox
was selling on the Island. That grey Thames van was the
first of many over the next few years!
Alfreda the Austin
I named the Austin “Alfreda” after the original owner,
whose name was Alfreda. I bought a ’57 Cambrian for
parts, too. After a few years I had to make room and
raise funds for my Thames resto so I sold the Austins on
as a package. Alfreda the Austin was a great little car!
The 49 Plymouth went around the same time and for the
same reasons - sadly missed but I needed to focus on my
goal!
In 2007, I began a liaison with the Canadian War Museum in Ottawa, answering questions about their Fordson
E83W (Fordson was the name used by Ford of England
for their commercial line until about 1952 when the name
Thames was adopted).
Ex-Ian Cox Thames van outside my home
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but eventually had to concede that it was beyond our
skills. I had dreamed of “improving” it with TR parts - perhaps disc brakes and a Triumph engine for a really drivable truck. It was not to be and another potential distraction from my Thames project was sent on its way early in
2010.
The CWM’s Fordson Emergency Food Van in Ottawa
pre-restoration
I was able to pass on a lot of helpful information to aid
the restoration of the CWM’s Fordson Emergency Food
Van #1 (a WWII civil defence vehicle from the UK) and
eventually flew to Ottawa, in 2008, to assist them with
advice and some special parts. I’m proud to say that I
was mentioned at the unveiling of the vehicle to the public!
The CWM’s Fordson Emergency Food Van
post-restoration
In 2000, while on vacation in Powell River, BC, I had
sought out and located a Thames E83W pickup that I had
heard rumours of. This green and black vehicle had been
made to run and given a paint job and, thankfully, kept
mostly original. I purchased it from a bodyman who’d
taken it in exchange for a paint job on the former owner’s
next project. He was going to hot rod it “someday” but
had been using it for a family storage bin for seven years.
I shipped it to Richmond by barge and had it towed home.
It languished for a few years as I continued to amass
parts and vehicles but, in 2005, Carl Knorr assisted me in
getting it going again. This led to a complete mechanical
restoration which was completed in 2007. XXXXXXXXX
Post mechanical restoration on show at ECAIP
I enjoyed its use for a couple of years until its con-rod
bearings disintegrated at just 1200 miles- ruining the
engine. The hobbyist who did the babbit for me obviously did a bad job! I changed the engine over to a
good used one that I had obtained from another pickup
that I had since purchased. That pickup was in overall
superior condition to mine in body and frame but was
partially disassembled. Its one major flaw was a nonstandard passenger footwell that had been welded in
sometime in its life.
Standard Vanguard pickup in June 2008
Around 2008, I bought a 1950 Vanguard Series I pickup.
The Vanguard was an intriguing vehicle - car-like at the
front but with a sizeable box behind. It offered the speed
and comfort of a sedan with real utility. Sadly, it was badly rusted in the floor area and previous owner’s efforts to
repair it had only succeeded in removing any reference
points for proper repair. My friends and I certainly tried
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At the 2011 Zoomer Show
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In the spring of 2012, I decided to do the long-dreamed of
full restoration of a Thames. I chose the green pickup as
I believed (perhaps erroneously) that the steel box would
be easier to cope with than the wood framing of the Estate Car. Encouraged by Gerry Parkinson and Carl
Knorr, I moved forward. They had both worked tirelessly
for untold hours on the complete reconstruction of the box
and the repair of metal and wood in the cab. Carl welded
in a donor firewall to replace the homemade footwell in
the “new” cab taken from the other pickup which we had
judged to be better than the “old” green one. The engine
was treated to a complete and uncompromising rebuild by
Laurie at Coquitlam Automotive. The previously-rebuilt
chassis parts (axles, braking system, cables, bearings,
etc.) were transferred to a straighter frame. All new parts
from the UK were sourced as well as many items shared
with domestic Fords of the 1930’s that I could find locally
or in the US. Many items were blasted and powdercoated. This took nearly a year!
Box back on, bonnet and front wings yet to go on
Next year, 2016, will mark fifty years of my association
with the Ford Thames E83W (aka Fordson E83W). That
association has brought me countless hours of interest,
expanded my historical knowledge in many areas,
brought me together with great friends, given me an outlet
for my other passion - writing (I’ve done many articles on
these vehicles, amongst other things), caused me to learn
new skills, and see new places. I look forward to enjoying
driving a Thames again, soon, and finally realizing that
childhood dream!
Putting it all back together
After basic repair and reconstruction was accomplished,
the Thames returned to my shop for a few months for
more work on the body parts. In spring 2013 the box was
put in the hands of a commercial shop (Ropate) on Mitchell Island. Meanwhile, the small parts and fenders, etc.
were refurbished and painted by my friend, Andy Twarog,
who worked in his home shop in his spare time. It all began to come together in spring 2014 when the rest of the
truck finally went to Ropate and was given a complete
body job and paint and the box and cab were re-united.
In the fall of 2014, the Thames was finally ready to return
home and was flat-decked back to Tsawwassen for final
reassembly. This has been ongoing, a few days a week,
ever since. Now ready for a test drive, the Thames grows
more complete each month and should be finished sometime next year. It is a joy to work with clean, new or refurbished parts and I take my time with careful and thoughtful work, often assisted by my wife, Calla, who is a great
helper and whose organizational skills and common
sense keep me on track.
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The Ford’s almost done. Thanks for reading!
A big “Thank You” to Les for taking the time to tell us
about his British (and European) cars.
And there you have this issue’s story. The “Cars of
Branch Members and Their Stories” continues in future
issues of the Roundabout. As of this writing, volunteers
include Allan Reich, Dave Warlimont and Doug Courtemanche. In the meantime, and as per usual in this
space, if you would like to tell Branch members about
your British car, cars or motorbike/s, contact me at wdrauto@telus.net.
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Update on the Ian Strange
AC 2 Litre Restoration.
makers were very helpful, but I gave up. As far as I know,
the AC's panelling is an aluminium-copper alloy as used
for aircraft.
By Walter Reynolds
Oddly enough, some 30 year old repairs I had done with
Araldite (epoxy) adhesive, had held quite well, despite
minimal surface preparation back then. So I ordered some
Araldite metal epoxy, plus some fibre-glass reinforcement
mesh. I'll write up more details later this year
The April-May, 2013 Roundabout included an article that
I had written on the AC 2 Litre saloon, a majestic and
spirited car from the late 1940s and early 1950s. In that
article I referenced the web site of Ian Strange, an English
chap who was doing a second restoration on the 1949 AC 2
Litre that’s been in his family since 1962. A lot of the material in the article was from Ian’s web site; used with his
approval. I had a follow-up on Ian’s car restoration in the
July-August 2014 Roundabout. Here we are, a year later
with the latest update from Ian.
Now I'm preparing the main body shell for refitting to the
wood frame. Undoubtedly the most worrying stage of the
whole restoration!
“22nd July 2015: Alloy Panels
I've been busy this summer working on the alloy panels,
and have now got the smaller panels back on the wood
frame.
3rd September 2015: AC re-shelled.
On the 17th August, the body shell was lifted out of the
garage and onto the wood frame, 24 years after being removed. After a bit of persuasion, it all still fits, and far
fewer panel creases than I had feared. I had altered one of
the screen pillars on the wood frame for a better door fit,
and this meant also changing the fold-line on the paneling.
Repairing damaged panels did not go smoothly. I tried out
the HTS2000 brazing alloy, and while it worked very easily on the pure aluminium sheets I practiced on, my attempts to repair the AC's panels resulted in more damage
to repair. To be fair, the UK wholesaler and the American
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After over 2 weeks of intensive work, all the panel-pins
are in and the edges all folded back over the wood frame.
The doors, wings and windows still fit!
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The information in this Roundabout update article is from
Restoration Page 10 of Ian’s web site. However there are
three or four earlier web pages that I’ve not included here
just to give you an incentive to visit his web site and read
all about the AC 2 Litre in general and his restoration in
particular.
Here’s the car in 1986:
The only slight downside of the lifting operation is that
the largest of my crack repairs (epoxy/fibre-glass) did not
survive the ordeal. This was on the thin strip below the
spare-wheel door, which is subjected to flexing during the
lift - far more than it will suffer when mounted on a sound
frame.
It feels like I have my AC back again, now that I can admire or sit inside almost a whole car. Many thanks to the
kind gents who assisted in the body-lift.
Next on the agenda: Door restoration.
Postscript: Since my AC has taken shape, it's been bombarded with even more compliments than before. Youngsters heading home from school call out their admiration,
and passers-by (male and female, young and old) have
nice things to say. And all this when the AC's paintwork
is in a shocking state! It all helps to keep me going with
such a long project. It's a wonderful contrast to the comments I used to hear and read over 20 years ago. Good
taste has made a comeback!”
Ian’s web site is www.ac2litre.com. As I am intending to
visit England in September 2016, I’ve arranged to visit
with Ian to see his car which, by then, may be on the road.
So, look out for a further update, from Ground Zero, so to
speak.
As a closing note at the end of Page 9 of his restoration
record, Ian says:
“4th January 2015: Recommended book
Father Christmas brought me a copy of an excellent book
which has a few contributions from myself, plus some
photos of my AC's wood frame. Entitled "Wooden-Bodied
Vehicles" by Colin Peck (The Crowood Press - 2013). Buying, building, restoring and maintaining most forms of
wooden or wood framed road vehicles. It includes a section for coachbuilt cars. It is a well-researched book that
picks up on the opinions and practices of various restorers
in the UK and USA. If you look carefully through the
many photos, you will notice some close-ups of my AC's
wood frame. There is also a photo of a dark red AC that I
took.
If you are contemplating the restoration of a wood framed
car, then I would thoroughly recommend purchasing a
copy of this book.”
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REAR VIEW MIRROR
Top picture: 1955 PNE Parade showing Sports Car Club of B.C. cars participating.
(City of Vancouver Archives) - Submitted by Les Foster.
Bottom picture: June 14, 1973. Traffic problems on Chilco Street in the West End
(Hemmings Motor News) - Submitted by Alan Miles
I believe there is five British cars in this picture, the most obvious being the Triumph Spitfire.
If you think you can name all five (or maybe more) let me know.
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When you take your car to a collector car show,
you never know what might happen!
Text and Photos by Sarah Wilson
I just received my official photo this morning (October
14th!) from the organizing committee of the PoCo Car
Show that was held in mid-August. Mine was the lone
Austin-Healey being shown, but among the handful of
British cars, there was a Jenson-Healey, Jenson GT
(belonging to vcb member Tom Popovich), Morris Minor (sort of due to the V8), Metropolitan, MGB, E-Type
Jag, a couple of Morgans, Sunbeam Tiger, a couple of
XJSs, TR6, Mayflower and a Spitfire.
The show cost each car owner $25, which was really a
good deal when you consider what you received. Interested people gathered at around 4pm on the Saturday
at the PoCo Recreation Centre and then proceeded on a
cruise through a looped route around Port Coquitlam
and Port Moody, being waved at by people who had positioned themselves and their chairs along the route.
When we returned to the downtown area, we parked our cars and proceeded for an included barbeque meal.
On the Sunday after getting into the staging lanes and obtained our packages that included a T-shirt, we then
were all individually photographed prior to driving to our parking position that in my case included a number of
British cars. After parking our cars, we were then treated to another included meal, this time breakfast! The day
proved to be a really enjoyable with loads of people walking around looking at our cars. The Blues Brothers(!)
moved around the streets playing for us, and at the end of the show the awards were handed out, followed by live
music into the evening if you wanted to stay.
My one criticism would be that while awards for North American cars were numerous, any cars that were British, European, or Japanese were all clumped into one "Foreign" award. Linda Spouler justifiably won for her Triumph Mayflower! I guess this car is so unusual that it has become an awards magnet.
One thing I didn't expect at all was to see a "For Sale" sign on the E-Type Coupe on the day of the show. I chatted with the Port Coquitlam owner and after some thought contacted him the next day to test drive the car. No
rust, only 30,000 documented miles on the clock and
owned by the original owner up to the end of 2005 prior
to being imported into Canada, and the important stuff
having been done since she came to Vancouver. I gather
that it was fortunate for me that I phoned when I did
since Roger had several people phone him about purchasing the Jaguar.
Little did I know when I signed up for this car show,
that I would almost have an E-Type land in my lap, a
bucket list item that proved impossible for me to say
NO to!
I would highly recommend this show to club members,
and we really need to have a greater showing of our
Britmobiles at this show!
Sarah’s soon to be “new” E-Type
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17 VCB members braved the elements for September’s Branch event at Rocky Point Park in Port
Moody. Here they can be seen enjoying Pajos fish and chips (which agreed to stay open just for them!)
under cover in the park. The short run planned for afterwards was cancelled on account of the rain but
judging from the pictures the precipitation did not dampen the spirits of those attending.
(photos: Steve Blake)
During a trip to Hawaii earlier this year, Mary
Lou and I were strolling through the shopping
area in Waikiki when we spotted this Mini Ute in
the Tori Richard store. I was unfamiliar with the
store but apparently they are a chain of clothing
stores that started in Honolulu in 1956 and specialize in high quality resort wear.
Looking on the internet I also found a picture of
a beautiful red MGA parked in this store as well.
Sounds like someone at the top has a weakness
for British automobiles.
(Photo: Alan Miles)
AT THE WHEEL
Chairperson: John McDonald
sirjohn@hotmail.com 604-942-8223
Vice-Chairperson: Walter Reynolds
wdrauto@telus.net 604-463-6305
Treasurer: Bernie Miles
pat.miles@telus.net 604-943-0535
Membership renewals: mail to 207-4753
River Road West, Delta, B.C. V4K 1 R9
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Membership Secretary: John Chapman
johnchapman@telus.net 604-590-3749
New memberships and correspondence:
7923 144A St., Surrey, B.C. V3S 8C1
Immediate Past Chairperson:
Gerry Parkinson g.parkinson@eastlink.ca
604-943-3824
Event and Meeting Coordinator:
Lorna Hoare
Lornahoare@shaw.ca - 604-584-2564
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Communications Coordinator: Alan Miles
milesfamily@telus.net—604-272-2145
Roundabout Editor : Alan Miles
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Website Editor: Alan Miles
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