Interview - Maurice Fernandez

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Interview - Maurice Fernandez
An Interview with Maurice Fernandez
Maurice Fernandez is a well-known astrologer,
teacher and writer who travels the globe
lecturing, organizing conferences and seeing
clients. Originally born in Burundi and
speaking French as his first language, he moved
to Tel Aviv, Israel when he was 13, ultimately
learning Hebrew and opening to his astrological
potential when really quite young. I had met
Maurice on several occasions at conferences and
was fascinated by the original material of his
lectures, a unique approach to evolutionary
astrology that he calls “Astrology of the
Evolution of Consciousness.” I was delighted to
be able to interview him by telephone.
KT:
So how did you get started in astrology?
MF:
Well, I was always very interested in
astrology as a child. I used to read the popular
books that were available for the mainstream. I
was living in Africa at the time, where I was
born. My mom had these books called, “Your
child is [this sign]” or that sign, and as I was
reading through the definitions of Scorpio, I
realized that this book was seeing me,
understanding me, better than my parents and
everyone else.
When I was around my nodal return, age 18 or
19, my friend suggested that we take a class in
astrology. This came out of the blue because
even though we talked about our interest in it, I
never really thought it was an option to study it,
so I was excited about doing that. This class
drew me into astrology very ferociously.
I later took another class which was more
growth oriented and provided a spiritual
perspective through astrology. These studies
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healed my own identity crises and existential
confusion. Eventually, people who found out I
was studying astrology asked for readings, and
there it was, I was now doing readings.
KT:
How old were you then?
MF:
I was about 21.
At the time, I was living in Israel and there was
a lady who asked me to teach her astrology. I
was really not prepared for that, so I gave her
references to established teachers in the area,
but her situation was unique; she was the wife
of the Air France airline company manager and
only spoke French. In Israel there was no
astrology teacher who could teach in French. I
was the only one. I couldn’t argue with that and
I took the challenge and started teaching. Then
her friend heard that she was taking classes,
and also joined. One thing led to another, and
before I knew it, I was both counseling and
teaching astrology.
KT:
So a very natural progression…
MF:
It was a very natural progression and
when I look back, I can say that it definitely
“called” me. I had a few spiritual realizations
that made it very clear that this was not just a
job; this was a calling.
KT:
I see. Did you ever study anything else?
Did you ever have any other sidelines?
MF:
Well, I was, at the time, studying sound
engineering, and I was involved in music
projects, production. I knew I would not have a
9 to 5 job. Additionally, I also had the intention
to study psychology academically.
KT:
I was wondering about that because
your approach seems very psychological and
spiritual.
MF:
Yes, so I did try to study psychology. At
the time, I was studying astrology in the United
States because I traveled to come to conferences
here and learn from my teacher at the time. It
was a natural thing to include psychology, but
every time I tried to enroll at the university,
things would come up and divert my plans. On
the other hand, everything about my astrology
studies unfolded very smoothly. As astrology
took over my life and my practice expanded, I
just realized I didn’t need to study psychology. I
absorbed the psychology through the study of
astrology. And somehow, it worked.
KT:
Yes —for sure. When did you start
writing books?
MF:
It was also quite an interesting process. I
will tell you one thing: I have natally Saturn in
Gemini and it opposes my Mercury in Scorpio,
and I was always very self-conscious about my
intellectual capacity. I never saw myself
teaching, or writing, especially because I moved
to different countries and learned different
languages, I never had mastery of any language,
and so I did not have confidence to express
myself in any language. This is why the thought
of teaching and writing was initially foreign to
me.
The way the writing process began was when I
was preparing for teaching a workshop on
Neptune. I usually don’t write or read notes
when I teach or when I present a talk. I am
usually more of a spontaneous speaker and I
know what I want to say. But for some reason, I
started to write some notes for this particular
workshop. As I started to write things down, I
was suddenly flushed with completely new
insights and perspectives. It turned into some
form of automatic writing where many ideas
came through, and I came to understand the
process of Neptune in a way that I myself had
no initial idea about. I was basically writing
things that I didn’t know.
I then presented these ideas at the workshop
and it was very inspiring. I made extensive
research to validate this information, assessing
the accuracy of the insights through countless
charts, and it worked very profoundly. I
realized that this was very valuable material for
a book. But as I was explaining, my grasp of the
language was not so good, and yet at the same
time, the content was compelling. I was writing
in English because most of my studies were in
English, and this is also where the greater
audience is — English speaking rather than
Hebrew speaking. It took me about three years
to write the content and put the manuscript
together, and I decided to move to the United
States to publish it. That’s how it started. It was
not an planned process practically, but it was a
very powerful process, an inspired process, as
far as the concept and the material.
KT:
Had you seen yourself as a channel
before that? Were you aware of psychic abilities
or any sense of this capacity to download
information?
MF:
I knew of the phenomenon and I had
great respect for teachers who were sharing
their own mystical experiences, whether it was
in astrology or other fields, but I never thought
that I would experience that; it came as a
complete surprise.
There is a bit more to this story… this whole
“download,” happened in the summer of 2000,
and a few years before that, I started practicing
Kundalini yoga, which had a very deep spiritual
effect on me. It opened channels in very
palpable ways and prepared me for these
greater realizations. I experienced at the time a
very powerful awakening that led to out of
body experiences, and that, I believe, was what
opened many channels for me astrologically.
This is why today when I teach astrology, I
encourage students to develop a spiritual
practice because it is my understanding that this
knowledge is sacred. It’s affecting us on so
many levels and we shouldn’t address it only
mentally, you know. Our body must be a proper
vessel. As we are interpreting cosmic messages,
and translating star knowledge into practical
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information for people, we need to take this
service seriously and be sure that we are
healthy conduits. We need to be emotionally
grounded, physically in tune, and mentally
open – to me the yoga practice was essential to
my understanding of Astrology—the two were
connected.
KT:
I can see that. It makes a lot of sense that
the spiritual practice had opened you up in that
way. I also
agree that
when an
astrologer
develops a
spiritual
practice it
really allows
the astrology to
deepen to its
full potential.
MF:
Yes. It
took about four
years to
complete the
book and I
published it in
2004 when I moved to the States. Now I am
actually rewriting a second edition to the book
because, as I said, originally my language skills
weren’t very polished and I had little experience
in the publishing process. I’m now re-editing
everything and adding new material that came
after the book was released. I think I’m going to
have the finished product maybe later this year
or early 2015. I can say that the original vision is
actually coming to completion now.
KT:
That will be something to look forward
to. What else have you written, and are you
working on any other books?
MF:
Astrology and the Evolution of
Consciousness, Volume 1 is a book I wrote about
the fundamentals of astrology but from an
evolutionary perspective. It contains full
chapters on the Sun and the Moon in each
house and sign, and a thorough description of
the evolutionary levels of consciousness. So it’s
a book that I really love because everyone can
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find something in it, whether people are
absolute beginners or they are more advanced
and want to deepen their understanding of the
Sun and Moon placements.
There are three other books that I contributed
chapters to, along with other astrologers. One is
called Insights into Evolutionary Astrology, where
I wrote a chapter on Relationships, then
Astrology: The New Generation, which was
compiled by
Frank
Clifford. The
chapter I
contributed is
“An
Astrological
and Spiritual
Perspective on
Mental
Health.” The
other book is
called
Transpersonal
Astrology:
Explorations at
the Frontier,
which was
compiled by Armand Diaz, Eric Meyers, and
Andrew Smith. This is a book that is more
specifically about the transpersonal approach to
astrology where I wrote a chapter on “The
Death Chart.” I realized that the death chart
was as revealing as the information of the birth
chart when it comes to describing where the
soul is at in its evolutionary process. In a way,
the death chart is a new birth chart.
I have about ten more books in my mind to
write, but it takes time for me to write as I travel
a lot to teach and sustain my practice. When I
travel it’s just too difficult for me to write, so it
takes me a lot of time.
KT:
Yes, I find it challenging to find time to
write also with all the other demands. What is
your formula? Do you have a time of day? Do
you put aside a block of time? What do you do?
MF:
There are certain hours, usually
evenings, where I do that. Every book is a little
different. For example, right now, writing the
new edition of the Neptune book takes me so
much time… so much more than I would ever
expect because every time I go through the book
and rewrite certain chapters, new information
comes in and I’m constantly rewriting. I want to
allow this flow, to be organic, because it’s very
relevant; the content is valuable. On the other
hand, the chapters that I submitted for these
other books came forward more quickly and
were much easier for me to write. I think every
book has its own rhythm and its own hours,
and I try to go with that.
KT:
Yes, I’ve noticed that in general, working
with Neptune, teaching about Neptune, or
being in a lecture about Neptune, that the
Neptunian energy tends to take over and one
does go into altered states. It’s not as easy to
stay centered and focused.
MF:
If I look back, I think this is true because
that’s what has been happening. However, my
intention with this book, both in the first edition
and the rewrite, is to actually try to be accessible
and bring these very abstract Neptunian
concepts into words that are tangible so that
people can really understand and put them to
practical use. Many people found even the first
book to be useful this way, even though the
content is spiritual or existential.
KT:
Yes… And so how did you come into
evolutionary astrology? Did you always have
some level of the evolutionary perspective or
was there a switch for you from more
traditional or psychological astrology?
MF:
This was the type of astrology that really
drew me in and provided the answers and the
growth that I was seeking for myself. That’s
what resonated. That’s what really captivated
me from the first. It had a profound effect on
me, my soul.
KT:
How do you feel about the fact that some
astrologers seem to be against evolutionary
astrology?
arguments against it. Some people are just not
appreciating any form of modern astrology
because, following the whole return to the
traditional foundation and the ancestral
heritage of astrology, there is a tendency to see
modern expressions of astrology as lacking
foundation, too fanciful and “new agey,” and
without enough discipline. Other critics argue
against analyzing reincarnation in astrology. A
strong argument against it is that you can’t
prove reincarnation, so it should not be used.
KT:
I’m referring more to the argument
about reincarnation. You pretty much work
with the theme of reincarnation in all of your
teaching and in all of your readings, correct?
MF:
Yes, correct. Even though the most
important thing is to understand that while I
consider reincarnation and I do incorporate that
in my analysis, the purpose is to better
understand ourselves in the present and to lead
better lives now. When I address reincarnation,
it is because I believe that if we speak of
foundation, our lives and our evolution didn’t
start when we were babies. There are many
clues to all kinds of occurrences, symptoms, and
behavioral patterns that are established in us
that cannot necessarily be traced back to
childhood.
I will tell you honestly, the idea of reincarnation
always made sense to me. I see the astrology
chart reflecting where we left off, I don’t think
we were born on a random moment and
“happened to be” Libras or Scorpios… there is
an evolutionary reason why we were born at a
particular time, with a particular chart—this
chart captures where our soul is at and what the
evolutionary intentions are for this life. If we
understand the idea of the evolution of the soul,
it must come with the concept of reincarnation.
However, while reincarnation may make sense,
it doesn’t necessarily mean that it can be used
astrologically.
In other words, some people may not dispute
the idea of reincarnation, but they may argue
the fact that astrology can be used for that.
MF:
Well, first of all, you have to tell me who
you are referring to because there are different
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To me, it always seemed
obvious that the chart
reflects where the soul left
off and its next course of
development. In a way, the
chart embodies the past,
the present, and the future.
But it is another challenge
to prove it.
As I pursued my practice
from this perspective, there
were two important stages
in my development that
confirmed this path is
valid. The first one was that
I could, for example, speak
to someone about
experiences of persecution
or violation, and yet, they
would share that their
earlier life experience was
not necessarily traumatic,
that they did not
experience abuse and
nobody persecuted them,
per se—notwithstanding,
they had all the behavioral symptoms of
someone who did go through these trauma, and
basically suffered from obvious post traumatic
stress. So while they did not go through the
experience in their current life, they behaved as
if they did.
KT:
Yes, I’ve seen that too.
MF:
This was my first understanding that
there is more to our life experience than our
early formative years in this life.
I can also share my own experience from this
perspective; past life imprinting is not
necessarily about trauma, but also about gifts
that we have. I described earlier how astrology
came so powerfully and organically to me. I will
tell you honestly, learning astrology was more
about remembering it. It was so natural. I just
had to read the thing once and it was already in
me. I didn’t need to practice extensively, and I
matured very quickly, and as I said, at age 21 I
was already doing readings and teaching, which
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didn’t make any sense if I looked at it from my
current ego’s perspective—it is clear to me that
my involvement with astrology goes beyond
this current life experience. People were coming
for readings and were very moved by what I
was saying because I was understanding the
symbols in ways that, to me, went beyond my
personal short life experience. I was tapping
into an older memory of my understanding of
astrology. This can also apply to people who
have compelling capacities in music or in other
fields.
Reincarnation is an important factor to consider
because if we want to get to the root cause of
certain issues, we will be limited if we relied on
psychological assessment only and did not
consider the spiritual aspect of the soul
evolutionary process.
The next stepping stone in my work with
reincarnation was the unique and rare
opportunity to work with the charts of
reincarnated souls, where we had the chart of
the person in their past life, and the chart of the
person in their current life, and could actually
see how these charts were describing the
progression from one life to another with
incredible precision. The people involved in this
research did not know astrology, so they could
not make any of this up. Looking at the chart
was so revealing and it provided tangible
confirmation that not only reincarnation was
happening, but that astrology was a valid tool to
analyze this process. In fact, I’m going to talk
about this in my presentation at the upcoming
ISAR conference in Phoenix.
KT:
Ah, that will be great … really
interesting.
KT:
What is the difference between your
emerging view of evolutionary astrology and
that of the Jeff Green school?
MF:
Jeffrey Green was my main teacher and
offered an amazing body of knowledge to our
times. Through the teachings, he helped me
basically remember who I truly am. However,
the moment I started to organically develop my
own perspective, and particularly when I
published my book on Neptune, I lost his
respect and was pushed aside because he
apparently did not resonate with this new
development. Today, the Evolutionary
Astrology community is very fragmented
because of this type of approach.
In itself, Evolutionary Astrology (EA) is a
universal paradigm, and it doesn’t belong to
any person, though some people were
obviously important channels of dissemination,
whether this was Jeffrey Green, Steven Forrest,
myself, and others who are also developing it in
different ways. (ed. note: Ray Merriman first
wrote of his concept of Evolutionary Astrology in
his book in the 70s; the term can have various
meanings)
I can say that the ideas are the same through all
the different streams, but the techniques and
applications are a bit different. In a few words,
the foundation principle of EA is the premise
that the chart reflects the evolutionary journey
and the intentions of the soul, that we can trace
its process from past lives into current
circumstances through the chart symbolism,
and that a person has the free-will to evolve
through the dynamics of the chart—in other
words, the chart is neutral, neither good or bad,
but how we use the energies of the chart will
determine positive or negative consequences.
From this perspective, it is not only important to
identify traits and challenges in the chart, but to
trace the reasons “why” things have manifested
a particular way. So if we see in a chart, for
example, that someone’s mother was too
controlling or that a person has a potential to be
a good lawyer, we want to identify why these
circumstances and potentials are in place, what
is the purpose for that from an evolutionary
point of view. Getting to the “why” empowers
us to elevate our consciousness and make the
necessary changes to align our ego with our
soul’s intention. As far as the application and
techniques go—very simplistically put—Jeffrey
Green’s perspective considers Pluto and the
Nodes as the essential markers in the chart,
while I see the whole chart representing the
soul, and all the transpersonal planets as forces
of evolution: Uranus through the higher mind,
Pluto through the emotional body, and Neptune
through the spirit. I put a lot of emphasis on the
Neptune paradigm because I see it representing
the most fundamental force of life, breathing in
and out, and the root reason for every “yes” or
“no” in our lives. If we look at the 12th house –
which I see as the natural house associated with
Neptune, in its placement in the zodiac, it
represents the cosmic womb, before we are
birthed into the first house, and it is the last
house of wheel where we complete a cycle.
The evolutionary paradigm is truly powerful
and compelling, but I hope that as a community,
we will also evolve, and not just speak about it.
KT:
Thank you for bringing clarity. I too wish
we will evolve into acceptance of the various
astrological schools, including the variations
within EA.
And so, tell us a little bit about the flavor of the
training program that you have developed for
astrologers.
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MF:
Yes, this is, I would say, one of the most
important aspects of my work. I think that today
more than ever, the world needs astrology, and
astrology needs astrologers. We need to invest
in astrology and empower it. The task to train
people who will practice responsibly and reveal
the great gift of perspective that astrology can
provide to the public is something I take very
seriously. It is an important calling for me.
Santa Fe, or Colorado. We stay together on the
same property, so there is also a community
dynamic where we cook together, share meals
and personal stories. We study in class from
about 9:30 in the morning to 3:30 in the
afternoon. After that we have outings, meditate,
or we just connect with nature, depending on
what seems appropriate. This is the format for
the “on location” segments of the course.
My approach to teaching is holistic. I want to
inspire students not only to assimilate material
mentally, but also to understand that becoming
an astrologer is a spiritual and sacred practice. I
do see ourselves as modern priests, and I think
that practicing astrology is not only a service,
but also a lifestyle. I don’t personally impose
anything on students, but the Complete Course
that I teach incorporates, for example, studying
in nature and looking at the stars—being out
and having a direct experience connecting the
earth and the sky. This is combined with
academic content and pertinent knowledge.
The other part of the course consists of material
that students receive through DVDs and study
from home, after which, they submit
assignments that I review to assess where they
are in understanding the material, ensuring
everything is integrated. So there is a more
experiential part of the course and a
correspondence part where people just study in
the comfort of their own home and schedule.
KT:
That sounds rich and deep.
KT:
Do you teach Kundalini yoga to your
astrology students as part of the training?
MF:
In this line of thought, I also organize
spiritual journeys to different places in the
world — sacred spots where we study
astrology, immerse ourselves in nature, and
spend adventures together – I see these
journeys as pilgrimages and spiritual initiations.
For example, we went a few times to Africa, to
Israel, and to Arctic Norway. I put great
emphasis on a connection with nature and with
animal consciousness as I think this reflects the
path of being heart-centered; to approach life
from more of an animistic point of view where
we consider nature and animals as fully
conscious. I often time our journeys with
astrological alignments and we conduct
ceremonies where we incorporate the energies
of particular transits, especially when there are
important alignments.
MF:
Well, I will tell you a little bit of the
routine. We wake up at 4:30 in the morning and
we practice yoga. It is optional to the students,
this is not a condition to graduate, but most of
them choose to do it. We greet the sunrise
through devotional yoga practice for an hour
and a half in a natural setting. I usually choose
locations that are conducive to this kind of
work, whether it’s places like Sedona, Hawaii,
For example, recently, I organized a spiritual
retreat in Hawaii during the week of the
Cardinal Cross. The first part of it was about
understanding the energies, what this cross was
about, and how it affects us personally and
collectively. Following that, we connected
shamanically to the elements of the Cardinal
Cross: We went to the lava fields where the
energy of destruction and rebirth is so strong, to
I see it important that astrologers are heartcentered; astrology is the integration of earth
and sky, and where do you connect earth and
sky? It is in the heart, that’s where the
integration is.
KT:
Yes, definitely.
MF:
So compassion is, to me, part of the
astrology training. I’m not teaching people
compassion, but I am inspiring them to
approach life in such a way. To care for and love
all living beings.
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embody the Plutonian elements. We had
meditations and deep release work in caves
(effectively called the “Vagina cave”). Then, we
invoked and communicated with ancestors
during the Jupiter in Cancer phase, and worked
on our family tree, our biological ancestry and
our spiritual ancestry. For the Uranian part, we
climbed the mountains: we went to the top of
the highest peak, where we set intentions for
our future and sent blessings for the planet. So,
that’s an example of the more Shamanic and
holistic approach to the journeys—I try to bring
it to a direct experience.
KT:
And I take it your work with the white
lions is part of this journeying?
MF:
Yes. It’s very interesting. I told you that I
started to involve myself seriously in astrology
when I had my nodal return at age 18, and I
came across the white lions with my second
nodal return, around age 36. Interestingly, my
nodes are in Leo and Aquarius, and so the lion
(Leo) and the human mind (Aquarius)
manifested, very graphically during these nodal
times.
The work with the white lion is part of this
holistic approach, and again, this is something
that I discovered quite unexpectedly. I was
always interested in animal consciousness, but
when I first met the white lions on a trip to
South Africa, I had no idea what was about to
unfold. It was another one of those spiritual
awakenings where there was some form of
transmission—this mythical animal, straight out
of a fairy tale, gazes into my eyes, and I find
myself flushed with divine love—it was quite
extraordinary. After the fact, I read the story of
Linda Tucker, who is the person involved in
their conservation. She was speaking of spiritual
meaning of the return of the white lions, and
the fact that they’re returning now after not
being on the planet for centuries. The first
photograph of the white lion was in 1975. There
is something very fascinating, spiritually
speaking, about them. African elders have
mentioned white lions in their oral legends for
centuries, but nobody actually knew that they
were physically possible.
But the important part of it, if we speak of the
astrological association, is that the African
Shaman who spoke of the white lions talked
about the fact that these were star beings and
that they incarnated from particular planetary
systems. It sounds interesting, but of course it’s
a legend. However, since I had the opportunity
to work very closely with Linda Tucker, and had
birth dates of the lions. To my amazement, the
three generations of lions, had their nodes all
aligned with those constellations, pretty much
to the exact degree, There is no doubt in my
mind that they possess a higher consciousness
and that their manifestation has greater
meaning. You see it in the chart, and you feel it
in their presence.
KT:
That’s amazing.
MF:
Yes, it makes you wonder when you see
that. It tells you how much we don’t know. It’s
so revealing.
KT:
I also want to ask about your River of
Stars conference in Hawaii. I imagine that this
conference also carries the spiritual and
compassionate theme that you bring to your
work since you organize it. Is there anything
else you would say might be different about a
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The second River of Stars conference is
going to be in March 2015 on the Big
Island.
KT:
Wonderful! I heard great things
about the first one, for sure. And OPA —
you’re now the president of OPA. I had
noticed you taking a fairly strong role in
OPA even before you became president.
Do you imagine there will be any more
changes?
River of Stars conference compared to other
astrological conferences?
MF:
It is as you say—I did not decide to
organize an astrology conference because there
aren’t enough events as it is, but because I
wanted to bring something a bit different to the
experience of learning astrology. This
conference is about connecting the earth with
the sky in every way—we will combine the
study of sacred sciences and honor the
sacredness of the island, and the Hawaiian
spirit of aloha—the location of the conference is
close to where the lava flows into the ocean to
create the newest earth on the planet—the
energy is extraordinary!
The River of Stars brings a set of excellent
speakers. The program includes conference
style presentations, yoga practice, music of the
spheres, and artistic experience of astrology—
we activate the right and left hemispheres of the
brain. You know it is obviously more expensive
to fly to Hawaii for a conference, but looking
back at the first conference (back in 2011), it was
an incredibly powerful learning experience.
I really enjoy many conferences and often get
myself involved in their organization, but I feel
that we miss something when we spend three
or four days inside a hotel, and don’t see the
sun.
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MF:
Thank you. OPA is another one of
these unexpected developments in my
life. I was always shying away from
organizations because my comfort zone
is doing things on my own, so joining an
organization and having to deal with the
politics was not on my priority list. However,
the great thing about OPA was its smaller size
and very unique programs; it just needed an
infusion of creative juice. To my appreciation,
the board was very open-minded and very
receptive to new ideas, so I felt very drawn to
invest myself—in everything I do, I tend to have
a dedicated approach.
What compels me about OPA is that it offers
unique programs and brings astrologers
together through what we call “peer group
work,” where professional astrologers can
actually sit together, learn about each other’s
practice, and read each other’s chart. I think
that’s missing in the field of astrology and I’m
very enthusiastic about bringing this concept
forward even more and establishing this
platform where astrologers from different
streams meet each other, and interact beyond
competition—We all are well-meaning people
and we obviously are very passionate about our
own body of knowledge. So we should listen to
each other and honor our differences, instead of
projecting our prejudices on one another. These
programs are designed for that.
The other thing I want to develop with OPA is a
program that would help aspiring astrologers
launch their practice—this is still in preliminary
developmental stages, but very exciting. We
would help new astrologers by providing them
with tools, resources, ideas, and training on
how to actually set their practice up and
provides them with options to create a
successful career. So, as you can see, there’s a lot
of creative juice…
KT:
…which you have! I mean, I’m looking at
your chart’s packed fifth house. It seems like the
music world lost you, but astrology got all that
creative energy in the form of your writing and
your teaching and working with these
organizations.
MF:
Thank you. -
KT:
And thank you so much for doing this
interview with me.
MF:
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Kay Taylor is a heart-centered
astrologer integrating
clairvoyance,
psychosynthesis, yoga and
healing arts. For over 30 years
she has offered private
sessions, retreats and
workshops, and now is also
an ISAR Consulting Skills Trainer, professional
lecturer and writer for Astrology.com. San
Francisco Bay Area (510) 601-6507. Email:
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Painting Your Horoscope Kaypacha
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ISAR International Astrologer, Vol 43 no 2, August 2014- 35

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